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Arkansas State vs. Western Kentucky Game Thread

Started by NuttinItUp, March 05, 2007, 09:06:25 pm

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NuttinItUp

They are going to interview Dickey in a sec

 

Dwight_K_Shrute

Did Dickey run into the stands knock the band director over and lead the crowd in the fight song?  Just curious if that runs in the family.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

THROWITDEEP

Great for ASU!  They deserve to go to the dance if they win the next one......and I believe they will.   Good luck TRIBE!

HoggieStyle

Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on March 05, 2007, 11:08:14 pm
Did Dickey run into the stands knock the band director over and lead the crowd in the fight song?  Just curious if that runs in the family.

LMAO!!! +1

pioneerhog

ASU has a GOOD chance of making the big dance this year. Good win by them tonight and hears to hoping they win tommorow night.

NuttinItUp

Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on March 05, 2007, 11:08:14 pm
Did Dickey run into the stands knock the band director over and lead the crowd in the fight song?  Just curious if that runs in the family.
No, he actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about in the interview too.

THROWITDEEP


WBChogfan


NuttinItUp


pioneerhog

ASU swept UNT in both games during the regular season. They won 84-60 the first time in Jonesboro and 74-71 the second time at UNT.

Dwight_K_Shrute

The Nutts are better coaches the further South they go.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

hogginuplittlerock

hats off to them. good comeback and good performance overall. i'll definantly have my eyes set on ESPN 2 tomorrow night

 

NuttinItUp

Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on March 05, 2007, 11:13:04 pm
The Nutts are better coaches the further South they go.
Do they migrate south for the winter too?

HOGSWEAT

As far as I know, Just because his last name is Nutt doesn't mean he's a complete moron or jerk...

That's like saying if my dad was an abusing, crackhead rapist, that I'd be the exact same... (just kidding dad-huntindoc)

Kicking Wing

The Nutts always end up pulling their nuts out of the fire at the end.  2 weeks ago Dickey was on the verge of a buyout.  He saved his job already and he has everyone but Jom Jones coming back next year if Wells makes his grades.

I am beginning to think the Nutts are related to the Clintons.

THROWITDEEP

Quote from: NuttinItUp on March 05, 2007, 11:13:56 pm
Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on March 05, 2007, 11:13:04 pm
The Nutts are better coaches the further South they go.
Do they migrate south for the winter too?

The Capital One Bowl was pretty far south and that didn't turn out so well.

92VolGrad

that adds fuel to the fire of Heath job  huh ?

NuttinItUp

Quote from: AR Taco04 on March 05, 2007, 11:15:20 pm
As far as I know, Just because his last name is Nutt doesn't mean he's a complete moron or jerk...

That's like saying if my dad was an abusing, crackhead rapist, that I'd be the exact same... (just kidding dad-huntindoc)

I agree. I don't know much about Dickey, but he seems to be a classy guy


stAtefan

This is the longest thread EVER regarding ASU that hasn't been sent to the Trash can.

pioneerhog


insane indian

Quote from: NuttinItUp on March 05, 2007, 11:17:51 pm
Quote from: AR Taco04 on March 05, 2007, 11:15:20 pm
As far as I know, Just because his last name is Nutt doesn't mean he's a complete moron or jerk...

That's like saying if my dad was an abusing, crackhead rapist, that I'd be the exact same... (just kidding dad-huntindoc)

I agree. I don't know much about Dickey, but he seems to be a classy guy

Sorry, but Dickey is EXACTLY like Houston.  This situation compares to the same situation that y'all faced with Houston going 10-4.  Adrian Banks is to Dickey as McFadden is to Houston.  It equals the same thing, neither school busts a Nutt this year.

stAtefan

Quote from: pioneerhogGo State.

Shhhhhhhhh

You're going to get this thing banished to the Trash.   ;)

 

pioneerhog

Quote from: stAtefan on March 05, 2007, 11:30:59 pm
Quote from: pioneerhogGo State.

Shhhhhhhhh

You're going to get this thing banished to the Trash.   ;)
You talking to me? If you are I removed my topic that I am thinking you might have been talking about.

NuttinItUp

If we played them in the NCAA tourney, what do you think the chances that AState would win would be?

stAtefan

Quote from: pioneerhog on March 05, 2007, 11:33:17 pm
Quote from: stAtefan on March 05, 2007, 11:30:59 pm
Quote from: pioneerhogGo State.

Shhhhhhhhh

You're going to get this thing banished to the Trash.   ;)
You talking to me? If you are I removed my topic that I am thinking you might have been talking about.

No, I am talking about your "go state" post.  That is usually enough to get it the whole thing sent away.

stAtefan

Quote from: NuttinItUp on March 05, 2007, 11:38:40 pm
If we played them in the NCAA tourney, what do you think the chances that AState would win would be?

