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Rock City Razorback

Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/

razorbackfaninar

He isn't spending any time in jail.

 

razorbackfaninar

It's an 89 day suspended sentence with credit for one day served.

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Quote from: razorbackfaninar on February 22, 2018, 08:58:52 am
It's an 89 day suspended sentence with credit for one day served.

Yeah, I mean if you want to read the entire sentence...
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Easier to post sensationalism than actually comprehend what you read, I guess.

Also, the judge's name was William Storey...I bet someone somewhere on this board is concocting some wild theories.

Arazorbackguy1

Why not plead not guilty?  Hassle and trial and all that Jazz?  I'm not up on the law or trial law, but you rarely see guilty pleas. 
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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/

You might consider reading an article that you link. Dumb.
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Karma

Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:53 am
Why not plead not guilty?  Hassle and trial and all that Jazz?  I'm not up on the law or trial law, but you rarely see guilty pleas. 
He did plead not guilty and plea and arraignment, but then worked out the standard deal. The reason to do that is because the standard deal is 89 days time suspended. If you take it to trial and are convicted, the Judge could chose to give him 89 more days to serve.

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Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on February 22, 2018, 09:13:33 am
Easier to post sensationalism than actually comprehend what you read, I guess.

Also, the judge's name was William Storey...I bet someone somewhere on this board is concocting some wild theories.
I thought about that as soon as I read it lol
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Nafunu32

I don't know many people who spend too much time on a dwi #1. Not like this is special treatment.

311Hog

Quote from: Nafunu32 on February 22, 2018, 09:43:29 am
I don't know many people who spend too much time on a dwi #1. Not like this is special treatment.

correct the first one is just costly in terms of fine and insurance damage.  at least in AR, if he gets another one he will really feel it.

Nafunu32

It means that he's sentenced to serve 90 days, but they will "suspend" the 89. If he's good and stays out of trouble, he will never have to do them. It's basically a way around the minimum sentencing laws. Like a suspended DL, it requires time in jail if caught driving. People usually get that time "suspended" too.

k.c.hawg

Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 09:54:07 am
The article states that he was 'sentenced to 90 days in jail, with 89 days suspended and credit given for one day served.' So that's meaning that he's getting the 89 days of suspension instead of the 90 days in jail? It's worded as though he is spending time in jail and then the suspension is in addition to that, not that the suspension is taking place of the sentenced time actually in jail. Forgive me for not being a lawyer...

was sentenced by Judge William Storey to 90 days in jail, with 89 days suspended and credit given for one day served.

C'mon man. 89 + 1 = 90
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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/

miss the part about 89 days suspended and credit for 1 served?
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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 09:54:07 am
The article states that he was 'sentenced to 90 days in jail, with 89 days suspended and credit given for one day served.' So that's meaning that he's getting the 89 days of suspension instead of the 90 days in jail? It's worded as though he is spending time in jail and then the suspension is in addition to that, not that the suspension is taking place of the sentenced time actually in jail. Forgive me for not being a lawyer...

I don't think you have to be a lawyer to get this ....

a jail term with a certain number of days suspended is not the say as getting a suspension of a certain number of days.

But I'm going to be nice and think you're just pulling all of our legs here and you got it the first time.
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Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:53 am
Why not plead not guilty?  Hassle and trial and all that Jazz?  I'm not up on the law or trial law, but you rarely see guilty pleas. 

Actually in the criminal forum guilty plea is by far the most common outcome.
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TexasRazorback

Wow, I dont know how anyone who read the article linked would think he is spending one night in jail.

arkansasbred

Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:53 am
Why not plead not guilty?  Hassle and trial and all that Jazz?  I'm not up on the law or trial law, but you rarely see guilty pleas.
Actually it's the opposite. A vast majority of traffic or criminal offenses end up with a guilty plea. At least in the court systems that I am in regularly.

twistitup

He will be so solid when he gets out CCM will want to move him to TE...
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War Boar

I'm surprised no one else mentioned the fact that he was pulled over on the corner of Wedington and STEAMBOAT Drive. Coincidence or... ::)

Karma

Quote from: arkansasbred on February 22, 2018, 11:31:40 am
Actually it's the opposite. A vast majority of traffic or criminal offenses end up with a guilty plea. At least in the court systems that I am in regularly.
You must be a bad driver.;)

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Quote from: Karma on February 22, 2018, 09:21:08 am
He did plead not guilty and plea and arraignment, but then worked out the standard deal. The reason to do that is because the standard deal is 89 days time suspended. If you take it to trial and are convicted, the Judge could chose to give him 89 more days to serve.

He could have gotten anywhere from one day to one year from the Judge (or a Jury).
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Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:53 am
Why not plead not guilty?  Hassle and trial and all that Jazz?  I'm not up on the law or trial law, but you rarely see guilty pleas. 

Guilty pleas happen in 95+% of cases, if not higher.
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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 09:54:07 am
The article states that he was 'sentenced to 90 days in jail, with 89 days suspended and credit given for one day served.' So that's meaning that he's getting the 89 days of suspension instead of the 90 days in jail? It's worded as though he is spending time in jail and then the suspension is in addition to that, not that the suspension is taking place of the sentenced time actually in jail. Forgive me for not being a lawyer...

If you were a lawyer, that's what you might have a need for forgiveness of.. Just kidding. Lawyers are like those in any other profession, good, bad and ugly.

