Jacorey Williams?

[HogsBalls]

Watching Midd. TennRSee play Mich. St and haven't seen him in the game or on the bench. He get kicked off?

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Sitting out this year due to transfer.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Sitting out this year due to transfer.

Probably to his benefit.
He needs some more maturing and honing.

[ricepig]

Probably to his benefit.
He needs some more maturing and honing.

Hmm....you never know when a teammate needs a shoe in the tournament.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Hmm....you never know when a teammate needs a shoe in the tournament.

Or some unmarked benjamins...

[The_Iceman]

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

He will play next year. They are very excited about him

[Dr. Starcs]

They better be ready to hit the offensive glass.

[The_Iceman]

Could have used a little of this at the 4 this season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj0cb_sO_W0

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Could have used a little of this at the 4 this season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj0cb_sO_W0

The problem was, for every one of those there were 6 turnovers, 4 silly fouls, a technical, a thrown shoe, an arrest or two, and the ever-possible scenario of him shanking somebody on the court when he got those crazy eyes going.

[yraciv]

The problem was, for every one of those there were 6 turnovers, 4 silly fouls, a technical, a thrown shoe, an arrest or two, and the ever-possible scenario of him shanking somebody on the court when he got those crazy eyes going.

Yes he drove me crazy at times, but he was worlds better than Keaton Miles this year. We would have been much better with him!

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Yes he drove me crazy at times, but he was worlds better than Keaton Miles this year. We would have been much better with him!

That leads to an interesting question.  Do you want a guy who plays out of control and fills the stat sheet with both good and bad (usually more bad)?  Or a guy who takes up space and does nothing else?

Not the best of choices to have.

[SpaCityHawg]

That leads to an interesting question.  Do you want a guy who plays out of control and fills the stat sheet with both good and bad (usually more bad)?  Or a guy who takes up space and does nothing else?

Not the best of choices to have.

I take option A, I think.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

That leads to an interesting question.  Do you want a guy who plays out of control and fills the stat sheet with both good and bad (usually more bad)?  Or a guy who takes up space and does nothing else?

Not the best of choices to have.

Williams > Miles

Williams was actually very good at pressing defense. Half court not so much

[ricepig]

Williams > Miles

Williams was actually very good at pressing defense. Half court not so much

Sort of like the rest of our team, we are really bad in straight up man.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Sort of like the rest of our team, we are really bad in straight up man.

Well, I can't even think of a someone I would consider a good press defender one the team now. If it comes to stopping the other team we aren't good at it lol

[bvillepig]

Jacorey had his moments both good and bad but he improved a lot last year and we could have used him this year.

[maxhog5]

Jacorey had his moments both good and bad but he improved a lot last year and we could have used him this year.

Not really and I doubt it.  When it comes to basketball smarts, Jacorey Williams is the dumbest basketball player I've ever seen.

[ErieHog]

Not really and I doubt it.  When it comes to basketball smarts, Jacorey Williams is the dumbest basketball player I've ever seen.

If he hadn't had a case of strained cerebellum, he would have been a vital piece to a more successful team this year.   Instead, he nearly blew up our squad and damaged his own future.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

If he hadn't had a case of strained cerebellum, he would have been a vital piece to a more successful team this year.   Instead, he nearly blew up our squad and damaged his own future.

Completely agree with this.

[hogman99]

That leads to an interesting question.  Do you want a guy who plays out of control and fills the stat sheet with both good and bad (usually more bad)?  Or a guy who takes up space and does nothing else?

Not the best of choices to have.

I'll take neither

[whosiskid]

a case of strained cerebellum

Good one

[onebadrubi]

The problem was, for every one of those there were 6 turnovers, 4 silly fouls, a technical, a thrown shoe, an arrest or two, and the ever-possible scenario of him shanking somebody on the court when he got those crazy eyes going.

Duraham picked up for Williams with the 6 turnovers and a silly foul here and there

[RacinRazorback]

As lackluster as he was, we would've been better with him than Miles. We basically got nothing constructive out of him all year.

[lefty08]

Duraham picked up for Williams with the 6 turnovers and a silly foul here and there

It's Durham, and you really should watch the games

[TomBigBeeHog]

It's Durham, and you really should watch the games

He really must not watch if he thinks Durham was a turnover machine.

[big dread hog]

http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/college/mtsu/all-charged-up/2015/10/29/jacorey-williams-shuts-down-dunk-contest/74850002/

would be a big man presence for Kermit the frogface.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Duraham picked up for Williams with the 6 turnovers and a silly foul here and there

Well, Durham did have one of the better assist to turnover ratios in the conference.  Plus, handling the ball was his job; Jacory only saw the ball when it was passed to him and when he did he treated the ball like it was covered with ebola.

[Blutoblutarsky]

Not really and I doubt it.  When it comes to basketball smarts, Jacorey Williams is the dumbest basketball player I've ever seen.

My last hogville vacation was for asking a question. I would assume a ban is in place for calling a student athlete dumb. Former or present.

[bvillepig]

I hope he has his life straightened out and has found his place.  Good luck to him.
It looks like he has found a home. 

