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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #500 on: May 17, 2017, 11:30:14 pm »

here we go with another insecure poorlilolearkiesaw syndrome flare-up.... coming on the recruiting thread just to criticise the state's top black athlete ::)

I come here quite often, but this board has become practically dead, so I don't comment much. And what does race have to do with it?
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #501 on: May 18, 2017, 01:07:37 am »

I come here quite often, but this board has become practically dead, so I don't comment much. And what does race have to do with it?
Apparently some of these people think we have a better shot with a black QB.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #502 on: May 18, 2017, 07:13:41 am »

here we go with another insecure poorlilolearkiesaw syndrome flare-up.... coming on the recruiting thread just to criticise the state's top black athlete ::)

What difference does his color make?
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #503 on: May 18, 2017, 07:26:51 am »

What difference does his color make?
It doesn't until you run out of other arguments.  Their is a strong argument to the level of comp he has faced.  However, he is a very gifted athlete and I hope he chooses the Hogs.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #504 on: May 18, 2017, 07:33:45 am »

It doesn't until you run out of other arguments.  Their is a strong argument to the level of comp he has faced.  However, he is a very gifted athlete and I hope he chooses the Hogs.

I don't think any of the other SEC coaches that have offered him think 2A football in Arkansas is top notch, but they've all offered him based on his individual athleticism. I view the delay as a positive, as I think he was committing to MSU, hopefully we keep making up ground.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #505 on: May 18, 2017, 07:57:40 am »

I know Bama also offered as an athlete.  I understand his desire, and frankly, he won't see the field in his first season anyway so he will have ample time to prove if he has SEC strength as a QB.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #506 on: May 18, 2017, 08:40:14 am »

This thread is taking a turn for the trash can.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #507 on: May 18, 2017, 09:07:05 am »

Apparently some of these people think we have a better shot with a black QB.
We have a better shot with a dynamic athlete at QB. That's not very debatable. When defenses have to compensate for a running qb it's opens everything else up and it's much harder to prepare.  If any fans should realize this it should be ours.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #508 on: May 18, 2017, 09:10:59 am »

We have a better shot with a dynamic athlete at QB. That's not very debatable. When defenses have to compensate for a running qb it's opens everything else up and it's much harder to prepare.  If any fans should realize this it should be ours.
But that's simply up to the coach to determine.  I don't think being mobile is the issue.  It's can he stand in the pocket and dissect the defense when that warrants.  Getting outside the box is a lot easier against a 2A LB than it is one in the SEC.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #509 on: May 18, 2017, 09:29:32 am »

the same people obsessed with this kid being the best ever also cry when folks say LeBron isn't better than Jordan.

same. exact. people.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #510 on: May 18, 2017, 10:00:52 am »

But that's simply up to the coach to determine.  I don't think being mobile is the issue.  It's can he stand in the pocket and dissect the defense when that warrants.  Getting outside the box is a lot easier against a 2A LB than it is one in the SEC.
It's called development. And looking at his offer list about all of the SEC West wants to develop him. The evaluation is over. Y'all can sit around typing about who he played against in high school but the fact is that people who get paid millions of dollars to evaluate and coach want him as a scholarship QB.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #511 on: May 18, 2017, 10:12:05 am »

the same people obsessed with this kid being the best ever also cry when folks say LeBron isn't better than Jordan.

same. exact. people.
Why not show the young fellow some love? He's earned it.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #512 on: May 18, 2017, 10:16:00 am »

Why not show the young fellow some love? He's earned it.

I'm sure he's great.

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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #513 on: May 18, 2017, 10:50:03 am »

So, he's announcing top 5 tomorrow, right?  Any chance we don't make the top 5?

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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #514 on: May 18, 2017, 11:40:17 am »

So, he's announcing top 5 tomorrow, right?  Any chance we don't make the top 5?

Doubtful. I feel like he would include us out of respect if nothing else.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #515 on: May 18, 2017, 12:32:49 pm »

It's called development. And looking at his offer list about all of the SEC West wants to develop him. The evaluation is over. Y'all can sit around typing about who he played against in high school but the fact is that people who get paid millions of dollars to evaluate and coach want him as a scholarship QB.
Including Bret Bielema.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #516 on: May 18, 2017, 01:30:42 pm »

Y'all can sit around typing about who he played against in high school but the fact is that people who get paid millions of dollars to evaluate and coach want him as a scholarship QB.

