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Roster Comparisons
« on: March 12, 2015, 12:02:54 am »

Updating this thread to remove players no longer here, and hope to update again whenever they finally release the spring roster.
                   Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15

A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210   Gaines         190-190-195-186-200-195
B. Allen        212-214-210-216-215-210   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337
J. Allen         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- 290-309   Gorton         190-196-196-200-200-208
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180    Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223   Graham       n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a -217
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202    Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271    Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232
Beck            307-296-300-305-312-321    Hall             n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225    Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288
Boyd            312-311-312-298-295-287    Harris         n/a-n/a- n/a -201-212-223
Brown           n/a-n/a- n/a -235-221-262    Hatcher     205-208-215-210-210-210
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248    Hawkins    172-183-182-180-180-180
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205    Hedlund     n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202    Henry        n/a-n/a-245-251-255-250
A. Collins        n/a-n/a-200-216-215-224    Hodge       301-340-335-343-330-340
J. Collins       160-169-175-171-180-172    Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207
Colquitt         n/a- n/a-n/a- 215-245-236    B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324
Cornelius      n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240
Danenhauer   300-300-305-316-315-322   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200    Jones          n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254    Kirkland      n/a-n/a-320-348-330-343
Dodson          n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201    Koehler      n/a-n/a-340-340-331-340
Duncan          n/a-n/a -230-233-235-n/a    Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234
Edwards         n/a-n/a-n/a-205-205-210    Krueger        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-187-n/a
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237    Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193        Lewis       235-258-260-256-258-273
Eugene           n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236    Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209
Evans             n/a-n/a-205-222-222-222    Loewen      285-265-271-269-282-276
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175    Lucas         n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203
Froholdt          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280    Marks        n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308

McFain           n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180    Saling         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-153-165
McKinney       190-195-193-200-207-210    Saunders   n/a-n/a-185-188-190-193
McPherson      n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207    Skipper      n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311
Merrick           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335    Slaughter    n/a-n/a-215-231-235-220
D. Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211    Smith        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281
Morgan           n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192    Smothers   296-313-315-313-320-315
Murad             n/a-n/a-???-185-190-n/a    Sprinkle     215-231-235-237-241-243
O'Grady          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230    Stewart       n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190
Peavey            n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203    Storey       n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211
Pettway           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190    Sykes         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- 175-???
Pulley              n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197  Thomas-Smith n/a-n/a-225-225-235-232
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311    Thurman     n/a-n/a- 187-196-195-201
Ramirez           n/a-n/a- 180-172-195-202    Toliver        n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220    Tretola        n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-350-322
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172    Voelzke       220-247-250-255-260-256
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212    Walker       240-244-240-246-247-250
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165    Wallace      n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316
Robinson          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-190-190    Ward          295-282-292-288-288-n/a
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250    Watts         n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312   J. Williams   205-220-222-223-225-224
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207    R. Williams  n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205

Williams           n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271

Conner Dayton, rb: 5'11 160
Robert decerk, ls, transfer 6' 267
Evan Forte, db, 6'2 181
Matt Kolb, ol, 6'4 306
Austin McGehee, p, 6'1 203
Reid Miller, db, 5'9 193
Dominic Todarello, wr, 5'11 194
John Tyson, fb, 5'10 216

New Numbers:
Storey will be wearing #5
Gragg #11
Miller #22
J. Allen #50
Ledbetter #55
Skipper #70
Rogers #75
Merrick #79
Froholdt #91
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2015, 09:41:13 pm »

QB's, interesting how the Allen boys have lost a bit of weight. Was that by design, or did they mess up, given everything else about them one has to assume it was by design.

RB: Collins has definitely bulked up. Looks like Day had to do a bit of weight transformation, losing some bad weight before building good weight.

FB: Most seemed to have lost a bit of weight, which is surprising. Walker gained a few pounds.

WR: Not much change in weights.

TE: A bit of weight loss at the TE. Kraus has dropped nearly 30 pounds since coming here last year. Henry lost 5, Voelzke dropped 4 and sprinkle gained 2.

OL: Newcomer Allen has made some good gains. Walk-on Givson has dropped some weight in what is probably a good weight, but Hannah has dropped to 288. Either he is is having trouble maintaining his weight or he may be transitioning to a different role. Kirkland has added 13 pounds while also transitioning from guard to tackle, which seems strange, but if he can be quick and big, more power to him, literally. Merrick and Tretola have both definitely trimmed down.

DT: Boyd continues the transition to DL, down in the 280's from the 310's. Hodge trimmed up for last season a bit, but is now back to 340. Of course, maybe it is more muscle this time. Bijon has continued to trim up, losing 10 pounds. Ward has followed a similar weight path to Boyd while Watts has climbed from 260 a year ago to 295 this spring. Taiwan Johnson is now listed at 273, nearly 20 pounds over last June, though I imagine he played last season at more than just 255.

DE: Beanum and Winston have both made nice gains weighing in the 270's now. Hall has also put on around 16 pounds.

LB: Ellis has certainly trimmed up about 7 pounds, walk-on turned two deep participant Harris has gained a commendable 10 pounds in each iteration.

CB: Collins has dropped nearly 10 pounds, Floyd 15, though Ramirez has gained 7 pounds.

S: Gaines has dropped 5 pounds, while Liddell has gained 4.

K: Hedlund has not gained weight from his listed weight in HS, his listed weight coming here, and now. It is possible that he has dropped some chunk and added some more lean mass but I would argue that is evidence that he wasn't red-shirted because the coaches were afraid of him getting hit.

I'm really interested in the trends of DB's and TE's losing weight.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2015, 09:45:27 pm »

JWill 225, AC 225 That is just plain nasty!
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2015, 09:53:18 pm »

Liddell 193 to 209lbs. Nice! That's a good SEC size safety. Excited!
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2015, 12:23:57 pm »

Liddell 193 to 209lbs. Nice! That's a good SEC size safety. Excited!

That's 16 pounds of POW..!
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 04:21:23 pm »

                   Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015

A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210   Gaines         190-190-195-186-200-195-195
B. Allen        212-214-210-216-215-210-210   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330
J. Allen         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- 290-309-300   Gorton         190-196-196-200-200-208-210
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185    Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230   Graham       n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a -217-247
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202    Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280    Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230
Beck            307-296-300-305-312-321-325    Hall             n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253    Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293
Boyd            312-311-312-298-295-287-282    Harris         n/a-n/a- n/a -201-212-223-220
Brown           n/a-n/a- n/a -235-221-262-270    Hatcher     205-208-215-210-210-210-210
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250    Hawkins    172-183-182-180-180-180-180
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205    Hedlund     n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202    Henry        n/a-n/a-245-251-255-250-253
A. Collins        n/a-n/a-200-216-215-224-215    Hodge       301-340-335-343-330-340-340
J. Collins       160-169-175-171-180-172-172    Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208
Colquitt         n/a- n/a-n/a- 215-245-236-241    B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325
Cornelius      n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249
Danenhauer   300-300-305-316-315-322-312   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202    Jones          n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265    Kirkland      n/a-n/a-320-348-330-343-340
Dodson          n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202    Koehler      n/a-n/a-340-340-331-340-331
Duncan          n/a-n/a -230-233-235-n/a-n/a    Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235
Edwards         n/a-n/a-n/a-205-205-210-212    Krueger        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-187-n/a-n/a
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242    Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191        Lewis       235-258-260-256-258-273-279
Eugene           n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235    Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210
Evans             n/a-n/a-205-222-222-222-222    Loewen      285-265-271-269-282-276 -275
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172    Lucas         n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189
Froholdt          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299    Marks        n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295

McFain           n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187    Saling         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-153-165-170
McKinney       190-195-193-200-207-210-215    Saunders   n/a-n/a-185-188-190-193-195
McPherson      n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205    Skipper      n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331
Merrick           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355    Slaughter    n/a-n/a-215-231-235-220-n/a
D. Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207    Smith        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283
Morgan           n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195    Smothers   296-313-315-313-320-315-322
Murad             n/a-n/a-???-185-190-n/a-n/a   Sprinkle     215-231-235-237-241-243-255
O'Grady          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240    Stewart       n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165
Peavey            n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204    Storey       n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211
Pettway           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205    Sykes         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- 175-???-180
Pulley              n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210  Thomas-Smith n/a-n/a-225-225-235-232-225
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312    Thurman     n/a-n/a- 187-196-195-201-210
Ramirez           n/a-n/a- 180-172-195-202-202    Toliver        n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a    Tretola        n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-350-322-334
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180    Voelzke       220-247-250-255-260-256-253
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215    Walker       240-244-240-246-247-250-256
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175    Wallace      n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317
Robinson          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-190-190-190    Ward          295-282-292-288-288-n/a-???
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255    Watts         n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312   J. Williams   205-220-222-223-225-224-223
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203    R. Williams  n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215

Williams           n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272

Conner Dayton, rb: 5'11 160-n/a
Robert decerk, ls, transfer 6' 267-n/a
Evan Forte, db, 6'2 181-n/a
Matt Kolb, ol, 6'4 306-n/a
Austin McGehee, p, 6'1 203-n/a
Reid Miller, db, 5'9 193-193
Dominic Todarello, wr, 5'11 194-n/a
John Tyson, fb, 5'10 216-216
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2015, 04:23:41 pm »

Froholdt is up 30 pounds and Taiwan is up nearly 20 to 290. Another big change is Sprinkle up to 255.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2015, 04:27:48 pm »

Skipper is up to 331. Still looks thin. :razorback:
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 03:38:19 pm »

Edited to show the new guys' weights.

