Alabama vs. Vandy-Who Ya Got?

[san1981]

It's in Nashville. This is a toss-up. I don't think Bama will be looking ahead to us. I got Bama 24-21

[arkjay19]

Bama.  Vandy is a little better and the Tide still has a much better defense.

[AirForceHog]

I think I'll go with Vandy in this one. Saban has some growing pains in this first SEC showdown for him.

[clifflee4mvp]

Jay Cutler will tear........wait they don't have Cutler.........nevermind. Bama 27 Vandy 17

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I'd take Vandy just because I want to see Bama get upset.  Although a pissed off Saban/Bama team would be the worst thing for us in Tuscaloosa.  Vandy had good offensive numbers last night, albeit against Richmond.  They had 281 passing and 164 rushing in a 41-17 point win.  I wonder if they were holding anything back. 

[PiggyBack]

Bama will roll.

[Hogs4Ever]

Bama is psyched and Vandy is Vandy.  Bama will win big...31-13.

[camden5r]

bama in a very close game

[BamaFreak]

This one will be in doubt until the fourth quarter.  Heck, it may even degenerate into a shootout.  Vandy returns 19 starters from last year (the same team that beat UGA.)  This will not be easy, but will give us BAMA fans a better idea of what we can realistically expect from this team.  This past Saturday told us nothing about our team.  Therefore I have to temper my expectations until I see real proof of tangible improvement.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Bama.  Vandy is a little better and the Tide still has a much better defense.

WHAT?  Vandy better despite losing their entire offense (Cutler)? 

They lost Cutler 2 years ago.  Newton is better than any qb we have trotted out in awhile.

[WBChogfan]

I think Bama wins, but there's nothing I'd like to see more than the $4 million man lose his first SEC game to Vandy.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

It's in Nashville. This is a toss-up. I don't think Bama will be looking ahead to us. I got Bama 24-21

Bama          34
Vandy         17

O/U-           51

[VolHogg]

Vandy's QB and Coach are better than ours. Vandy in a close one.

[wolf24]

4 overtimes.  Fianl Tide-34/ Vandy 31.

[Sanctified Swine]

Vandy wins this game. They have lots of experienced players, a really good QB and they expect to win. Trust me, for Vandy they have a swagger this year. ( I have some good frineds connected with the program and I hear them talk every year, but this year its a bit different. They are confident in what they have this year)

[Baseball Hog]

vandy is notorious for being very physical especially early in the season, and they do have some great athletes, one being a quaterback.  Vandy by <7.

[slopinhogs]

i think Vandy will win this one. they aren't reloading the offencive line the guys they have had a lot of playing time last year behind the starters. Vandy has a powerful offence this year. :razorback:

[Bomis Hawg]

I think Vandy can hang with Alabama for a while.  That's all they need, just hang in there and make a run late.

Chris Nickson has played well and they have two viable backs now.  And, a guy named Earl.

I think Bama wins.  24-14.

[Hogs-n-Roses]

Bama 31
Vandy 17

Bama controls the game, Vandy comes back, Bama scores late to make the score look this way.

[FootballHog]

Vandy.....Bama has no defensive line....Nickson will have over 100 rushing yards.

[VandyHog]

Vandy.  For those who haven't paid attention, Chris Nickson had better stats in his first year last year than Cutler did in his first year out.  In fact, the Commodores are deep at qb.  The backup was qb for Oklahoma's 5-A state champions two years ago and the third stringer was starter at Arizona two years ago.  Earl Bennett is an All American receiver who will break the SEC receptions record at about the mid point of this year.  We have 17 returning starters and the biggest offensive line in Johnson's tenure as coach.  Both of our running backs are healthy for the first time in two years, plus Nickson is a dual threat qb who can gain serious yardage on the ground. 

All those freshmen and sophomores Vandy has been playing the last two years are now juniors and seniors.  This is the best team I've seen at Vandy since the 82 bowl season. 

[Landonhog]

VANDY.

Nickson and Bennet will make it happen...  Bama was sloppy yesterday... 

Saban can't play on the defensive line.

If they don't win it will be waaaay to close for Bama's comfort...

(I've spent quite a bit of time trolling the Bama boards...  Lots of people mentioning their "very young" team, etc, etc...)

