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Bama's 3-4 Defense . . . Good or bad for D-Mac?

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ErieHog

August 30, 2007, 04:42:14 pm #50 Last Edit: August 30, 2007, 04:43:45 pm by ErieHog
Quote from: alextuscaloosa on August 30, 2007, 04:05:39 pm
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 03:42:14 pm
Quote from: alextuscaloosa on August 30, 2007, 03:24:08 pm
Aren't y'all replaces 3 oline men?

Yep.  2 of the people stepping in to start have had significant snaps in SEC play though, unlike most of your front 7.

If we were discussing last year you would be right, we are only replacing one olineman. Our starting LT had 800 snaps last season...only one new face there...check your facts.

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No one mentioned your O-Line.  Your front 7 was what was mentioned, where you replace 2 starting LBs (and have to add a 4th with the scheme change),  2 starting interior defensive linemen.  [Clark, Lee, Simpson and Jones as a general FYI], as well as 2 of your top 3 DL backups [Harris and Adams].   That's 6 men from the 2-deep.

Check your football knowledge of your own danged team before you challenge my knowledge of the facts.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

wincrimson

August 30, 2007, 04:49:48 pm #51
Arkansas may rush for 250+, but they won't beat Alabama.

You guys KNOW how objective I am.  Yet, I just don't see us losing to the Hogs at home.  We win a 31-30'ish shootout.
 

ErieHog

August 30, 2007, 04:52:23 pm #52
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:49:48 pm
Arkansas may rush for 250+, but they won't beat Alabama.

You guys KNOW how objective I am.  Yet, I just don't see us losing to the Hogs at home.  We win a 31-30'ish shootout.

My biggest question in matchup situations is how your 3rd and 4th receivers will match up with Grant or the Dimeback when you guys spread the field and we bring in the nickel/dime packages.

Still, I look for Arkansas to win on the strength of a massive rushing performance.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

alextuscaloosa

August 30, 2007, 04:52:55 pm #53
I apologize for misreading your post it was my bad, i was quick to defend my team and i'm sorry. Something i think a lot of people are over looking is that Saban isn't going to put us in a situation to get run all over. He's gonna put the team into a formation and call plays to mask and take advantage of what depth we do have. Again it was my bad for miss reading your post.
"I'd like for the people to remember me as a winner, cause I aint never been nothing but a winner."

wincrimson

August 30, 2007, 04:53:46 pm #54
Our 3rd and 4th receivers are damn good.  WR is our strongest category by far.  We're so deep at WR, Keith Brown has been moved to second string.

I'm not beating my chest here, guys.  Just calling it how I see it. 

ErieHog

August 30, 2007, 04:54:54 pm #55
Quote from: alextuscaloosa on August 30, 2007, 04:52:55 pm
I apologize for misreading your post it was my bad, i was quick to defend my team and i'm sorry. Something i think a lot of people are over looking is that Saban isn't going to put us in a situation to get run all over. He's gonna put the team into a formation and call plays to mask and take advantage of what depth we do have. Again it was my bad for miss reading your post.

You can mask coverage deficiencies;  you can even mask undersized linebackers;  you can't mask being out-manned at the point of attack though;  I feel for you-- I remember the early Arkansas teams in SEC play, where we tried to play against SEC offensive lines with 270 pound tackles and 235 pound ends.  It wasn't pretty.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

razorback903

August 30, 2007, 04:55:47 pm #56
Good.  By time he gets to the 4 after busting through the 3 he will be at full speed and no one can stop him.
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ErieHog

August 30, 2007, 04:55:48 pm #57
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:53:46 pm
Our 3rd and 4th receivers are damn good.  WR is our strongest category by far.  We're so deep at WR, Keith Brown has been moved to second string.

I'm not beating my chest here, guys.  Just calling it how I see it. 

Should be a shootout, then, that comes down to turnovers;  turnovers in the air outnumber turnovers on the ground, so I still see this as an Arkansas win.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Brand X Hog Fan

August 30, 2007, 04:56:53 pm #58
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 03:42:14 pm
Quote from: alextuscaloosa on August 30, 2007, 03:24:08 pm
Aren't y'all replaces 3 oline men?

Yep.  2 of the people stepping in to start have had significant snaps in SEC play though, unlike most of your front 7.

C'mon Erie . . . quit pretending you understood that post.
"I want to give you [Arkansas] something you've never had." - Coach Bielema, December 5, 2012, the beginning of a Dynasty!

Quote from: oldbear on January 14, 2013, 07:56:49 pm
The recruiting rankings guarantee success about as well as getting Lee Corso to choose your team as the winner.

alextuscaloosa

August 30, 2007, 04:57:54 pm #59
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 04:52:23 pm
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:49:48 pm
Arkansas may rush for 250+, but they won't beat Alabama.

You guys KNOW how objective I am.  Yet, I just don't see us losing to the Hogs at home.  We win a 31-30'ish shootout.

My biggest question in matchup situations is how your 3rd and 4th receivers will match up with Grant or the Dimeback when you guys spread the field and we bring in the nickel/dime packages.

