up to the minutw rpi ranking

[cityhog]

made a pretty good jump.

RPI 49, SOS 13

http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

[Bomis Hawg]

7-12 v. RPI Top 100.

Makes you wonder if Arkansas makes it to the SECT finals and no true upsets in other major conference tournaments, where Arkansas would slide in at?

Could be an interesting weekend.

[razorbackfan4life]

7-12 v. RPI Top 100.

Makes you wonder if Arkansas makes it to the SECT finals and no true upsets in other major conference tournaments, where Arkansas would slide in at?

Could be an interesting weekend.

So you're saying that we can still make the NCAA tourney even if we dont win SEC championship?

[cityhog]

I'm starting to wonder if 2 wins in the SECT might get us in.  Esp. if one is against a higher ranked opp/RPI than us. Or are all RPI rankings sort of thrown out the window at conference tourney time?

[Bomis Hawg]

I think Arkansas has a VERY slim chance to make it without winning the SECT. 
I wouldn't say 100% NIT bound if they lost, but a lot needs to happen likely.

3 wins and a close call in the finals?  Who knows.  Stranger things have happened, but I bet they'd be left out if they didn't win it all.

[cityhog]

We need to have some upsets to happen this weekend in the low 30's and high 40's in the RPI eankings.

[Pigonometry]

I'm starting to wonder if 2 wins in the SECT might get us in.  Esp. if one is against a higher ranked opp/RPI than us. Or are all RPI rankings sort of thrown out the window at conference tourney time?

Two wins MIGHT do it but it would also depend upon who we LOSE to in the SECT..........

[cityhog]

I think Arkansas has a VERY slim chance to make it without winning the SECT. 
I wouldn't say 100% NIT bound if they lost, but a lot needs to happen likely.

3 wins and a close call in the finals?  Who knows.  Stranger things have happened, but I bet they'd be left out if they didn't win it all.

It sure would be strange for the NCAA slection comittee to put Bama (considered a lock by some sites) in the tourney with us having beaten them twice, and a very real possibility they end up w/ same conference mark as we do.  They would have some 'splaining to do.

[Bomis Hawg]

I bet one and a max of two from the SECW makes the tournament.  The winner of the division and if a team gets hot (or wins the SECT).

[94 Hawg]

Washington (now 18-12) just beat #2 UCLA.  that didn't help

[Ouachihog]

Oklahoma State lost at Baylor to drop to 6-9 in the big 12 with one game (at nebraska) to go.  Also, winthrop fended off VMI to gain the automatic bid out of the big south.  Both of these helped. 

[Adam Stokes]

Washington (now 18-12) just beat #2 UCLA.  that didn't help

8-10 in conference, 73 RPI and a 54 SOS, only decent non-con wins against LSU and Northern Iowa, they have to do well in the Pac-10 tourny to get in.

[Hogtropolis™]

made a pretty good jump.

RPI 49, SOS 13

http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

We started the day at  #59 in the RPI rankings.  If we can win 3 games in the SECT, but can't manage to win it all, we would finish 21-13 and I imagine we would be in low 30's (maybe high 20's) in the RPI rankings.  I could see us getting into the NCAAT with those numbers.

[Bomis Hawg]

Stranger things have happened, I guess.

Arkansas needs a strong showing.  A blowout win or two.  They can't win 3 games by a combined 5 or so points.  Need to show the committee that Arkansas can play.

[lightsout]

I can't recall our RPI, but in 2000 I remember the tournamnet committee saying that we defninitely would not have been in if we had lost in the final.  And we were 7-9 that year as well

[cityhog]

I can't recall our RPI, but in 2000 I remember the tournamnet committee saying that we defninitely would not have been in if we had lost in the final.  And we were 7-9 that year as well

what was our overall record going into the tourney that year?  Was that the year we lost to American University-PR in the preseason tourney.  We were pretty awful that year.

[Publius]

made a pretty good jump.