Fans prefer convenient arguments.  This is another one of those.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #517 on: May 18, 2017, 01:34:02 pm »

I would expect some crystal balls to change in the coming weeks.  This went from a certainty to a second thought.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #518 on: May 18, 2017, 02:43:05 pm »

What difference does his color make?
it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #519 on: May 18, 2017, 03:03:53 pm »

it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?

Umm, he said he was backing out of his announcement, I didn't realize that was racists.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #520 on: May 18, 2017, 03:43:26 pm »

So, he's announcing top 5 tomorrow, right?  Any chance we don't make the top 5?

Woot yeah glad he change to top 5 only.

My guess is Arkansas. Auburn, Louisville, Miss State, Alabama.
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« Reply #521 on: May 18, 2017, 04:55:29 pm »

it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?

You're out of your mind crazy. The reason was pretty apparent. I stated my thoughts on the situation being yet ANOTHER kid that's a prima donna and in my opinion, is doing all of this announcing, changing dates, etc. to stir the pot and build up the drama. That will then make the national pundits salivate over him while he chooses to go to a bigger SEC school. I COULD be wrong in that he thought he knew where he was going, wanted to lock in a commitment and then had a change of heart where he backed off of publicly announcing. That's not the way I'm reading the tea leaves in this instance, given how so many have played out in the past. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. You just throw that out there to try and support your argument, but no dice. Major backfire. And word to the wise, don't go around slinging insults about others being racist, especially when it has nothing to do with the aforementioned topic. I would welcome a commit from Bohanon 10 out of 10 times. I just don't like the attention seeking way of doing things.
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« Reply #522 on: May 18, 2017, 07:21:52 pm »

You're out of your mind crazy. The reason was pretty apparent. I stated my thoughts on the situation being yet ANOTHER kid that's a prima donna and in my opinion, is doing all of this announcing, changing dates, etc. to stir the pot and build up the drama. That will then make the national pundits salivate over him while he chooses to go to a bigger SEC school. I COULD be wrong in that he thought he knew where he was going, wanted to lock in a commitment and then had a change of heart where he backed off of publicly announcing. That's not the way I'm reading the tea leaves in this instance, given how so many have played out in the past. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. You just throw that out there to try and support your argument, but no dice. Major backfire. And word to the wise, don't go around slinging insults about others being racist, especially when it has nothing to do with the aforementioned topic. I would welcome a commit from Bohanon 10 out of 10 times. I just don't like the attention seeking way of doing things.

Not saying you're racist at all. But you may be misreading this situation. He hasn't had any drama at all. 
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #523 on: May 18, 2017, 08:24:27 pm »

Umm, he said he was backing out of his announcement, I didn't realize that was racists.
wth are you talking about? dude came in and drop a drive-by darn-post on Gerry. talking crap. If he had done that about Nolan, there would have been hell to pay. In fact, I myself got told to stop "talking bad about Nolan" when all i did was talk good about Gerry. This is the recruiting forum. You DO NOT come in here with that crap like Rock City did. If you do, Im gonna call you on it. And the ones that defend him are just outting your own selves.

We aren't blind. Or dumb. :P
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« Reply #524 on: May 18, 2017, 09:15:48 pm »

That wasn't likely racist.

Earlier either in this thread or the in state class thread, somebody posted some racist crap on how the only reason Gerry wasn't being offered as qb was because the coaching staff was racist.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #525 on: May 18, 2017, 09:20:42 pm »

Not saying you're racist at all. But you may be misreading this situation. He hasn't had any drama at all.

I very well could be, and as mentioned, I don't have a problem being wrong. in this case, I hope that I am and that he changed announcement date because he's looking more at the Hogs despite the MSU crystal ball picks flooding in. I'm just saying I've seen it before where it's all about the buildup before committing and signing.
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« Reply #526 on: May 18, 2017, 09:24:19 pm »

wth are you talking about? dude came in and drop a drive-by darn-post on Gerry. talking crap. If he had done that about Nolan, there would have been hell to pay. In fact, I myself got told to stop "talking bad about Nolan" when all i did was talk good about Gerry. This is the recruiting forum. You DO NOT come in here with that crap like Rock City did. If you do, Im gonna call you on it. And the ones that defend him are just outting your own selves.

