Buckle your seatbelts guys/gals

[Tomhog™]

How about **** players?

yes

[Oklahawg]

yes

Lanny, is that you?

[TX HOG]

yes

Jones, Smith

[Oklahawg]

Jones, Smith

Others as well.

[TX HOG]

Others as well.

Barnett, Akuna

[athunt]

Anybody wanna help me out with **** players?

I think I missed that one

[Tomhog™]

Spond
Byran Jones
DJ Jones
Barnett
Smith
Akuna

Just to name a few.  We will finish strong again.  Petrino has shown the ability to close late.

[OKhogfan1959]

Spond
Byran Jones
DJ Jones
Barnett
Smith
Akuna

Just to name a few.  We will finish strong again.  Petrino has shown the ability to close late.

There will be other names pop up..But I would take your list in a heartbeat and be very happy.

[cardinalandwhite]

Spond
Byran Jones
DJ Jones
Barnett
Smith
Akuna

Just to name a few.  We will finish strong again.  Petrino has shown the ability to close late.

How do we look on Lucas?

[Ben Steiger]

From what I understand, we're out of the picture, but right now, we need defense, defense, defense.

[PorkSoda]

How do we look on Lucas?

We have McGee doing an in-home visit, so cross your fingers

[cardinalandwhite]

We have McGee doing an in-home visit, so cross your fingers

You have to like that.

[TX HOG]

You have to like that.

i agree. 

[Ben Steiger]

Anyone know anything about the Ohio State commit and the Nebraska decommit? I can't remember names, but I am curious if anyone has an update.

[LTCHawg]

Monday-Wednesday

nm

[HawgPilot]

 

[3kgthog]

I think we can take off our seatbelts now and ease from the hammer lane to the carpool lane. Nice call on the fast and furious finish.

[hawgnosticator]

Uhh...It's December. We are 2 months from signing day.

[Music City Hog]

The prediction was Monday-Wednesday.  Wednesday is coming to an end and since the prediction, Langley, Smith, Akuna, Foi Foi, and the other Hawaiian kids are now off the table.

[Triple T]

Oh well.

[WMHawgfan]

glad i buckled up. The excitement of seeing all these key recruits commit elsewhere is making me want to slam into a bridge embankment.

[coach, my back hurts]

glad i buckled up. The excitement of seeing all these key recruits commit elsewhere is making me want to slam into a bridge embankment.

LOL.  Can i take that ride with you? 

Maybe the original poster was refering to the Texas Motor Speedway Go-Cart racetrack they have in Branson, MO.  I hear those things go about 30mph.  Better buckle up!

[Oklahawg]

The assumption is the players all bailed on UA. Not sure, but on some of these it is UA saying they don't have room.

[Music City Hog]

The assumption is the players all bailed on UA. Not sure, but on some of these it is UA saying they don't have room.

Dont we bail on every player that doesnt come here?

[coach, my back hurts]

The assumption is the players all bailed on UA. Not sure, but on some of these it is UA saying they don't have room.

What DA coach told Scott Smith to go elsewhere?  You may know more than me, or know more ppl than me, which is probably true anyways, but i wouldnt take a coaches word, or a recruiting experts word, over the toilet paper i wipe my butt with.  Coaches lie and use coach speak all the time.  And to cover their a$$es on this fine recruiting class they tell these "experts" that we dont have room.  Room for what?  2 and 3* DT's that are 30-40 lbs underweight?

I have NO problem at all with the recruits that BP is/will bring in on offense.  Because the guy can frickin coach.  We dont have a coach on the D side of the ball that would qualify to be an equipment manager for Bama or Texas.  Major concern on that side.

[MojaveJoe]

Yeah. Smith turned us down flat. He had an offer.

[El Puerco]

Okay.....I'm all buckled in.

[Hog Milanese]

Uhh...It's December. We are 2 months from signing day.

So we're going to magically change the minds of recruits we haven't spoken to all year at the last minute? (2 months in recruiting is "last minute")

[cpohog]

I got buckled in, turned the key in the ignition and realized I didn't put any gas in the tank. 

[The real Hogules]

You are about to see a finish as fast and as hard as you would see at Texas Motor Speedway.

