Hootie did it .....

[Inhogswetrust]

Settling this would not clear his name. Allowing it to play out and completely discrediting Ole Miss is the end game. He wants to coach again and that, perhaps only in his mind, is why he wants a clean bill.

His bill will never be cleaned...............It was already soiled before all this.

[Sivad]

His bill will never be cleaned...............It was already soiled before all this.

Nutt's whole claim is:
I cheated but Hugh Freeze cheated more and he blamed all the cheating on me.

[Tusks]

You don't really believe Hooty got Frank fired do you? Surely you are smarter than that.

He may not have gotten JFB directly fired but he sure as shootin got him escorted out the door maybe a year or two early than he other wise would have.  JFB had one foot out the door, hootie's antics ust helped give him a little push.

[Tusks]

you know this thread reminds me of what it was like to have hooten dale as coach.  it was ALWAYS fricken something and that something wasn't about winning games.

[Justifiable Hogicide]

SEC Media Days 2017

[KlubhouseKonnected]

We salute you Mr. Overly conservative egotistical football coach...

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35vgpt

Still love this...

That chit is way too homo for Gus Malzahn... you can practically hear the editor beating it in the background

[KlubhouseKonnected]

What keeps Houston Nutt from getting a job is losing to 1-AA teams, losing 12 straight conference games, and getting his last two bosses fired. You can now add to that list, "suing your former employer." I mean, who wouldn't want to hire that guy, amirite?

Seriously, the guy has a losing record to both Vandy and Kentucky (2-4 against both all time).

Maybe Ole Miss should file a motion to make the lawsuit a conference game. You know Nutt isn't going to win many of those.

Well done

[oldgoat]

Houston Nutt, the Trojan Horse.

[HamSammich]

Well guys I'm not a Nutt fan really. But not really a hater. I tried to post this once in this thread but the Nutt antifa crowd wants to throw rocks and firebombs anyway.


I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT NUTT WAS OFFERED A JOB IN NEw MEXICO AND also IN CONNETICUT. From rumors , I can't substantiate, I believe he has been offered three other jobs.


Your guys hateful blind untrue narrative is unbelievable.... it really is. Well actually this  is hogville, I believe it.


Nutt was the mop up guy for a VERY under appreciated Danny ford. As some new schmuck will reap what I believe to be incredible talent that CBB identified and brought in.



History is a bitch. It repeats.

[LZH]

I'm gonna throw this out there. Wouldn't the burden of proof be on Nutt that Ole Miss intentionally caused him not to get another P5 job by purposefully doing his reputation harm?

If so, that's a long shot imo. I mean how is he gonna prove anything without implicating himself in some of this mess?

[Inhogswetrust]

I'm gonna throw this out there. Wouldn't the burden of proof be on Nutt that Ole Miss intentionally caused him not to get another P5 job by purposefully doing his reputation harm?

If so, that's a long shot imo. I mean how is he gonna prove anything without implicating himself in some of this mess?

Perhaps those players at old misses that he put on his board as "untrustable" could sue him for harming their reputation...............................

[LZH]

Perhaps those players at old misses that he put on his board as "untrustable" could sue him for harming their reputation...............................

No kidding.

One thing is for sure, the stunt that Petrino pulled here was pretty bad - and it could surely be said that Jeff Long's dismissal speech didn't do Bobby's reputation any favors. But his (very public) firing damn sure didn't prevent HIM from getting another big gig.

[PonderinHog]

No kidding.

One thing is for sure, the stunt that Petrino pulled here was pretty bad - and it could surely be said that Jeff Long's dismissal speech didn't do Bobby's reputation any favors. But his (very public) firing damn sure didn't prevent HIM from getting another big gig.

Yeah, but Louisville isn't exactly Long on Integrity when it comes to coaching hires.   

[MuskogeeHogFan]

No kidding.

One thing is for sure, the stunt that Petrino pulled here was pretty bad - and it could surely be said that Jeff Long's dismissal speech didn't do Bobby's reputation any favors. But his (very public) firing damn sure didn't prevent HIM from getting another big gig.