Also, new player's numbers go as follows:

Josh Allen 50
Jamario Bell 40
Austin Cantrell 44
Nate Dalton 8
Daytrieon Dean 98
Hjalte Froholdt 91
Will Gragg 11
Dre Greenlaw 23
Colton Jackson 74
Kendrick Jackson 42
Blake Johnson 8
Jalen Merrick 79
Reid Miller 22
CJ O'Grady 15
La'Michael Pettaway 88
Ryan Pulley 10
Dominique Reed 87
Zach Rogers 75
TJ Smith 92
Deon Stewart 13
Ty Storey 5
Willie Sykes 7
Rawleigh Williams III 22
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2015, 03:55:40 pm »

Did Deon Stewart go from 190-165 or is it the other way around? (please say the other way around)
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 04:40:28 pm »

Did Deon Stewart go from 190-165 or is it the other way around? (please say the other way around)

The 190 was his HS listed weight/the weight listed on signing day by the university. 165 is his weight on the fall roster. Highly possible he didn't lose 25 but instead was over listed. Possible that he trimmed off some bad weight though.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 05:05:33 pm »

DE Jamario Bell up from 225 to 253? Good progress.

Anthony Brown ... 6-3 ... 270 ... AYSM?

Is Cornelius Floyd down to 172 to get faster? Began at 190.

Derrick Graham ... 6-4 ... 247 ... linebacker?

Kendrick Jackson ... 6-1 ... 249 ... beginning to wonder if the Hogs are going to say "screw it" and start five defensive ends.

Josh Liddell at safety is listed at 6-1, 210, which is Alabama size. Also Davyon McKinney, 6-1, 215.

At 6-2, 205, La'Michael Pettway is an interesting football player.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2015, 05:08:45 pm »

Froholdt is an interesting one with the weight changes. It is possible that perhaps I got my lineup wrong, but It seemed like this spring, he was at 309, then when they updated the roster for returning players he was at 311, but now it is updated to include new players is at 299. Happened to a few other players as well, but with smaller differences.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2015, 05:09:55 pm »

Froholdt is an interesting one with the weight changes. It is possible that perhaps I got my lineup wrong, but It seemed like this spring, he was at 309, then when they updated the roster for returning players he was at 311, but now it is updated to include new players is at 299. Happened to a few other players as well, but with smaller differences.

Spring press guide had Froholdt at 6-5, 311. Same in the post-spring depth chart.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2015, 05:34:18 pm »

Spring press guide had Froholdt at 6-5, 311. Same in the post-spring depth chart.

Guess that was just Ben error then.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2015, 03:47:55 pm »

They have now added the incoming True Fr Walkon's.  Some of them are very exciting

Klint Harvey- 6-6 344 OT from Corning.  Love it!  Could be next David Hurd or Rickey Wagner that CBB had at Wisky that was drafted 5th round and now starts for Baltimore

Byran Keaton- 5-10 175 CB from Camden.  Could be the next Kevin Richardson

Tyler Phillips- 6-1 222 LB from NLR.  The Sparq king could end up developing into at worst a special teams demon, and could definitely carve out a role in the depth chart down the road

Others

Zack English 5-8 175 WR from Prosper, Tx
George Madden 6-1 226 Long Snapper from Blanchard, Ok
Howie Stettmeier 6-4 242 TE from Rogers
 
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2015, 04:59:48 pm »

been reading in other threads ac is down to 205 guess that's not official thou.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 01:19:11 am »

I somehow missed announcement of Zack English, a fun-sized player out of 5A Prosper, TX, to the walk-on program.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1246277/highlights/200570375/v2
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2015, 11:33:59 am »

Benny, thanks for keeping this up to date.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2016, 04:05:55 pm »

                   Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016

A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210-208   Gaines         190-190-195-186-200-195-195-grad
B. Allen        212-214-210-216-215-210-210-grad   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330-343
J. Allen         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- 290-309-300-n/a   Gorton         190-196-196-200-200-208-210-???
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185 -198   Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230-217   Graham       n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a -217-247-230
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202-212    Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280-270    Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230-215
Beck            307-296-300-305-312-321-325-n/a    Hall             n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270-270
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261    Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293-286
Boyd            312-311-312-298-295-287-282-???    Harris         n/a-n/a- n/a -201-212-223-220-224
Brown           n/a-n/a- n/a -235-221-262-270-???    Hatcher     205-208-215-210-210-210-210-218
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252    Hawkins    172-183-182-180-180-180-180-175
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205-205    Hedlund     n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165-165
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202-209    Henry        n/a-n/a-245-251-255-250-253-grad
A. Collins        n/a-n/a-200-216-215-224-215-grad    Hodge       301-340-335-343-330-340-340-grad
J. Collins       160-169-175-171-180-172-172-172    Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208-208
Colquitt         n/a- n/a-n/a- 215-245-236-241-???    B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325-332
Cornelius      n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202-211    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250
Danenhauer   300-300-305-316-315-322-312-n/a   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206-212    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290-287
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202-195    Jones          n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235-248
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265-251    Kirkland      n/a-n/a-320-348-330-343-340-grad
Dodson          n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202-205    Koehler      n/a-n/a-340-340-331-340-331-???
Duncan          n/a-n/a -230-233-235-n/a-n/a-n/a    Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235-238
Edwards         n/a-n/a-n/a-205-205-210-212-n/a    Krueger        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-187-n/a-n/a-n/a
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242-248    Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275-???
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191-195        Lewis       235-258-260-256-258-273-279-276
Eugene           n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235-234    Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210-210
Evans             n/a-n/a-205-222-222-222-222-217    Loewen      285-265-271-269-282-276 -275-grad
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172-n/a    Lucas         n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189-192
Froholdt          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309    Marks        n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295-298

McFain           n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187-186    Saling         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-153-165-170-164
McKinney       190-195-193-200-207-210-215-grad    Saunders   n/a-n/a-185-188-190-193-195-???
McPherson      n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205-210    Skipper      n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331-326
Merrick           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329    Slaughter    n/a-n/a-215-231-235-220-n/a-n/a
D. Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207-216    Smith        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284
Morgan           n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195-195    Smothers   296-313-315-313-320-315-322-grad
Murad             n/a-n/a-???-185-190-n/a-n/a-n/a      Sprinkle     215-231-235-237-241-243-255-255
O'Grady          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246    Stewart       n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163
Peavey            n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204-203    Storey       n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216
Pettway           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205    Sykes         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- 175-???-180-185
Pulley              n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194     Thomas-Smith n/a-n/a-225-225-235-232-225-225
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312-314    Thurman     n/a-n/a- 187-196-195-201-210-???
Ramirez           n/a-n/a- 180-172-195-202-202-201    Toliver        n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186-181
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230    Tretola        n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-350-322-334-grad
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180-175    Voelzke       220-247-250-255-260-256-253-grad
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215-218    Walker       240-244-240-246-247-250-256-251
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175-170    Wallace      n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317-326
Robinson          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-190-190-190-n/a    Ward          295-282-292-288-288-n/a-???-???
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255-252    Watts         n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303   J. Williams   205-220-222-223-225-224-223-241
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203-202    R. Williams  n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215-224

Williams           n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237-grad
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262-262
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272-280

Conner Dayton, rb: 5'11 160-n/a-160
Robert decerk, ls, transfer 6' 267-n/a
Evan Forte, db, 6'2 181-n/a
Matt Kolb, ol, 6'4 306-n/a
Austin McGehee, p, 6'1 203-n/a
Reid Miller, db, 5'9 193-193-194
Dominic Todarello, wr, 5'11 194-n/a
John Tyson, fb, 5'10 216-216

New players:
McTelvin Agim: #1 6'3 288
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2016, 01:52:40 pm »

Noticeable changes: Several of the DE's have lost some weight, such as Beanum and Dean, further evidence they are looking for more of the explosive and attacking DL from 2014 rather than the reacting and maintaining DL we used last year.