I believe the proper racing terminology that best describes the debacle of a recruiting weekend we just experienced is a "Crash and Burn".....................

[The real Hogules]

The assumption is the players all bailed on UA. Not sure, but on some of these it is UA saying they don't have room.

Please enlighten us as to which players, besides Langley that the UofA chose to pass on??? 

Inquiring minds want to know!

[porkinsons disease]

Spond
Byran Jones
DJ Jones
Barnett
Smith
Akuna

Just to name a few.  We will finish strong again.  Petrino has shown the ability to close late.

+1.It's December and everyone act's like it's "life or death" with every recruit. We will be fine.

[kclvr]

+1.It's December and everyone act's like it's "life or death" with every recruit. We will be fine.

In case you haven't noticed the big time prospects we had a chance at are all going elsewhere.  We are going to be left with projects for the most part. Spin it however you want but this is reality. In the end B Jones will not be a Hog, book it.

[athunt]

In case you haven't noticed the big time prospects we had a chance at are all going elsewhere.  We are going to be left with projects for the most part. Spin it however you want but this is reality. In the end B Jones will not be a Hog, book it.

Would these kids have even been on campus with the other staff? No

The fact that these kids are even giving us a look, with a 7-5 record, is reason to be excited.

[kclvr]

OK but this want build a championship team.  Most take their 5 visits by the way.

[Erockster20]

Losing Smith is a disappointment no matter how you look at it.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

In case you haven't noticed the big time prospects we had a chance at are all going elsewhere.  We are going to be left with projects for the most part. Spin it however you want but this is reality. In the end B Jones will not be a Hog, book it.

I have a sneaking suspicion you're right about Jones.  It would be a travesty if we didn't reel in the most important in-state recruit this year, especially if we couldn't replace him with a Barnett or a Humphrey...which we won't. 

LSU is not going to offer him, which he knows, and yet we still haven't landed him.  Even with LSU out of the picture, I seriously don't get the feeling UA is really high on HIS list. 

[Oklahawg]

Losing Smith is a disappointment no matter how you look at it.

For fans, Smith was an obvious feather in our cap. None of us know the coaching staff's wish list priorities - was Smith the #1 DE? Bold assumption for us as fans.

[Oklahawg]

Please enlighten us as to which players, besides Langley that the UofA chose to pass on??? 

Inquiring minds want to know!

Damian Payne, CB from Houston, committed to Utah, was a player I wanted badly. I believe we need another CB in this class. Apparently, my recruiting acumen is not respected by the UA staff, as they clearly didn't agree. Now, I have no idea was CB is left on the wish list, or if one is left, but the one I targeted left UA without a commitable offer.

[Oklahawg]

What DA coach told Scott Smith to go elsewhere?  You may know more than me, or know more ppl than me, which is probably true anyways, but i wouldnt take a coaches word, or a recruiting experts word, over the toilet paper i wipe my butt with.  Coaches lie and use coach speak all the time.  And to cover their a$$es on this fine recruiting class they tell these "experts" that we dont have room.  Room for what?  2 and 3* DT's that are 30-40 lbs underweight?

I have NO problem at all with the recruits that BP is/will bring in on offense.  Because the guy can frickin coach.  We dont have a coach on the D side of the ball that would qualify to be an equipment manager for Bama or Texas.  Major concern on that side.

Don't sell your horse to the glue factory because it lost its first race.

1. I am not privy to what the coaching staff is thinking, to what the wish list looks like. I am only able to take the commits, the recruits, the comments by both, and try to be halfway intelligent about it.
2. I will not sell my soul that Smith didn't have a commitable offer to UA.
3. I am NOT convinced he was Petrino's #1 DE. He was for fans. He is valuable as a mid-term enrollee.

Let me reinforce something that might not be a factor, but could: UA has always struggled with academic transcripts of JUCO transfers. Ticklish deal.

To suggest that Petrino recruits well on offense, and puts together a good offensive coaching staff, but can't/doesn't recruit on defense, and doesn't value putting together a good defensive coaching staff...well, that's lunacy. I don't for one minute think that Petrino is as ungifted at defensive recruiting as he is gifted at offensive recruiting. Ditto, when considering assembling a staff.

This thread is going to hell in a hand-basket because too many posters do not really understand the dynamics at play.

