Long wouldn't fire Bret, so they fired him

[jmark]

i'll tell you what happened.. doesnt matter now.. Long lost the job when he was told by jerry jones that he'd pay the buyout and he wanted to help find a new coach.  And Long basically said to jerry  "who said i am getting rid of Bielema?? and who says i need your help?"  Thats when the movement to get rid of Long went into overdrive.  Long should have been watching his back at that point.  Because any and every excuse whether it comes out or not was gonna be used to get rid of him.  And, looks like they settled on one that stuck.  bye bye Long.. 

i may have to become a dallas cowboy fan

[LZH]

I am not so sure about that. When Bielma got here, he either failed to tell Jeff that he had been in rehab with a drinking problem or, he did tell him and promised him he was through with the bottle and all would be well. I think Jeff has been royally pissed at Bielma for quite some time but didn't want to fire him because he wants everyone to believe in this stability idea.

Jeff put his little boy parts on the line for Bobby during that week he gave Bobby a chance to return, knowing full well of what all had happened. And now he has done the same for Bielma and it is blowing up in his face. Long may have been ready to go on his own for sometime now, who knows. Guess we will find out in an hour or so.

[rljjr]

the Pirate said he'd come.  He will 100% be out of Wazzou this year. Would be a great fit for us. Certainly better fit than Gus with all his built in divisiveness.

Do you have one small, tiny morsel to support this claim? I think it's complete Hogwash. We need somebody younger and hungrier, and Leach hasn't won anything anywhere he's ever been. His team's have not been known for playing defense. There are better options out there. But that's my opinion.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

https://twitter.com/swaggysteve17/status/930819782055735297

[elksnort]

No, there's not more than that.  Stop believing stupid message board BS planted by prj and his roving band of shills for the GOBN.

Do you work for Long? I guess you can't answer, but I am just curious.

[HogFoo]

I am not so sure about that. When Bielma got here, he either failed to tell Jeff that he had been in rehab with a drinking problem or, he did tell him and promised him he was through with the bottle and all would be well. I think Jeff has been royally pissed at Bielma for quite some time but didn't want to fire him because he wants everyone to believe in this stability idea.

Jeff put his little boy parts on the line for Bobby during that week he gave Bobby a chance to return, knowing full well of what all had happened. And now he has done the same for Bielma and it is blowing up in his face. Long may have been ready to go on his own for sometime now, who knows. Guess we will find out in an hour or so.

Actaully, that was an idea i had heard was being tossed around to get rid of Bielema without paying the buyout.  was using a similar type clause related to his drinking.  i was even told that he has bad health.  you can look at him and see how red his face is, that he is an alcoholic.  that's obvious.  Of course, Anderson is his big drinking buddy.  probably explains why he hasnt been fired yet too.  haha.. but, oh well.. on to brighter things now, like, perhaps hopefully, a winning team!  And something to look forward too, like going to a bowl!   Or perhaps someone who will not play favorites with players, and someone who maybe will hire great recruiters, or when some leave, maybe replace them with an equal or better recruiter!  ya know, just things a winner does.  Keeps winners around him.   

[Hogeration]

A lot more than that, it will all come out eventually.

Are you sure?  Reporting a $4.5m buyout for Long.  If you got something on someone, you don't give them that much money to go away.

[Ex-Trumpet]

I have one question. Who's going to walk the big donor through the A before game?

I'm coming up for the game...let me know if I need to bring a tie.

[elksnort]

He lost the job when he said that winning wasn't a priority.  I know it's a play on words, but football is a win at all costs sport and when you state that you aren't interested in winning at all costs then it basically means that you aren't willing to do what it takes to win.. which Razorback football has been a shining example of over the last 5 years.

Do we want to get in trouble by the NCAA?  Absolutely not, but it doesn't mean that we can't bend a little bit here and there.  Do you think LSU, Alabama, Auburn don't bend the rules a little from time to time?  Do you thinking the Patriots have been squeaky clean while they won all their Super Bowls?  Do you thinking Jimmy Johnson was always sparkling clean?  NO.  You have to be willing to brave and take some chances to win, Long didn't want to do this and the results on the field speak for themselves.