Depends.  If Beverly was on from 3pt range, it wouldn't be close.  Otherwise, I think it would be a great game.

pioneerhog

Quote from: stAtefan on March 05, 2007, 11:40:04 pm
Quote from: pioneerhog on March 05, 2007, 11:33:17 pm
Quote from: stAtefan on March 05, 2007, 11:30:59 pm
Quote from: pioneerhogGo State.

Shhhhhhhhh

You're going to get this thing banished to the Trash.   ;)
You talking to me? If you are I removed my topic that I am thinking you might have been talking about.

No, I am talking about your "go state" post.  That is usually enough to get it the whole thing sent away.
Ok my original post was one about something Dickey did that was like something Houston would do.

Arkstfan

Quote from: NuttinItUp on March 05, 2007, 11:38:40 pm
If we played them in the NCAA tourney, what do you think the chances that AState would win would be?

No way Arkansas goes in seeded high enough to face ASU. We'll be lucky to get a 15 but having spent March at home every year since 1999, a 15 or 16 would work for me.

This is only the second time ASU has made a conference tournament final in the Sun Belt. Last time was also at Lafayette and we won.

WBChogfan

Quote from: NuttinItUp on March 05, 2007, 11:38:40 pm
If we played them in the NCAA tourney, what do you think the chances that AState would win would be?

Pretty good.  Arkansas won't get a very high seed.  Arkansas State will be lucky to get a 15 seed.  If ASU survives the first round matchup to meet Arkansas in the second round, I think they will have shown that they can beat a quality opponent.

ErieHog

If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.
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LoseAnutt

Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.
After watching Arkansas State last night, they sure looked like they could justify being a 10 seed. Western Kentucky is no joke and has always been tough in b-ball. Remember this is the same Western Kentucky team that beat Georgia this year.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Quote from: LoseAnutt on March 06, 2007, 06:31:47 am
Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.
After watching Arkansas State last night, they sure looked like they could justify being a 10 seed. Western Kentucky is no joke and has always been tough in b-ball. Remember this is the same Western Kentucky team that beat Georgia this year.

There's no way ASU gets anywhere close to a 10 seed. A 19-14 record is going to hurt.  I just hope they arent in the play-in game.

ErieHog

Quote from: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater on March 06, 2007, 07:29:09 am
Quote from: LoseAnutt on March 06, 2007, 06:31:47 am
Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.
After watching Arkansas State last night, they sure looked like they could justify being a 10 seed. Western Kentucky is no joke and has always been tough in b-ball. Remember this is the same Western Kentucky team that beat Georgia this year.

There's no way ASU gets anywhere close to a 10 seed. A 19-14 record is going to hurt.  I just hope they arent in the play-in game.

The traditional slot for a Sun Belt champ is anywhere from 10 on the high side, to 13 on the low.

I wouldn't put it past the committee to engineer a matchup, though, especially if one bracket is looking to be heavier than the others-  it'd be a good game to 'soften' a hard bracket.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Lanny

"It's only a game if you win but if you lose it's a stinking waste of time."

Al Bundy

MDH

Does this mean we'll get another Nutt on the hill next year?
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chiefsfan

Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.

2 things

1)  even if Arkansas wins the SEC tournament the best possible record would be 22-12.  Which is probably an 8 or a 9 seed
2)  ASU will probably be a 15 or 16 seed.  Every bracket I have seen so far has us in the play in game against UAPB or whoever wins the SWAC.   Winner would either face UCLA or Ohio State

That being said, tonight aint going to be easy, Kendrick Davis and co over at North Texas are playing for their first every conference championship and are sure to be fired up
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

razorhead69

It would be cool to see 3 teams from the state make the dance. State,UAPB, and the Hogs.
With that being said none will make it.

cosmodrum

At least ONE Arkansas team has a legit shot at the tourney.
Go away, batin'


ErieHog

Quote from: chiefsfan on March 06, 2007, 09:51:15 am
Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.

2 things

1)  even if Arkansas wins the SEC tournament the best possible record would be 22-12.  Which is probably an 8 or a 9 seed
2)  ASU will probably be a 15 or 16 seed.  Every bracket I have seen so far has us in the play in game against UAPB or whoever wins the SWAC.   Winner would either face UCLA or Ohio State

That being said, tonight aint going to be easy, Kendrick Davis and co over at North Texas are playing for their first every conference championship and are sure to be fired up

The SEC TC has never had a seed lower than Arkansas 11th seed, and that was a 19-15 squad in a strong year for the Top 25 teams.   An Arkansas team that wins the SECT will have more wins, and better wins than that squad, and when the Top 25 includes teams like UNLV and Winthrop, and there's such parity, I wouldn't be shocked to see a 7th seed out of all of this.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

chiefsfan

Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 10:17:29 am
Quote from: chiefsfan on March 06, 2007, 09:51:15 am
Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.