We aren't blind. Or dumb. :P

Call me out on whatever you think is wrong, but I'll speak my mind. And I'll be more than glad to call you out on your BS, because evidently, there's a lot of it! I never spoke ill of Gerry. Just that the situation is turning into another drama filled one because he's a highly recruited in-state player. It's been an up and down affair with those type of players.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #527 on: May 19, 2017, 06:50:32 am »

wth are you talking about? dude came in and drop a drive-by darn-post on Gerry. talking crap. If he had done that about Nolan, there would have been hell to pay. In fact, I myself got told to stop "talking bad about Nolan" when all i did was talk good about Gerry. This is the recruiting forum. You DO NOT come in here with that crap like Rock City did. If you do, Im gonna call you on it. And the ones that defend him are just outting your own selves.

We aren't blind. Or dumb. :P
Who is "we"? And who is Nolan?
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #528 on: May 19, 2017, 01:22:36 pm »

Mitchell has his name engraved on the sidewalk at this university if I'm not mistaken (he was here 4 years and didn't have to sit out a year at NC State so I'm assuming he pursued a graduate degree there...). I wouldn't try to belittle him or bash him as you are doing here.

BM gave us 4 years of his life as was instrumental in helping us prepare for mobile qb's in his time here. He missed extended time at NC State but showed that in just one off-season, he was able to beat out all of their qb's for the starting job. He paid his dues here, lost a fair battle for the starting position, and he deserved to get some real playing time before his career ended and I have no issue with him transferring. It hurt us in 2013 no question, but I'd have done the same thing.

As for why he lost the battle to BA, Mitchell had the stronger arm and the greater athleticism, but according to the coaches (and this was apparent when practices were open as well), he struggled to put any touch on the ball when the situation called for it and he struggled with throwing interceptions. BA had a pretty good arm in his own right, had solid athleticism for a qb, but was very careful with the ball and accurate. Again, if I were in those same shoes, I'd have chosen BA as the starter myself.

Re-reading this tread due to Bohanon's committment date change.  I like the kid and hope he signs with our beloved Hogs. But if I was his father, I would probably lean toward Miss St., due to Mullens history with QBs (Dak, and the current kid).  And IMHO, one of CBBs early mistakes was not starting BM his senior year. The fam and I made the trek from Atlanta to watch the spring game that year. My sons and I agreed that BA was more active (hyped) during the game, but it was clear to us that BM would be our starting QB.  It was nothing that he did that was so special, it was the fact that he did as well as BA, but wasn't all that emotional or hyped. I would have started BM without hesitation. He was the much better overall athlete, and his dedication to the program would have meant something, IMHO.  Starting BM didn't mean that he couldn't have been pulled for BA if/when it became obvious that he couldn't get the job done. BA is a clearly a stud!!  But we started him too early, and it wasn't necessary to do so, and decisions like these is why we are now battling MSU for the services of Mr. Bohanon. 
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #529 on: May 19, 2017, 01:49:58 pm »

Re-reading this tread due to Bohanon's committment date change.  I like the kid and hope he signs with our beloved Hogs. But if I was his father, I would probably lean toward Miss St., due to Mullens history with QBs (Dak, and the current kid).  And IMHO, one of CBBs early mistakes was not starting BM his senior year. The fam and I made the trek from Atlanta to watch the spring game that year. My sons and I agreed that BA was more active (hyped) during the game, but it was clear to us that BM would be our starting QB.  It was nothing that he did that was so special, it was the fact that he did as well as BA, but wasn't all that emotional or hyped. I would have started BM without hesitation. He was the much better overall athlete, and his dedication to the program would have meant something, IMHO.  Starting BM didn't mean that he couldn't have been pulled for BA if/when it became obvious that he couldn't get the job done. BA is a clearly a stud!!  But we started him too early, and it wasn't necessary to do so, and decisions like these is why we are now battling MSU for the services of Mr. Bohanon.
So based off of a spring game you have decided that is why we are recruiting against MSU Auburn Bama for an Arkansas kid? Starting BM wouldn't have changed Mullen developing QBs or Gus going to Auburn or Bama domination?
You don't see players every day in practice or in meetings, who the players gravitate towards. But no a spring game is all you needed to see.

