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615hawg

December 26, 2009, 08:05:48 pm
Rich Rodriguez to Florida anyone? He ain't gonna get it done at Michigan and they want him out, so he could take the Gators job. Then, Les Miles would leave LSU to take the Michigan job, and LSU hires some bum

Just a thought, but that'd be some crazy shiznitt
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Zen_Hog

December 26, 2009, 08:06:47 pm #1
Let's hope it happens because we all know the spread won't work in the SEC.
 

discombobulationist

December 26, 2009, 08:08:02 pm #2
Why in the world would UF want michigans reject?
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615hawg

December 26, 2009, 08:09:48 pm #3
Quote from: discombobulationist on December 26, 2009, 08:08:02 pm
Why in the world would UF want michigans reject?

Spread offense, essentially what Meyer runs
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razorbrass

December 26, 2009, 08:11:41 pm #4
No way Florida goes after him - damaged goods.  I say Stoops at OU, the TCU coach or the Boise coach.
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EnemyOfMojo

December 26, 2009, 08:32:59 pm #5
Rich Rod turned Michigan around backwards. In Lloyd Carr's last two seasons, they couldn't beat Ohio State but they were a national power. Rich Rod's Michigan is that giant sucking sound Ross Perot heard.

3kgthog

December 26, 2009, 08:35:45 pm #6
UF will not even put out a feeler for this bum.

ErieHog

December 26, 2009, 08:38:59 pm #7
Quote from: 615hawg on December 26, 2009, 08:09:48 pm
Spread offense, essentially what Meyer runs

Not really.  That's like saying our spread and  Florida's are the same.

Florida has an elite pocket recruit waiting in the wings for next year.   I can't imagine why they'd want to completely blow that up, and the past year of offensive scheme adaptation to a more pass-oriented personnel package , just to start over with a guy with no Florida ties and a reputation for running one of the games' most storied programs into the ground.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

hawgsav1

December 26, 2009, 09:08:27 pm #8
Quote from: ErieHog on December 26, 2009, 08:38:59 pm
Not really.  That's like saying our spread and  Florida's are the same.

Florida has an elite pocket recruit waiting in the wings for next year.   I can't imagine why they'd want to completely blow that up, and the past year of offensive scheme adaptation to a more pass-oriented personnel package , just to start over with a guy with no Florida ties and a reputation for running one of the games' most storied programs into the ground.

I doubt RRod will be picked by Florida.  Nevertheless, I'm still of the opinion that RR is a good coach.  He just chose to jump to Michigan at the worst possible time, and compounded his mistake because NONE of the personnel on that team that Lloyd Carr left fit his scheme, offensively or defensively.  Also making things worse, he wasn't able to get Terrelle Pryor out of Jeannette.  He had traditional pro-style offensive players on the O-line, meaning players that weighed 300+ lbs or so, when his spread run blocking scheme generally prefers them to be a more svelte 270-280 lbs and much more mobile.  His QBs (Mallett included), were the cannon armed immobile players that tend to grace NFL rosters, but not lead his teams.  The defensive scheme was all set to run a 4-3, while RR wanted to switch to the 3-3-5 stack, something that led to the English/RR schism, which led to English leaving.  Just a boneheaded decision by a good coach.
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hoggusamoungus

December 26, 2009, 09:46:21 pm #9
Quote from: discombobulationist on December 26, 2009, 08:08:02 pm
Why in the world would UF want michigans reject?

Don't forget he was hired at Bama and then backed out, opening the door for Saban.  It's been the square peg/round hole thing at Michigan but not too long ago he was everyone's choice.

Iwastherein1969

December 27, 2009, 08:34:22 am #10
Quote from: ErieHog on December 26, 2009, 08:38:59 pm
Not really.  That's like saying our spread and  Florida's are the same.

