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ErieHog

Quote from: MM-gohogs on September 02, 2007, 04:59:12 pm
Quote from: ErieHog on September 01, 2007, 09:24:31 pm
Yes.    It'll come down to not turning the ball over, though.    If we turn the ball over, it can be a long day.

sheer brilliance, if we turn the ball over we will lose. let me guess this is your next one,

"if we score we may win, if they don't score we can't lose"

right? we have been exposed week one so has michigan notre dame and others. but the fact that we had a tough go of it against the sun belt is not a good thing. a win is a win and hog fans are DILLUSIONAL for thinking we ever have a shot at doing anything worthwile and i don't know being a national powerhouse in football like USC oklahoma ohio state and others. but i would be nice wouldn't it. let's settle for another 6-6. i hope i'm wrong but we'll see.

Last year against Alabama, the Hogs turned the ball over  3 times, but still won-- so stop being a Frank about an observation that is most likely true, but not a given.

This is still an 8 win team, at minimum.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

mcclintock126

We COULD  beat Bama.......if ole nuttsack doesn't mess it up........if he hasn't already messed it up.

We've got some players with a lot of heart who might overcome a lack of coaching.

 

badbrad

Quote from: mcclintock126 on September 02, 2007, 05:15:42 pm
We COULD  beat Bama.......if ole nuttsack doesn't mess it up........if he hasn't already messed it up.

We've got some players with a lot of heart who might overcome a lack of coaching.
couldn't agree more! if we win it definately won't be because of the coaching!!!

PorkSoda

Quote from: badbrad on September 02, 2007, 05:20:19 pm
Quote from: mcclintock126 on September 02, 2007, 05:15:42 pm
We COULD  beat Bama.......if ole nuttsack doesn't mess it up........if he hasn't already messed it up.

We've got some players with a lot of heart who might overcome a lack of coaching.
couldn't agree more! if we win it definately won't be because of the coaching!!!

Are you kidding me? HDN has Saban's number...




and he'll be texting him all game
.


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neal64ss

We win big at Tuscaloosa this year.  Casey dosen't light it up (but he doesn't thow an interception) and we use a lot of wildhog package.  At least thats how I think it will go down.

beansandtaters

Quote from: arkfanchip on September 02, 2007, 12:55:58 pm
Quote from: toshortrock on September 01, 2007, 09:17:18 pm
no,we won't beat tenn,LSU,,Auburn,,maybe not Kentucky,who else,,south carolina,,we have no quarterback folks

I don't know about betting on here but I'd be willing to put ALOT of money on us winning at least two  of the five teams you listed.  ALOT!

Seriously, you're confident we can go 2-3 in those 5 games?!?!?! Oh my gosh WHAT A SEASON! That would be AWESOME to lose 3 games !!!!!

ErieHog

Quote from: PowderHawg on September 02, 2007, 05:22:47 pm
Quote from: badbrad on September 02, 2007, 05:20:19 pm
Quote from: mcclintock126 on September 02, 2007, 05:15:42 pm
We COULD  beat Bama.......if ole nuttsack doesn't mess it up........if he hasn't already messed it up.

We've got some players with a lot of heart who might overcome a lack of coaching.
couldn't agree more! if we win it definately won't be because of the coaching!!!

Are you kidding me? HDN has Saban's number...




and he'll be texting him all game
.




Classic.  +1
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

granny grunt

Quote from: neal64ss on September 02, 2007, 05:26:05 pm
We win big at Tuscaloosa this year.  Casey dosen't light it up (but he doesn't thow an interception) and we use a lot of wildhog package.  At least thats how I think it will go down.
I wish you were the coach of the Hogs,  then I might have a little faith in a victory over the Tide.  But you ain't ....Nutt is and I don't believe.      I've got nine years of Nutty reruns that temper my belief!!!

Razorback Jedi


claytongray

Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.
Go Hogs Go!


hawaiianhogster

Anything is possible on game day. With two weeks to prepare we should have a good chance. I would bet for Alabama if I put money on it.