Very good post.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Are you sure?  Reporting a $4.5m buyout for Long.  If you got something on someone, you don't give them that much money to go away.

Depends.  If it's bad PR for UA then $4.5m may be the cheap way out.

[Grizzlyfan]

Depends.  If it's bad PR for UA then $4.5m may be the cheap way out.

If there is something that bad it will come out.

[elksnort]

So, something 99% of the posters here seemed to want to happen, Long being fired, appears to have happened, so now said posters are going to argue about the reason Long was fired............................

Yes, and you are following along to sensor it.

[jkstock04]

Man, stop lying.

Leach was never going to be our coach.

this is Jeff Long refusing to cut Bielema loose before his 6 years (promised) was up.  The GOBN is using this to make a power play Hog fans are falling right in it.

You have been dead wrong about everything from the get go. I love to see you on here still spouting your hate...just twisting in the wind with "I've been wrong about everything" tattooed to your face.

[LRrazorback]

i'll tell you what happened.. doesnt matter now.. Long lost the job when he was told by jerry jones that he'd pay the buyout and he wanted to help find a new coach.  And Long basically said to jerry  "who said i am getting rid of Bielema?? and who says i need your help?"  Thats when the movement to get rid of Long went into overdrive.  Long should have been watching his back at that point.  Because any and every excuse whether it comes out or not was gonna be used to get rid of him.  And, looks like they settled on one that stuck.  bye bye Long.. 

This^^^

[Deep Shoat]

Are you sure?  Reporting a $4.5m buyout for Long.  If you got something on someone, you don't give them that much money to go away.

DING DING DING DING!

[Mr Jade]

Where is this magical 4.5 coming from? Long's contract was not extended.

[snoblind]

Man, stop lying.

Leach was never going to be our coach.

this is Jeff Long refusing to cut Bielema loose before his 6 years (promised) was up.  The GOBN is using this to make a power play Hog fans are falling right in it.

Leach is PIP's deal, but you're wrong - there were/are other issues.  Watching you folks who kept saying nothing will happen twist in the wind is amusing.

[Deep Shoat]

You have been dead wrong about everything from the get go. I love to see you on here still spouting your hate...just twisting in the wind with "I've been wrong about everything" tattooed to your face.

Dude, all I've ever asked people for was intellectual honesty.  I think most of you wouldn't know good football if it bit you in the ass, though.  So you can't be honest.  You all claim "just win" but what you mean is "just throw the ball enough and score a lot of points while we lose 76-74". 

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

[ChicoHog]

Yep. Even his new "super secret (lol) home run hire" couldnt save him. Maybe Leach was asked and said, "I'll come with or without Jeffie" LMAO!!! Im still on cloud 9 regardless. I havent even suffered these last 6 weeks. I've been just basking in the glory of knowing Fatty is gone and a beast coach is incoming. Now that Long got wrecked, too, and it's all back in the air, Hell, Im STILL super stoked b/c NO MATTER WHAT we will get-

Leach or Gus or Norvell or Venables . List wont be longer than that. BE HAPPY BAWZ.

2 of those I like-Venables and norvell, 1 I can tolerate-Malzahn.  If they hire leach they just lost my donation.  No friggin way!!

[Deep Shoat]

Where is this magical 4.5 coming from? Long's contract was not extended.

Contract is not up until 2022.

[DeltaBoy]

Dude, all I've ever asked people for was intellectual honesty.  I think most of you wouldn't know good football if it bit you in the ass, though.  So you can't be honest.  You all claim "just win" but what you mean is "just throw the ball enough and score a lot of points while we lose 76-74". 

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

It great day to be a Hog fan , That nasty Yankee is gone.

[Ex-Trumpet]

If there is something that bad it will come out.

Maybe, but it probably won't be confirmed...just rumors.  And they go away.  Kinda like SMU and they turned out alright! 

[Michael D Huff AIA]

its that simple.

Is it deeper than that? 

What if the firing of Bielema was a forgone conclusion but Long wouldn't agree to hire (or try to hire) the guy the BOT wanted? 

[forrest city joe]

its that simple.

Does not matter to me. i wanted them both gone.so it all worked out.fresh start for everyone.