Florida has an elite pocket recruit waiting in the wings for next year.   I can't imagine why they'd want to completely blow that up, and the past year of offensive scheme adaptation to a more pass-oriented personnel package , just to start over with a guy with no Florida ties and a reputation for running one of the games' most storied programs into the ground.
since becoming a MOD, man you are really ' on point '....bingo with the above post...I can see Rich Rod blowing into Gainesville and running Brantley off as he needs a running QB.....Mallett won't say he was blackballed at Ann Arbor by RICH ROD, but the coach put the word out that it was his offense or the highway....well Ryan could read those tea leaves as easily as he read the Troy defense
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MuskogeeHogFan

December 27, 2009, 09:04:49 am #11
Quote from: Iwastherein1969 on December 27, 2009, 08:34:22 am
since becoming a MOD, man you are really ' on point '....bingo with the above post...I can see Rich Rod blowing into Gainesville and running Brantley off as he needs a running QB.....Mallett won't say he was blackballed at Ann Arbor by RICH ROD, but the coach put the word out that it was his offense or the highway....well Ryan could read those tea leaves as easily as he read the Troy defense

Can't see RR at Florida anymore than I could see Carroll bailing out at USC for Florida. Difference there is, Florida wouldn't want RR and Carroll wouldn't want Florida and the SEC.

I could see Stoops going back to Florida and that to me, is probably the only other job he would ever want aside from the OU job. And, it is a good time for Stoops to leave purely from a football standpoint and aside from family factors that might play into the decision.

From a football standpoint they seem to have diminished confidence in the heir to Bradford(Landry Jones). So much so that they are chasing a highly ranked and very mobile JC QB. They will need him with the weak O-Line that they have returning. OU's receivers substantially underperformed this year and their RB's didn't set the world on fire this year either.

On top of that, they are likely to lose half their starting defense and some of their two-deep to either graduation or the NFL. If Stoops were going to jump ship, this would appear to be an awfully good time.

Question is, would Stoops want to trade being in the Big 12 where the average competition is considerably less than in the SEC? Perhaps. He has functioned in the pressure packed SEC before.

I could see him spending 5-10 years at Florida as the HC and then hanging it up.

And before the "domino talk" begins, no, I couldn't see BP going to OU and if I were him, if I were going to go there, it wouldn't be at this point in time.
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Porkem

December 27, 2009, 09:20:57 am #12
Now would be a good time for Stoops to leave...no doubt about it.
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Tejano Jawg

December 27, 2009, 10:44:11 am #13
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on December 27, 2009, 09:04:49 am
Can't see RR at Florida anymore than I could see Carroll bailing out at USC for Florida. Difference there is, Florida wouldn't want RR and Carroll wouldn't want Florida and the SEC.

Question is, would Stoops want to trade being in the Big 12 where the average competition is considerably less than in the SEC? Perhaps. He has functioned in the pressure packed SEC before.


Good points. The 'comfy' jobs many good coaches have because of their weaker conferences will weed out some. (Even though that coach will happen to inherit the best team in the SEC East.) That's why I can't imagine people like Pete Carroll being interested.

I think they'll do what they did last time--find someone (in a smaller conf) who really wants to step up. That's where Peterson and Patterson make sense.
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ErieHog

December 27, 2009, 12:31:39 pm #14
Quote from: Tejano Jawg on December 27, 2009, 10:44:11 am
Good points. The 'comfy' jobs many good coaches have because of their weaker conferences will weed out some. (Even though that coach will happen to inherit the best team in the SEC East.) That's why I can't imagine people like Pete Carroll being interested.

I think they'll do what they did last time--find someone (in a smaller conf) who really wants to step up. That's where Peterson and Patterson make sense.

Why would Pete beg off of playing the SEC?  It's not like he's struggled against SEC tams, at all.   The man's motto for his program is 'competition makes you better';   it fits perfectly to the Carroll mindset-- and even Carroll can see the dark days ahead for SC football, when the litigation settles.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Oklahawg

December 27, 2009, 12:49:42 pm #15
Mullen gets the FL job and Gus gets the MS State job.