Merrick has lost a good bit of weight, though Bijhon has gained some back. From the coaches, BJ seems to be in a similar position that Hodge was for much of his career here, having trouble keeping off bad weight that leads to conditioning issues. However, not being there myself and interacting, it is entirely possible he only added good weight.

Pulley is a lot smaller and Ramsey is listed at 230 now.

We aren't seeing a ton of weight transformations now like we had in the past. I think this is a good sign that we are as a team mostly where we want to be with just some fine tuning tweaks.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2016, 01:41:43 am »

                   Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016-Fall 2016

A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210-208-210   Gaines         190-190-195-186-200-195-195-grad-n/a
B. Allen        212-214-210-216-215-210-210-grad-n/a   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330-343-347
J. Allen         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- 290-309-300-n/a-n/a   Gorton         190-196-196-200-200-208-210-???-n/a
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185 -198-195   Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253-253
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230-217-214   Graham       n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a -217-247-230-234
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202-212-213    Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231-227
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280-270-257    Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230-215-215
Beck            307-296-300-305-312-321-325-n/a-n/a    Hall             n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270-270-260
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261-260    Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293-286-275
Boyd            312-311-312-298-295-287-282-???-n/a    J. Harris      n/a-n/a- n/a -201-212-223-220-224-235
Brown           n/a-n/a- n/a -235-221-262-270-???-n/a    Hatcher     205-208-215-210-210-210-210-218-206
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252-261    Hawkins    172-183-182-180-180-180-180-175-175
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205-205-208    Hedlund     n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165-165-172
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202-209-209    Henry        n/a-n/a-245-251-255-250-253-grad-n/a
A. Collins        n/a-n/a-200-216-215-224-215-grad-n/a    Hodge       301-340-335-343-330-340-340-grad-n/a
J. Collins       160-169-175-171-180-172-172-172-171    Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208-208-217
Colquitt         n/a- n/a-n/a- 215-245-236-241-???-n/a    B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325-332-333
Cornelius      n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202-211-212    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302-302
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204-190    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250-252
Danenhauer   300-300-305-316-315-322-312-n/a-n/a   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184-188
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206-212-215    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290-287-280
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202-195-200    Jones          n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235-248-248
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265-251-274    Kirkland      n/a-n/a-320-348-330-343-340-grad-n/a
Dodson          n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202-205-208    Koehler      n/a-n/a-340-340-331-340-331-???-n/a
Duncan          n/a-n/a -230-233-235-n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a    Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235-238-248
Edwards         n/a-n/a-n/a-205-205-210-212-n/a-n/a    Krueger        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-187-n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242-248-246    Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275-???-278
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191-195 -195       Lewis       235-258-260-256-258-273-279-276-275
Eugene           n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235-234-235    Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210-210-217
Evans             n/a-n/a-205-222-222-222-222-217-n/a    Loewen      285-265-271-269-282-276 -275-grad-n/a
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172-n/a-171    Lucas         n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189-192-192
Froholdt          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309-314    Marks        n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295-298-298

McFain           n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187-186-184    Saling         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-153-165-170-164-n/a
McKinney       190-195-193-200-207-210-215-grad-n/a    Saunders   n/a-n/a-185-188-190-193-195-???-n/a
McPherson      n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205-210-210    Skipper      n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331-326-322
Merrick           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329-326    Slaughter    n/a-n/a-215-231-235-220-n/a-n/a-n/a
D. Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207-216-213    TJ Smith     n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284-280
Morgan           n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195-195-193    Smothers   296-313-315-313-320-315-322-grad-n/a
Murad             n/a-n/a-???-185-190-n/a-n/a-n/a-194      Sprinkle     215-231-235-237-241-243-255-255-240
O'Grady          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246-248    Stewart       n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163-163
Peavey            n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204-203-203    Storey       n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216-215
Pettway           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205-218    Sykes         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- 175-???-180-185-180
Pulley              n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194-195     Thomas-Smith n/a-n/a-225-225-235-232-225-225-n/a
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312-314-312    Thurman     n/a-n/a- 187-196-195-201-210-???-n/a
S. Ramirez       n/a-n/a- 180-172-195-202-202-201-198    Toliver        n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186-181-184
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230-232    Tretola        n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-350-322-334-grad-n/a
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180-175-175    Voelzke       220-247-250-255-260-256-253-grad-n/a
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215-218-217    Walker       240-244-240-246-247-250-256-251-237
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175-170-172    Wallace      n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317-326-332
Robinson          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-190-190-190-n/a-n/a    Ward          295-282-292-288-288-n/a-???-???-n/a
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255-252-255    Watts         n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a-292
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303-306   J. Williams   205-220-222-223-225-224-223-grad-n/a
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203-202-200    R. Williams  n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215-224-225

Josh Williams     n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237-241-252
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262-262-262
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272-280-273

Conner Dayton, rb: 5'11 160-n/a-160 (fall)
Robert Decker, ls, transfer 6' 267-n/a-249 (fall)
Evan Forte, db, 6'2 181-n/a-n/a
Matt Kolb, ol, 6'4 306-n/a-n/a
Austin McGehee, p, 6'1 203-n/a-n/a
Reid Miller, db, 5'9 193-193-194-199
Dominic Todarello, wr, 5'11 194-n/a
John Tyson, fb, 5'10 216-216
Ben Brasuell LB, 6'1 215 (fall)
Tobias Enlow, WR, 6'1 203
Elias Hale, DL, 6'5 220
Tyler Hall, OL, 6'4, 297
Klint Harvey, OL, 6'6 330
Dylan Hays, 6'3 290
Justice Hobbs, RB, 5'10 213
Cooper Sone, OL, 6'2, 272
Howie Stettmeier, TE, 6'4 250

New players:
McTelvin Agim: #1 6'3 280 (signing announcement) - 288 (spring)-285 (Fall)
Alexy Jean Baptiste: 6'3 220-228
Kofi Boteng: 6'1 183, -183 (fall)
Austin Capps: 6'4 320, -307
Deon Edwards: 6'1 200, -203
Briston Guidry: 6'3 286, -289
Grayson Gunter: 6'6 233 -230
DeJon Harris: 6' 240, -253
TJ Hammonds: 5'11 195-197
Jake Heinrich: 6'4 295-290
Hayden Johnson: 6'3 250-248
Jordan Jones: 6'3 180-182
Cole Kelly: 6'7 260-256
Giovanni LaFrance: 6'2 235-254
Deion Malone: 6'3 295-294
Jonathan Marshal: 6'4 270, -293
Paul Ramirez, 6'5 275-289
Micah Smith 6'1, 197-196
Britto Tutt 6-3 184 - 184
Dee Walker: 6'2 210 - 207
Devwah Whaley: 6' 210, -217
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2016, 01:50:00 am »

                   Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016-Fall 2016

A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210-208-210   Gaines         190-190-195-186-200-195-195-grad-n/a
B. Allen        212-214-210-216-215-210-210-grad-n/a   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330-343-347
J. Allen         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- 290-309-300-n/a-n/a   Gorton         190-196-196-200-200-208-210-???-n/a
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185 -198-195   Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253-253
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230-217-214   Graham       n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a -217-247-230-234
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202-212-213    Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231-227
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280-270-257    Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230-215-215
Beck            307-296-300-305-312-321-325-n/a-n/a    Hall             n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270-270-260
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261-260    Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293-286-275
Boyd            312-311-312-298-295-287-282-???-n/a    J. Harris      n/a-n/a- n/a -201-212-223-220-224-235
Brown           n/a-n/a- n/a -235-221-262-270-???-n/a    Hatcher     205-208-215-210-210-210-210-218-206
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252-261    Hawkins    172-183-182-180-180-180-180-175-175
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205-205-208    Hedlund     n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165-165-172
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202-209-209    Henry        n/a-n/a-245-251-255-250-253-grad-n/a
A. Collins        n/a-n/a-200-216-215-224-215-grad-n/a    Hodge       301-340-335-343-330-340-340-grad-n/a
J. Collins       160-169-175-171-180-172-172-172-171    Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208-208-217
Colquitt         n/a- n/a-n/a- 215-245-236-241-???-n/a    B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325-332-333
Cornelius      n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202-211-212    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302-302
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204-190    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250-252
Danenhauer   300-300-305-316-315-322-312-n/a-n/a   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184-188
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206-212-215    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290-287-280
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202-195-200    Jones          n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235-248-248
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265-251-274    Kirkland      n/a-n/a-320-348-330-343-340-grad-n/a
Dodson          n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202-205-208    Koehler      n/a-n/a-340-340-331-340-331-???-n/a
Duncan          n/a-n/a -230-233-235-n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a    Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235-238-248
Edwards         n/a-n/a-n/a-205-205-210-212-n/a-n/a    Krueger        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-187-n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242-248-246    Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275-???-278
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191-195 -195       Lewis       235-258-260-256-258-273-279-276-275
Eugene           n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235-234-235    Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210-210-217
Evans             n/a-n/a-205-222-222-222-222-217-n/a    Loewen      285-265-271-269-282-276 -275-grad-n/a
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172-n/a-171    Lucas         n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189-192-192
Froholdt          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309-314    Marks        n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295-298-298

