Lunardi still have us as a 10 seed?!!

[RedRover10]

We were a 10 seed 2 weeks ago and haven't moved up after winning 4 straight and we have an rpi of 25. Also are ranked 29th. Which would be on the better side of an 8 seed. If we lose to Kent and drop back I will lose my shot. Wps

[SemperHawg]

It has been mentioned a couple of times on here and I brought it up in another thread.  Lunardi is having the same problem that the committee will have when it comes to seeding a conference that gets more than 5 teams in.  Someone will get a lower than/higher than deserved seed so they can avoid a second round conference match up.  The committee generally doesn't want a conference match up until the sweet 16 at minimum.  The problem that Lunardi is having with the SEC bids is we have a bunch of teams in conference that are all 6,7,8,9 seed type resumes. 

Taking care of business with 2 or 3 more wins would help move us out of this middle of the road pack that all the SEC teams seem to be in right now.

[checkraiser88]

So we are a 7/8 on the one other ones but only a 10 on his?

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Lunardi is just getting lazy.  Has A&M as a 6.  We have a 2 game advantage in conference, 2 game overall record advantage.  Just beat them head to head.  We are 7-3 in our last 10 having won 5 in a row.  A&M is 6-4 having lost 2 in a row.  They have also been swept by LSU.  Before their last two losses they did beat AU and KY, so you want to give them credit for that and say at 17-10 they are equal to a 19-8 Arkansas, fine, but 4 seeds better?  Come on. 

Andy Katz does a Power 36 ranking.  Basically teams that should be a lock for the tourney and he has us at 25 which would be a 7 seed at worst.  He does not have A&M in the top 36.  Other SEC teams around us TN at 21, Mizzou at 23, and Bama at 26, KY at 28.

[razobak]

Unfortunately what's hurting us is that our "marquee" non-conference wins have lost most of their luster over the past month. Oklahoma has lost 5? 6? in a row, Minnesota has fallen off the face of the planet, UConn has struggled in the AAC, and OK State is 9th out of 10 teams in the Big XII.

We really need all of those teams to pick it up over the last couple weeks of the season to boost our profile. For example, UConn is currently 104 in the RPI, we really need them back in the top 100 so that neutral court victory goes back to Quadrant 2.

All that being said, our four remaining opponents are all Q1 games. RPI 18 Kentucky, @ 33 Alabama, 8 Auburn, and @ 23 Mizzou. Win those and we're talking 5 or 6 seed.

[parallaxpig]

Gonna be 8-10 seed unless we win 3 of last 4. Then might make 7 seed.  If by some magical run we win out including SEC tourney than probably looking at a 5 seed............

[The_Iceman]

Unfortunately what's hurting us is that our "marquee" non-conference wins have lost most of their luster over the past month. Oklahoma has lost 5? 6? in a row, Minnesota has fallen off the face of the planet, UConn has struggled in the AAC, and OK State is 9th out of 10 teams in the Big XII.

We really need all of those teams to pick it up over the last couple weeks of the season to boost our profile. For example, UConn is currently 104 in the RPI, we really need them back in the top 100 so that neutral court victory goes back to Quadrant 2.

All that being said, our four remaining opponents are all Q1 games. RPI 18 Kentucky, @ 33 Alabama, 8 Auburn, and @ 23 Mizzou. Win those and we're talking 5 or 6 seed.

According to FCJ, pointing that out makes you a hater.

[Poker_hog]

Gonna be 8-10 seed unless we win 3 of last 4. Then might make 7 seed.  If by some magical run we win out including SEC tourney than probably looking at a 5 seed............

If we win out we're probably a 3 seed.  It's not reasonable to expect that.  Win 3 out of 4 plus a game or 2 in the tournament and we're a 6 seed.  We could make a run as a 6th seed.  Really hard to make a run as an 8 seed.

[Big Nasty 34]

Why are we complaining about a 10 seed? We don't want the 8/9 game!!

[Razorback_Mack]

He missed that, there's no way as of today this team is a 10.

[Razorback_Mack]

Why are we complaining about a 10 seed? We don't want the 8/9 game!!

Because moving up as a 8/9 puts us as a 6/7. Moving up as a 10 puts us as a 8/9.

[AlmaHog2011]

Gonna be 8-10 seed unless we win 3 of last 4. Then might make 7 seed.  If by some magical run we win out including SEC tourney than probably looking at a 5 seed............