 

claytongray

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

ishankem


MuskogeeHogFan

September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm #165 Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 08:04:32 pm by MuskogeeHogFan
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.
Go Hogs Go!

arkfanchip

Quote from: beansandtaters on September 02, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
Quote from: arkfanchip on September 02, 2007, 12:55:58 pm
Quote from: toshortrock on September 01, 2007, 09:17:18 pm
no,we won't beat tenn,LSU,,Auburn,,maybe not Kentucky,who else,,south carolina,,we have no quarterback folks

I don't know about betting on here but I'd be willing to put ALOT of money on us winning at least two  of the five teams you listed.  ALOT!

Seriously, you're confident we can go 2-3 in those 5 games?!?!?! Oh my gosh WHAT A SEASON! That would be AWESOME to lose 3 games !!!!!

I said at least two of the three.  I think we will lose at LSU but that's it. 

claytongray

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

jml

Yes, but only if Dmac puts us on his shoulders completely. If he looks anywhere close to mortal. We will lose this game.
Put a FORK in the DORK! He's done!

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 08:06:25 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

How many of the incompletions were tipped or broken up passes?
Go Hogs Go!

ErieHog

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Good number to pick out there.    You know Hougaboook's numbers from last year?

Completions: 241
Attempts: 393
Yards: 2401
TD/INT:21/17

That works out to....a 61.3% pass completion percentage.   Odd, that.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:15:54 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 08:06:25 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

How many of the incompletions were tipped or broken up passes?

Crickets....crickets..........
Go Hogs Go!

claytongray

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:41:18 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:15:54 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 08:06:25 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

How many of the incompletions were tipped or broken up passes?

Crickets....crickets..........

Oh, I didn't think you wanted a reply...thought you were giving up here. My bad.

Anyway, a defense doesn't have to physically touch a pass to cause an incompletion. Are you aware that a QB will sometimes throw a ball away because no one is open? Are you aware that tight coverage will sometimes cause a QB to throw an uncatchable balls? Are you aware that jamming a WR will sometimes cause the WR to not be at the spot where the QB expects him to be? Etc.

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 09:15:46 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:41:18 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:15:54 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 08:06:25 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

How many of the incompletions were tipped or broken up passes?

Crickets....crickets..........

Oh, I didn't think you wanted a reply...thought you were giving up here. My bad.

Anyway, a defense doesn't have to physically touch a pass to cause an incompletion. Are you aware that a QB will sometimes throw a ball away because no one is open? Are you aware that tight coverage will sometimes cause a QB to throw an uncatchable balls? Are you aware that jamming a WR will sometimes cause the WR to not be at the spot where the QB expects him to be? Etc.

Giving up? Your premise is laughable. Look dude, don't try to talk down to me as if you know football and I don't. Without going into details, I suspect that I have a lot more experience with it than you have. Even if coverage was exceptional(which it wasn't) a QB(most of the time) could have done much better than this guy did. He just had one of those nights when he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. Reason? Who knows? Just like pitchers in baseball, sometimes they are on, sometimes they aren't. I suspect this was one of those nights for him, for whatever reason. You believe what you want to believe and keep thinking that our secondary is good and they will be revealed for what they really are in about 2 weeks. The only reprieve they may have is if Wilson also has an "off night". That is doubtful that they could be so lucky 2 games in a row, but it could happen. And while you are trying to be a smart _ _ _ about it, you never did answer my question. Do you know? If so, answer up.
Go Hogs Go!

 

DEVIL DOG HOG

"I love college football. It's the time of the year you can walk down the street with a girl on one arm and a blanket on the other, and nobody thinks twice about it." DUFFY DAUGHERTY




GO GREEN!

