Joe Lunardi just on ESPN

[GBoling5000]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

[SexyBeast77]

why do people insist on starting their own threads when there is one. Oh right new guy. Still smite-worthy

[hawgfan80]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

This is the same Joe Lunardi that has West Virginia, Kansas St., Stanford, Air Force, Drexel, Old Dominion, Florida St., and Missouri St. ahead of Arkansas right now.....

[Pigskin_Porker]

Hey SexyBeast77 . . . Nice sig line!  +1.

[3kgthog]

Don't all of those teams except Mo. St. have an RPI above 40? I know K-State is around 50+.

[Oliver]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

This is the same Joe Lunardi that has West Virginia, Kansas St., Stanford, Air Force, Drexel, Old Dominion, Florida St., and Missouri St. ahead of Arkansas right now.....

I sometimes wonder if the man looks at RPI and SOS at all or if he just draws teams out of a hat and says..."their locks."

[jbcarol]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

This is the same Joe Lunardi that has West Virginia, Kansas St., Stanford, Air Force, Drexel, Old Dominion, Florida St., and Missouri St. ahead of Arkansas right now.....

I sometimes wonder if the man looks at RPI and SOS at all or if he just draws teams out of a hat and says..."their locks."

Check Lunardi's last post against the real deal tomorrow at 6 PM EST/5 PM CST.

Remember the Committee is inconvenienced by those Sunday PM games.  Arkansas is in.

[whatsshakinbacon]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

This is the same Joe Lunardi that has West Virginia, Kansas St., Stanford, Air Force, Drexel, Old Dominion, Florida St., and Missouri St. ahead of Arkansas right now.....

I sometimes wonder if the man looks at RPI and SOS at all or if he just draws teams out of a hat and says..."their locks."

Check Lunardi's last post against the real deal tomorrow at 6 PM EST/5 PM CST.

Remember the Committee is inconvenienced by those Sunday PM games.  Arkansas is in.

jb...your last line is the most sensical post of the day on whether or not we get in.

Usually the SEC champion and runner up are both locks for the tournament as the selection committee does everything it can to iron things out between now and noon tomorrow.  If they say Arkansas must win to get in it usually means somebody else would have to go and result in a rearrangement of their brackets, something the committee doesn't usually like to do at the last minute.

I firmly believe our win today gets us in.  They likely have us in our spot and it won't change whether we win or lose tomorrow.  This is historically the case.

Bacon out...

[hawgfan80]

Don't all of those teams except Mo. St. have an RPI above 40? I know K-State is around 50+.

These are all according to realtimerpi.com....

W. Virginia is 56, K-State is 54, Stanford 55, Air Force 29, Drexel 43, Old Dominion 38, Florida St. 46, Missouri St 39, Texas Tech 45, Clemson 47

[jbcarol]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

This is the same Joe Lunardi that has West Virginia, Kansas St., Stanford, Air Force, Drexel, Old Dominion, Florida St., and Missouri St. ahead of Arkansas right now.....

I sometimes wonder if the man looks at RPI and SOS at all or if he just draws teams out of a hat and says..."their locks."

Check Lunardi's last post against the real deal tomorrow at 6 PM EST/5 PM CST.

Remember the Committee is inconvenienced by those Sunday PM games.  Arkansas is in.

jb...your last line is the most sensical post of the day on whether or not we get in.

Usually the SEC champion and runner up are both locks for the tournament as the selection committee does everything it can to iron things out between now and noon tomorrow.  If they say Arkansas must win to get in it usually means somebody else would have to go and result in a rearrangement of their brackets, something the committee doesn't usually like to do at the last minute.

I firmly believe our win today gets us in.  They likely have us in our spot and it won't change whether we win or lose tomorrow.  This is historically the case.

Bacon out...

Thanks Bacon!

[jbcarol]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

This is the same Joe Lunardi that has West Virginia, Kansas St., Stanford, Air Force, Drexel, Old Dominion, Florida St., and Missouri St. ahead of Arkansas right now.....

I sometimes wonder if the man looks at RPI and SOS at all or if he just draws teams out of a hat and says..."their locks."

Check Lunardi's last post against the real deal tomorrow at 6 PM EST/5 PM CST.

Remember the Committee is inconvenienced by those Sunday PM games.  Arkansas is in.

If you want to check Lunardi, save his last post as an HTML or other format late Sunday afternoon.  They will yank it, to ensure there is no confusion with the real bracket.

[The Coletrain]

Stewart Mandel from SI still says we're on the outside looking in.  He's got a pretty detailed form at the bottom of the link detailing who's in, who's out, and who's got a shot but still considered an outsider. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/bubble.watch/index.html

[polandhog]

Stewart Mandel from SI still says we're on the outside looking in.  He's got a pretty detailed form at the bottom of the link detailing who's in, who's out, and who's got a shot but still considered an outsider. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/bubble.watch/index.html

that's pre-today's game though.