RPI 49, SOS 13

http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

We started the day at  #59 in the RPI rankings.  If we can win 3 games in the SECT, but can't manage to win it all, we would finish 21-13 and I imagine we would be in low 30's (maybe high 20's) in the RPI rankings.  I could see us getting into the NCAAT with those numbers.

I agree that 3 wins in Atlanta would boost our RPI and probably make our at large bid prospect a little better than 50/50.  However, barring a bid to the big dance, do we take a NIT bid particularly if Heath is toast?

[Publius]

I agree that 3 wins in Atlanta would boost our RPI and probably make our at large bid prospect a little better than 50/50.  However, barring a bid to the big dance, do we take a NIT bid particularly if Heath is toast?

[Bomis Hawg]

2000 Arkansas finished the regular season with an RPI of 45.  Was 7-9 and won the SECT.
1999 Arkansas finished 20-9; 9-7.

[cityhog]

2000 Arkansas finished the regular season with an RPI of 45.  Was 7-9 and won the SECT.
1999 Arkansas finished 20-9; 9-7.

doesn't bode well for getting in w/o winning the SECT

[Hogtropolis™]

I agree that 3 wins in Atlanta would boost our RPI and probably make our at large bid prospect a little better than 50/50.  However, barring a bid to the big dance, do we take a NIT bid particularly if Heath is toast?

I think we should take an NIT bid if we don't make the NCAAT.  I think the more tournament experience we can get the better no matter who the coach is.

[Hogtropolis™]

FWIW, we are actually up to #48 in the RPI now.

[Publius]

I agree that 3 wins in Atlanta would boost our RPI and probably make our at large bid prospect a little better than 50/50.  However, barring a bid to the big dance, do we take a NIT bid particularly if Heath is toast?

I think we should take an NIT bid if we don't make the NCAAT.  I think the more tournament experience we can get the better no matter who the coach is.

Even if SH is gone regardless of the NIT result or appearance?

[revolution]

Supposedly when the Committee is looking to give out at-large berths, the conference record means nothing.  What they do is look at your body of work as compared against the others who are being considered.  Arkansas will definitely be in the discussion if they win two in the SECT.  If they win 3, I believe they'll be in. 

Who would've thunk it?

By the way, it just shows you how Heath bungled a golden opportunity.  If only this team had a motivator, their invite would be a foregone conclusion.  There's no reason this team couldn't be a 5 or 6 seed.

[revolution]

One more thought - it would probably be better to get the #4 seed in the SECT, since then we could play a decent team on Thursday instead of S.Carolina who will face the West #3.  The Hogs can still get in without winning the SECT if they get their RPI number up in the low 40's.  Beating a Kentucky or Tenn from the East would do wonders for their rpi, and after looking at the other teams's records from across the nation, we could be in just by surviving until Sat., and if we make it to Sunday, we're a virtual lock.

Unbelievable!

[d1nonlyhogfan]

made a pretty good jump.

RPI 49, SOS 13

http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

Already up to 48 RPI, baby! Keep climbing the charts!

[d1nonlyhogfan]

Question: If Miss St blows Bama off the court, do we have a chance to best them in RPI going into the SECT?

[wirebender25]

Didn't Georgia get in a fews years ago with a losing record in the sec?

[Adam Stokes]

Didn't Georgia get in a fews years ago with a losing record in the sec?

Nope, the only SEC team to get in with a losing record was Bama in 03'.  They had an RPI of 38 despite losin gin the first round of the SEC tourny.

Question: If Miss St blows Bama off the court, do we have a chance to best them in RPI going into the SECT?

  It doesn't matter if Bama loses by 1 or 50, in Rpi a loss is a loss.  Right now Bama is at 38, I predict if they lose they will fall to around 42-44 range, putting them just in front of us.  However, we could certainly pass them with some SEC tourny wins.

[PigDaddyKane]

Didn't Georgia get in a fews years ago with a losing record in the sec?

I think it was Bama that got in with a 7-9 SEC record.  They had a tough non-conference schedule.  I think ours could match that non-conference schedule this year.

If we are 3rd in the SEC W we will play South Carolina then Vandy.