And you don't have to be a lawyer to understand that a suspended sentence is not served. Anyone who's ever seen any lawyer show on TV should know that..
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Quote from: Ark13 on February 22, 2018, 12:08:17 pm
I'm surprised no one else mentioned the fact that he was pulled over on the corner of Wedington and STEAMBOAT Drive. Coincidence or... ::)

So Dan Enos was in on the conspiracy? I believe that's who hung the Steamboat moniker on Kelley.. That is a funny coincidence.

Jim Harbaugh might buy into any Enos conspiracy theories, seems like he was pretty POed when Enos went to 'Bama..
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Quote from: twistitup on February 22, 2018, 11:58:05 am
He will be so solid when he gets out CCM will want to move him to TE...

This. He will toughen up in The Yard or perish. This could be a good thing.

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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/

Nailed it. Right now I've got Vinny Gambini and John Gibbons on retainer, but I'm thinking I may switch over to you if you've got the capacity to handle cases.

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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/

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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/

I don't think he has to serve time, but he won't be on the team in a few weeks. 

He's done here.
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Quote from: rkjones on February 22, 2018, 03:05:13 pm
What makes you say that?

I'm not going to bash a player or former player here, but it's obvious there's other "issues" involved.
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Quote from: hogcards on February 22, 2018, 03:08:15 pm
I'm not going to bash a player or former player here, but it's obvious there's other "issues" involved.

Providing a reason for a player being dismissed from the team isn't bashing. However, if you are just spreading misinformation then you may want to take it elsewhere.

RME

Quote from: hogcards on February 22, 2018, 03:08:15 pm
I'm not going to bash a player or former player here, but it's obvious there's other "issues" involved.

Do you really need attention this badly? On an anonymous message board? Man.

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on February 22, 2018, 09:14:53 am
Why not plead not guilty?  Hassle and trial and all that Jazz?  I'm not up on the law or trial law, but you rarely see guilty pleas. 

Actually you see a lot of guilty pleas after they have been given a plea bargain. 
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870hogfan

Quote from: twistitup on February 22, 2018, 11:58:05 am
He will be so solid when he gets out CCM will want to move him to TE...


Nah, he will be our starting QB this year...

ricepig

Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on February 22, 2018, 04:00:28 pm
Do you really need attention this badly? On an anonymous message board? Man.

He definitely has a problem, but his batting average is about .050, so there's an excellent chance that Cole is the starter.

Hawgphat

I believe that the following is a legitimate question - - which may be virtually impossible, at this point in time, to intuitively answer with any appreciable degree of confidence; - - but I'll throw it out here anyway, and invite knowledgeable theorists to expound their presentiments.

IF - - I say IF - - Coach Morris is proven to be an "old school" strict disciplinarian who takes a very dim view of such law infraction peccadilloes, how will HE ultimately adjudge the subsequent "permanent episode fallout" to be in deciding upon the final QB pecking order and the viability of Kelley's candidacy for impending contention for at least a shot at attaining starting status in the head-to-head scrimmaging leading up to next fall?  Will this DUI likely deal a heavy blow to Kelley's prospects to remain on the team, - - let alone attain "number one" status?

What say you?

PorkRinds

Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 08:55:28 am
Spending 90 days in the slammer. Not sure how that affects spring ball? Either way, that's tough and not good.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/feb/21/kelley-pleads-guilty-dwi/



90 day's with with 89 suspended means he won't be spend a day in jail.

twistitup

Quote from: 870hogfan on February 22, 2018, 05:18:09 pm

Nah, he will be our starting QB this year...

I was just playing around....dudes not spending any time in the slammer
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870hogfan

Quote from: twistitup on February 22, 2018, 06:34:36 pm
I was just playing around....dudes not spending any time in the slammer




Haha man that went right over my head! 😂

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Quote from: PorkRinds on February 22, 2018, 06:27:22 pm


90 day's with with 89 suspended means he won't be spend a day in jail.

Shhh, this thread still has misread potential to extract.
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Prayers up for Cole.  There seems to be a troubling pattern developing. After the LSU game. Now this...I really wish this young man well. But he needs to learn from these mistakes and take action.

Corrective action.
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PorkRinds

Quote from: liljo on February 22, 2018, 08:25:06 pm
Prayers up for Cole.  There seems to be a troubling pattern developing. After the LSU game. Now this...I really wish this young man well. But he needs to learn from these mistakes and take action.

Corrective action.

What about after the LSU game?

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I didn't read anywhere in the article where it was the Fayetteville police departments fault. When this all happened there were several on here that were certain that it wasn't his own fault, he was innocent and it was a conspiracy concocted by the FPD.
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Quote from: PorkRinds on February 22, 2018, 08:37:09 pm
What about after the LSU game?

My mistake. I couldn't read the article. I now understand this isn't any new charge. Apologies all around, and I do sincerely wish this young man the best going forward. He has a lot of talent and some great opportunities ahead. 
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Quote from: Rock City Razorback on February 22, 2018, 09:54:07 am
The article states that he was 'sentenced to 90 days in jail, with 89 days suspended and credit given for one day served.' So that's meaning that he's getting the 89 days of suspension instead of the 90 days in jail? It's worded as though he is spending time in jail and then the suspension is in addition to that, not that the suspension is taking place of the sentenced time actually in jail. Forgive me for not being a lawyer...

I'll forgive you for not being a scientific rocket too.  ;)

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Quote from: hogcards on February 22, 2018, 03:00:03 pm
I don't think he has to serve time, but he won't be on the team in a few weeks. 

He's done here.

You brought it up, so come out with it.  What is it you know?
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Quote from: kodiakisland on February 22, 2018, 10:22:18 pm
You brought it up, so come out with it.  What is it you know?

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