TaxSlayer Bowl Vs. Iowa?

[redleg]

The Gator Bowl normally IS on New Year's Day. Not sure why it isn't this year, other than its lost its NYD appeal thanks to Taxslayer changing the bowl name for nothing more than corporate dollars. I refuse to call it the taxslayer bowl. It is, and always will be, the Gator Bowl. Shame on taxslayer. 
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[gchamblee]

Didn't say they were a truly bad team.  But when you literally have more talent than them at every position on the field, and you lose, that's a bad loss.

If we beat bama this year and go 10-2, is that a bad loss for them?

[Wildhog]

If we beat bama this year and go 10-2, is that a bad loss for them?

Hell yes it is.

However, that's still apples and oranges, as we play in the same conference.  Toledo plays in the MAC.

[hogcard1964]

If we beat bama this year and go 10-2, is that a bad loss for them?

Yes

[LRRandy]

Hell yes it is.

However, that's still apples and oranges, as we play in the same conference.  Toledo plays in the MAC.

I agree. Even an upset win by any team within the sec isn't shocking because of the level of talent each team has compared to teams in the Mac or sun belt conferences.

[Wildhog]

I agree. Even an upset win by any team within the sec isn't shocking because of the level of talent each team has compared to teams in the Mac or sun belt conferences.

Any decent SEC team should beat any good MAC team.  Every time all the time.

[LRRandy]

The Gator Bowl normally IS on New Year's Day. Not sure why it isn't this year, other than its lost its NYD appeal thanks to Taxslayer changing the bowl name for nothing more than corporate dollars. I refuse to call it the taxslayer bowl. It is, and always will be, the Gator Bowl. Shame on taxslayer. 
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the gator bowl is a nice consolation prize when a team falls just short of the 12 teams that make up playoff committee picks. That bowl is a notch below the big 6 games but a notch above the December bowls.

[LRRandy]

Any decent SEC team should beat any good MAC team.  Every time all the time.

correct. That's why it's shocking when it happens. Shocking or glorious. Who didn't love seeing Bama fall to Louisiana Monroe or Xichigan get beat by App St. Those upsets can be awesome when they happen to a rival.

[gchamblee]

You guys are right, but you are ignoring the question I was answering. Toledo was not a "truly bad" team. They were 10-2 with a win over an SEC team.

[Wildhog]

You guys are right, but you are ignoring the question I was answering. Toledo was not a "truly bad" team. They were 10-2 with a win over an SEC team.

They didn't even win the MAC.  And I already answered your question, but I'll do it again.  Are they a "bad" football team, in general?  No.

But any decent SEC team should beat them every single time.  If you don't consider it a bad loss, that's fine.  But don't act like it's unreasonable to think otherwise.

[bcdeputy]

Heck yes, good bowl... I would be happy with it

[hogcard1964]

You guys are right, but you are ignoring the question I was answering. Toledo was not a "truly bad" team. They were 10-2 with a win over an SEC team.

Compared to the SEC they're "bad". 

[gchamblee]

They didn't even win the MAC.  And I already answered your question, but I'll do it again.  Are they a "bad" football team, in general?  No.

But any decent SEC team should beat them every single time.  If you don't consider it a bad loss, that's fine.  But don't act like it's unreasonable to think otherwise.

I didnt say it wasn't a bad loss. Why are you struggling with my opinion that they were not a "truly bad" team, which was the question hogtard asked? You are turning this into an adversarial back and forth when it doesn't need to be.

[Wildhog]

I didnt say it wasn't a bad loss. Why are you struggling with my opinion that they were not a "truly bad" team, which was the question hogtard asked? You are turning this into an adversarial back and forth when it doesn't need to be.

I'm not struggling with anything, nor am I being adversarial.  Tone is sometimes hard to interpret through text- especially on a message board.

You don't consider them a bad loss and I'm just explaining my case for opposing that opinion.

[GuvHog]

I would take it every day and twice on Sunday!

Let's not get carried away. I wouldn't complain because it would be the first time CBB has had a Hog team win 8 regular season games since his arrival. The fact that it has taken him at least 5 years to achieve that is very mystifying.

[hogcard1964]

Let's not get carried away. I wouldn't complain because it would be the first time CBB has had a Hog team win 8 regular season games since his arrival. The fact that it has taken him at least 5 years to achieve that is very mystifying.

Not to mention, I think most of us expect the usual level of "suckage" we've experienced over the past several years.  I'd be very shocked if we made it beyond a "Liberty, Music City, or Independence" type of bowl.

[Wildhog]

Let's not get carried away. I wouldn't complain because it would be the first time CBB has had a Hog team win 8 regular season games since his arrival. The fact that it has taken him at least 5 years to achieve that is very mystifying.

Mystifying is one way to put it.  Completely unacceptable is another.

[Hoggish1]

Still almost 3 months until the first game is played, those expert predictions will change at least 2 dozen times.

Why do you call them experts?

[LZH]

Mystifying is one way to put it.  Completely unacceptable is another.

Welp, we're up to 11th in the SEC in grades....so it's OK.

[hogcard1964]

Welp, we're up to 11th in the SEC in grades....so it's OK.

11th in grades?  This is "good"?

[gchamblee]

11th in grades?  This is "good"?

We are looking for improvement, which we have done. Spin it bad if you want, and we all know you do, but we are much better than we have been.