McFain           n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187-186-184    Saling         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-153-165-170-164-n/a
McKinney       190-195-193-200-207-210-215-grad-n/a    Saunders   n/a-n/a-185-188-190-193-195-???-n/a
McPherson      n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205-210-210    Skipper      n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331-326-322
Merrick           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329-326    Slaughter    n/a-n/a-215-231-235-220-n/a-n/a-n/a
D. Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207-216-213    TJ Smith     n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284-280
Morgan           n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195-195-193    Smothers   296-313-315-313-320-315-322-grad-n/a
Murad             n/a-n/a-???-185-190-n/a-n/a-n/a-194      Sprinkle     215-231-235-237-241-243-255-255-240
O'Grady          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246-248    Stewart       n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163-163
Peavey            n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204-203-203    Storey       n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216-215
Pettway           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205-218    Sykes         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- 175-???-180-185-180
Pulley              n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194-195     Thomas-Smith n/a-n/a-225-225-235-232-225-225-n/a
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312-314-312    Thurman     n/a-n/a- 187-196-195-201-210-???-n/a
S. Ramirez       n/a-n/a- 180-172-195-202-202-201-198    Toliver        n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186-181-184
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230-232    Tretola        n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-350-322-334-grad-n/a
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180-175-175    Voelzke       220-247-250-255-260-256-253-grad-n/a
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215-218-217    Walker       240-244-240-246-247-250-256-251-237
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175-170-172    Wallace      n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317-326-332
Robinson          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-190-190-190-n/a-n/a    Ward          295-282-292-288-288-n/a-???-???-n/a
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255-252-255    Watts         n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a-292
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303-306   J. Williams   205-220-222-223-225-224-223-grad-n/a
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203-202-200    R. Williams  n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215-224-225

Josh Williams     n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237-241-252
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262-262-262
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272-280-273

Conner Dayton, rb: 5'11 160-n/a-160 (fall)
Robert Decker, ls, transfer 6' 267-n/a-249 (fall)
Evan Forte, db, 6'2 181-n/a-n/a
Matt Kolb, ol, 6'4 306-n/a-n/a
Austin McGehee, p, 6'1 203-n/a-n/a
Reid Miller, db, 5'9 193-193-194-199
Dominic Todarello, wr, 5'11 194-n/a
John Tyson, fb, 5'10 216-216
Ben Brasuell LB, 6'1 215 (fall)
Tobias Enlow, WR, 6'1 203
Elias Hale, DL, 6'5 220
Tyler Hall, OL, 6'4, 297
Klint Harvey, OL, 6'6 330
Dylan Hays, 6'3 290
Justice Hobbs, RB, 5'10 213
Howie Stettmeier, TE, 6'4 250

New players:
McTelvin Agim: #1 6'3 280 (signing announcement) - 288 (spring)-285 (Fall)
Alexy Jean Baptiste: 6'3 220-228
Kofi Boteng: 6'1 183, -183 (fall)
Austin Capps: 6'4 320, -307
Deon Edwards: 6'1 200, -203
Briston Guidry: 6'3 286, -289
Grayson Gunter: 6'6 233 -230
DeJon Harris: 6' 240, -253
TJ Hammonds: 5'11 195-197
Jake Heinrich: 6'4 295-290
Hayden Johnson: 6'3 250-248
Jordan Jones: 6'3 180-182
Cole Kelly: 6'7 260-256
Giovanni LaFrance: 6'2 235-254
Deion Malone: 6'3 295-294
Jonathan Marshal: 6'4 270, -293
Paul Ramirez, 6'5 275-289
Micah Smith 6'1, 197-196
Britto Tutt 6-3 184 - 184
Dee Walker: 6'2 210 - 207
Devwah Whaley: 6' 210, -217


+1 if I could.

That's a lot of work.
Interesting results on the new LB's
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2016, 01:56:52 am »

Notable Changes:

Beanum down 13 pounds, his slimming down would go with the other decisions of the coaching staff going for a faster DL. Daytreon Dean up 23 pounds. This is a lot of weight, and very skeptical it is all muscle. Perhaps too lax this summer, or they are wanting him to be stronger at the line, and playing more inside at tackle or be a run stopping DE. T. Johnson down 7, not a huge difference, but he's back to the weight he was playing at in 2014. Wise Jr is similarly down 7 pounds as well.

Greenlaw down 4 pounds, though still up 5 lbs from this time last year. Josh Harris up 11 pounds. Walk on had made some noise last year as a freshmen. Josh Williams is up 11 pounds as well. Most of the freshmen LB's added significant weight this summer.

Dalton down 14. His 204 weight in the spring would be more on par with coaches wanting him to be a safety. Him dropping down to 190 sounds more like a CB weight, if that loss was by design. Liddell up 7 pounds. Perhaps looking to be more of a hard hitting safety as he is approaching WLB weight.

Whaley is up to 217 which is about what RW3 was at his freshmen season and more than either Alex or JWill came in at for their freshmen seasons.

Cantrell up 9, either didn't stay well in shape which IMO is doubtful at his position, or extra strength is for extra muscle blocking. Hatcher down 12 pounds. Injury related, or wanting him to be faster? Hollister is up 9 and given his frame, presumably wouldn't lose a step. Kraus up 10 pounds.

Hannah down 11. Presumably having trouble keeping up the weight. Ramirez is up 14 pounds and while still on the light end for a tackle, is not at such a light weight that he'd be a liability if he played.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2016, 05:44:09 am »

One player to add to the list is Ffr OL Coooer Sone.  Joined the team just before the season last fall.  Came in at 6'2" 260 and is currently 6'3", 281.  Body by Herb is the real thing.  His mother and l's grocery bill this summer is proof of that! This pic was from spring ball 10lbs ago.  Fayetteville High Sr vs Hog Fr.
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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2016, 02:10:31 pm »

One player to add to the list is Ffr OL Coooer Sone.  Joined the team just before the season last fall.  Came in at 6'2" 260 and is currently 6'3", 281.  Body by Herb is the real thing.  His mother and l's grocery bill this summer is proof of that! This pic was from spring ball 10lbs ago.  Fayetteville High Sr vs Hog Fr.

I made sure to pay attention to him on the roster after seeing your posts, but apologies for not having him on the list.
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2016, 02:21:31 pm »

Thanks for all the work on the changes and updates.  These guys are working very hard this summer.  Some were supposed to add weight while others were to tighten up.  From my observations, Herbert is worth every penny and then some. 
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2016, 02:25:10 pm »

Thanks for all the work on the changes and updates.  These guys are working very hard this summer.  Some were supposed to add weight while others were to tighten up.

So, I was planning on making a post noting that there is still nearly 2 months until game day so these listed weights are likely to change. However, you mention that not only are these weights from at least early July, but from a month ago even?

I know in years past, the roster has typically been updated in late July shortly before starting fall camp and those weights were what was listed until the start of spring practice. Any idea on if they will update the weights again before the start of the season?

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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2016, 02:38:46 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2016, 02:59:02 pm »

Notable Changes:

Beanum down 13 pounds, his slimming down would go with the other decisions of the coaching staff going for a faster DL. Daytreon Dean up 23 pounds. This is a lot of weight, and very skeptical it is all muscle. Perhaps too lax this summer, or they are wanting him to be stronger at the line, and playing more inside at tackle or be a run stopping DE. T. Johnson down 7, not a huge difference, but he's back to the weight he was playing at in 2014. Wise Jr is similarly down 7 pounds as well.