[Danimal]

Wonder what kind of power plays will be going on up on the hill for the next couple of weeks.

More like the next several years if Malzahn's brought in as coach..

[Ex-Trumpet]

More like the next several years if Malzahn's brought in as coach..

Good.  Iron sharpens iron.

[Danimal]

Is it deeper than that? 

What if the firing of Bielema was a forgone conclusion but Long wouldn't agree to hire (or try to hire) the guy the BOT wanted?

Good point, and one of the things that concerns me (Gus)..

[forrest city joe]

So, something 99% of the posters here seemed to want to happen, Long being fired, appears to have happened, so now said posters are going to argue about the reason Long was fired............................

Not me. Long is fired as he should be.and coach B needs to be the next one fired.WINNING IN FOOTBALL MATTERS!

[elksnort]

Dude, all I've ever asked people for was intellectual honesty.  I think most of you wouldn't know good football if it bit you in the ass, though.  So you can't be honest.  You all claim "just win" but what you mean is "just throw the ball enough and score a lot of points while we lose 76-74". 

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

You are likely correct on your post, EXCEPT for "he improved Razorback sports".

CMA was a no brainer. DVH was here already, right? The other sports are holding serve and maybe some better.

BUT

Football is king and the king is has been fat, drunk, dumb and limping badly.

[CiriusPorker]

Actaully, that was an idea i had heard was being tossed around to get rid of Bielema without paying the buyout.  was using a similar type clause related to his drinking.  i was even told that he has bad health.  you can look at him and see how red his face is, that he is an alcoholic.  that's obvious.  Of course, Anderson is his big drinking buddy.  probably explains why he hasnt been fired yet too.  haha.. but, oh well.. on to brighter things now, like, perhaps hopefully, a winning team!  And something to look forward too, like going to a bowl!   Or perhaps someone who will not play favorites with players, and someone who maybe will hire great recruiters, or when some leave, maybe replace them with an equal or better recruiter!  ya know, just things a winner does.  Keeps winners around him.   

They wouldn't want to use the alcoholism because it's a very gray area in regards to it being a protected health condition.  it would have to be blatant use on company time, that interfered with his ability to perform his work functions or poorly represented the UofA (not a lawyer, but understand how it works)

[forrest city joe]

You are likely correct on your post, EXCEPT for "he improved Razorback sports".

CMA was a no brainer. DVH was here already, right? The other sports are holding serve and maybe some better.

BUT

Football is king and the king is has been fat, drunk, dumb and limping badly.

The bottom line to all of this. the last the reminace of John White is gone.and that's a good thing.

[Tony Perkis]

Where did the Bielema was in rehab stuff come from? And when? I think I missed that one.

[LZH]

Actaully, that was an idea i had heard was being tossed around to get rid of Bielema without paying the buyout.  was using a similar type clause related to his drinking.  i was even told that he has bad health.  you can look at him and see how red his face is, that he is an alcoholic.  that's obvious.  Of course, Anderson is his big drinking buddy.  probably explains why he hasnt been fired yet too.  haha.. but, oh well.. on to brighter things now, like, perhaps hopefully, a winning team!  And something to look forward too, like going to a bowl!   Or perhaps someone who will not play favorites with players, and someone who maybe will hire great recruiters, or when some leave, maybe replace them with an equal or better recruiter!  ya know, just things a winner does.  Keeps winners around him.   

Well I wasn't suggesting that BB be fired for alcoholism, more along the lines that Jeff has stuck up for him and BB has continued to run further off into the ditch. His record alone is enough to get him fired.

[Pigdiana Jones]

Best day in a long time! Pun intended

[Deep Shoat]

Where did the Bielema was in rehab stuff come from? And when? I think I missed that one.

Hogville made it up...

[Pigdiana Jones]

Dude, all I've ever asked people for was intellectual honesty.  I think most of you wouldn't know good football if it bit you in the ass, though.  So you can't be honest.  You all claim "just win" but what you mean is "just throw the ball enough and score a lot of points while we lose 76-74". 

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

Whatever

[razorbackfaninar]

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

I have to say I think this is a good assessment and I think the fan base may be cheering right now, but I am afraid we are well and truly screwed. 