Nobody ever said that Petrino wasn't a great coach...we all knew that he was going to have to pay his dues for a little while and then would get back to a bigger job. But HDN? Surely everyone realizes how much he underachieved with the talent that fell into his lap while at Arkansas. A good coach doesn't make that mistake.

[Snorts]

I'm gonna throw this out there. Wouldn't the burden of proof be on Nutt that Ole Miss intentionally caused him not to get another P5 job by purposefully doing his reputation harm?

If so, that's a long shot imo. I mean how is he gonna prove anything without implicating himself in some of this mess?

From what some lawyer types on this board have said, the suit isn't about that.  It is about Ole Piss violating the severance agreement by claiming all the violations were on other sports, or, and this is the kicker, on previous coaches.  They went public with that, violating the agreement.

Looks like HDN has a case.  He timed it beautifully. 

Really, fellas and ladies, I am no HDN fan.  I used to be a pretty vocal critic, mostly based on his refusal to be the HC and drop the ridiculous obsession with being the OC and "calling plays" that worked to the detriment of the rest of the program.  Can anyone say kicking game foibles?

Anyway, when I retired from the National Guard, fellow soldiers got a friend that worked at the Ole Piss front office to tell Nutt that I was a huge fan and was retiring.  It was for a gag at my expense but Hootie didn't know it.  He sent a box of Ole Piss memorabilia to me, signed it all, for someone he never met, in appreciation for my service.  A very nice gesture, and something he didn't have to do.

Its hard for me to work up much animosity now, you know whut ah mean?  Against Nutt, I mean.  I can work up a ton of animosity towards Ole Piss at the drop of a hat.

[GuvHog]

He may not have gotten JFB directly fired but he sure as shootin got him escorted out the door maybe a year or two early than he other wise would have.  JFB had one foot out the door, hootie's antics ust helped give him a little push.

I really don't believe Hooty had anything to do with Frank deciding to retire. I believe it had everything to do with the fact that Jim Lindsey left the BOT. Lindsey was Frank's biggest and most loyal supporter. Without Lindsey on the BOT, Frank's support was weakened dramatically. Frank's advanced age was a factor too.

[HoggieStyle]

If Ole Miss has an attorney that matriculated at Vanderbilt, Nutt has no chance.

[wildhogman]

Well guys I'm not a Nutt fan really. But not really a hater. I tried to post this once in this thread but the Nutt antifa crowd wants to throw rocks and firebombs anyway.


I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT NUTT WAS OFFERED A JOB IN NEw MEXICO AND also IN CONNETICUT. From rumors , I can't substantiate, I believe he has been offered three other jobs.


Your guys hateful blind untrue narrative is unbelievable.... it really is. Well actually this  is hogville, I believe it.


Nutt was the mop up guy for a VERY under appreciated Danny ford. As some new schmuck will reap what I believe to be incredible talent that CBB identified and brought in.



History is a bitch. It repeats.

You are correct in the history part. too bad your point will be lost on people blinded by hatred of a coach who is trying to destroy an enemy. Maybe ol Hootie will do all the SEC a favor in this one

[hawgon]

He has a pretty good defamation case too if the allegations are correct.  Ole Miss intentionally lied about him with something they knew would be harmful to his professional reputation.  And it would appear that journalists are willing to name names and tell secrets about what Freeze and others told them.

[Porked Tongue]

HDN was in Fayetteville last night at a Dine for Dementia event.

[longtimeHogfan]

Browsing one of Old Myth's message boards I saw something that made me go hmmm.....   Hootie was fired in 2011.  The so-called 'smear' campaign started in 2016.  So what's his excuse for not landing a job for the first five years?  Could it be he sucks as a coach and everybody knows it now?  Jus' sayin'......

[oldhawg]

You are correct in the history part. too bad your point will be lost on people blinded by hatred of a coach who is trying to destroy an enemy. Maybe ol Hootie will do all the SEC a favor in this one

By remaining in the public eye (justifiably or not), Nutt drags up memories among some Arkansas fans of his tenure as the Razorback coach.  Unfortunately for him, Nutt poisoned the waters while he was at Arkansas, and  many of those memories about him are not so pleasant.  A lot of people might like to keep it under wraps in the past, but as  long as he continues to insert himself into the public eye, folks are going to be reminded of his shenanigans at Arkansas rather than his accomplishments.  It really could have been soooo different for him had he played his cards a little differently.