Still, I look for Arkansas to win on the strength of a massive rushing performance.

In a 3 wide set your likely to see DJ Hall Mike McCoy and Nikita Stover, or replace Mike McCoy or Nikita Stover with Keith Brown. Wilson has spent a lot of times with the WR this spring and summer . Will Oakley is a good 3rd down receiver and can make plays when need. Keith Brown has some speed but the question is can he step up and be consistent. Stover and Hall look to be our play makers at WR this year, ask me after the Vandy game and i'll have a better answer for you.
"I'd like for the people to remember me as a winner, cause I aint never been nothing but a winner."

ErieHog

August 30, 2007, 05:01:30 pm #60
Quote from: Seahawk4ever on August 30, 2007, 04:56:53 pm
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 03:42:14 pm
Quote from: alextuscaloosa on August 30, 2007, 03:24:08 pm
Aren't y'all replaces 3 oline men?

Yep.  2 of the people stepping in to start have had significant snaps in SEC play though, unlike most of your front 7.

C'mon Erie . . . quit pretending you understood that post.

I read Alabamaese.  It comes from having had an alcoholic roommate with Down Syndrome  ;)
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Brand X Hog Fan

August 30, 2007, 05:04:49 pm #61 Last Edit: August 30, 2007, 05:07:34 pm by Seahawk4ever
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 04:55:48 pm
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:53:46 pm
Our 3rd and 4th receivers are damn good.  WR is our strongest category by far.  We're so deep at WR, Keith Brown has been moved to second string.

I'm not beating my chest here, guys.  Just calling it how I see it. 

Should be a shootout, then, that comes down to turnovers;  turnovers in the air outnumber turnovers on the ground, so I still see this as an Arkansas win.

Or, gawd forbid, field goals again :-\

Although I like our chances better in that department this year ;D
"I want to give you [Arkansas] something you've never had." - Coach Bielema, December 5, 2012, the beginning of a Dynasty!

Quote from: oldbear on January 14, 2013, 07:56:49 pm
The recruiting rankings guarantee success about as well as getting Lee Corso to choose your team as the winner.

wincrimson

August 30, 2007, 05:06:10 pm #62
Quote from: Seahawk4ever on August 30, 2007, 05:04:49 pm
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 04:55:48 pm
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:53:46 pm
Our 3rd and 4th receivers are damn good.  WR is our strongest category by far.  We're so deep at WR, Keith Brown has been moved to second string.

I'm not beating my chest here, guys.  Just calling it how I see it. 

Should be a shootout, then, that comes down to turnovers;  turnovers in the air outnumber turnovers on the ground, so I still see this as an Arkansas win.

Or, gawd forbid, field goals again :-\

Tiffin's actually won the starting job this year.

Can ya believe it?
 

Brand X Hog Fan

August 30, 2007, 05:09:36 pm #63 Last Edit: August 30, 2007, 05:13:54 pm by Seahawk4ever
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 05:06:10 pm
Quote from: Seahawk4ever on August 30, 2007, 05:04:49 pm
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 04:55:48 pm
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:53:46 pm
Our 3rd and 4th receivers are damn good.  WR is our strongest category by far.  We're so deep at WR, Keith Brown has been moved to second string.

I'm not beating my chest here, guys.  Just calling it how I see it. 

Should be a shootout, then, that comes down to turnovers;  turnovers in the air outnumber turnovers on the ground, so I still see this as an Arkansas win.

Or, gawd forbid, field goals again :-\

Tiffin's actually won the starting job this year.

Can ya believe it?

That 2006 game was one of the strangest games I ever saw. The missed kicks, the swinging gate, interceptions, Mitch's pass to win it . . . I was drained after that one.

Oh, and throw in the clock management, or lack thereof . . .


Fugly!
"I want to give you [Arkansas] something you've never had." - Coach Bielema, December 5, 2012, the beginning of a Dynasty!

Quote from: oldbear on January 14, 2013, 07:56:49 pm
The recruiting rankings guarantee success about as well as getting Lee Corso to choose your team as the winner.

ErieHog

August 30, 2007, 05:15:19 pm #64
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 05:06:10 pm
Quote from: Seahawk4ever on August 30, 2007, 05:04:49 pm
Quote from: ErieHog on August 30, 2007, 04:55:48 pm
Quote from: Wincrimson on August 30, 2007, 04:53:46 pm
Our 3rd and 4th receivers are damn good.  WR is our strongest category by far.  We're so deep at WR, Keith Brown has been moved to second string.

I'm not beating my chest here, guys.  Just calling it how I see it. 

Should be a shootout, then, that comes down to turnovers;  turnovers in the air outnumber turnovers on the ground, so I still see this as an Arkansas win.

Or, gawd forbid, field goals again :-\

Tiffin's actually won the starting job this year.

Can ya believe it?

All jest aside, good for Tiffin.   That kid has shown some mental fortitude to come back from that kind of debacle with the wherewithal to reclaim a starter's role.  I wish him well the other 11 games this year.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Swino

August 30, 2007, 05:37:42 pm #65
It will be bad for Casey due to the extensive blizt package the 3-4 provides. 
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