1HourToHogville

Hogs will defeat Alabama.  Then I hope some of the negative attitudes improve on this board.  I've never seen so many defeatist attitudes gathered together.  Worrying about who the head coach is at this time of the year is a big waste.  No changes will be made til after the season no matter how good or bad this season goes.
Be proud of the victory (Michigan would be) and root for the Hogs to win them all.

claytongray

September 02, 2007, 10:34:49 pm #176 Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 10:55:06 pm by claytongray
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 09:48:26 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 09:15:46 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:41:18 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:15:54 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 08:06:25 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 08:00:59 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on September 02, 2007, 07:15:32 pm
Quote from: claytongray on September 02, 2007, 07:00:18 pm
Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

How many of the incompletions were tipped or broken up passes?

Crickets....crickets..........

Oh, I didn't think you wanted a reply...thought you were giving up here. My bad.

Anyway, a defense doesn't have to physically touch a pass to cause an incompletion. Are you aware that a QB will sometimes throw a ball away because no one is open? Are you aware that tight coverage will sometimes cause a QB to throw an uncatchable balls? Are you aware that jamming a WR will sometimes cause the WR to not be at the spot where the QB expects him to be? Etc.

Giving up? Your premise is laughable. Look dude, don't try to talk down to me as if you know football and I don't. Without going into details, I suspect that I have a lot more experience with it than you have. Even if coverage was exceptional(which it wasn't) a QB(most of the time) could have done much better than this guy did. He just had one of those nights when he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. Reason? Who knows? Just like pitchers in baseball, sometimes they are on, sometimes they aren't. I suspect this was one of those nights for him, for whatever reason. You believe what you want to believe and keep thinking that our secondary is good and they will be revealed for what they really are in about 2 weeks. The only reprieve they may have is if Wilson also has an "off night". That is doubtful that they could be so lucky 2 games in a row, but it could happen. And while you are trying to be a smart _ _ _ about it, you never did answer my question. Do you know? If so, answer up.

11 plus an INT.

hogsnot06

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Quote from: hogsnot06 on September 02, 2007, 11:05:39 pm
Our thrashing of 'Bama, to pull even head to head, will be the beginning of the end for Nicky boy. And we think we have haters....

Nope, we will not beat Alabama...and we will still have Dale..
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MuskogeeHogFan

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Quote from: Razorback Jedi on September 02, 2007, 05:32:26 pm
Why is everyone assuming that we'll lose to Bama?

A defeatist mentality combined with the hope that a losing season will be the end of Nutt.

Or perhaps while loving the Hogs, some people just have realistic views of the world? Just because some fans have different opinions than others, does not mean that they are not great fans or that they have a "defeatist mentality". We had no passing game last year, we have no passing game this year. We lived by the run last year, and we died by the run last year as well. It appears that our plan is to keep the same plan in place. We may have the two best backs in any backfield in America and perhaps a decent O-Line, but our defense is weak and particularly so in the secondary. I think we'll see the Alabama game go right down to the final minutes, but Bama is going to win this one because they will torch our secondary  AND they can run the ball too, just like us. This game goes to Bama in the end, 27-24.

I keep seeing this. Our secondary had one poor quarter against Troy and many are acting like they were torched all game long.

Troy has nothing to do with it for me. Our secondary was weak long before the Troy game. If they improve drastically, it won't be until game 3 or 4 of the season at a minimum. They would have looked worse had Hougabook not had a pitiful 34% completion percentage. What will happen against a QB that has a 61% completion percentage? Think about it, it isn't pretty.

Ummm, does Arkansas' secondary get any credit for the 34%?

How many of the incompletions were tipped or broken up passes?

Crickets....crickets..........

Oh, I didn't think you wanted a reply...thought you were giving up here. My bad.

Anyway, a defense doesn't have to physically touch a pass to cause an incompletion. Are you aware that a QB will sometimes throw a ball away because no one is open? Are you aware that tight coverage will sometimes cause a QB to throw an uncatchable balls? Are you aware that jamming a WR will sometimes cause the WR to not be at the spot where the QB expects him to be? Etc.