2 things

1)  even if Arkansas wins the SEC tournament the best possible record would be 22-12.  Which is probably an 8 or a 9 seed
2)  ASU will probably be a 15 or 16 seed.  Every bracket I have seen so far has us in the play in game against UAPB or whoever wins the SWAC.   Winner would either face UCLA or Ohio State

That being said, tonight aint going to be easy, Kendrick Davis and co over at North Texas are playing for their first every conference championship and are sure to be fired up

The SEC TC has never had a seed lower than Arkansas 11th seed, and that was a 19-15 squad in a strong year for the Top 25 teams.   An Arkansas team that wins the SECT will have more wins, and better wins than that squad, and when the Top 25 includes teams like UNLV and Winthrop, and there's such parity, I wouldn't be shocked to see a 7th seed out of all of this.



Its possible.   But alot of that depends on who we play in the SECT.   Beating South Carolina is to be expected, and while beating Vandy would be a nice win, we have done it once already, and it may be written off as a team struggling at the wrong time.   The problem lies in that in the semis if we end up playing an SEC west team on an upset run, same with the finals

To improve our seeding, it would almost be better for us to play Florida in the finals.   However it also increases our chances of losing and not making the tourney.    It really is a pick your own poison situation

Then again we could lose to South Carolina Thursday and this will all be mute, and we will all go back to placing the flowers on Stan's grave, rather then trying to get a court order for exumation
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

Razorback88

Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 07:31:35 am
Quote from: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater on March 06, 2007, 07:29:09 am
Quote from: LoseAnutt on March 06, 2007, 06:31:47 am
Quote from: ErieHog on March 06, 2007, 06:13:36 am
If both teams win their tournament, a 24 win Arkansas team would not be a terrible 6 seed, while ASU would be a stretch to make a 10 seed.     That's your best bet for a 1st round matchup.
After watching Arkansas State last night, they sure looked like they could justify being a 10 seed. Western Kentucky is no joke and has always been tough in b-ball. Remember this is the same Western Kentucky team that beat Georgia this year.

There's no way ASU gets anywhere close to a 10 seed. A 19-14 record is going to hurt.  I just hope they arent in the play-in game.

The traditional slot for a Sun Belt champ is anywhere from 10 on the high side, to 13 on the low.

I wouldn't put it past the committee to engineer a matchup, though, especially if one bracket is looking to be heavier than the others-  it'd be a good game to 'soften' a hard bracket.

No, the Sun Belt usually gets a 14/15 spot.  ASU will be a 16 because they will be 19-14 with a terrible non-conference resume.  I actually think it would be cool for them to get a play-in game; it's the only game on Tuesday night with a chance to get a tourney win.  The play-in teams always get more exposure than the other three 16's.

Arkstfan

Based on current RPI, Arkansas would likely be an 11 or 12 seed if they make the tournament.

ASU probably a 16 but could be a 15. The Sun Belt more normally is seeded in the 15 to 13 range according to past brackets I've looked at. Straight by RPI, ASU looks like a 16 if we win tonight, however some big factors can cause the committee to bounce a team upward.

The first is last ten games. If ASU wins tonight the record for last ten is 7-3, with 7 consecutive wins. The second factor is play early in the year doesn't weigh as heavy as late in the year.

The other is the loss or return of a player. The Indians started the year 4-7 against Division I teams (6-7 overall but of no interest to the committee) during this time point guard Jim Jones was suspended. After his return ASU has been 12-7 against Division I. ASU is 10-5 the second half of the season. That could cause a small bump in seeding, recognizing that half the losses came while Jones was out.

Razorback88

Quote from: Arkstfan on March 06, 2007, 11:53:11 am
Based on current RPI, Arkansas would likely be an 11 or 12 seed if they make the tournament.

ASU probably a 16 but could be a 15. The Sun Belt more normally is seeded in the 15 to 13 range according to past brackets I've looked at. Straight by RPI, ASU looks like a 16 if we win tonight, however some big factors can cause the committee to bounce a team upward.

The first is last ten games. If ASU wins tonight the record for last ten is 7-3, with 7 consecutive wins. The second factor is play early in the year doesn't weigh as heavy as late in the year.

The other is the loss or return of a player. The Indians started the year 4-7 against Division I teams (6-7 overall but of no interest to the committee) during this time point guard Jim Jones was suspended. After his return ASU has been 12-7 against Division I. ASU is 10-5 the second half of the season. That could cause a small bump in seeding, recognizing that half the losses came while Jones was out.

I would like to see them in the 15 spot or the play-in game. 

chiefsfan

If we get a 16 seed, Id prefer playing either UCLA or Florida.   Last thing id be interested in is watching us have to play Ohio State or North Carolina
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.