That would keep hogville jumping!

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MuskogeeHogFan

December 27, 2009, 12:50:30 pm #16
Quote from: ErieHog on December 27, 2009, 12:31:39 pm
Why would Pete beg off of playing the SEC?  It's not like he's struggled against SEC tams, at all.   The man's motto for his program is 'competition makes you better';   it fits perfectly to the Carroll mindset-- and even Carroll can see the dark days ahead for SC football, when the litigation settles.

Yeah, he is 4-0 vs. the SEC since he took over at USC with two games vs. Arkansas and two vs. Auburn. It's not like he has had to play in this conference week-in and week-out, year after year. He is a good HC but I think he would have less stellar results if he were located in the SEC and had to recruit against other SEC teams and then play them in conference every year. This isn't the Pac 10.
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ErieHog

December 27, 2009, 01:10:26 pm #17
Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on December 27, 2009, 12:50:30 pm
Yeah, he is 4-0 vs. the SEC since he took over at USC with two games vs. Arkansas and two vs. Auburn. It's not like he has had to play in this conference week-in and week-out, year after year. He is a good HC but I think he would have less stellar results if he were located in the SEC and had to recruit against other SEC teams and then play them in conference every year. This isn't the Pac 10.

What you think is one thing;  what a guy with the attitude and approach of Pete Carroll thinks, however, is quite another.   He's not gotten to the position he is in by thinking,  'Man, I'll just hang out and beat all of my ex-assistants here on the coast.'

He's never, ever shied away from any kind of competition.  When other programs refuse to schedule home-and-homes with the other major conferences, SC is there, playing in the Horseshoe or on the Plains.   USC doesn't shy away from mid-major programs on the rise, either.





No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

MuskogeeHogFan

December 27, 2009, 01:35:24 pm #18
Quote from: ErieHog on December 27, 2009, 01:10:26 pm
What you think is one thing;  what a guy with the attitude and approach of Pete Carroll thinks, however, is quite another.   He's not gotten to the position he is in by thinking,  'Man, I'll just hang out and beat all of my ex-assistants here on the coast.'

He's never, ever shied away from any kind of competition.  When other programs refuse to schedule home-and-homes with the other major conferences, SC is there, playing in the Horseshoe or on the Plains.   USC doesn't shy away from mid-major programs on the rise, either.


Yes and what you think is another thing and what do the two add up to? Zip. It's just opinions and neither of ours, in regard to this subject, are going to change the world.

Carroll is a great coach. I would never deny that. But, in my opinion, he would not have had the success he has experienced if he had to try to achieve that over the same period of time in the SEC.

As we agreed he has played an SEC team 4 times in 10 years and won all four.
No bowl games vs. the SEC.

He has played the Big Ten three times in OOC match-ups and won all three.
He is also 5-0 vs. the Big Ten in Bowl Games.

The WAC eight times in OOC regular season play and won all eight.
0-1 vs. the WAC in bowls.

The MWC four times in OOC regular season play and won all four.
0-1 vs. the MWC in bowls.

The ACC three times in OOC regular season play and is 2-1.
1-0 vs. the ACC as of last night and that was by far not a dominating win.

The Big 12 six times in OOC regular season play and is 4-2.
1-1 vs. the Big 12 in bowl games.

So as long as he is playing games in the regular season or playing the Big Ten in Bowl Games, he is absolutely golden.

Good coach, perfect situation at USC, owns the California recruiting area. Who knows, maybe he could replicate the So Cal lifestyle in Gainesville.
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12247

December 27, 2009, 02:45:53 pm #19
Carroll isn't going anywhere as long as #7 is his QB at USC.  He loves Barkley.  That love cost him the conference championship this year and unless the kid gets much better, it will do the same next year.  I've never seen a good HC fall so much for one freshman player and it ruined the team for this past season.  I believe he had 2 better QBs on the bench this past year.  Barkley will likely become ALL THAT eventually, but he was an embarassment this past year.
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