Greenlaw down 4 pounds, though still up 5 lbs from this time last year. Josh Harris up 11 pounds. Walk on had made some noise last year as a freshmen. Josh Williams is up 11 pounds as well. Most of the freshmen LB's added significant weight this summer.

Dalton down 14. His 204 weight in the spring would be more on par with coaches wanting him to be a safety. Him dropping down to 190 sounds more like a CB weight, if that loss was by design. Liddell up 7 pounds. Perhaps looking to be more of a hard hitting safety as he is approaching WLB weight.

Whaley is up to 217 which is about what RW3 was at his freshmen season and more than either Alex or JWill came in at for their freshmen seasons.

Cantrell up 9, either didn't stay well in shape which IMO is doubtful at his position, or extra strength is for extra muscle blocking. Hatcher down 12 pounds. Injury related, or wanting him to be faster? Hollister is up 9 and given his frame, presumably wouldn't lose a step. Kraus up 10 pounds.

Hannah down 11. Presumably having trouble keeping up the weight. Ramirez is up 14 pounds and while still on the light end for a tackle, is not at such a light weight that he'd be a liability if he played.
I haven't seen Daytreon Dean since his Northside days, but I can tell you he had the frame to put on some weight.  Hopefully it was good weight.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2016, 05:28:04 pm »

Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016-Fall 2016

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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2016, 05:32:37 pm »

I haven't seen Daytreon Dean since his Northside days, but I can tell you he had the frame to put on some weight.  Hopefully it was good weight.

I believe it. It is just very hard for somebody to put that much weight on in that short of a time and it be good weight. However, not impossible. Lots of scenarios here. As I mentioned, they may want him to fill into that Taiwan Johnson type role so a little extra isn't too bad. Maybe they wanted him to bulk up as much as possible, so you go extra on the calories and get some fat to make sure your muscles aren't being limited in calories and nutrients for growth with the plan of trimming down the fat before the season starts. Or, it is possible he is just that genetically gifted and put in that much work. I have nothing here to offer but speculation.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2016, 09:46:07 pm »

                   Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016-Fall 2016

A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210-208-210   Gaines         190-190-195-186-200-195-195-grad-n/a
B. Allen        212-214-210-216-215-210-210-grad-n/a   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330-343-347
J. Allen         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- 290-309-300-n/a-n/a   Gorton         190-196-196-200-200-208-210-???-n/a
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185 -198-195   Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253-253
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230-217-214   Graham       n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a -217-247-230-234
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202-212-213    Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231-227
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280-270-257    Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230-215-215
Beck            307-296-300-305-312-321-325-n/a-n/a    Hall             n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270-270-260
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261-260    Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293-286-275
Boyd            312-311-312-298-295-287-282-???-n/a    J. Harris      n/a-n/a- n/a -201-212-223-220-224-235
Brown           n/a-n/a- n/a -235-221-262-270-???-n/a    Hatcher     205-208-215-210-210-210-210-218-206
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252-261    Hawkins    172-183-182-180-180-180-180-175-175
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205-205-208    Hedlund     n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165-165-172
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202-209-209    Henry        n/a-n/a-245-251-255-250-253-grad-n/a
A. Collins        n/a-n/a-200-216-215-224-215-grad-n/a    Hodge       301-340-335-343-330-340-340-grad-n/a
J. Collins       160-169-175-171-180-172-172-172-171    Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208-208-217
Colquitt         n/a- n/a-n/a- 215-245-236-241-???-n/a    B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325-332-333
Cornelius      n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202-211-212    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302-302
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204-190    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250-252
Danenhauer   300-300-305-316-315-322-312-n/a-n/a   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184-188
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206-212-215    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290-287-280
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202-195-200    Jones          n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235-248-248
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265-251-274    Kirkland      n/a-n/a-320-348-330-343-340-grad-n/a
Dodson          n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202-205-208    Koehler      n/a-n/a-340-340-331-340-331-???-n/a
Duncan          n/a-n/a -230-233-235-n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a    Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235-238-248
Edwards         n/a-n/a-n/a-205-205-210-212-n/a-n/a    Krueger        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-187-n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242-248-246    Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275-???-278
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191-195 -195       Lewis       235-258-260-256-258-273-279-276-275
Eugene           n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235-234-235    Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210-210-217
Evans             n/a-n/a-205-222-222-222-222-217-n/a    Loewen      285-265-271-269-282-276 -275-grad-n/a
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172-n/a-171    Lucas         n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189-192-192
Froholdt          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309-314    Marks        n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295-298-298

McFain           n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187-186-184    Saling         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-153-165-170-164-n/a
McKinney       190-195-193-200-207-210-215-grad-n/a    Saunders   n/a-n/a-185-188-190-193-195-???-n/a
McPherson      n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205-210-210    Skipper      n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331-326-322
Merrick           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329-326    Slaughter    n/a-n/a-215-231-235-220-n/a-n/a-n/a
D. Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207-216-213    TJ Smith     n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284-280
Morgan           n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195-195-193    Smothers   296-313-315-313-320-315-322-grad-n/a
Murad             n/a-n/a-???-185-190-n/a-n/a-n/a-194      Sprinkle     215-231-235-237-241-243-255-255-240
O'Grady          n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246-248    Stewart       n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163-163
Peavey            n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204-203-203    Storey       n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216-215
Pettway           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205-218    Sykes         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- 175-???-180-185-180
Pulley              n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194-195     Thomas-Smith n/a-n/a-225-225-235-232-225-225-n/a
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312-314-312    Thurman     n/a-n/a- 187-196-195-201-210-???-n/a
S. Ramirez       n/a-n/a- 180-172-195-202-202-201-198    Toliver        n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186-181-184
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230-232    Tretola        n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-350-322-334-grad-n/a
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180-175-175    Voelzke       220-247-250-255-260-256-253-grad-n/a
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215-218-217    Walker       240-244-240-246-247-250-256-251-237
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175-170-172    Wallace      n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317-326-332
Robinson          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-190-190-190-n/a-n/a    Ward          295-282-292-288-288-n/a-???-???-n/a
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255-252-255    Watts         n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a-292
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303-306   J. Williams   205-220-222-223-225-224-223-grad-n/a
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203-202-200    R. Williams  n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215-224-225

Josh Williams     n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237-241-252
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262-262-262
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272-280-273

Conner Dayton, rb: 5'11 160-n/a-160 (fall)
Robert Decker, ls, transfer 6' 267-n/a-249 (fall)
Evan Forte, db, 6'2 181-n/a-n/a
Matt Kolb, ol, 6'4 306-n/a-n/a
Austin McGehee, p, 6'1 203-n/a-n/a
Reid Miller, db, 5'9 193-193-194-199
Dominic Todarello, wr, 5'11 194-n/a
John Tyson, fb, 5'10 216-216
Ben Brasuell LB, 6'1 215 (fall)
Tobias Enlow, WR, 6'1 203
Elias Hale, DL, 6'5 220
Tyler Hall, OL, 6'4, 297
Klint Harvey, OL, 6'6 330
Dylan Hays, 6'3 290
Justice Hobbs, RB, 5'10 213
Cooper Sone, OL, 6'2, 272
Howie Stettmeier, TE, 6'4 250

New players:
McTelvin Agim: #1 6'3 280 (signing announcement) - 288 (spring)-285 (Fall)
Alexy Jean Baptiste: 6'3 220-228
Kofi Boteng: 6'1 183, -183 (fall)
Austin Capps: 6'4 320, -307
Deon Edwards: 6'1 200, -203
Briston Guidry: 6'3 286, -289
Grayson Gunter: 6'6 233 -230
DeJon Harris: 6' 240, -253
TJ Hammonds: 5'11 195-197
Jake Heinrich: 6'4 295-290
Hayden Johnson: 6'3 250-248
Jordan Jones: 6'3 180-182
Cole Kelly: 6'7 260-256
Giovanni LaFrance: 6'2 235-254
Deion Malone: 6'3 295-294
Jonathan Marshal: 6'4 270, -293
Paul Ramirez, 6'5 275-289
Micah Smith 6'1, 197-196
Britto Tutt 6-3 184 - 184
Dee Walker: 6'2 210 - 207
Devwah Whaley: 6' 210, -217
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2016, 01:28:45 am »

So, I was planning on making a post noting that there is still nearly 2 months until game day so these listed weights are likely to change. However, you mention that not only are these weights from at least early July, but from a month ago even?