[jbcarol]

I think Arkansas has a VERY slim chance to make it without winning the SECT. 
I wouldn't say 100% NIT bound if they lost, but a lot needs to happen likely.

3 wins and a close call in the finals?  Who knows.  Stranger things have happened, but I bet they'd be left out if they didn't win it all.

It sure would be strange for the NCAA slection comittee to put Bama (considered a lock by some sites) in the tourney with us having beaten them twice, and a very real possibility they end up w/ same conference mark as we do.  They would have some 'splaining to do.

If it happens chalk it up to a Jamareo Davidson sympathy factor.  The young man has gone thru more this season than most would in a lifetime.  But that should not get you a bid.

[jbcarol]

Road wins + SOS trumps RPI.  After watching Kentucky achieve #1 RPI and a 2 seed so many years

[jbcarol]

Didn't Georgia get in a fews years ago with a losing record in the sec?

I think it was Bama that got in with a 7-9 SEC record.  They had a tough non-conference schedule.  I think ours could match that non-conference schedule this year.

If we are 3rd in the SEC W we will play South Carolina then Vandy.

After several years of stellar records but weak non-conference schedules, 'Bama finally got the memo and scheduled some tough non-conf. games.  The committee threw them a bone for their immediate obedience.

[cityhog]

Road wins + SOS trumps RPI.  After watching Kentucky achieve #1 RPI and a 2 seed so many years

Well we are 50/50 there

SOS   

Road wins   

[jbcarol]

Question: If Miss St blows Bama off the court, do we have a chance to best them in RPI going into the SECT?

Arkansas would be ahead of Alabama as of right now.  Arkansas can not afford to get knocked out of the SECT by another Bubble Team. 

[jbcarol]

Road wins + SOS trumps RPI.  After watching Kentucky achieve #1 RPI and a 2 seed so many years

Well we are 50/50 there


SOS  

Road wins  

Road wins over red hot #19 Vandy in Memorial and at the time #12 Alabama.  Maybe no bubble team has two higher quality road wins.  Check out today's Game Thread for analysis.

[playboy]

If we make it to the finals of the SECT, we are a lock.  21 wins by and SEC team, with an RPI in the 30s and a SOS in the top 15.  That's a lock.

Now, I don't think there's any way in hell we make it to the finals, but if we do, we're a lock.

[Adam Stokes]

RPI UPDATE: We have moved up to a tie of 45 in RPI with the Michigan loss.  That's a jump of 14 spots in one day, things are going our way.  We could move up to 43 if both Texas Tech and Clemson lose tonight.  We will likely end up at 44 for Clemson will probably lose but TT won't.

[rebelhogdog]

7-12 v. RPI Top 100.

Makes you wonder if Arkansas makes it to the SECT finals and no true upsets in other major conference tournaments, where Arkansas would slide in at?

Could be an interesting weekend.

I was thinking that same thing this afternoon.....its a reach but we could backdoor in there, still don't think it will happen

[USCoastGuard]

Current!

45   Arkansas  18-12  0.5862 12  0.5895   Sec 7-9

[playboy]

Southern Illinois is ranked 4th in the RPI and it looks like they are about to lose to Creighton, which will hurt us badly.

[94 Hawg]

#48 now

[razorbackfan4life]

I really REALLY want to go to the tournament.....it just blows my mind how Arkansas has to struggle to get in.  It never used to be like this....  We would ALWAYS be a lock.

[94 Hawg]

just dropped to 49th

[deucea729]

Dropping like a rock - #50

[owl]

Why are we dropping so?

[deucea729]

SIU loss hurt us for sure.  But there must be other things going on today affecting us as well...

[razorbackfan4life]

regardless of rpi......we need to make it to the finals of the SEC tourney

[Hogtropolis™]

Dropping like a rock - #50

We got down to #51 yesterday and now we are back up to #48.  What happened since last night that effected the RPI?

[Bomis Hawg]

I think its more of what happens to other teams than Arkansas.
A team could pull an upset.  The team that is ahead of Arkansas could've beat the team that got beat, thus Arkansas jumping them.

Just a thought.