[Al Boarland]

We are looking for improvement, which we have done. Spin it bad if you want, and we all know you do, but we are much better than we have been.

I agree. Things like APR aren't really about what everyone else is doing. If you are improving that's a positive.

[gchamblee]

I agree. Things like APR aren't really about what everyone else is doing. If you are improving that's a positive.

Yep. Its like mocking a fat person for losing weight just because all their friends are skinny. Good on you and may you have continued success in trying to improve yourself.

[hogcard1964]

We are looking for improvement, which we have done. Spin it bad if you want, and we all know you do, but we are much better than we have been.

I'm pretty sure LZH was being facetious.

[LZH]

11th in grades?  This is "good"?

Yes!...(high-fives all around!).

[LZH]

I'm pretty sure LZH was being facetious.

Aw, come on man. 11th in the SEC would put us in the Independence Bowl of APR. What's not to be excited about?

[hogcard1964]

Aw, come on man. 11th in the SEC would put us in the Independence Bowl of APR. What's not to be excited about?

LOL!!

[Inhogswetrust]

Mystifying is one way to put it.  Completely unacceptable is another.

So a MAC tram has beaten Arkansas. The Sunbelt must be ecstatic and ready to join the P5 since ULM has beaten both Arkansas AND Alabama with Saban. Here's a shocker for you............ upsets happen all the time.

[gchamblee]

I'm pretty sure LZH was being facetious.

I responded to you, not him.

[hogcard1964]

I responded to you, not him.

You serious Clark?

I was insinuating that if we're actually celebrating the fact that we're 11th academically within a conference, that, that in and of itself is pretty pathetic.

[Wildhog]

So a MAC tram has beaten Arkansas. The Sunbelt must be ecstatic and ready to join the P5 since ULM has beaten both Arkansas AND Alabama with Saban. Here's a shocker for you............ upsets happen all the time.

Huh?  That post you quoted was about CBB not winning 8 regular season games yet.

[gchamblee]

You serious Clark?

I was insinuating that if we're actually celebrating the fact that we're 11th academically within a conference, that, that in and of itself is pretty pathetic.

It is not pathetic if you are celebrating improvement, which we are. If you have something that you need to improve, like for instance APR, and do in fact make markable improvement, that is worth celebrating. I don't think they will stop trying to improve now that they are 11th. Why don't you just admit that you have no argument against being proud of making improvement and are just upset that the current administration has done something worthwhile. Your schtick is really old and has zero entertainment value.

We aren't celebrating being 11th, we are celebrating improvement.

[hogcard1964]

It is not pathetic if you are celebrating improvement, which we are. If you have something that you need to improve, like for instance APR, and do in fact make markable improvement, that is worth celebrating. I don't think they will stop trying to improve now that they are 11th. Why don't you just admit that you have no argument against being proud of making improvement and are just upset that the current administration has done something worthwhile. Your schtick is really old and has zero entertainment value.

We aren't celebrating being 11th, we are celebrating improvement.

OK, I can understand that.  However, it's still pathetic that we're 11th academically within a conference that's not known for it's academics.

[gchamblee]

OK, I can understand that.  However, it's still pathetic that we're 11th academically within a conference that's not known for it's academics.

Well I am happy that it makes a little more sense to you now. However, one thing I wish you would change your view on and hopefully over time you will.... You claim it is pathetic that we are ranked 11th in APR in a conference that is not viewed as an academics juggernaut, which is true. But how can you hold that opinion and at the same time mock the university for trying to fix that very problem? It doesn't make sense. It feels like you are mocking them for being slow, and then mocking them for improving their speed.

I am going to make a guess, which means it is very possible that I am wrong, but I "think" you are just so accustomed to mocking the program that you sometimes don't realize what it is that you are actually mocking. Maybe take a few minutes and ponder what it is that you are mocking, and then decide if it is actually mock worthy or something worthy of a little attaboy.

[BigSexyHog]

Until CBB can start beating A&M, Mizz, and Miss St we will always struggle in the SEC.  2 of those should be guaranteed wins.   No excuses for losing to Miss St and Miss.  Zero

[gchamblee]

Until CBB can start beating A&M, Mizz, and Miss St we will always struggle in the SEC.  2 of those should be guaranteed wins.   No excuses for losing to Miss St and Miss.  Zero

We have been beating Ole Miss even when we weren't supposed to, even with them having more bought talent than they have ever had. We beat State last year and set an offensive record in the process. Mizzou I agree with. aTm is not a pushover and I hope that he finally beats them this year.

[Wildhog]

We have been beating Ole Miss even when we weren't supposed to, even with them having more bought talent than they have ever had. We beat State last year and set an offensive record in the process. Mizzou I agree with. aTm is not a pushover and I hope that he finally beats them this year.

I'm pretty sure he meant Mizzou, not Ole Miss.

[Inhogswetrust]

Huh?  That post you quoted was about CBB not winning 8 regular season games yet.

Sorry I got the wrong quote................

[gchamblee]

I'm pretty sure he meant Mizzou, not Ole Miss.

That makes sense. Anyone using Miss as an indictment against CBB would be doing so at their own peril. Even Bama has lost to them and we have pretty much shoved our boot down their throat repeatedly.

[Stephen Greene]

uh, no

[Hogwild]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football-bowl-projections-2017

athlon released their bowl projections for 2017

Texas Bowl   
Dec. 27 ESPN
Big 12 vs. SEC
Baylor vs.Arkansas