Its like telling you to forget about your ex-wife who was self-centered, mistreated your kids, and always had eyes for the dollar sign.  But she still shows up publicly, flaunts her over over-inflated ego, and inspires thoughts of the bad times you had in your relationship with her.  You just want her to go away, but she seems to always be there.

But is essence I agree, time to move on from that era.

[Soooie21]

This guy was pretty good..Kramer didn't listen to him..

[Inhogswetrust]

Nobody ever said that Petrino wasn't a great coach...we all knew that he was going to have to pay his dues for a little while and then would get back to a bigger job. But HDN? Surely everyone realizes how much he underachieved with the talent that fell into his lap while at Arkansas. A good coach doesn't make that mistake.

It wasn't just underachieving with the talent he had but also all the off the field and non game related stuff. Those were huge mistakes for nutty. Some people don't realize just how important that is in any high job much less one as public as a college head coach.

[GuvHog]

It wasn't just underachieving with the talent he had but also all the off the field and non game related stuff. Those were huge mistakes for nutty. Some people don't realize just how important that is in any high job much less one as public as a college head coach.

No doubt. It wasn't Hooty's record that cost him his job as head Hog, it was his off of the field antics.

[Inhogswetrust]

No doubt. It wasn't Hooty's record that cost him his job as head Hog, it was his off of the field antics.

Either one is bad enough by itself, yet with only one of them a coach might survive a little while, but inconsistent on the field and stupidity off the field is not a good combination for a coach.................................

[hog.goblin]

"It's not revenge he's after, it's a reckoning "

I like it...

[onebadrubi]

No kidding.

One thing is for sure, the stunt that Petrino pulled here was pretty bad - and it could surely be said that Jeff Long's dismissal speech didn't do Bobby's reputation any favors. But his (very public) firing damn sure didn't prevent HIM from getting another big gig.

Lol you obviously don't understand what's going on here and showing your agenda and bias by trying to draw a conclusion between the two situations. 

Long is in no way wrong for his termination speech.

[Wildhog]

Either one is bad enough by itself, yet with only one of them a coach might survive a little while, but inconsistent on the field and stupidity off the field is not a good combination for a coach.................................

Wait.  You're saying that HDN's record was bad enough to get him fired by itself?

[Großer Kriegschwein]

What keeps Houston Nutt from getting a job is losing to 1-AA teams, losing 12 straight conference games, and getting his last two bosses fired. You can now add to that list, "suing your former employer." I mean, who wouldn't want to hire that guy, amirite?

Seriously, the guy has a losing record to both Vandy and Kentucky (2-4 against both all time).

Maybe Ole Miss should file a motion to make the lawsuit a conference game. You know Nutt isn't going to win many of those.

Just like that abortion of a message board for Ole Miss, you come in and start talking about subjects not relevant to the case.

I'll enjoy ole pisses burning to the ground and Freeze getting a show-cause.

[Inhogswetrust]

Wait.  You're saying that HDN's record was bad enough to get him fired by itself?

I didn't say that. However a W/L record does indeed matter. It's just not the ONLY thing that matters.

[wildhogman]

By remaining in the public eye (justifiably or not), Nutt drags up memories among some Arkansas fans of his tenure as the Razorback coach.  Unfortunately for him, Nutt poisoned the waters while he was at Arkansas, and  many of those memories about him are not so pleasant.  A lot of people might like to keep it under wraps in the past, but as  long as he continues to insert himself into the public eye, folks are going to be reminded of his shenanigans at Arkansas rather than his accomplishments.  It really could have been soooo different for him had he played his cards a little differently.

Its like telling you to forget about your ex-wife who was self-centered, mistreated your kids, and always had eyes for the dollar sign.  But she still shows up publicly, flaunts her over over-inflated ego, and inspires thoughts of the bad times you had in your relationship with her.  You just want her to go away, but she seems to always be there.

But is essence I agree, time to move on from that era.

