UALR football?

[factchecker]

And there are some that are both.

Don't let the diehard red pup fans know about those.  They hate the "fans of both".  Ask Freddie Knighten about how they treated him after rooting for the Hogs during the Texas Bowl.

[Inhogswetrust]

Don't let the diehard red pup fans know about those.  They hate the "fans of both".  Ask Freddie Knighten about how they treated him after rooting for the Hogs during the Texas Bowl.

Of course. But there are some Hog fans that hate them and the diehard pup fans as well. I haver no problem with pup fans as long as they don't dog the Hogs. Pardon the pun.

[factchecker]

The Political climate is better for this kind of change.  I would love to see Trojan Football.

Aren't you the most anti-Razorback spending person on this board.  Didn't you oppose the stadium expansion?

Why are you ok with UALR stealing money from students and taking millions in subsidies but against the Razorbacks spending their own self-sufficient money?

[bphi11ips]

THE RAZORBACKS PAY WMS TO PLAY THERE!!!!!! We pay a fee to play at War Memorial Stadium.  Which is [CENSORED] stupid.  If anything the Razorbacks should be paid to play in Little Rock.

Who collects ticket revenue from Little Rock games?

[factchecker]

Who collects ticket revenue from Little Rock games?

The Razorbacks should get all the money.  IF it's a "home" game then give Razorbacks control and don't charge them a fee.  Let us pay for the operating expenses.  Let us bring down our own staff, security, concessions etc.  WMS takes enough money from the tax payers.  Why does it need any more from the Razorbacks?

[factchecker]

This brings up another good point.  Why are fans of WMS fine with taking tax money to keep their stadium running but pissed when the self-sufficient Razorbacks expand/improve our stadium?

[bphi11ips]

The Razorbacks should get all the money.  IF it's a "home" game then give Razorbacks control and don't charge them a fee.  Let us pay for the operating expenses.  Let us bring down our own staff, security, concessions etc.  WMS takes enough money from the tax payers.  Why does it need any more from the Razorbacks?

How would you define "operating expenses" in the lease?

[factchecker]

How would you define "operating expenses" in the lease?

Give us control the week of the game.  The Razorbacks can pay for the electricity, security, ushers etc. when we play our "home" games in WMS.  It would be nice to have ushers who do their job and direct people to the right area.  We need to have control of concessions as well.  Nothing better than the concession stands running out of cold drinks and bottle water by halftime when it's 100 degrees.

Regardless, when we move out and when (IF) UALR moves in they better be charged the $75,000 per game fee that we were.

Funny enough, some of the UALR people want to build their own stadium.  They don't want to play in WMS either.

[Atlhogfan1]

Not enough money for ualr to start football

Central Ark has a crap history of supporting anything not Razorback with exception of the Travs. 

LR is a lost cause for high school football compared to most of the rest of the southern cities.

Focus on basketball and invest in it. Could be great branding opportunity.

Have ASU, UCA and UAPB play a game in WMS each season. Bring in monster trucks and a big summer concert or two.

[DeltaBoy]

Aren't you the most anti-Razorback spending person on this board.  Didn't you oppose the stadium expansion?

Why are you ok with UALR stealing money from students and taking millions in subsidies but against the Razorbacks spending their own self-sufficient money?

Check your facts I very pro Hogs I just want the prices to be cheap enough for more people to go.  I care nothing about them expanding the stadium on the Hill. UALR had Football until the merger and Frank threw around his weight and made them kill the program before joining the UA system.

[GolfNut57]

They fill the Stephens Center 1 time a year when Arkansas State brings their entire redneck fanbase to watch the basketball games, how are they going to fill War Memorial? Little Rock couldn't even sell out a few years ago when the Hogs played Georgia there...

Now that is funny right there. Saying StAte's entire fan base is redneck is hilarious when you consider there are thousands upon thousands of hog "fans" that are only so because they bought a T-shirt at the local Walmart. And I guess you are also saying that Mike Beebe, the former Gov is also a redneck? And btw, considering that ASU averages 22-23K or so for home football games in Jonesboro it is also stupid on your part to imply that the 1500 or so that travel to Little Rock for the basketball game vs UALR is their "entire" fan base.


Now as to the original post about UALR football.......I was under the impression that UALR had an agreement with Fayetteville once they entered the UA system that they could not have football for a X number of years and though I don't remember the exact number it is a LONG ways from expiring. But even if they do it is laughable that anyone would think they would get P5 schools to come to Little Rock to play them right off the bat. They would likely start out as a FCS school and P5 programs do NOT travel to play FCS schools. Especially those that are just starting up a football program.

[GolfNut57]

It would be awesome.  After everyone is drunk on the golf course you can have gun fights for condoms before heading into the stadium.

hahahaha....as if UALR football would have so many fans that parking on the golf course would be needed.

[ricepig]

Now that is funny right there. Saying StAte's entire fan base is redneck is hilarious when you consider there are thousands upon thousands of hog "fans" that are only so because they bought a T-shirt at the local Walmart. And I guess you are also saying that Mike Beebe, the former Gov is also a redneck? And btw, considering that ASU averages 22-23K or so for home football games in Jonesboro it is also stupid on your part to imply that the 1500 or so that travel to Little Rock for the basketball game vs UALR is their "entire" fan base.