Bohanon is a good prospect but it's not the end of the world if we don't get him as we have just as good or better QB prospect in Conner. Let's stop creating false narratives like starting BA over BM is the reason we might not get Bohanon.

Edit: Too add by your own admission BM wasn't any better than BA so shouldnt we go with the younger of the two as he would presumably​ have the greater potential since he was of equal skill with BM despite having spent less time in a college program.
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« Reply #530 on: May 19, 2017, 02:01:17 pm »

So based off of a spring game you have decided that is why we are recruiting against MSU Auburn Bama for an Arkansas kid? Starting BM wouldn't have changed Mullen developing QBs or Gus going to Auburn or Bama domination?
You don't see players every day in practice or in meetings, who the players gravitate towards. But no a spring game is all you needed to see.

Bohanon is a good prospect but it's not the end of the world if we don't get him as we have just as good or better QB prospect in Conner. Let's stop creating false narratives like starting BA over BM is the reason we might not get Bohanon.

Uh, no.  I didn't base my opinion off of a spring game.  I, like 90% of the posters here get my information about the Hogs from news reports. I am that unusual fan that follows our team rather closely, my wife says that I am somewhat crazy in my devotion.  I have traveled this great world for over 30 years, and have watched easily  90% of our games to include BB.  I have attended games at Fayetteville, UGA, and USC.  Same goes for BB....saying this to say that I have my opinion and you have yours.  If you don't think that not starting BM a few years ago doesn't have an affect on recruiting, well I don't know what to tell you.  But it is not at all a false narrative my friend. 

But I do agree with you in that if he signs elsewhere, it will not be the end of the world.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #531 on: May 19, 2017, 02:16:22 pm »

Edit: Too add by your own admission BM wasn't any better than BA so shouldnt we go with the younger of the two as he would presumably​ have the greater potential since he was of equal skill with BM despite having spent less time in a college program.
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No, you go with the senior, more experience player.  Experience equates to intangibles.  Arguably, BA would have been much more prepared to assume the reigns his Jr and Sr year.  I don't think that it's even a contest in regards to who had the better year as a first time starter, AA or BA.  CBB first year on the Hill was his "throw-a-way" year, so play the veterans, fight for a decent record and get the young guys ready to go the next year. We are Arkansas, not Bama, OSU, or FSU....we don't expect 10 win seasons every year, regardless of the roster turnover.  We accept 3-6 wins in a rebuild year, 7-9 most other years, throw in the occasional 10 win season and we are fans for life:). 

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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #532 on: May 19, 2017, 03:28:45 pm »

Re-reading this tread due to Bohanon's committment date change.  I like the kid and hope he signs with our beloved Hogs. But if I was his father, I would probably lean toward Miss St., due to Mullens history with QBs (Dak, and the current kid).  And IMHO, one of CBBs early mistakes was not starting BM his senior year. The fam and I made the trek from Atlanta to watch the spring game that year. My sons and I agreed that BA was more active (hyped) during the game, but it was clear to us that BM would be our starting QB.  It was nothing that he did that was so special, it was the fact that he did as well as BA, but wasn't all that emotional or hyped. I would have started BM without hesitation. He was the much better overall athlete, and his dedication to the program would have meant something, IMHO.  Starting BM didn't mean that he couldn't have been pulled for BA if/when it became obvious that he couldn't get the job done. BA is a clearly a stud!!  But we started him too early, and it wasn't necessary to do so, and decisions like these is why we are now battling MSU for the services of Mr. Bohanon.

He didn't do as well as BA though. Well, depending on what you place more emphasis on.

Here's an abbreviated checklist and what each was better at

Pocket presence: Push
Mobility in pocket: BA
Mobility out of pocket: BM
Deep ball strength: BM
Deep ball accuracy: BM
Short ball touch: BA
Short ball accuracy: BA
quick release: BA
Reading defense: BA
Limiting turnovers: BA
team leadership: Push
size: BM

Mitchell gave us us a qb who was more of a threat running the football and had a better deep ball. However, more fumbles, more interceptions, more dropped passes from receivers 5 yards down field because of a lack of touch.

Allen gave us a qb who was more accurate, particularly in the short to intermediate where most throws happen. Who turned the ball over less. But who was still agile and still had NFL level arm strength.

