Robb Smith Wasn't The Problem

[rhames]

Yeah but 629 yards to Auburn? That's bad.

I'm not advocating he is the best DC in the country. I'm saying it is silly to say Enos is faulted because he is handcuffed but the new coach installing a new scheme doesn't get a pass


None of them will be here in 6 weeks.

[onebadrubi]

I understand Rhoads has the Hogs working out on a 1-3 defense.  Should be good.

You really should read more and post less.  You only want to point fingers to point, you don't even know what's going on.   It's already been said, that play was on some position assistants that called for line changes, Pr made a game adjustment after that.   Do what you are blaming in him there wasn't his fault and he fixed it. 

Ironically, I wasn't sold on PR when people wanted him last year, but it appears we won't see his idea of a defense anyways. 

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

Willie Robinson wasn't the problem either.

At some point the Jimmy's and Joes gotta take accountability

[hawgdavis]

Wher

So Enos is handcuffed but not Rhodes?

Rhodes is a good coach. He he installing a new defense that has an offense that can't stay on the field.

Where did you get that pic of my girlfriend?

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

Yeah. That's a mess. But I'm not sure the authority the defensive coordinator has when it comes to calling a time out.

Why hasn't Bielema been raked over the coals for not noticing that? He should have had the awareness to know the substitution and call TO, or maybe one of the players on the field should have called TO.

Just piss poor preparation, situational awareness is not of a D1 level.

Worst Razorback coach of my lifetime

[snoot hoggy hog]

Everybody that's posting on here now was calling for Robb Smith's head last season. Are you saying that CBB tricked everybody? Yeah right. Once again, Arkansas biggest problem is our delusional fans. If it was up to ya'll we would change coaches like we change drawers....wait, I forgot who I was talking to.

[Temprees]

Everybody that's posting on here now was calling for Robb Smith's head last season. Are you saying that CBB tricked everybody? Yeah right. Once again, Arkansas biggest problem is our delusional fans. If it was up to ya'll we would change coaches like we change drawers....wait, I forgot who I was talking to.

You do realize that our defense is not any better this year don't you?

[snoot hoggy hog]

You do realize that our defense is not any better this year don't you?

Soooo was Robb Smith the problem? If not then why was everyone saying he needs to be fired?

[PorkRinds]

Smith didn't give up them yards, them non SEC caliber players gave up 600 yards and 34 Touchdowns, that Butter Bean  recruited..

Smith didn't recruit them too?

[TexasRazorback]

Rhoads is a train wreck.

Bielema is the train wreck

[HogSlop84]

Smith didn't recruit them too?

it all comes down to the head coach, the assistant goes  after the players the head coach wants.

[tbhogfan]

His first year here Arkansas had a top 10 defense. Many people though it was only because Flowers, Philon, and Spaight in his front 7. Apparently, it wasn't a fluke. Minnesota currently has a top 25 defense under Robb Smith. We have a new DC, new position coaches, new defensive scheme, and new players. That means that the REAL problem must be the one thing that never changed, the head coach.

I'm beginning to think that our main problem is in conditioning.  Seems we're much more interested in getting guys looking like the cover of Muscle and Fitness Magazine, and not getting them into the physical condition needed to play well in the second half of football games.  Robb Smith has been successful everywhere but here, as had Rhodes, so we need to look at other factors as well. 

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

correct, and no, he wasn't....   think....!   who has had ultimate and consistent power and control, for several decades.........

Who has had power for several decades? I don't know man Ive only been around for a couple myself

[Tusks]

So how did Grantham step into MSU and make them a great defense

[twistitup]

Maybe RS wasn't the problem....but I don't think he was part of the solution either.

[HogSlop84]

So how did Grantham step into MSU and make them a great defense

Miss St has always had a stout D..

[Tusks]

Miss St has always had a pretty stout D..

So it was coaching?  they had the players but bad coaching?  I don't remember them being better than the Hogs on D until BB got to the hill.

[ballz2thewall]

here's what we know.....

under smith we had some good defense. we had some awful defense.
under rhodes we have an awful defense.

both are awful in similar ways.

among the two numerators, what is the common denominator?

EDIT: i kicked rob smith at first. then, after thinking backwards on the games and the progression, i came to the conclusion prior to smiths departure that the problem was cbb, aka "the uncommon denominator".

[Tusks]

Grantham took MSU defense from 110 to 8th.  In the last 10 years MSU never had a top 25 D.  They were usually around the Hogs.

[HogSlop84]

So it was coaching?  they had the players but bad coaching?  I don't remember them being better than the Hogs on D until BB got to the hill.

2006 was the best d the Hogs had in loooooooooong time.. Miss St has always been better in that department then Hogs.

[presidenthog]

No I said Rhoads just sucks as a coach.  I never said he was or wasn't handcuffed. Enos is the one that's handcuffed.

The defense is the only side of the ball that I've seen actually come out to play in multiple games.they just give up after the 3 and out fest your boy enos calls an offense.