[The Coletrain]

I don't know.  The Hogs record is correct and it says it was updated at 3:34 CT. 

[polandhog]

Stewart Mandel from SI still says we're on the outside looking in.  He's got a pretty detailed form at the bottom of the link detailing who's in, who's out, and who's got a shot but still considered an outsider. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/bubble.watch/index.html

that's pre-today's game though.

oops, my mistake...

amazing he has stanford in (18 wins, RPI 67!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

GOOBER!

[polandhog]

and he has VANDERBILT as a LOCK with the WRONG RECORD

PEOPLE LISTEN!!!!!

VANDY = 19 WINS, NOT 20

ARKANSAS = 21

DOES EVERY WEB GUY FAIL THE CLASS CALLED 'CHECKING FACTS 101'

[DeltaBoy]

If the Hogs don't go we have been robbed!

[CheeZ_PuFF]

How can we get beat out by 18-12 Stanford?

[Kenny Sowers]

Joe doesnt know his head from his ass

[MrsPiggy]

It's our conference record that's hurting us...none of his "locks" have a losing conf record.  It wouldn't have hurt us so much if there hadn't been some upsets (like Utah St) that reduced the number of bubble teams in

I believe we need to win tomorrow and secure the automatic bid

[polandhog]

It's our conference record that's hurting us...none of his "locks" have a losing conf record.  It wouldn't have hurt us so much if there hadn't been some upsets (like Utah St) that reduced the number of bubble teams in

I believe we need to win tomorrow and secure the automatic bid

Our SEC record is 10-9 !

[TOM "tbw1"]

Then why do the final standings say 7-9?

[GAHOG]

I believe all those teams had winning conference records during the regular season. Arkansas was 7-9 during the regular season, but if you count the SECT games it's 10-9

[jbcarol]

If the Hogs don't go we have been robbed!

Yes and it would hypthetically be because the SEC in general and Arkansas in particular had insufficient advocacy on the Committee.  In the past we've had people looking out for us whether the SEC performance showed we all deserved it or not.

[MrsPiggy]

It's our conference record that's hurting us...none of his "locks" have a losing conf record.  It wouldn't have hurt us so much if there hadn't been some upsets (like Utah St) that reduced the number of bubble teams in

I believe we need to win tomorrow and secure the automatic bid

Our SEC record is 10-9 !

Regular season...the tourny wins aren't being counted in conf record, just the overall record

[Table Rocker]

have faith in the committee people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they will make the right call win or lose, hogs will make the NCAAT

[Hollywood_HOGan]

have faith in the committee people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they will make the right call win or lose, hogs will make the NCAAT

I have ZERO faith in the committee. The ESPN guy is usually right and we're still not even on the radar according to that guy.

The NCAA committee usually screws somebody over. It may be us tomorrow that gets screwed.

[Table Rocker]

have faith in the committee people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they will make the right call win or lose, hogs will make the NCAAT

I have ZERO faith in the committee. The ESPN guy is usually right and we're still not even on the radar according to that guy.

The NCAA committee usually screws somebody over. It may be us tomorrow that gets screwed.

the committee usually sides with the big name conferences not the Old Dominions, Drexels, Air Force's of the world. regardless of what you think, ESPN does not run the selection committe

[Hollywood_HOGan]

have faith in the committee people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they will make the right call win or lose, hogs will make the NCAAT

I have ZERO faith in the committee. The ESPN guy is usually right and we're still not even on the radar according to that guy.

The NCAA committee usually screws somebody over. It may be us tomorrow that gets screwed.

the committee usually sides with the big name conferences not the Old Dominions, Drexels, Air Force's of the world. regardless of what you think, ESPN does not run the selection committe

Joe Lunardi usually does not miss very much.

I hope it doesnt happen but im afraid we might get totally jobbed tomorrow. Maybe having Slive on the committee will help.

[Table Rocker]

so he gets most of the bubble teams correct every year, big deal, are there like 6-7 true bubble teams every year? the committee rewards big conferences, we're in, win or lose

[forrest city joe]

                            My opinion iswe have to beat the Gators to get in.we need our best game of the season to win this game. either way, hats off to Stan and these kids.

[riccoar]

It's our conference record that's hurting us...none of his "locks" have a losing conf record.  It wouldn't have hurt us so much if there hadn't been some upsets (like Utah St) that reduced the number of bubble teams in

I believe we need to win tomorrow and secure the automatic bid

Our SEC record is 10-9 !

Regular season is what they go by.

[Uncle Jed]

Have no fear.  We are IN!

[Mark Lericos]

  If Arkansas loses to Florida... it's going to come down to one of two things:

  Either the committee loves the hot streak Arkansas is on and thinks they deserve a shot to keep rolling...
OR...

  The Hogs are punished for their dismal regular season. 7-9 in a terrible SEC West still looks ugly no matter how many wins you pile on top of it.  Those South Carolina, Missouri , Texas Tech, LSU losses are a big ole zit on the Hogs face.