I know in years past, the roster has typically been updated in late July shortly before starting fall camp and those weights were what was listed until the start of spring practice. Any idea on if they will update the weights again before the start of the season?

Thanks for your insight.

The add weight group weighs in every day before their workout.(6am 4 mornings a week) Some are are on the drop or maintain group and I'm not sure how many times a week that they weigh. I'm not sure if the "final weight" that goes into the program will be from before or after fall camp just prior to game 1. 
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2016, 01:39:12 am »

I believe it. It is just very hard for somebody to put that much weight on in that short of a time and it be good weight. However, not impossible. Lots of scenarios here. As I mentioned, they may want him to fill into that Taiwan Johnson type role so a little extra isn't too bad. Maybe they wanted him to bulk up as much as possible, so you go extra on the calories and get some fat to make sure your muscles aren't being limited in calories and nutrients for growth with the plan of trimming down the fat before the season starts. Or, it is possible he is just that genetically gifted and put in that much work. I have nothing here to offer but speculation.
Dean's weight is good weight I assure you.  His quickness and agility are improving also.  I have a special interest in Daytreon. My son was a LT at Fayetteville when Daytreon was a DE at Northside.  He's fun to watch.  A lot of these guys don't start to fill out until they're 19-20 years old.  Coach Herbert catches them at the right time and they just balloon up in muscle mass.   That's Coach Herbert's special talent.  Seeing how and when they can add the mass.  Don't be skeptical of Daytreon's weigh.  It's good weight and he's working hard.  He's also tearing it up in the classroom.  Great Hog on all levels.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2016, 01:49:06 am »

Dean's weight is good weight I assure you.  His quickness and agility are improving also.  I have a special interest in Daytreon. My son was a LT at Fayettevulle when Dayteon was a DE at Northside.  He's fun to watch.  A lot of these guys don't start to fill out until they're 19-20 years old.  Coach Herbert catches them at the right time and they just ballon up in muscle mass.   That's Coach Herbert's special talent.  Seeing how and when they can add the mass.  Don't be skeptical of Daytreon's weigh.  It's good weight and he's working hard.  He's also tearing it up in the classroom.  Great Hog on all levels.

Awesome, great to hear!
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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2016, 10:01:03 am »

Dean's weight is good weight I assure you.  His quickness and agility are improving also.  I have a special interest in Daytreon. My son was a LT at Fayetteville when Daytreon was a DE at Northside.  He's fun to watch.  A lot of these guys don't start to fill out until they're 19-20 years old.  Coach Herbert catches them at the right time and they just balloon up in muscle mass.   That's Coach Herbert's special talent.  Seeing how and when they can add the mass.  Don't be skeptical of Daytreon's weigh.  It's good weight and he's working hard.  He's also tearing it up in the classroom.  Great Hog on all levels.
It would be great to see Daytreon blow up and contribute on the line.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2016, 01:41:17 pm »

Daytreon Dean up 23 pounds. This is a lot of weight, and very skeptical it is all muscle. Perhaps too lax this summer, or they are wanting him to be stronger at the line, and playing more inside at tackle or be a run stopping DE.

You should not make statements like that based solely on numbers with zero actual knowledge.
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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2016, 03:01:55 pm »

You should not make statements like that based solely on numbers with zero actual knowledge.

Never claimed I had any inside knowledge and deferred to those that did. I do have actual knowledge on nutrition and that it is hard, but not impossible to to gain that much good weight in 6 months time. I listed more positive potential reasons for that than any negatives. As for the individual, all we have is solely the numbers.

My commentary there is akin to commenting on why Austin will have an incompletion. Perhaps he was inaccurate, maybe he got hit when he threw, maybe the receiver and him were not on the same page, maybe he threw it away to avoid a sack or risk an interception. Maybe the defender simply made a really good play. If all I have is the box score, then yes, I can't do anything but speculate on the list of possible reasons. Where it would be bad is if I assumed something negative about the player, such as assuming it was the OL's fault or assuming AA isn't accurate. Simply listing possible reasons for the outcome, especially when most of the possible outcomes are good things I would not think is bashing since I make no inclination as to what the correct answer is.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2016, 04:06:56 pm »

There was no reason to insinuate that Dean's weight gain was bad. And it's wrong to assume that he gained all that weight in a few months. Possible that he did, but you don't know whether the previous weight was from March, or December, or whenever. You don't know whether the previous weight was even right. The numbers they put on the roster vary widely in accuracy.

I know this much. Dean had shoulder surgery after his senior season in high school. He was unable to work out 100% for a long time. Now he is getting full benefit of the weight training program.

Now on the other end of this discussion - We've seen plenty of players make rapid gains in the past few years.

Bell 225 to 253
Brown 221 to 262
Collins 200 to 216
Colquitt 215 to 245
Gaines 186 to 200
Gibson 315 to 343
Greenlaw 206 to 222
Froholdt 280 to 299
Hackett 205 to 231
Hall 245 to 261
Hodge 301 to 340
Lewis 235 to 258
Peavey 200 to 212
Pettway 190 to 205
Pulley 197 to 210
Ramirez 172 to 195
Reynolds 190 to 210
Rossi 183 to 207
Skipper 311 to 331
Smothers 296 to 313
Toliver 165 to 192 <= !!!
Tretola 315 to 350
Voelzke 220 to 247
Wise 240 to 265
Watts 260 to 288
J. Williams 205 to 220

Some of these players made their biggest gains soon after getting into the Arkansas training regimen. Some did it coming off injury. Some weren't even real -- like Tretola, who never really weighed 315.
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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2016, 08:49:04 pm »

There was no reason to insinuate that Dean's weight gain was bad. And it's wrong to assume that he gained all that weight in a few months.

Agreed and agreed. I hope nobody in this thread insinuated his weight was bad. I admit I listed as a possible option, but I have zero desire to bash a player or even remotely hint that they aren't giving it their all. If you interpret my post as insinuating such a thing, let me know and I will modify it because that's never the intention. As a mod, I can believe you've read a lot of player bashing and rightfully should be out to make sure it doesn't happen; however, I think you are projecting things into my posts that aren't there.

Also, yes, it would be wrong to assume that he gained it in a few months. The correct assumption is that he gained it when they last reported weights which would have come in typically around early Jan though the date isn't set in stone.

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Possible that he did, but you don't know whether the previous weight was from March, or December, or whenever. You don't know whether the previous weight was even right. The numbers they put on the roster vary widely in accuracy.

Very true. They also vary in time, so while something may be accurate when made and reported, it could easily be 5 pound off each month after. However, I'm not going to assume that the University of Arkansas is lying to us and instead will trust their numbers until better numbers come out (arrests, combines, etc...)

I know this much. Dean had shoulder surgery after his senior season in high school. He was unable to work out 100% for a long time. Now he is getting full benefit of the weight training program.

Now on the other end of this discussion - We've seen plenty of players make rapid gains in the past few years.

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Some of these players made their biggest gains soon after getting into the Arkansas training regimen. Some did it coming off injury. Some weren't even real -- like Tretola, who never really weighed 315.
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Also true. What I'm going off of is general studies about fitness and rules of thumb such as can be found here

http://stronglifts.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain-in-1-month-naturally/

Now, the first thing to note is this is talking about averages. It is safe to assume that college athletes are going to be above average in that regard. Further, as you also mention, somebody who hasn't worked worked out will be able to have bigger gains that somebody who has been consistently working out.

