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Brandon Martin vs. Devwah Whaley

Started by J-Five, September 21, 2017, 12:32:32 pm

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J-Five

Vicious rumor that Brandon Martin and Devwah Whaley were wrestling around and Whaley somehow tore a braid from Martin's head, which caused Martin to then punch Whaley and possibly break his jaw.  IF this is true, this is definitely not a good look, 2 days from a must-win game so early in the season.  Trey Schaap confirmed the scuffle on The Buzz this morning (103.7 in Little Rock), but was unsure as to whether Whaley's jaw was broken or not.  Anyone else hear of this today?
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Tusks

Quote from: J-Five on September 21, 2017, 12:32:32 pm
Vicious rumor that Brandon Martin and Devwah Whaley were wrestling around and Whaley somehow tore a braid from Martin's head, which caused Martin to then punch Whaley and possibly break his jaw.  IF this is true, this is definitely not a good look, 2 days from a must-win game so early in the season.  Trey Schaap confirmed the scuffle on The Buzz this morning (103.7 in Little Rock), but was unsure as to whether Whaley's jaw was broken or not.  Anyone else hear of this today?

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porkrindjimmy

This has been confirmed. Why are you moving it? Danny West confirmed. Justin Acri confirmed...Trey Buddy admitted a scuffle...

PRJ

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hobhog


hobhog

Quote from: porkrindjimmy on September 21, 2017, 12:34:21 pm
This has been confirmed. Why are you moving it? Danny West confirmed. Justin Acri confirmed...Trey Buddy admitted a scuffle...

PRJ

Other than a push and shove, WHAT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED?


Next1_04

Quote from: hobhog on September 21, 2017, 12:35:43 pm
Other than a push and shove, WHAT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED?



Exactly. Who gives a flying poo about a scuffle.

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Quote from: hobhog on September 21, 2017, 12:35:43 pm
Other than a push and shove, WHAT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED?
That a dreadlock was pulled out at whaley ended up on the floor
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hogblitz

Quote from: porkrindjimmy on September 21, 2017, 12:34:21 pm
This has been confirmed. Why are you moving it? Danny West confirmed. Justin Acri confirmed...Trey Buddy admitted a scuffle...

PRJ
It's not fitting the agenda of whom runs the board.  Amazing how things have changed on here since the HDN days! 

younghog

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hobhog

Quote from: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on September 21, 2017, 12:38:01 pm
That a dreadlock was pulled out at whaley ended up on the floor

Link?

And then .....who cares.

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porkrindjimmy

There was much more than a push and a shove confirmed...described as horseplay that went to far and that one dude showed that he could fight and not so much the other one....

Sounds like a push and a shove though...

PRJ

Etowah

Whaley out for Saturday or done for the year?

If not..not a story. 

Seebs

You rassle me with dreads they are getting plucked like a ripe plum.  Then I am washing my hands.
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hogcard1964

Quote from: Etowah on September 21, 2017, 12:41:24 pm
Whaley out for Saturday or done for the year?

If not..not a story.

Nobody's out.

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: porkrindjimmy on September 21, 2017, 12:41:06 pm
There was much more than a push and a shove confirmed...described as horseplay that went to far and that one dude showed that he could fight and not so much the other one....

Sounds like a push and a shove though...

PRJ

Not necessarily on the one can fight the other can't, in the scenario you describe. Not that it matters
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hobhog

Quote from: porkrindjimmy on September 21, 2017, 12:41:06 pm
There was much more than a push and a shove confirmed...described as horseplay that went to far and that one dude showed that he could fight and not so much the other one....

Sounds like a push and a shove though...

PRJ

So now you're saying one player is a wussy? And it's confirmed? Got it.

(notOM)Rebel123

Quote from: porkrindjimmy on September 21, 2017, 12:34:21 pm
This has been confirmed. Why are you moving it? Danny West confirmed. Justin Acri confirmed...Trey Buddy admitted a scuffle...

PRJ

Trey goes by what Danny says, Acri gets his info from Trey. This isn't confirmation from 3 sources.
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Polecat

Quote from: Seebs on September 21, 2017, 12:42:49 pm
You rassle me with dreads they are getting plucked like a ripe plum.  Then I am washing my hands.
100%
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hobhog

Quote from: (notOM)Rebel123 on September 21, 2017, 12:44:41 pm
Trey goes by what Danny says, Acri gets his info from Trey. This isn't confirmation from 3 sources.

So when can we start blaming people?

ErieHog

Quote from: hobhog on September 21, 2017, 12:46:24 pm
So when can we start blaming people?

We started blaming people before it began.  Hogville isn't bound by time or space.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

WilsonHog

When someone from UA who is in a position of authority confirms it, get back to me.

 

GoHogzzGo

A little fighting is good if handled correctly.

Broken jaw thing is inaccurate though right? That would be too far obviously.
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phadedhawg

It's a very specific rumor, normally rumors are about "4 pm press conferences", "meetings involving an unemployed coach", sometimes uniform changes but rarely something like this. 

That doesn't make it true but there's a lot of very specific smoke for there to not be a reason why.