  Arkansas is not a lock, and if Lunardi says Arkansas needs to win, he's probably dead on.

[jbcarol]

have faith in the committee people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they will make the right call win or lose, hogs will make the NCAAT

I have ZERO faith in the committee. The ESPN guy is usually right and we're still not even on the radar according to that guy.

The NCAA committee usually screws somebody over. It may be us tomorrow that gets screwed.

the committee usually sides with the big name conferences not the Old Dominions, Drexels, Air Force's of the world. regardless of what you think, ESPN does not run the selection committe

In fact I thought it was CBS (based on some very suspicious pairings in the last 25 years) until last year when I saw Billy Packer blow his stack and his partner Jim Nance have to issue a public apology 2 weeks later.  Billy does not apologize, he has "people" to do that for him.

[stan the man]

There is no way the SEC only gets four teams in the tourney.  They have to put at least one team from the West in.  Who else but Arkansas.  If we only get four teams in, the selection committee should be hung.

[stan the man]

Espn and all the east coast writers have no respect for the SEC.  They all suck suck suck.

[Pigonometry]

I agree but the SEC teams never gets the beneift of the doubt like the ACC, Big 10 and Big East do...........

[Pigonometry]

Our RPI is better than Vandy.  Our SOS is better than Vandy.  We have beaten Vandy twice in a week.  Why would they get in before us?  Doesn't make ANY sense at all.

They had a winning record in conference play.  That's the only thing keeping us from being a lock right now.

Those three 3-pt shots by that stupid, read-headed Newman of Georgia are still haunting us.........

[BigoBoys]

  If Arkansas loses to Florida... it's going to come down to one of two things:

  Either the committee loves the hot streak Arkansas is on and thinks they deserve a shot to keep rolling...
OR...

  The Hogs are punished for their dismal regular season. 7-9 in a terrible SEC West still looks ugly no matter how many wins you pile on top of it.  Those South Carolina, Missouri , Texas Tech, LSU losses are a big ole zit on the Hogs face.

  Arkansas is not a lock, and if Lunardi says Arkansas needs to win, he's probably dead on.

Those early losses were tough.  Let's hope the committee is looking for a talented and hot team that could cause some upsets in the first and second rounds and has fans that travel. 

[jhog]

yea i spoke with a buddy of mine on the selection committe he told me that he spoke with PRJ and they decided we should be included in the dance.

[Mark Lericos]

  Cuz Vandy hasn't lost to doormats and been blown out by lesser SEC schools.  They've beaten Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky twice.... the list goes on and on. 

[T2 RZB]

Mandel has 3 Colonial Conference teams in.  Automatic to VCU and his "Bubble Ins" Drexel and Old Dominion.  Drexel defeated Georgetown early in the season and Old Dominion defeated Syracuse.  Can this conference get three?

[Pigonometry]

Mandel has 3 Colonial Conference teams in.  Automatic to VCU and his "Bubble Ins" Drexel and Old Dominion.  Drexel defeated Georgetown early in the season and Old Dominion defeated Syracuse.  Can this conference get three?

They might but they won't deserve it..............

[yraciv]

Don't all of those teams except Mo. St. have an RPI above 40? I know K-State is around 50+.

These are all according to realtimerpi.com....

W. Virginia is 56, K-State is 54, Stanford 55, Air Force 29, Drexel 43, Old Dominion 38, Florida St. 46, Missouri St 39, Texas Tech 45, Clemson 47

WV, KS, Stanford, and Clemson should have no case over us.  I really am confused about this because Lunardi knows his stuff, but w/ an rpi as high as ours; I think he has to be way off this time.

[Ironhawg]

...said that Arkansas needs to win tomorrow to get in.  He doesn't have the hogs as a lock.

Joe Lunardi = Total tool

[zhog]

According to all these people the hogs arent even on the radar! Unbelievable!

[jbcarol]

Northeast bias mixed with a lack of understanding of some Committee key factors.  Parity in the SEC does not inherently make it inferior to parity in the east-based conferences.

Northeast bias (no offense to you practitioners at the Jones Center) was never more clear than the NHL strike.  Remember how much better Sports Center was on a Saturday night when there was no interruption for the latest staged hockey fight and to again not see the puck fly in the goal.

[playboy]

If Vandy gets in ahead of us, I'll go Ray lewis on someone

[iCalledThatHogBrotha!]

There is no way the SEC only gets four teams in the tourney.  They have to put at least one team from the West in.  Who else but Arkansas.  If we only get four teams in, the selection committee should be hung.

Espn and all the east coast writers have no respect for the SEC.  They all suck suck suck.

I agree but the SEC teams never gets the beneift of the doubt like the ACC, Big 10 and Big East do...........

You gotta think after last year, there's no way you discount the SEC this year.  I'm with Stan_the_man, Arkansas is the next logical choice after FL, KY, TN, VB (should be before VB)