[Fatty McGee]

Doesn't 'Bama know they're supposed to be looking forward to having Vandy on the schedule after all those years of having the East powers on it?

At least, that's what Houston told me.

[kRazorback]

Bama. Pretty obvious in my opinion. Vandy gets no love, sorry vandy lovers.

Hogs'll roll that tide up in 2 weeks...

You can quote me on that.                         Are you writing any of this down?

[BigDPiggie]

Bama 3
Vandy 2

Saban fires half his staff then accepts a job 3 days later with the Toronto Argonauts who offer him Beckham money to do Molson ads and spots for the Canadian Tourism Industry.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Bama. Pretty obvious in my opinion. Vandy gets no love, sorry vandy lovers.

Hogs'll roll that tide up in 2 weeks...

You can quote me on that.                         Are you writing any of this down?

Right. Your enthusiasm is great, your touch with reality, a bit off.

[WarEaglePigSooie]

Vandy for obvious reasons...

[TMc]

I think Bama will win.. always is a tough game for them.. I want Bama to win.. squeak by .. I don't want to play them after a loss.

[BigDPiggie]

I would just as soon avoid them this year. I guess getting it over with early will be nice, but Saban, although a royal arse, can pretty much improve a team in mere seconds.

[bphi11ips]

Vandy.....Bama has no defensive line....Nickson will have over 100 rushing yards.

Those of you who think Bama has no defensive line are in for a rude awakening.  Bama ALWAYS has a defensive line.  You just don't know their names yet.

[WarEaglePigSooie]

They sure havn't had a defensive or offensive line against Auburn the past 5 years ^

[monticello_hog]

going to be close
vandy will give bama all they want, but bama wins 17-14

[jsimpso3]

This one will be in doubt until the fourth quarter.  Heck, it may even degenerate into a shootout.  Vandy returns 19 starters from last year (the same team that beat UGA.)  This will not be easy, but will give us BAMA fans a better idea of what we can realistically expect from this team.  This past Saturday told us nothing about our team.  Therefore I have to temper my expectations until I see real proof of tangible improvement.

wait a minute,

did i just read "realistic" from a bama fan,
what is this world coming to.

i'm just kidding bammer, welcome aboard

[wincrimson]

Not all of us lose to Vandy.  *cough*  Dale  *cough*

Vanderbilt hasn't beaten Alabama in my lifetime.  I'll be able to say that next week, too.

20 in a row, here we come!

[WarEaglePigSooie]

I believe I know you from AUNation.net ^

[skeetmaster24]

close game.... bama wins barely

[Porkem]

Bama baby!  Vandy is...was...and will always be...the SEC doormat.  They are the underdog in every game they play in the SEC.  But...they are a damn good academic school.   A Vandy degree definitely opens some doors.

[DukeOfPork]

It's in Nashville. This is a toss-up. I don't think Bama will be looking ahead to us. I got Bama 24-21

This thread is insane.

Bama will pound Vandy.  Saban will not accept anything less.

[VandyHog]

We will see, my friend.

[VandyHog]

A few stats from Saturday night, both teams playing 1-AA opponents:


Passing:

Vandy:  19 of 26 for 284 yards  (10.9 yards per pass)
Bama:   25 of 34 for 262 yards (7.7 yards per pass)

Top Receivers:

Vandy:  Earl Bennett, 13 for 223 yards and 3 touchdowns (Vandy Record) (also had 62 yards in punt returns)
Bama:  D. Hall, 4 for 52 yards and 0 touchdowns.

Rushing:

Vandy:  35 rushes for 162 yards (average rush, 4.6 yards)
Bama:   44 rushes for 313 yards (average rush, 7.1 yards)

Punting:

Vandy:  Average Punt, 41 yards (0 yards in return by Richmond)
Bama:   Average Punt, 40 yards

QB Interceptions:

Vandy:  0  (intercepted Richmond's QB 3 times)
Bama:  0 (intercepted WCU's QB 0 times)

QB Efficiency:

Vandy:  Nickson went 19 of 26 for 284 yards passing and 15 yards rushing, 4 touchdowns.
Bama:  Wilson went 17-25 for 189 yards passing and 17 yards rushing, 0 touchdowns.