Factor in how that year Bielema's idea was for a run first, ball control offense to help out the bend but don't break defense that year, being able to nickel and dime in the passing game and not turn the ball over were the key qualities he wanted.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #533 on: May 19, 2017, 03:42:42 pm »

it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?

always bringing up race....
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« Reply #534 on: May 19, 2017, 04:17:00 pm »

He didn't do as well as BA though. Well, depending on what you place more emphasis on.

Here's an abbreviated checklist and what each was better at

Pocket presence: Push
Mobility in pocket: BA
Mobility out of pocket: BM
Deep ball strength: BM
Deep ball accuracy: BM
Short ball touch: BA
Short ball accuracy: BA
quick release: BA
Reading defense: BA
Limiting turnovers: BA
team leadership: Push
size: BM

Mitchell gave us us a qb who was more of a threat running the football and had a better deep ball. However, more fumbles, more interceptions, more dropped passes from receivers 5 yards down field because of a lack of touch.

Allen gave us a qb who was more accurate, particularly in the short to intermediate where most throws happen. Who turned the ball over less. But who was still agile and still had NFL level arm strength.

Factor in how that year Bielema's idea was for a run first, ball control offense to help out the bend but don't break defense that year, being able to nickel and dime in the passing game and not turn the ball over were the key qualities he wanted.
Fair assessment....basically even.  Not enough separation to warrant starting an underclassman over a senior who had sacrificed so much for the team.  BM deserved to start for the Hogs his senior year....if he stunk it up, bring in BA. 

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« Reply #535 on: May 19, 2017, 04:32:46 pm »

Fair assessment....basically even.  Not enough separation to warrant starting an underclassman over a senior who had sacrificed so much for the team.  BM deserved to start for the Hogs his senior year....if he stunk it up, bring in BA.

That's where weighting comes into play. Let's take those 12 listed things and weight them for a run-heavy, ball control offense out of 100.

Pocket presence: 8
Mobility in pocket: 6
Mobility out of pocket: 5
Deep ball strength: 4
Deep ball accuracy: 4
Short ball touch: 9
Short ball accuracy: 12
quick release: 8
Reading defense: 15
Limiting turnovers: 15
team leadership: 10
size: 4

Under that, BM would get a score of 72/100 give or take (for example, he gets 6/8 for pocket presence, 10/15 for turnovers, etc...). BA would score an 85.

Such that even though the list is pretty similar on who excels at what, BA excelled more at what Bielema found to be the most important for the type of offense he envisioned that year.

If we were running a read option offense that like to use play action to take shots down the field, then BM would have been an 85 and BA a 72 give or take.
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« Reply #536 on: May 19, 2017, 05:02:36 pm »

That's where weighting comes into play. Let's take those 12 listed things and weight them for a run-heavy, ball control offense out of 100.

Pocket presence: 8
Mobility in pocket: 6
Mobility out of pocket: 5
Deep ball strength: 4
Deep ball accuracy: 4
Short ball touch: 9
Short ball accuracy: 12
quick release: 8
Reading defense: 15
Limiting turnovers: 15
team leadership: 10
size: 4

Under that, BM would get a score of 72/100 give or take (for example, he gets 6/8 for pocket presence, 10/15 for turnovers, etc...). BA would score an 85.

Such that even though the list is pretty similar on who excels at what, BA excelled more at what Bielema found to be the most important for the type of offense he envisioned that year.

If we were running a read option offense that like to use play action to take shots down the field, then BM would have been an 85 and BA a 72 give or take.

Don't totally disagree with your analysis, but still for optics, and a show of loyalty (incoming coach), I would have gone with BM.  It would have appeared that CBB was not only loyal, but fair.  Experience would bring those numbers to about even.  And again, if after 2-3 games, BM wasn't getting it done.....next.  We are great Hog fans and we agree to disagree.

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« Reply #537 on: May 19, 2017, 05:49:38 pm »

I very well could be, and as mentioned, I don't have a problem being wrong. in this case, I hope that I am and that he changed announcement date because he's looking more at the Hogs despite the MSU crystal ball picks flooding in. I'm just saying I've seen it before where it's all about the buildup before committing and signing.
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« Reply #538 on: May 19, 2017, 07:12:42 pm »

Don't totally disagree with your analysis, but still for optics, and a show of loyalty (incoming coach), I would have gone with BM.  It would have appeared that CBB was not only loyal, but fair.  Experience would bring those numbers to about even.  And again, if after 2-3 games, BM wasn't getting it done.....next.  We are great Hog fans and we agree to disagree.