[Kenny Hawgins]

the staff has the class about sewn up and probably has a few commits we don't know about.  they're just swinging for the fences on the last few slots. 

ya'll go ahead and jump off a ledge if you want.  i'll at least give petrino the benefit of the doubt and wait until signing day before i start freaking out.  i'd say petrino has at least earned that much.

[island hog]

give me some details, as best you can about these dynamics.  I haven't read or heard any comments from Smith on why he chose TT but would love to hear why?  Also, I agree that it's still early but we have such high hopes so soon that maybe we fans have gotten ahead of ourselves.  HOWEVER...I am disappointed in our dline recruiting this year and last.  To see the players we signed that didn't make it for whatever reason, to see others whom we offered say no while nearly every other SEC team is getting dline commitments without effort it seems.  I'm not worried about the numbers as much as I am the perception that our defensive recruiting is below par...in your opinion, is there an issue?  Is it related to the def staff?  You appear to be very knowledgable or closer to the action than most...what are you true thoughts?

[Oklahawg]

the staff has the class about sewn up and probably has a few commits we don't know about.  they're just swinging for the fences on the last few slots. 

ya'll go ahead and jump off a ledge if you want.  i'll at least give petrino the benefit of the doubt and wait until signing day before i start freaking out.  i'd say petrino has at least earned that much.

A voice of reason. I think you are much closer to the truth than any of us understand.

I think we'll be surprised when we hear that so-and-so (maybe a couple of 'em) were silent commits for a while.

[jgphillips3]

Times like these where people are freaking out almost make me long for the days that recruits only got mentioned the day after they signed in a small column in the paper. Sure it doesn't look great right now, but this isn't signing day and we have all seen how sometimes recruiting classes come on in a hurry just before and on signing day. I think it is okay to voice some concern here or there, but we should wait until the ink dries to go off the deep end.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

A voice of reason. I think you are much closer to the truth than any of us understand.

I think we'll be surprised when we hear that so-and-so (maybe a couple of 'em) were silent commits for a while.

Actually, OH, I've always considered your voice one of reason, but again, is this just some hunch because we so desperately want it to be the case, or do we "know" something?  Because I can't remember a time when the whole "silent commit" crap actually came to fruition, and we were all so pleasantly surprised on NSD.  Historically, this approach followed the whole "...but we're filling our needs" line of thinking...as if collecting talent and filling needs were mutually exclusive.

I'm not a sky is falling guy, but if we keep the 15 we already have, and we only have room for 5 more max, then we'd better finish up with guys like Lucas, Coleman, Jones, and Humphrey.  That would legitimize this class.  And no, I'm not looking at stars.  I'm looking at the offers.  Our current commits, as a whole, lack in both categories.

[Dances With Hogs]

I can't believe we are losing recruits after they have been to the Catfish Hole.

[Hog Milanese]

I can't believe we are losing recruits after they have been to the Catfish Hole.

lol

[zark]

give me some details, as best you can about these dynamics

The average fan looks at four things in a recruit.  Size, speed, stats and Stars.

Those four things don't amount to much if the Off/Def systems within your program require character, brains, attention span, willingness to work, etc.

Just let that soak in your head and then ask yourself if you really think anyone could really answer your question.

All you need to know is dynamics exist.  Recruiting is fluid and we have until Feb. for the dirt to settle or the cream to rise.

I believe our staff to be cream.   



 

[Choctaw Hog]

the staff has the class about sewn up and probably has a few commits we don't know about.  they're just swinging for the fences on the last few slots. 

ya'll go ahead and jump off a ledge if you want.  i'll at least give petrino the benefit of the doubt and wait until signing day before i start freaking out.  i'd say petrino has at least earned that much.

This.

[rebelfan1010]

I have a sneaking suspicion you're right about Jones.  It would be a travesty if we didn't reel in the most important in-state recruit this year, especially if we couldn't replace him with a Barnett or a Humphrey...which we won't. 

LSU is not going to offer him, which he knows, and yet we still haven't landed him.  Even with LSU out of the picture, I seriously don't get the feeling UA is really high on HIS list.

Ark. might be waiting on his grades.  I have no idea, but I've heard he is a sign and place canidate.  I would love to get him either way.  Seems like a good DT to me.