[yraciv]

Revisionist history is kind of funny.  Jacorey didn't turn the ball over all that much.  Actually he was 4th on the team in turnover percentage, far behind Madden. Granted, he was also our least efficient player.

http://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/conferences/Southeastern-Conference/8/Arkansas/254/stats/2015/Advanced_Stats/Qualified/All/Season/All/tov_pct/desc/1/

[Dr. Starcs]

I don't remember the turnovers as much as the excessive shot taking. Mainly every time he touched the ball.

[HawgAdvocate]

Revisionist history is kind of funny.  Jacorey didn't turn the ball over all that much.  Actually he was 4th on the team in turnover percentage, far behind Madden. Granted, he was also our least efficient player.

I don't remember the turnovers as much as the excessive shot taking. Mainly every time he touched the ball.

Taking bad shots is practically a turnover, especially when your team prefers transition to crashing the boards.

[Dr. Starcs]

But not statistically.

But I see your point.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

He was awful with the basketball.  Maybe he makes a bad pass that goes off a teammate's hands and the TO is given to the teammate.  Or vice versa.  All I know is that every time the ball went to him, I cringed and almost always my cringe was justified.  That's not revisionist history.  That's just the way it was.

[yraciv]

I don't remember the turnovers as much as the excessive shot taking. Mainly every time he touched the ball.

This is what I remember. He shot the ball too quickly to make many turnovers.

[jry04]

The problem was, for every one of those there were 6 turnovers, 4 silly fouls, a technical, a thrown shoe, an arrest or two, and the ever-possible scenario of him shanking somebody on the court when he got those crazy eyes going.

Not true, but people hated him so much it doesn't surprise me to hear someone say this. Far more good happened when he was on the court than bad, but the bad was really bad.

As for the arrests, he was actually only arrested 1 time and it was for less than Beard and Thomas. Mike knew about him shoving his girlfriend and hitting the bouncer weeks before the paper reported it. He wasn't arrested for it, but Mike thought it was fine until everyone else found out about it.

[WorfHog]

He was great, I loved the time he sucker punched the guy in the club and got kicked off the team.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Not true, but people hated him so much it doesn't surprise me to hear someone say this. Far more good happened when he was on the court than bad, but the bad was really bad.

As for the arrests, he was actually only arrested 1 time and it was for less than Beard and Thomas. Mike knew about him shoving his girlfriend and hitting the bouncer weeks before the paper reported it. He wasn't arrested for it, but Mike thought it was fine until everyone else found out about it.

Let's be clear; no Razorback fan should ever "hate" any player that dons the red and white.  I pull for them all to do well, and I suspect 99% of those on this board do as well.  Jacorey played hard; played with intensity.  But it is hard for anyone to argue that he wasn't out of control much of the time he was on the court.  As I said in an earlier post, I got nervous whenever he had the ball.  Not because I wanted to; it was just the natural reaction from watching him for two years. 

Had he kept his nose clean, he would still be a Hog, and I join with those who hope he uses this second chance to get everything together.  But if he hadn't done some stupid things, he'd still be a Hog.

[HawgAdvocate]

Mike knew about him shoving his girlfriend and hitting the bouncer weeks before the paper reported it. He wasn't arrested for it, but Mike thought it was fine until everyone else found out about it.

That's an unexpected and unflattering admission to make. Though, it's a good thing for Coach A that 'everyone else' didn't find out about Qualls.

[Justifiable Hogicide]

Mike knew about him shoving his girlfriend and hitting the bouncer weeks before the paper reported it. He wasn't arrested for it, but Mike thought it was fine until everyone else found out about it.

#Common

[jry04]

That's an unexpected and unflattering admission to make. Though, it's a good thing for Coach A that 'everyone else' didn't find out about Qualls.

I don't know anything about Qualls' situation. I do know some of the coaching staff met with that bouncer long before any reporter found out about what happened with Williams.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

That's an unexpected and unflattering admission to make. Though, it's a good thing for Coach A that 'everyone else' didn't find out about Qualls.

Are you talking about his getting caught with weed or something not well known?

[HawgAdvocate]

Are you talking about his getting caught with weed or something not well known?

Think about Ike Turner's transgressions, and you'll get the idea.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Think about Ike Turner's transgressions, and you'll get the idea.

Wow.
If true, I'm glad he's gone.
With the Fayetteville police being so arrest happy (or so it seems), how did this not get more light?

[HawgAdvocate]

Wow.
If true, I'm glad he's gone.
With the Fayetteville police being so arrest happy (or so it seems), how did this not get more light?

The police have to be alerted to an incident before for an arrest can take place. He got suspended for it (http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=560925.msg8789545#msg8789545). Qualls was a wildcard. He tried to take on assistant coaches and the strength/conditioning coaches, at different times. Jacorey's issues were similar in that it was best to keep all of it in-house, if/when possible.

[Sivad]

Think about Ike Turner's transgressions, and you'll get the idea.

What's Love Got To Do With It?

[Jackrabbit Hog]

What's Love Got To Do With It?

I don't know, but when it comes to our basketball team, We DO Need Another Hero.