Now as to the original post about UALR football.......I was under the impression that UALR had an agreement with Fayetteville once they entered the UA system that they could not have football for a X number of years and though I don't remember the exact number it is a LONG ways from expiring. But even if they do it is laughable that anyone would think they would get P5 schools to come to Little Rock to play them right off the bat. They would likely start out as a FCS school and P5 programs do NOT travel to play FCS schools. Especially those that are just starting up a football program.

Lol, I guess every ASU fan was a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of the school? I would imagine, % wise, about as many ASU fans didn't attend school there, there's just a lot fewer ASU fans. As to the "redneck" part, I would imagine former Gov. Beebe would fall in the category, just like the rest of us in Arkansas.

As to getting P5's to visit, that's a laugher for sure.

[GolfNut57]

Not enough money for ualr to start football

Central Ark has a crap history of supporting anything not Razorback with exception of the Travs. 

LR is a lost cause for high school football compared to most of the rest of the southern cities.

Focus on basketball and invest in it. Could be great branding opportunity.

Have ASU, UCA and UAPB play a game in WMS each season. Bring in monster trucks and a big summer concert or two.

No way will ASU travel to Little Rock to play either of the FCS schools in UAPB or UCA. ASU doesn't travel to play FCS schools! And for that matter ASU has no real interest in going to WMS to play anyone else. They got very little fan support in the past, even when playing OSU there and certainly aren't going to pay the travel expenses required or the rental on the place when they can stay in Jonesboro and save money.

[DeltaBoy]

Well we will see if it comes True. But while I wanted it to happen I just don't believe the Money is there to pull it off.

[Inhogswetrust]

Check your facts I very pro Hogs I just want the prices to be cheap enough for more people to go.  I care nothing about them expanding the stadium on the Hill. UALR had Football until the merger and Frank threw around his weight and made them kill the program before joining the UA system.

Wrong. Speaking of checking facts, you need to check your facts.  UALR last fielded a football team in 1955. That was a few years BEFORE Frank came to Fayetteville. The merger didn't even happen until 1969. Frank might have said he had no problem with them joining the system as long as they didn't RESTART football. Frank had nothing to do with them not playing football since that already didn't when he got here. Even IF he had done that they still needed to join the system. Joining the system has helped them immeasurably and it had nothing to do with athletics.

[ImHogginIt]

Well we will see if it comes True. But while I wanted it to happen I just don't believe the Money is there to pull it off.

So you want tickets to be cheap so folks can attend but you just don't think there will be enough money to run a DI program.  What color is the sky in your world ? 

[Seminole Indian]

Just based on reading post here and other places it appears that  most people think  football at UALR is a long shot at best.

It does appear that there will continue to be some economic incentives for the G5's to reconfigure, especially CUSA, and that could be a "catalyst" for it to happen, or not to happen.

[Atlhogfan1]

No way will ASU travel to Little Rock to play either of the FCS schools in UAPB or UCA. ASU doesn't travel to play FCS schools! And for that matter ASU has no real interest in going to WMS to play anyone else for that matter. They got very little fan support in the past, even when playing OSU there and certainly aren't going to pay the travel expenses required or the rental on the place when they cn stay in Jonesboro and save money.

I wasn't saying they play each other. 

WMS gets tax dollars off of a % of the attendees to events.  They will need events. 

[DeltaBoy]

Wrong. Speaking of checking facts, you need to check your facts.  UALR last fielded a football team in 1955. That was a few years BEFORE Frank came to Fayetteville. The merger didn't even happen until 1969. Frank might have said he had no problem with them joining the system as long as they didn't RESTART football. Frank had nothing to do with them not playing football since that already didn't when he got here. Even IF he had done that they still needed to join the system. Joining the system has helped them immeasurably and it had nothing to do with athletics.

Yes cause it cost too much money.

[Inhogswetrust]

Yes cause it cost too much money.

They needed the system for other things AND the money it provided for the school, not athletics.

[Ben]

I believe in them. I hope they can get their program going. There is so much talent in the central Arkansas that they can pull in some good players. Not to mention those who would rather be in a city setting than in a country setting like 99% of the state

[Seminole Indian]

I've always associated basketball with cities , football with smaller towns. 

[DeltaBoy]

Wrong. Speaking of checking facts, you need to check your facts.  UALR last fielded a football team in 1955. That was a few years BEFORE Frank came to Fayetteville. The merger didn't even happen until 1969. Frank might have said he had no problem with them joining the system as long as they didn't RESTART football. Frank had nothing to do with them not playing football since that already didn't when he got here. Even IF he had done that they still needed to join the system. Joining the system has helped them immeasurably and it had nothing to do with athletics.

When they entered into the Merger some LR business people wanted UA to help fund a restart and UALR would have been in the AIC with UCA and UAM etc.  Frank said HELL NO to in college Football in LR except the Hogs. Per James T. "Jimmy" Karam who ran a mens store in Little Rock and was still around when we asked for football back in the 1980's

[DeltaBoy]

Good read
http://aymag.com/historical-gems-little-rocks-junior-rose-bowl-champions/