Disclaimer: I like both coordinators. I just think the team has quit on thier fat boss.

[DLUXHOG]

Frank is gone.

You're thinking too simplistic.... it isn't and wasn't Frank.............. Think......

[East Clintwood]

Fine time to fine all this out.

The evidence has been out there for a long time for anybody to discover.  However, once someone figures it out, they really can't do anything with it.

You really can't buck the company line around here.  If you come here nicely and try to debunk the Hogville establishment, you get repeatedly shouted down and made fun of to the point that you eventually give up,

If you forget the nice, timid approach and try you own shouting against the common belief, Wilson or someone else will ban you.

Only after a very large number of posters (and moderators) begins to question the previous commonly held beliefs, can you post contrary information safely.

What I'm saying is that if you Bert was the problem 3 or 4 years ago, you really couldn't spread that information effectively.  You just had to grin and bear it.

[From Tusk Till Dawn]

The HC is ultimately responsible for the entire team.  But he takes it to another level.  It is clear he has single handedly interfered with every player recruited, every position coach's responsibilities, every play called, and every singular players development.  Shanked field goal-Bielemas fault, Interception- Bielemas fault, injury-Bielemas fault.  He has got to be exhausted being spread so thin.

[PorkSoda]

So Enos is handcuffed but not Rhodes?

Rhodes is a good coach. He he installing a new defense that has an offense that can't stay on the field.

right, the Offense gets a pass for being anemic, but the defense sucks, never mind that the they are on the field the whole game.

[jgphillips3]

A lot of people still seem to miss how much of an impact upon the 2014 defense Randy Shannon had.  I think, as much as the NFL 3, his loss was just as impactful.

[PorkRinds]

it all comes down to the head coach, the assistant goes  after the players the head coach wants.

I see you're not sure how this thing works.

[hogcard1964]

The evidence has been out there for a long time for anybody to discover.  However, once someone figures it out, they really can't do anything with it.

You really can't buck the company line around here.  If you come here nicely and try to debunk the Hogville establishment, you get repeatedly shouted down and made fun of to the point that you eventually give up,

If you forget the nice, timid approach and try you own shouting against the common belief, Wilson or someone else will ban you.

Only after a very large number of posters (and moderators) begins to question the previous commonly held beliefs, can you post contrary information safely.

What I'm saying is that if you Bert was the problem 3 or 4 years ago, you really couldn't spread that information effectively.  You just had to grin and bear it.

+1000

I agree with this.  I was literally banned for stating the fact that Nutter was a better coach than Butters sometime last year.  It was something like a 21 day ban.

[BoogaHog]

I'm beginning to think that our main problem is in conditioning.  Seems we're much more interested in getting guys looking like the cover of Muscle and Fitness Magazine, and not getting them into the physical condition needed to play well in the second half of football games.  Robb Smith has been successful everywhere but here, as had Rhodes, so we need to look at other factors as well.

You are 100% accurate, sir.  I worked out with a couple of the higher profile players this summer and they had to stop at fewer than five minutes into the workout.  I was right there beside them doing the same (I'm 52 with a torn meniscus).  I fear that their is a lack of focus on speed, agility, quickness, muscular endurance and cardio).  My son (a UA student, kickboxer, and grappler) was going to sign up for 4th Quarter and it was not offered in the course selection any longer.

Body Building not equal to Functional Fitness

[nwahogfan1]

His first year here Arkansas had a top 10 defense. Many people though it was only because Flowers, Philon, and Spaight in his front 7. Apparently, it wasn't a fluke. Minnesota currently has a top 25 defense under Robb Smith. We have a new DC, new position coaches, new defensive scheme, and new players. That means that the REAL problem must be the one thing that never changed, the head coach.

not sure hr is a good recruiter but apparently he can coach.  do you think its beliema?  lol

[Davidr295]

Santos, Curl, and Toliver have impressed me actually, the rest not so much.

Santos has been horrible. Half of the big plays we have given up this year are because of him taking bad angles and getting beat.

[hawg1221]

When you lack speed and you don't play smart, you're in trouble.

[AirWarren]

Not really. He and Enos are the best coaches on the staff.

Just because he is jumping around, hollering and interacting with his players doesn't mean he is a good coach.


We had a saying in the hospital. Run around like you're head is on fire all the time. Never look bored. Because people will think you're slammed and working hard even if you're not. People will leave you alone and not try to dump assignments on you.

[pigskenG]

I'd be willing to bet we play more walk ons, current or former, than any other team in the SEC.
Not every kid is going to turn out to be a Burlsworth. We need to recruit much better. Been this way for years.
In 2005, we signed Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, still finished #26 in the country recruiting.
I think we need to finish this year recruiting only OL, DL, LB & Safeties. Maybe next year too.

[jimmur74]

Its called lack of talent

Robb smith is awful, let Dak have 600 yards total offense against us one game, gave up 34 rushing touchdowns last year. Dude was not good.