Like I said, so many are focused so hard on Nutt they miss the point of history. Imagine if you will an alterntate 1998 and Ford still the HC. We win our 7 to 9 games but the writing is on the wall and Ford is out. Imagine this time Tubby comes to town instead of a Nutt. Imagine the recruiting actually making sense instead of the 3 ring circus Nutt did. Imagine When a coach like CBB comes to take over there is no fan division, no history of circus under barnum and nUtts 3 rings of insanity. 
Then imagine CB fired next year and a fire breathing rah rah guy coming, taking the talent and coming within a breath of winning it all. Spending the next 5 to 10 years trying to reproduce results while hiding his flaws.  That is the history I speak of.  I like to imagine what would have been if we never got suckered by a nut and then suckered punched for 10 years

[WaltKowalski]

If this goes to damages we need to get 10,000 Hog fans to sign a statement saying that his reputation as a coach was worth a Sonic Cheeseburger but only on Tues after 5pm.

[ricepig]

If this goes to damages we need to get 10,000 Hog fans to sign a statement saying that his reputation as a coach was worth a Sonic Cheeseburger but only on Tues after 5pm.

Nope, Route 44 during Happy Hour, you're asking for too much..........

[GuvHog]

Either one is bad enough by itself, yet with only one of them a coach might survive a little while, but inconsistent on the field and stupidity off the field is not a good combination for a coach.................................

His record his last 2 years at Arkansas was good enough to get him an extension but his off of the field antics during those 2 years cost him his job (and rightfully so).

[LZH]

Lol you obviously don't understand what's going on here and showing your agenda and bias by trying to draw a conclusion between the two situations. 

Long is in no way wrong for his termination speech.

Let us know when it occurred to you how far that whizzed over your head.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Browsing one of Old Myth's message boards I saw something that made me go hmmm.....   Hootie was fired in 2011.  The so-called 'smear' campaign started in 2016.  So what's his excuse for not landing a job for the first five years?  Could it be he sucks as a coach and everybody knows it now?  Jus' sayin'......

They weren't supposed to talk bad about him, but did. That is the argument.

[Sivad]

They weren't supposed to talk bad about him, but did.

With Nutt, that's pretty much an impossible contract provision to be forced to comply with.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

With Nutt, that's pretty much an impossible contract provision to be forced to comply with.

Not really. You just go about your business. They have enough on their plate at Ole Miss as it is.

[Inhogswetrust]

His record his last 2 years at Arkansas was good enough to get him an extension but his off of the field antics during those 2 years cost him his job (and rightfully so).

Except he wasn't fired. He could have stayed and that idiot White would have let him except for that damn money that he wanted which required him to stay IIRC one more year. White simply agreed to pay it early and thus allowed nutty to quit when he did and get the money. We had a monkey with a whistle and an idiot in the Chancellors office at least as it related to athletics. Nutty knew that his days were numbered and he wanted to get out of town asap except he wanted that money also. I do give Whiter credit in that if he had not agreed to give nutty the money he would have been there at least one more year and then things probably would have been worse than when he left.

[Inhogswetrust]

With Nutt, that's pretty much an impossible contract provision to be forced to comply with.

Took the words right out of my mouth!

[Inhogswetrust]

Not really. You just go about your business. They have enough on their plate at Ole Miss as it is.

Except we're taking about old misses..............intelligence is not the norm there. They are the poster child for the old adage about opening their mouths and removing all doubt.

[AlmaHog2011]

Browsing one of Old Myth's message boards I saw something that made me go hmmm.....   Hootie was fired in 2011.  The so-called 'smear' campaign started in 2016.  So what's his excuse for not landing a job for the first five years?  Could it be he sucks as a coach and everybody knows it now?  Jus' sayin'......

Anyone who really thinks that Hootie hasn't got another job because of Ole Miss saying he cheated needs to have a mental examination!

[Augustus]

I'm not sure why the confusion?

It doesn't matter how crappy of a Coach, Houston Nutt was.  It doesn't matter when he left his job or when the alleged smear campaign began.

If there was a smear campaign, it doesn't matter whether that influenced Houston Nutt from being able to acquire employment or not.

What matters is... when Nutt was fired from Ole Miss, they signed a binding indefinite agreement that neither would defame/smear/talk negatively about the other.