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Disagree on the optics. Starting somebody for the sole reason that they have been there longer despite not being as good a player for your offense as somebody else on the team is bad optics. That's GOBN type stuff. By playing the best player, regardless of seniority, it shows he is willing to win. If it has any impact on recruiting, playing BM over BA would hurt recruiting as players don't think they'll get a fair shake since it wouldn't be a best man wins situation. The the qb who is best able to run the offense, and it being a younger guy possibly helped bring in some of the players we did in 2014, with them knowing that coach will play them if they demonstrate they are good enough.

Benching the qb a few games into the season is a bad look too. Think Spurrier. That hurts both qb's confidence and makes them played scared instead of confident. Hurts team cohesion with the offense lacking the leadership from a consistent qb. Demonstrates fickleness in the coach, a coach who can't make a decision. QB's looking to come here will wonder how short a leash they'll be on. If the receiver tips a well thrown pass and it gets intercepted, will I lose my job to the backup? Perhaps to just be inserted back into the game the first time the other guy makes a mistake? Note that this is a different situation to having an unsettled qb competition where you play both players into the start of the season and then make a decision. Under your scenario, BM would be the declared starter and then benched.
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #539 on: May 19, 2017, 10:20:09 pm »

Only on Hogville.net does a thread about a current recruit turn into an argument about two players who are no longer on the team :-) just sayin
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« Reply #540 on: May 20, 2017, 12:13:11 am »

Only on Hogville.net does a thread about a current recruit turn into an argument about two players who are no longer on the team :-) just sayin
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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #541 on: May 20, 2017, 02:47:48 am »

So... He didn't release his "Top 5" I guess? I'm interested to see who he has in it whenever (if) it's released
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« Reply #542 on: May 20, 2017, 01:19:23 pm »

So... He didn't release his "Top 5" I guess? I'm interested to see who he has in it whenever (if) it's released

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Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
« Reply #544 on: May 20, 2017, 03:58:03 pm »

Hogs
Baylor
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Georgia
Louisville
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« Reply #545 on: May 20, 2017, 04:06:58 pm »

Hogs
Baylor
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Georgia
Louisville

I like our chances since Auburn and Bama aren't in there. Think it will be between us, Louisville, and Miss State.
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« Reply #546 on: May 20, 2017, 04:08:04 pm »

I thought a couple months ago he said Auburn was his dream school now they didn't even make his top 5. I wonder what happened there?
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« Reply #547 on: May 20, 2017, 04:10:28 pm »

Weird Auburn is his dream school but doesn't make the final cut. Guess he's deterred by the other QB commit. The only reason Baylor would be attractive is little competition. How anyone would want to go play for a snake like Freeze and the Ole Miss program is beyond me. Louisville is only there because of their QB right now that won the Heisman. Georgia is a good program, but do they have a good coach? Always seem to underperform, not sure Smart is ready for that role. And they'll always have a top-rated QB prospect. MS State seems to be the biggest threat and likely his leader. Mullen has had a good track record with mobile QBs, it's in the SEC, he has job security and he would have a great chance to go there and start within 2 years. They're not as good a program as Arkansas though, and I think they peaked previous years with Dak. Will be a cellar dweller once again. Hogs may not be much further ahead and struggled to beat the Dawgs while Dak was there, but I do believe UA is moving forward while MSU is regressing. In the end though, I think us already having Noland will push him to MSU.
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« Reply #548 on: May 20, 2017, 04:28:01 pm »

Only on Hogville.net does a thread about a current recruit turn into an argument about two players who are no longer on the team :-) just sayin
lol. true. But Bohanon and Noland are similar in their strengths as BM and BA. I think they are both better than BM and BA , at least both seem , as juniors in high school, like they have higher ceilings. Bohanon is a more beastly physical specimen than BM. Both had a big arm for the long ball, which both tend to 'float' a bit. Noland and BA both have elite, quick releases and high accuracy, but I'd given Noland the edge in 'zip', although BA had some zip, too. Noland fires fastballs on a rope. It's a beautiful sight to see.
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« Reply #549 on: May 21, 2017, 08:08:57 pm »

Baylor and Ole Miss I don't understand.
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