Giving up? Your premise is laughable. Look dude, don't try to talk down to me as if you know football and I don't. Without going into details, I suspect that I have a lot more experience with it than you have. Even if coverage was exceptional(which it wasn't) a QB(most of the time) could have done much better than this guy did. He just had one of those nights when he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. Reason? Who knows? Just like pitchers in baseball, sometimes they are on, sometimes they aren't. I suspect this was one of those nights for him, for whatever reason. You believe what you want to believe and keep thinking that our secondary is good and they will be revealed for what they really are in about 2 weeks. The only reprieve they may have is if Wilson also has an "off night". That is doubtful that they could be so lucky 2 games in a row, but it could happen. And while you are trying to be a smart _ _ _ about it, you never did answer my question. Do you know? If so, answer up.

11 plus an INT.

That is correct, which ironically, is more than we had in any game last year. 11 break ups is a large number since the normal average for any game for any team ranges from 5-8 per game. Normally I would say that this might be cause for excitement, that perhaps our secondary is much better than we have given them credit for. But when you have a QB playing against you who is a Davey O'Brien candidate, who normally has a 61% completion percentage and he tanks in our game and has only a 34% completion percentage, I am less apt to jump on the bandwagon immediately. Granted, 11 break ups is huge. But don't kid yourself and think that we can attribute all of that to our secondary. Haugabook obviously had an off night and anyone can see that. Hats off to our secondary for recording the largest number of pass break ups in years......but we will see how that translates to future games when we play against QB's that aren't having an off night. Good reserach on your part to get that number by the way. Most people don't know where to look to find that.
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Quote from: cbad on September 01, 2007, 09:33:04 pm
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YES, we have two weeks to get ready. Nathan Dick will get two more weeks of prep. We will be allright.

Are we so desprate, that we are looking to a true Frosh we stole from Rice to beat Bama.

There are plenty of QB's in the NFL who played for teams like Rice.
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HawgWyld

September 03, 2007, 07:41:18 am #181 Last Edit: September 03, 2007, 07:45:20 am by HawgWyld
Quote from: oklahog on September 02, 2007, 10:33:05 pm
Be proud of the victory (Michigan would be) and root for the Hogs to win them all.
Be proud of a victory over Troy? Anyone who's proud of whipping a Sunbelt team is the type of person who would have rooted for Germany against Poland in 1939. The NCAA ought to put a stop to such nonsense -- it's simply inequitable for a team from a BCS conference to line up and kick the crap out of a Sunbelt school. The Hogs have four games on the schedule this year that are about as exciting as watching a Mississippian's teeth rot -- no reason to feel too terribly proud of victories over any of those scrubs.

We'll see what the Hogs are made of in a couple of weeks when the Razorbacks play an honest-to-goodness SEC opponent. The Troy game doesn't tell us anything other than Nutt and company can still whip the hell out of vastly inferior teams. Yay.

hawgbawb

We are capable of beating BAMA.  They weren't very good last year, are thin on defense, and Western Caroilina was no indication of how good they are. Vandy will be a good test.

Against the Hogs, I expect them to rack up lots of yards through the air, but Arkansas will do the same on the ground. We might shut down their running game, but they might shut down our passing game. If I had to choose one or the other as my facet to rely on, I'd take the running game.

Like last year, it will likely come down to turnovers and field goals. I like the running game's advantage over the passing game, when it comes to turnovers. I also like having Tejada.   
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You sound like a  bama fan .
Is that right
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PulledPork

Quote from: neal64ss on September 02, 2007, 05:26:05 pm
We win big at Tuscaloosa this year.  Casey dosen't light it up (but he doesn't thow an interception) and we use a lot of wildhog package.  At least thats how I think it will go down.
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MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: neal64ss on September 02, 2007, 05:26:05 pm
We win big at Tuscaloosa this year.  Casey dosen't light it up (but he doesn't thow an interception) and we use a lot of wildhog package.  At least thats how I think it will go down.

And no one is looking for us to use the Wildhog(Wildcat) package.
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