Polecat

Quote from: ErieHog on September 21, 2017, 12:47:02 pm
We started blaming people before it began.  Hogville isn't bound by time or space.

Hogville posters: think of men, then take away reason and accountability
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hogcard1964

Quote from: GoHogzzGo on September 21, 2017, 12:47:22 pm
A little fighting is good if handled correctly.

Broken jaw thing is inaccurate though right? That would be too far obviously.

Yea, just a scuffle.

All's well.

ErieHog

Quote from: phadedhawg on September 21, 2017, 12:48:02 pm
It's a very specific rumor, normally rumors are about "4 pm press conferences", "meetings involving an unemployed coach", sometimes uniform changes but rarely something like this. 

That doesn't make it true but there's a lot of very specific smoke for there to not be a reason why.

Not really.   I mean, we had John Gruden on campus for an interview, on a specific day.   How'd that pan out?
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Quote from: hobhog on September 21, 2017, 12:39:44 pm
Link?

And then .....who cares.
Danny west talked about it on the radio. As far as I know, theres no way to link to the radio. Don't get me started on these millennials and their technology
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(notOM)Rebel123

Quote from: ErieHog on September 21, 2017, 12:47:02 pm
We started blaming people before it began.  Hogville isn't bound by time or space.

The OP that started the first thread that was trashed blamed CBB from the get-go.
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hobhog

Quote from: phadedhawg on September 21, 2017, 12:48:02 pm
It's a very specific rumor, normally rumors are about "4 pm press conferences", "meetings involving an unemployed coach", sometimes uniform changes but rarely something like this. 

That doesn't make it true but there's a lot of very specific smoke for there to not be a reason why.

Still doesn't get it......

(notOM)Rebel123

Quote from: ErieHog on September 21, 2017, 12:49:11 pm
Not really.   I mean, we had John Gruden on campus for an interview, on a specific day.   How'd that pan out?

What restaurant was Bill Cowher seen eating in? Ha!
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HawgTrough

I'm interested in purchasing the braid in question.
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pignparadise

I heard it was a draw. One judge actually  scored it 118-112 Whaley. Rematch will be on HBO.
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(notOM)Rebel123

Quick...some of you kids get on "The Twitter"!
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Letsroll1200

We need some depth at linebacker, Brandon Martin is 6'4 216 and dont mind hitting somebody.

jgphillips3

Hell, if we can't get Martin on the field to catch balls, let's just send him in to take dudes out.

Next1_04

Quote from: (notOM)Rebel123 on September 21, 2017, 12:54:21 pm
Quick...some of you kids get on "The Twitter"!

Been on it for the last two hours. Not a peep. Take that compared to the flame thrower going down on here.

ErieHog

Quote from: Next1_04 on September 21, 2017, 12:58:50 pm
Been on it for the last two hours. Not a peep. Take that compared to the flame thrower going down on here.

There are a handful of retweets of the rumors, but nothing substantive.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

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Tusks


What to heck moderators

If you're gong to trash the thread at least give some clarification to whats going on.
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J-Five

THIS WAS CONFIRMED ON THE RADIO, WHY WAS THIS POST DELETED/MOVED?  THIS IS RIDICULOUS...
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ErieHog

Quote from: tusked on September 21, 2017, 01:12:15 pm
What to heck moderators

If you're gong to trash the thread at least give some clarification to whats going on.

The reason that this is trashed,  is because clarification is not possible at this time.

That's the point.   For now, its pretty well in the range of unsubstantiated rumor; even the fight itself is not well sourced--  though being generous and crediting the two people who have reported the altercation as being accurate in as much as it happened--  is not exactly the sort of vetting you expect of a major news story of any stripe.

Worse still, we have additional 'media members' piggybacking off of this, and it not being independently confirmed,  either in scope or impact.

Even being generous, this is an example of how bad Arkansas sports media really is.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

87017

Quote from: ErieHog on September 21, 2017, 01:15:56 pm
The reason that this is trashed,  is because clarification is not possible at this time.

That's the point.   For now, its pretty well in the range of unsubstantiated rumor; even the fight itself is not well sourced--  though being generous and crediting the two people who have reported the altercation as being accurate in as much as it happened--  is not exactly the sort of vetting you expect of a major news story of any stripe.

Worse still, we have additional 'media members' piggybacking off of this, and it not being independently confirmed,  either in scope or impact.

Even being generous, this is an example of how bad Arkansas sports media really is.

Who else would you need to verify that an altercation happened? Wally Hall and the Jeff Long?

I'm all for dogging Arkansas sports media but all they confirmed was that something happened between Whaley and Martin. Speculation after that is on the fanbase


ErieHog

Quote from: 87017 on September 21, 2017, 01:22:50 pm
Who else would you need to verify that an altercation happened? Wally Hall and the Jeff Long?

I'm all for dogging Arkansas sports media but all they confirmed was that something happened between Whaley and Martin. Speculation after that is on the fanbase


The altercation is much farther along in being confirmed than the broken jaw;  at least there, we now seem to have two different reports that aren't repetitions of each other,  that a fight occurred.

Its a process; a good rule of thumb with any 'breaking news' story is that until there are three independent sources,  its a good thing to temper the expectation of it being gospel.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."