If we ignore changes in water weight (or bodily waste weight as well), then we have bone, fat, and muscle weight. I have no idea how much weight change happens due to bone density changes, so I'm also going to ignore it for now, but somebody with more information, feel free to chirp in. So, that leaves us with muscle and fat. If we assume that he had 6 months to do this (i.e. assuming the UA isn't lying to us), then that is 23 pounds in 6 months. For an "average" person, that would be 12 pounds of muscle, but 11 pounds of fat. If we assume he is around 20% body fat, which sounds reasonable to me for a DL player, then maintaining the same overall composition would be adding 20 pounds of lean mass and ~4 pounds of fat. So, that would be asking him to get nearly twice the muscle gain (assuming it is all muscle, recall, bone mass is going play some factor but I'm not sure how much) of an average person. If it is true that he has only recently been able to work out heavily and we assume that college athletes are going to be better than average, then especially if bone mass makes up something like 4 pounds of that as well, (did see something where bones are 15-20% of body weight) now we are down to him only gaining ~16 pounds of muscle which is only a bit more than the average person and is a reasonable amount. He could be at 10% body fat and make that work. However, that is at the upper realm of what a body can do.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2016, 06:06:30 am »

What a lot of people may not understand is that all of these players are monitored on a daily basis.  They had one week off at the beginning of the summer and they will get one week off just before fall camp.  During all this time, their weights and diets are constantly monitored.  I always knew that Coach Herbert kept in close contact with them regarding nutrition in addition to running workouts, but had not idea how much the nutrition was monitored until my son went through this offseason cycle.  If someone is not where they're supposed to be or working like they should be, Coach Herbert, Kiero Small, Tank Wright, or another member of the strength staff is quick to set them straight.  Basically what I'm saying is that if a player is up 20 or down 20 there is no reason to be alarmed.  They are headed in the direction the staff wants them to go. 
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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2016, 01:55:10 pm »

Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016-Summer 2016-Fall 2016

Agim                                                          288-285-289   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330-343-347-344
A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210-208-210-209   Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253-253-254
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185 -198-195-193   Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231-227-226
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230-217-214-222   Guidry                                                       286-289-294
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202-212-213-215   Gunter                                                       233-230-232
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280-270-257-251   Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230-215-215-233
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261-260 -252   Hale                                                                  220-217
Boteng                                                              -183-183   J. Hall          n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270-270-260-266
Brasuell                                                             215-218    T. Hall                                                                297-296
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252-261-269   Hammonds                                                  195-197-197
Capps                                                           320-307-309   Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293-286-275-282
Carter                                                      232-???-???-241   Harris                                                         240-253-255
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205-205-208-208   Hatcher       205-208-215-210-210-210-210-218-206-207
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202-209-209 -214   Hays                                                                290-294
J. Collins        160-169-175-171-180-172-172-172-171-173   Hedlund       n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165-165-172-171
Cornelius       n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202-211-212-212   Heinrich                                                    295-290-295
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204-190-190    Hobbs                                                               213-220
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206-212-215 -214   Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208-208-217-209
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265-251-274-281   B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325-332-333-335
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202-195-200-199    C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302-302-300
Decker                                                  267-n/a-249-249    K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250-252-255
Dodson         n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202-205-208-208   Jean-Baptiste                                          220-228-231
Edwards                                                              203-205   B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184-188-193
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242-248-246-245    H. Johnson                                                 250-248-248
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191-195-195-198    T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290-287-280-284
Enlow                                                                 203-200   C. Jones       n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235-248-248-249
Eugene          n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235-234-235-235   J. Jones                                                      180-182-184
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172-n/a-171-176   Keaton                                            ???-174-??? -175-183
Froholdt         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309-314-318   Kelly                                                            260-256-258

Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235-238-248-252   Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312-314-312-319
LaFrance                                                   235-254-255   Ramirez                                                         275-289-299
Lagrone                                                                  215   Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230-232-228
Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275-???-278-280   Raulerson                                                                   301
Lewis          235-258-260-256-258-273-279-276-275-274   Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180-175-175-175
Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210-210-217-210   Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215-218-217-211
Limpert                                                                   176   Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175-170-172-178
Lindsey                                                                   184   Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255-252-255-256
Lucas          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189-192-192-190   Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303-306-306
Madden                                               226-???-226-230   Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203-202-200-197
Malone                                                      295-294-296   Skipper             n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331-326-322-319
Marks          n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295-298-298-303   M. Smith                                                         197-196-195
Marshall                                                   -270-293-299   TJ Smith            n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284-280-285
McClure                                                                  219   Sone                                                          ???-???-272-277
McFain        n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187-186-184-187   Sprinkle           215-231-235-237-241-243-255-255-240-256
McPherson   n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205-210-210-208   Stewart             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163-163-164
Merrick         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329-326-327   Storey              n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216-215-212
Miller                                           193-193-194-199-197   Taylor                                                         ???-???-???-245
Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207-216-213-215   Toliver               n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186-181-184-185
Morgan        n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195-195-193-193   Town                                                          ???-???-???-214
O'Grady        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246-248-251   Tutt                                                                              177
Peavey       n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204-203-203-203   D. Walker                                                         210-207-208
Pettway        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205-218-216   K. Walker          240-244-240-246-247-250-256-251-237-240
Phillips                                                             222-232   Wallace             n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317-326-332-335
Proctor                                                                   211   Watts                n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a-292-293
Pulley           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194-195-198   Whaley                                                            210-217-216

Josh Williams     n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237-241-252-249
R. Williams         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215-224-225-223
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262-262-262-260
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272-280-273-271
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2016, 04:12:07 pm »

We need to give benny a way to post a spreadsheet, or post in columns, or something.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2016, 04:29:03 pm »

We need to give benny a way to post a spreadsheet, or post in columns, or something.

Does it look funky in the mobile version or something? Screenshot below of what I see. Anytime I'm on the desktop version, even on a smaller tablet screen, the formatting still looks fine for me.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2016, 04:32:08 pm »

Does it look funky in the mobile version or something? Screenshot below of what I see. Anytime I'm on the desktop version, even on a smaller tablet screen, the formatting still looks fine for me.

Looks like crap on my smaller tablet, the second column of names fall in with the first.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2016, 04:44:11 pm »

Does it look funky in the mobile version or something? Screenshot below of what I see. Anytime I'm on the desktop version, even on a smaller tablet screen, the formatting still looks fine for me.

I'm on desktop and it isn't aligned properly on mine either. Your screenshot looks fine though, just too small to read, at least for me. ;)
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2016, 05:02:50 pm »

Looks like crap on my smaller tablet, the second column of names fall in with the first.

Strange. Not sure how to fix a problem that literally doesn't show up for me. Somebody out there feel free to take my post and modify that other people can better read it.
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2016, 05:06:25 pm »

Eh, some of the allignment is off when I delete the second column and obviously the alphabeticalness is lost. That's as much extra work as I care to put in though.

Fall 12-Spring-13-Fall 13-Spring 14 - Fall 14- Spring 15-Fall 2015-Spring 2016-Summer 2016-Fall 2016

Agim                                                          288-285-289
   Gibson         n/a-n/a- n/a- 315-343-337-330-343-347-344
A. Allen        n/a-n/a-200- 215-212-210-210-208-210-209   
Gragg          n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253-253-254
Troy Allison   n/a-n/a-n/a-n/a- 180-180-185 -198-195-193   
Greenlaw    n/a-n/a- n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231-227-226
Antwine        n/a- n/a-211-215-220-223-230-217-214-222   
Guidry                                                       286-289-294
Baker           n/a-n/a- 202-196-199-202-202-212-213-215   
Gunter                                                       233-230-232
Beanum:       n/a-n/a-255-267-265-271-280-270-257-251   
Hackett       n/a-n/a- n/a -205-231-232-230-215-215-233
Bell              n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261-260 -252   
Hale                                                                  220-217
Boteng                                                              -183-183   
J. Hall          n/a-n/a- n/a -235-245-261-270-270-260-266
Brasuell                                                             215-218   
T. Hall                                                                297-296
Cantrell         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252-261-269   
Hammonds                                                  195-197-197
Capps                                                           320-307-309   
Hannah       n/a-n/a- n/a -301-292-288-293-286-275-282
Carter                                                      232-???-???-241   
Harris                                                         240-253-255
Colbert         n/a -n/a -n/a- 190-200-205-205-205-208-208   
Hatcher       205-208-215-210-210-210-210-218-206-207
Coley:           n/a- n/a-177-191-201-202-202-209-209 -214   
Hays                                                                290-294
J. Collins        160-169-175-171-180-172-172-172-171-173   
Hedlund       n/a-n/a- n/a-170-170-170-165-165-172-171
Cornelius       n/a- n/a- 175-192-201-195-202-211-212-212   
Heinrich                                                    295-290-295
Dalton           n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204-190-190   
Hobbs                                                               213-220
Day               n/a-n/a-n/a- 210-206-212-206-212-215 -214   
Hollister      n/a-n/a- n/a-205-208-207-208-208-217-209
D. Dean         n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a- n/a-254-265-251-274-281   
B. Jackson  n/a-n/a-n/a- 334-334-324-325-332-333-335
DJ Dean         n/a-n/a-180-198-200-200-202-195-200-199   
C. Jackson  n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302-302-300
Decker                                                  267-n/a-249-249   
K. Jackson   n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250-252-255
Dodson         n/a -n/a -186-201-211-201-202-205-208-208   
Jean-Baptiste                                          220-228-231
Edwards                                                              203-205   
B. Johnson   n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184-188-193
Ellis               n/a-n/a-224-237-244-237-242-248-246-245   
H. Johnson                                                 250-248-248
Emrich           n/a- n/a-???-???-185-193-191-195-195-198   
T.Johnson    245-255-258-263-255-273-290-287-280-284
Enlow                                                                 203-200   
C. Jones       n/a-n/a- 240-241-245-???-235-248-248-249
Eugene          n/a- n/a-n/a-222-236-236-235-234-235-235   
J. Jones                                                      180-182-184
Floyd              n/a-n/a- n/a-190-190-175-172-n/a-171-176   
Keaton                                            ???-174-??? -175-183
Froholdt         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309-314-318   
Kelly                                                            260-256-258