If we did all that we would deserve better than a 5 seed..Common.

[AlmaHog2011]

Why are we complaining about a 10 seed? We don't want the 8/9 game!!

I agree but IMO we deserve a lot more respect. How about a 6 seed.

[Dominicanhog]

I agree but IMO we deserve a lot more respect. How about a 6 seed.

we'll end as a 6-7 seed

[AlmaHog2011]

we'll end as a 6-7 seed

I think that is where we should land if we beat Kentucky and Auburn.

[CFB_Fanatic]

Id rather be an 11 or 12 seed than an 8 or 9.

8 or 9 seed all but guarantees a one and done in the tournament. Meanwhile, 11 and 12 seeds go on deep runs all the time.

I wouldn't mind if they lose a couple more games to get them a better draw in the tourney. We could win out and still wind up an 8. No thanks.

[rljjr]

All 4 of our remaining games are against quality teams. The worst of the teams left is Kentucky. Auburn, Bama, and Missouri will be extremely tough outs. Auburn bc they are really good and the other two because they're peaking and are at their place. We have the capability to win them all, and we are playing much better of late so let's stick our nose in the trough and feed!

[jbcarol]

[hobhog]

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Razorback_Mack]

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Not at all. Look at Palm. He has us as a 7. Ahead of Bama, Missouri, A&M. I'm just telling you this right now. If A&M, Missouri, and Bama finish with a sub .500 conference record there is zero chance they have a better seed than us.

[LivingLegends]

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

This seed is a end of season projection.  It's not a, "if the season were to end today," bracket.

[incHOGnito]

The lynchpin to all this insanity is the early season hype of A&M. It is really hard for the prognosticators egos to come off that prediction, which necessitates them being artificially higher than they should be. This forces somebody down, which has been us. I think if we can beat Auburn at home on Tuesday, it may force a shift in this thinking. Wouldn't hurt to have A&M lose another.

[raz1965]

Lunardi is great at predicting who is in an out but his seeding lines are not accurate on many occasions.

[Nolan's Boots]

We were a 10 seed 2 weeks ago and haven't moved up after winning 4 straight and we have an rpi of 25. Also are ranked 29th. Which would be on the better side of an 8 seed. If we lose to Kent and drop back I will lose my shot. Wps

Jerry Palms seedings seem more in line with how I believe the field should look.

[jfred59]

Not at all. Look at Palm. He has us as a 7. Ahead of Bama, Missouri, A&M. I'm just telling you this right now. If A&M, Missouri, and Bama finish with a sub .500 conference record there is zero chance they have a better seed than us.

Remember you are dealing with the NCAA so there is no telling

[TeufelHog]

You guys do realize we aren't that special right?  Where/when have our Hogs been overly impressive?  To be kind we are terribly inconsistent.  I will not be surprised if/when all 8 or 9 of our SEC teams get spanked in the NCAA Tourney.  I fall into the group that think our conference is tremendously average.  Think there is a good chance we all get exposed in the tourney.

[HogFaninMemphis]

You guys do realize we aren't that special right?  Where/when have our Hogs been overly impressive?  To be kind we are terribly inconsistent.  I will not be surprised if/when all 8 or 9 of our SEC teams get spanked in the NCAA Tourney.  I fall into the group that think our conference is tremendously average.  Think there is a good chance we all get exposed in the tourney.

I sincerely hope you're wrong, but I think you're right about the conference being overrated. Positive is that more teams means higher chance someone makes a run. Quantity can't be understated when it comes to tourney play since it's so random.

[Randohoggie]

You guys do realize we aren't that special right?  Where/when have our Hogs been overly impressive?  To be kind we are terribly inconsistent.  I will not be surprised if/when all 8 or 9 of our SEC teams get spanked in the NCAA Tourney.  I fall into the group that think our conference is tremendously average.  Think there is a good chance we all get exposed in the tourney.

The SEC beat the Big 12 straight up in the challenge, even without Auburn or Missouri playing.

The SEC also had non-conference wins outside that challenge over Purdue, Gonzaga, Cinncinati, West Virginia, USC, St. Mary's, Rhode Island, Michigan, Houston and more.

The SEC is not average.

[raz1965]

I bet the SEC wins a fair share of tourney games.

[King Kong]

Lunardi is great at predicting who is in an out but his seeding lines are not accurate on many occasions.

This is true. Lunardi lives by his BPI. Which the NCAA doesn't consider at all