Given all that's gone on at Ole Miss, during the Hugh Freeze tenure? It's quite likely that someone (Freeze) acting on Ole Miss' behalf did smear Houston Nutt?

But... as others have pointed out, I see Ole Miss paying this lawsuit off and trying to get rid of it ASAP (with a non-disclosure clause, of course).

Because this involves a Court, who can order a further discovery of evidence regarding Hugh Freeze... the NCAA doesn't have this power.  This civil suit can make the NCAA investigation into Ole Miss a WHOLE lot worse.

[bigeasyhog]

Except he wasn't fired. He could have stayed and that idiot White would have let him except for that damn money that he wanted which required him to stay IIRC one more year. White simply agreed to pay it early and thus allowed nutty to quit when he did and get the money. We had a monkey with a whistle and an idiot in the Chancellors office at least as it related to athletics. Nutty knew that his days were numbered and he wanted to get out of town asap except he wanted that money also. I do give Whiter credit in that if he had not agreed to give nutty the money he would have been there at least one more year and then things probably would have been worse than when he left.

So let me get this straight; you're saying they let Nutt decide whether he stayed for the $3mm or left for the same $3mm , his choice? Really?

Wow, just wow!  I need to think about this for a bit. So, in the sit down meeting , prior to the LSU game in November of '07, Nutt gets to choose stay for the 3 or leave for 3? Well, that's a very nice "pat on the ass with some Boudreauxs butt cream" to boot. Fantastic! Sounds like we're in good hands there.

[wildhogman]

So let me get this straight; you're saying they let Nutt decide whether he stayed for the $3mm or left for the same $3mm , his choice? Really?

Wow, just wow!  I need to think about this for a bit. So, in the sit down meeting , prior to the LSU game in November of '07, Nutt gets to choose stay for the 3 or leave for 3? Well, that's a very nice "pat on the ass with some Boudreauxs butt cream" to boot. Fantastic! Sounds like we're in good hands there.

Look I am no nutt fan, and it seems like there is something new comes out every few years that makes me shake my head in disbelieve. With that said, in 2007 all the national guru's could say was Arkansas is stupid for getting rid of a coach that twice won the west, as recently as the year before. Has a lot of talent possibly coming back(remember D-Mac and Jones were Jr's).  They claimed Ole Piss got a hell of a coach and stole one from us. The next two years seemed to bare that out with his victories and back to back new year day bowls. (fiddy years, FIDDY) remember that?  It wasn't until his last two years at Ol piss the truth finally started coming out and the national guys turned on him too. 
So understanding that, you have to see. Had we just flat out fired him, I doubt even CBP would have come. I mean who would wanna coach for a Historically(by record) Middle of pack SEC team that will fire you one year removed from winning the west?
There are reasons things went they way they did. Perspective is important

[Mike Irwin]

You don't really believe Hooty got Frank fired do you? Surely you are smarter than that.

That's exactly what he did. The same thing happened to his boss at Ole Miss.  AD's hire coaches. Word gets around. Not hard to figure out why he can't get a coaching job.

[TNRazorbacker]

"I filed that lawsuit, Chuck"   -Hootie

+1000 if I could.

[Inhogswetrust]

Anyone who really thinks that Hootie hasn't got another job because of Ole Miss saying he cheated needs to have a mental examination!

Ironic since it appears nutty himself is saying it...........................

[Inhogswetrust]

So let me get this straight; you're saying they let Nutt decide whether he stayed for the $3mm or left for the same $3mm , his choice? Really?

Wow, just wow!  I need to think about this for a bit. So, in the sit down meeting , prior to the LSU game in November of '07, Nutt gets to choose stay for the 3 or leave for 3? Well, that's a very nice "pat on the ass with some Boudreauxs butt cream" to boot. Fantastic! Sounds like we're in good hands there.

He knew his leash was short and needed to leave yet he was not about to get fired when he quit. He was willing to wait it out to get his money. It was his annuity that didn't mature until after the next season that he wanted so bad. If he left voluntarily before that time he forfeited it. White himself said something about it being a "golden noose" or something to that effect.