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wupigsuey

December 21, 2014, 10:43:56 am
Quote from: hoglady on December 21, 2014, 10:36:54 am
As long as the NBA continues to allow one and done's we'll never see TEAMS as good as those in the 90's. The best players that should be in college and would have been in the 90's are now on NBA floors.
The NBA is killing the quality of the college game.

and the nba game as well.
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jry04

December 21, 2014, 10:44:54 am #1
Quote from: wupigsuey on December 21, 2014, 10:43:56 am
and the nba game as well.
Although the NBA is more popular now than it has been since the late 80s.
 

wupigsuey

December 21, 2014, 10:50:24 am #2
Quote from: jry04 on December 21, 2014, 10:44:54 am
Although the NBA is more popular now than it has been since the late 80s.

Not sure how you judge popularity, but has been a weak league since Jordan left
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jry04

December 21, 2014, 10:59:06 am #3
Quote from: wupigsuey on December 21, 2014, 10:50:24 am
Not sure how you judge popularity, but has been a weak league since Jordan left
I should revise my original post to say since the mid-90s. I agree with your Jordan statement. However, the tv ratings and attendance to games are higher in the last few years than they have been in about 20 years. There is a lot of great talent in the league. There are not a lot of great teams like you saw in the 80s and 90s, but there is not a lack of individual talent. Too many hate the NBA to admit it, but we have some special players in the league that we may not see that type of talent for another 15-20 years. Steph Curry, Lebron, and Durant to name a few. Steph may be the best shooter of all time when it is all said and done.

hvsupastar

December 21, 2014, 12:17:49 pm #4
The NBA is overall a lot more popular than it was in the Jordan Era. Even though they don't have that one superstar like Jordan was, Kobe and LeBron draw a lot of viewers by comparison.
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ErieHog

December 21, 2014, 12:27:56 pm #5
Quote from: wupigsuey on December 21, 2014, 10:50:24 am
Not sure how you judge popularity, but has been a weak league since Jordan left

Its gone from a league that could barely manage one TV contract on basic networks, to one with a much broader viewership,  a subsidiary league, a special cable network of its own,  and major TV deals with multiple platforms.

The quality of play is arguably as high as it has *ever* been;   almost all NBA critics who promote the line of 'it hasn't been good since Jordan left',  haven't watched it since John Starks was a major figure in the NBA.
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Hawghiggs

December 21, 2014, 01:15:29 pm #6
 I like the NBA more now than I once did. My hope is they do away with the guaranteed contract.

Inhogswetrust

December 23, 2014, 06:57:48 pm #7 Last Edit: December 26, 2014, 05:53:44 pm by Inhogswetrust
Quote from: ErieHog on December 21, 2014, 12:27:56 pm
Its gone from a league that could barely manage one TV contract on basic networks, to one with a much broader viewership, a subsidiary league, a special cable network of its own,  and major TV deals with multiple platforms.

The quality of play is arguably as high as it has *ever* been;   almost all NBA critics who promote the line of 'it hasn't been good since Jordan left',  haven't watched it since John Starks was a major figure in the NBA.

True of a lot of sports due to the proliferation of networks.
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Wildhog

December 23, 2014, 07:01:36 pm #8
I loathe the NBA.
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Hogfaniam

December 23, 2014, 07:07:11 pm #9
Quote from: Wildhog on December 23, 2014, 07:01:36 pm
I loathe the NBA.

If not for the Grizzlies, I couldn't care less.  Those guys are class.
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Dr. Starcs

December 23, 2014, 07:08:13 pm #10
Spurs are arguably the best organization in the nba, if not all professional sports.

HogScoutMaster

December 24, 2014, 09:20:34 am #11
Since Michael has stopped playing, I stopped watching.  Need another Michael
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bigredone

December 24, 2014, 11:19:53 pm #12
Can't  stand the NBA.
 

pigture perfect

December 25, 2014, 02:38:05 am #13
NFL
MLB
NHL
WWE



NBA
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trippigs

December 25, 2014, 11:31:28 am #14
Never watch it......too many thugs, tats and prima-donnas.

ErieHog

December 25, 2014, 12:24:35 pm #15
Quote from: trippigs on December 25, 2014, 11:31:28 am
Never watch it......too many thugs, tats and prima-donnas.

Haven't watched since the late 90s then?

I seriously wonder when the last time some of you people watched an NBA game was.

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Dr. Starcs

December 25, 2014, 02:10:22 pm #16
Agreed Erie. The Spurs have turned some of these old-schoolers into believers.

ErieHog

December 25, 2014, 04:26:09 pm #17
Quote from: Dr. Starcs on December 25, 2014, 02:10:22 pm
Agreed Erie. The Spurs have turned some of these old-schoolers into believers.

Such ugly, selfish,  isolation basketball....









What thuggish,  terrible players.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

December 25, 2014, 04:28:07 pm #18
Quote from: sevenof400 on December 25, 2014, 03:48:44 pm
And the Knicks and Wizards continue to play down to the worst expectations...

Yet, when asked about the 'Golden Ages of Basketball',  people conveniently don't mention the quality of play of the  '86 Kings or   '93 Timberwolves.....
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

husker71

December 25, 2014, 08:13:43 pm #19
I remember when championship game was on tape delay after the news at 1030pm   NBA is more popular now especially around the globe.  I enjoy watching but only if the game really means something

bigredone

December 26, 2014, 09:02:21 am #20
I watched the 30 for 30 about the Bad Boys of Detroit. That was near the end of the real NBA. That was when it was still a team game instead of nothing but one star. I try to watch a little each new season but there is nothing there for me. To be fair the NFL is no better to me.

The college game is getting worse the more NBA like it gets. I like the defense creating offense which is what they are trying to stop with new rules and interpretations.

ErieHog

December 26, 2014, 10:17:51 am #21
Quote from: bigredone on December 26, 2014, 09:02:21 am
I watched the 30 for 30 about the Bad Boys of Detroit. That was near the end of the real NBA. That was when it was still a team game instead of nothing but one star. I try to watch a little each new season but there is nothing there for me. To be fair the NFL is no better to me.

The college game is getting worse the more NBA like it gets. I like the defense creating offense which is what they are trying to stop with new rules and interpretations.

What?

The NBA has rarely been more team oriented than it is now.    This isn't 2001.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

husker71

December 27, 2014, 11:58:32 am #22
Erie is right   and LeBron is one of the most "team" players around   if you surrounded him with shooters and scorers he would lead the NBA in assists like Wilt did one year   By the way Erie remember when I said Shabazz was a wasted draft choice by the Wolves and you hotly disagreed    well you were right he is becoming a really good wing player.

ErieHog

December 27, 2014, 03:07:07 pm #23
Quote from: husker71 on December 27, 2014, 11:58:32 am
Erie is right   and LeBron is one of the most "team" players around   if you surrounded him with shooters and scorers he would lead the NBA in assists like Wilt did one year   By the way Erie remember when I said Shabazz was a wasted draft choice by the Wolves and you hotly disagreed    well you were right he is becoming a really good wing player.

Your memory is better than mine, if you remember me defending a pretty sketchy, in hindsight, pick.    I was sold on his upside, I guess-- but that's more a case of being lucky, than right, TBH.  I'll still take it, though!






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