[HoggySTruman]

Bama.......irregardless of what some think ....coaching matters....

[MuskogeeHogFan]

A few stats from Saturday night, both teams playing 1-AA opponents:


Passing:

Vandy:  19 of 26 for 284 yards  (10.9 yards per pass)
Bama:   25 of 34 for 262 yards (7.7 yards per pass)

Top Receivers:

Vandy:  Earl Bennett, 13 for 223 yards and 3 touchdowns (Vandy Record) (also had 62 yards in punt returns)
Bama:  D. Hall, 4 for 52 yards and 0 touchdowns.

Rushing:

Vandy:  35 rushes for 162 yards (average rush, 4.6 yards)
Bama:   44 rushes for 313 yards (average rush, 7.1 yards)

Punting:

Vandy:  Average Punt, 41 yards (0 yards in return by Richmond)
Bama:   Average Punt, 40 yards

QB Interceptions:

Vandy:  0  (intercepted Richmond's QB 3 times)
Bama:  0 (intercepted WCU's QB 0 times)

QB Efficiency:

Vandy:  Nickson went 19 of 26 for 284 yards passing and 15 yards rushing, 4 touchdowns.
Bama:  Wilson went 17-25 for 189 yards passing and 17 yards rushing, 0 touchdowns.

You forgot to mention that there were 12 different receivers that helped account for those 262 yards in receiving at Alabama. That is doing a great job of spreading the ball around. Their passing attack is obviously not anemic.

On the other hand, at Vanderbilt there were only 4 other receivers(aside from Bennett) who accounted for only 61 yards of the total 284 yards. That makes it a lot easier to shut a passing attack down if you can focus on basically one receiver.

At Bama, 5 players accounted for the 313 yards in rushing. At Vandy, 6 players accounted for the 162 yards in rushing.

I think we better give Alabama it's due. They spread the ball around in passing which makes them less predictable(which receiver do you focus on?) and they have depth in the backfield that can produce big rushing numbers.

In fairness, at Arkansas, we had 350 yards rushing that was accounted for by 6 different runners, but 280 of those 350 were accounted for by 2 of our backs(and you know who they are).

In passing, we spread the ball around to 7 different receivers to account for our 157 yards in passing.

In comparing the three teams, you can look at Alabama and see that they are not one dimensional while the same cannot be said for Vandy or Arkansas. If I had to choose, I think I would pick the balanced attack........how about you?

[HoggySTruman]

A few stats from Saturday night, both teams playing 1-AA opponents:


Passing:

Vandy:  19 of 26 for 284 yards  (10.9 yards per pass)
Bama:   25 of 34 for 262 yards (7.7 yards per pass)

Top Receivers:

Vandy:  Earl Bennett, 13 for 223 yards and 3 touchdowns (Vandy Record) (also had 62 yards in punt returns)
Bama:  D. Hall, 4 for 52 yards and 0 touchdowns.

Rushing:

Vandy:  35 rushes for 162 yards (average rush, 4.6 yards)
Bama:   44 rushes for 313 yards (average rush, 7.1 yards)

Punting:

Vandy:  Average Punt, 41 yards (0 yards in return by Richmond)
Bama:   Average Punt, 40 yards

QB Interceptions:

Vandy:  0  (intercepted Richmond's QB 3 times)
Bama:  0 (intercepted WCU's QB 0 times)

QB Efficiency:

Vandy:  Nickson went 19 of 26 for 284 yards passing and 15 yards rushing, 4 touchdowns.
Bama:  Wilson went 17-25 for 189 yards passing and 17 yards rushing, 0 touchdowns.

You forgot to mention that there were 12 different receivers that helped account for those 262 yards in receiving at Alabama. That is doing a great job of spreading the ball around. Their passing attack is obviously not anemic.

On the other hand, at Vanderbilt there were only 4 other receivers(aside from Bennett) who accounted for only 61 yards of the total 284 yards. That makes it a lot easier to shut a passing attack down if you can focus on basically one receiver.

At Bama, 5 players accounted for the 313 yards in rushing. At Vandy, 6 players accounted for the 162 yards in rushing.

I think we better give Alabama it's due. They spread the ball around in passing which makes them less predictable(which receiver do you focus on?) and they have depth in the backfield that can produce big rushing numbers.