Kraus          n/a-n/a- n/a-260-252-234-235-238-248-252   
Ragnow           n/a-n/a- n/a-292-300-311-312-314-312-319
LaFrance                                                   235-254-255   
Ramirez                                                         275-289-299
Lagrone                                                                  215   
Ramsey           n/a-n/a- n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230-232-228
Ledbetter      n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-271-275-275-???-278-280   
Raulerson                                                                   301
Lewis          235-258-260-256-258-273-279-276-275-274   
Reed                n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-172-180-175-175-175
Liddell        n/a-n/a- n/-a-193-205-209-210-210-217-210   
Reynolds          n/a-n/a- 190-210-208-212-215-218-217-211
Limpert                                                                   176   
Richardson       n/a-n/a- 152-161-161-165-175-170-172-178
Lindsey                                                                   184   
Roesler            n/a-n/a- 232-246-250-250-255-252-255-256
Lucas          n/a-n/a- n/a-185-189-203-189-192-192-190   
Rogers             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303-306-306
Madden                                               226-???-226-230   
Rossi               n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a -183-207-203-202-200-197
Malone                                                      295-294-296   
Skipper             n/a-n/a-305-315-316-311-331-326-322-319
Marks          n/a-n/a-297-303-303-308-295-298-298-303   
M. Smith                                                         197-196-195
Marshall                                                   -270-293-299   
TJ Smith            n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284-280-285
McClure                                                                  219   
Sone                                                          ???-???-272-277
McFain        n/a-n/a- 170-179-180-180-187-186-184-187   
Sprinkle           215-231-235-237-241-243-255-255-240-256
McPherson   n/a-n/a- n/a-210-205-207-205-210-210-208   
Stewart             n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163-163-164
Merrick         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329-326-327   
Storey              n/a-n/a- n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216-215-212
Miller                                           193-193-194-199-197   
Taylor                                                         ???-???-???-245
Mitchell       n/a-n/a-200-205-212-211-207-216-213-215   
Toliver               n/a-n/a- 165-192-186-186-186-181-184-185
Morgan        n/a-n/a-184-193-194-192-195-195-193-193   
Town                                                          ???-???-???-214
O'Grady        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246-248-251   
Tutt                                                                              177
Peavey       n/a-n/a- 200-212-202-203-204-203-203-203   
D. Walker                                                         210-207-208
Pettway        n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205-218-216   
K. Walker          240-244-240-246-247-250-256-251-237-240
Phillips                                                             222-232   
Wallace             n/a-n/a- 305-315-322-316-317-326-332-335
Proctor                                                                   211   
Watts                n/a-n/a- n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a-292-293
Pulley           n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194-195-198   
Whaley                                                            210-217-216

Josh Williams     n/a-n/a- n/a-225-240-243-237-241-252-249
R. Williams         n/a-n/a- n/a-n/a-n/a -205-215-224-225-223
Winston            250-254-265-264-255-272-262-262-262-260
Wise Jr             240-265-275-267-272-271-272-280-273-271
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Re: Roster Comparisons
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2017, 02:16:29 pm »

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Adcock:                                  288
Agim                                          288-285-289-286
Allen        200- 215-212-210-210-208-210-209-215
Barkley                                175
Barned                           172
Bell            n/a-n/a-n/a-225-253-261-260 -252-258
Boteng                                             -183-183-190 
Brasuell                                             215-218-202
Brown                                 175
Calloway                           188   
Cantrell     n/a- n/a- n/a-248-250-252-261-269-264
Capps                                         320-307-309-300
Carter                                    232-???-???-241-239   
Clary                              286
Clenin                                         300
Coley:       177-191-201-202-202-209-209 -214-211
Collins                            240 
Cornelius    175-192-201-195-202-211-212-212-212
Curl                                193
Curtis                                          181
Dalton         n/a- n/a-n/a-197-197-204-190-190-193   
Decker                                  267-n/a-249-249-253   
DePrato                            222
Edwards                                              203-205-212   
Enlow                                                  203-200-202   
Eugene        n/a-222-236-236-235-234-235-235-240
Fisher                            234 
Froholdt       n/a-n/a- n/a-280-299-309-314-318-311
Gibson         n/a- 315-343-337-330-343-347-344-333   
Gragg          n/a -n/a-250-255-255-253-253-254-254
Greenlaw     n/a -n/a-n/a- 206-222-231-227-226-229
Guidry                                           286-289-294-279
Gulledge                             175
Gunter                                           233-230-232-232
Hale                                                     220-217-219
J. Hall          n/a -235-245-261-270-270-260-266-263
T. Hall                                                  297-296-296
Hammonds                                     195-197-197-195
Hannah         n/a -301-292-288-293-286-275-282-305
D. Harris                                         240-253-255-242
J. Harris              n/a -201-212-223-220-224-235-221
Hayden                              191         
Hays                                                     290-294-298
Hedlund         n/a-170-170-170-165-165-172-171-164
Heinrich                                          295-290-295-293
Hyatt                          188
Hobbs                                                   213-220-220
Horn                                 329
B. Jackson     n/a- 334-334-324-325-332-333-335-339
C. Jackson      n/a- n/a-n/a-295-303-302-302-300-298
Ke. Jackson     n/a- n/a-n/a-240-249-250-252-255-253
Ko. Jackson                       214
Jean-Baptiste                                   220-228-231-231
B. Johnson       n/a-n/a-n/a-185-175-184-188-193-185
H. Johnson                                       250-248-248-256
J. Jones                                            180-182-184-185
Keaton                                      174-??? -175-183-183
Kelly                                                260-256-258-268
Kraus              n/a-260-252-234-235-238-248-252-248   
LaFrance                                          235-254-255-239   
Liddell            n/-a-193-205-209-210-210-217-210-211   
Limpert                                                          176-180   
Lindsey                                                          184-194   
Lucas               n/a-185-189-203-189-192-192-190-195   
Madden                                       226-???-226-230-225   
Malone                                              295-294-296-304   
Marshall                                           -270-293-299-310
Martin                            219
Mazza                            173
McClellion                            172   
McPherson         n/a-210-205-207-205-210-210-208-192   
Merrick              n/a-n/a-350-335-355-329-326-327-322   
Miller                                   193-193-194-199-197-201   
Morgan                                 220
Morris                            199
Munson                            203
Nance                               182
O'Grady             n/a-n/a-n/a-230-240-246-248-251-253   
Patton                            236
Paul                               205
Pennington                              210
Pettway              n/a-n/a-n/a-190-205-205-218-216-220   
Phillips                                                      222-232-224   
Proctor                                                             211-212   
Pulley                  n/a-n/a n/a-197-210-194-195-198-196   
Ragnow             n/a-292-300-311-312-314-312-319-317
P. Ramirez                                           275-289-299-308
S. Ramirez                180-172-195-202-202-201-198-198
Ramsey                      n/a-210-222-220-n/a-230-232-228
Raulerson                                                          301-313
G. Richardson                            239
K. Richardson     152-161-161-165-175-170-172-178-185
Roesler             232-246-250-250-255-252-255-256-252
Rogers               n/a-n/a-318-312-312-303-306-306-309
Silver                                   235
M. Smith                                              197-196-195-202
TJ Smith              n/a-n/a-n/a- 281-283-284-280-285-290
Sone                                                   -???-272-277-272
Stewart                n/a-n/a- n/a-190-165-163-163-164162
Storey                n/a- n/a-211-211-211-216-215-212-212
Taylor                                                  -???-???-245-258
Toliver                165-192-186-186-186-181-184-185-185
Tutt                                                                   177-179
Wagner                                      311
D. Walker                                             210-207-208-215
Wallace               305-315-322-316-317-326-332-335-337
Warnock                                    190
Warren                                    181
Watts                  n/a- 260-288-295-304-n/a-292-293-309
Whaley                                                 210-217-216-216
D. Williams                           220
M. Williams                           218
Young                              202
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