[elksnort]

are you talking about the program or the coach?

The football program. It does not make me fell good about calling him names. Hell, I am 20lbs over weight and I like to drink.

[PorkRinds]

Dude, all I've ever asked people for was intellectual honesty.  I think most of you wouldn't know good football if it bit you in the ass, though.  So you can't be honest.  You all claim "just win" but what you mean is "just throw the ball enough and score a lot of points while we lose 76-74". 

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

He's right, you know.  Be careful what you Wish for.

[Karma]

the Pirate said he'd come.  He will 100% be out of Wazzou this year. Would be a great fit for us. Certainly better fit than Gus with all his built in divisiveness.

You have to be elated that Long was fired and bails you out of your "Leach was already hired" nonsense.

[Paul]

Nope, not the reason.

throw us a bone.  does it have to do with perceived private use of UA jets?

[JOKERHOG]

https://youtu.be/3umaLe37-LE

Love it

[JOKERHOG]

Dude, all I've ever asked people for was intellectual honesty.  I think most of you wouldn't know good football if it bit you in the ass, though.  So you can't be honest.  You all claim "just win" but what you mean is "just throw the ball enough and score a lot of points while we lose 76-74". 

Everything I've ever said about Jeff Long has been true.  He FOUGHT to keep Petrino.  Went to the mat for him.  Petrino's refusal to STOP LYING is what got him fired.

He promised Bret 6 years because of the absolute steaming pile he was walking into.  The buyout everyone gets so verclempt about was his way of proving it.

Jeff Long has improved Razorback sports.  He's hired the biggest "name" coaches Arkansas has ever hired.  He's raised more money and built more facilities and ushered in an era of prosperity we've never imagined before.  He's considered a top AD nationally for a reason.

The failures of the two coaches he hired, one morally the other on the field, are not his fault and he is now paying for them because the GOBN wants there power and access back.

Glad you guys got what you wanted.  The people who destroyed the program to begin with are back in charge.

Total BS, I don't even have to pick a section of this post.  You don't know what you are talking about

[Mike Irwin]

its that simple.

No it is not that simple. There were a bunch of reasons. At no point did he tell anyone that he would not consider firing Bret Bielema. It never got to that point. They didn't want him hiring Bielema's replacement. In the coming weeks you will see big changes in the athletic deapartment and I'm not just talking about a new AD and a new head football coach.

[isavedjazz]

More than just that. Until the past two years Long had done a pretty great job. The way he has handled this football season couldnt have helped. He has been hiding from the media for months... He was in over his head this year

[Jimbob111]

No. It isn't. He's done something we don't know about yet to get fired.

You mean something besides circumventing the hiring process as a favor to Petrino then firing Petrino for the hire?  I NEVER understood how he got out of that one unscathed.

[EastexHawg]

Watching you folks who kept saying nothing will happen twist in the wind is amusing.

Yep.  I'm not interested in retribution, but it wasn't just a matter of people saying nothing would happen.  It was more like anyone who suggested it would was an idiot and they were the geniuses, indignantly pointing out the stupidity of those who even mentioned such things.

[woodhog14]

No it is not that simple. There were a bunch of reasons. At no point did he tell anyone that he would not consider firing Bret Bielema. It never got to that point. They didn't want him hiring Bielema's replacement. In the coming weeks you will see big changes in the athletic deapartment and I'm not just talking about a new AD and a new head football coach.

This is exactly what happened when he left Pittsburgh. They went back to many things they did previously. Jeff changed thier "brand" and logo...now they have changed back to their old logo because fans were ticked that Jeff Long changed it.

[ThisTeetsTaken]

No it is not that simple. There were a bunch of reasons. At no point did he tell anyone that he would not consider firing Bret Bielema. It never got to that point. They didn't want him hiring Bielema's replacement. In the coming weeks you will see big changes in the athletic deapartment and I'm not just talking about a new AD and a new head football coach.

Are you saying Worf Hog is going away?  Tickets without donations?  Do tell. 

[LZH]

Hogville made it up...

It's not a huge secret anymore.....try to keep up, buddy.