In fairness, at Arkansas, we had 350 yards rushing that was accounted for by 6 different runners, but 280 of those 350 were accounted for by 2 of our backs(and you know who they are).

In passing, we spread the ball around to 7 different receivers to account for our 157 yards in passing.

In comparing the three teams, you can look at Alabama and see that they are not one dimensional while the same cannot be said for Vandy or Arkansas. If I had to choose, I think I would pick the balanced attack........how about you?

these are great points, very well said...

[MDH]

Nick will lead Bama to a 66-6 victory.

[Bama Possum]

D.J. Hall caught 4 passes. Nick Walker, the Tight End, caught 5.

JPW did not have many passing yards or passing TD's because... ...Bama's RB's played lights out! Granted it was against WC, but most folks, me included, were expecting to see "Air Bama".

I am taking Bama in this one, and not just because I am a Bama fan. The new offense looks to be VERY potent with no holes. This may be the most powerful offense Alabama has had since the 1970's wishbone teams. This is NOT Mike Shula's offense. Even though Bama hasn't shown all their cards, they have shown enough for me to know that they are less predictable than last year, well led, have better blocking schemes and techniques, are faster and better conditioned, and are capable of a balanced attack. They put up 575 yards of offense and didn't play the starters halfway through the 3rd quarter. They set a new school record in 1st downs! Mike Shula NEVER put up 575 of offense...EVER...in 4 years even against cupcakes. The 4th quarter was spent trying to run out the clock by running the 2nd and 3rd string backs up the middle using 2nd and 3rd string QB's.

Vandy had better have more weapons than Bennett, because the defense isn't thin at corner and safety. Vandy will play hard. They always do, but unless they are on fire and Bama comes out completely flat, Bama wins by 10 at least.

[selfexplanatory]

I saw a few 3 point games on this thread...

Vegas opens the line Alabama (-3.5)

[VandyHog]

It is going to be a very interesting game.  Personally, I don't think Bama will be able to shut down Nickson and Bennett but we'll see. Bennett is going to break the SEC reception record as a junior for a reason. I'm also interested to see how Vandy does in limiting Bama's running game.  Both teams have good coaches.

[VandyHog]

D.J. Hall caught 4 passes. Nick Walker, the Tight End, caught 5.

JPW did not have many passing yards or passing TD's because... ...Bama's RB's played lights out! Granted it was against WC, but most folks, me included, were expecting to see "Air Bama".

I am taking Bama in this one, and not just because I am a Bama fan. The new offense looks to be VERY potent with no holes. This may be the most powerful offense Alabama has had since the 1970's wishbone teams. This is NOT Mike Shula's offense. Even though Bama hasn't shown all their cards, they have shown enough for me to know that they are less predictable than last year, well led, have better blocking schemes and techniques, are faster and better conditioned, and are capable of a balanced attack. They put up 575 yards of offense and didn't play the starters halfway through the 3rd quarter. They set a new school record in 1st downs! Mike Shula NEVER put up 575 of offense...EVER...in 4 years even against cupcakes. The 4th quarter was spent trying to run out the clock by running the 2nd and 3rd string backs up the middle using 2nd and 3rd string QB's.

Vandy had better have more weapons than Bennett, because the defense isn't thin at corner and safety. Vandy will play hard. They always do, but unless they are on fire and Bama comes out completely flat, Bama wins by 10 at least.

I think you will find that Vandy has more weapons than Bennett, but he is a pretty dang powerful weapon.  Nickson is a very capable dual threat quarterback who barely ran at all on Saturday night. Like Alabama, they took it a little easy on Richmond during the late stages of the game.  You are going to find that Vandy has a big offensive line and an experienced defense.  This will be a very close game. I believe Vandy will win, but like I said, we will see.

[hogman64]

AT -4 Alabama is the bet of the week.....I know Vandy has a history of making these games close but Saban will not let that happen, Alabama will win by double digits......John Parker Wilson is better than people realize at this point...... As for week after next, It could get ugly if our secondary doesnt improve alot in two weeks.

[AFWarrior83]

This game is a tricky one, I want to go with Vandy b/c experience, but I just think BAMA will sqeak it out somehow like we did last year.