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Johnny Football, all things
« on: November 10, 2012, 05:47:41 pm »

The guy is scary good!!!
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 05:50:38 pm »

He's unreal
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 05:55:37 pm »

He's the next Tebow, as far as media hype goes
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2012, 06:01:12 pm »

Barner.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 06:06:03 pm »

Um no.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 06:10:50 pm »

Yea, and he can throw..unlike Tebow
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 06:22:12 pm »

He's the best player in the SEC period.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 06:23:22 pm »

what is scary is we have 3 more years of this guy.  he is the classic college qb with no chance of a nfl career to leave early for.  hello cfl, may break flutie's records.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 06:24:05 pm »

Um no.
Then who should win? Geno? The only player I can think of that might be more deserving is Oregon's running back.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 07:34:46 pm »

Barner, Klein, Manziel, Murray?
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2012, 07:35:53 pm »

How tall is he???
He seems like an old school Doug Flutie.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2012, 07:41:12 pm »

How tall is he???
He seems like an old school Doug Flutie.

6' 1"

he may be able to be the 2nd coming of steve young.

if he survives 3 more yrs of runs and scrambles.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2012, 07:42:56 pm »

6' 1"

he may be able to be the 2nd coming of steve young.

if he survives 3 more yrs of runs and scrambles.
He has more height than I thought.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 07:44:47 pm »

They won't give it to a Defensive player, but to me Clowney at South Carolina should probably win the Heisman. 

Clowney has had the type of impact at the collegiate level that Suh at Nebraska had.  Clowney and Suh are the type of collegiate Defensive players that only come along ever so often (very rarely do those type of Defensive players come along).   
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2012, 09:05:01 am »

Then who should win? Geno? The only player I can think of that might be more deserving is Oregon's running back.

If things continue as they have been, what about Klein? Currently the #2 team in the country (since the new polls aren't out yet). Besides that, he's paid his dues (not a frosh).
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 11:23:03 am by JethroB. »
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 10:30:07 am »

6' 1"

he may be able to be the 2nd coming of steve young.

if he survives 3 more yrs of runs and scrambles.

Agreed.  With all the running he's done he's very fortunate he hasn't been injured yet.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 11:36:06 am »

6' 1"

he may be able to be the 2nd coming of steve young.

if he survives 3 more yrs of runs and scrambles.
Andre Ware said he was more like 5'10".  FWIW
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 11:42:06 am »

Yea, and he can throw..unlike Tebow

Actually Tim was a very efficient throwing  the ball at Florida

Totals   games 55   OB Rating 170.8   985   661   comp% 67.1   9,286   88   

 
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2012, 11:44:51 am »

I was told when we had Dmac, that nobody could win Heisman if he didn't contribute toward some kind of sec championship.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2012, 11:53:05 am »

Just for comparison.

2007 Tebow's Heisman year 32 passing tds and 23 rushing. 3286 passing yards and 895 rushing
Manziel so far this year, 18 passing tds and 15 rushing. 2780 passing yards and 1015 rushing
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 12:12:36 pm by Boog41 »
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2012, 01:05:32 pm »

Actually Tim was a very efficient throwing  the ball at Florida

Totals   games 55   OB Rating 170.8   985   661   comp% 67.1   9,286   88

I wonder how many of those passes considered in that 67.1% were 5 yard jump passes for td's.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2012, 01:15:31 pm »

There are some really talented young qb's out there these days, Manziel has to be top 3 already.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2012, 01:22:06 pm »

I was told when we had Dmac, that nobody could win Heisman if he didn't contribute toward some kind of sec championship.

That changed with Tebow but still kind of holds true for people around the nation.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2012, 04:50:17 pm »

Oregon has the best QB and RB in the country.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2012, 04:56:25 pm »

Oregon has the best QB and RB in the country.
Against weak competition. Manziel is better than both. Imagine aTm playing that schedule. They would be undefeated.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2012, 04:56:40 pm »

Andre Ware said he was more like 5'10".  FWIW

well 6' 1" is  bio height. 

"he could be any where from 5'6" to 6'3" depending on which convenience store he is going out of"
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 05:12:47 pm »

Kid is good, without a doubt.  My vote would go to Klein though.  He is everything on that team, the passer, the rusher, the leader.  He has also been doing it consistently over the last two years. 

If I had to predict the Heisman next year though, Manziel would be at the top of the list.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2012, 01:43:12 pm »

Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravisBGID
Klein is an average Big 12 QB this year, by stats Manziel is best SEC QB in history. Uh, that matters.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2012, 07:09:14 pm »

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel
I love seeing SEC fans rallying behind Manziel for Heisman, knowing if this were 12 months ago he'd be a product of gimmicky Big 12offense.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2012, 04:48:16 pm »

and MISSES.   Thank you lord.   Enough is enough of this hype.  He is definitely a very impressive QB especially for being a fresh but that was total idioticy.
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2012, 04:49:03 pm »

Old school straight ahead.
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2012, 04:52:06 pm »

Old school straight ahead.

Last time I saw that was at a high school football game when they call out someones name to try and kick at halftime to win a $50 gift certificate.
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2012, 01:44:37 pm »

Manziel sitting pretty late in Heisman race

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“It was not my thinking, it was the university’s thinking,” Sumlin said, smiling. “You guys think I do everything when it comes to football, but that’s not the case. We have a marketing department. I don’t make the schedule either. There are a lot of moving parts when something like that happens, and the university and our marketing department made that decision.”

As a 17-year Heisman voter, I can vouch that it’s a smart decision, too. The more information this time of year the better...
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Re: Johnny Football, all things
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2012, 11:43:22 pm »

I was told when we had Dmac, that nobody could win Heisman if he didn't contribute toward some kind of sec championship.


We were also told in 2006 when DMC was a finalist and a Sophomore, that no one under a Junior could win - next year when DMC was a Junior, SOPH Tebow wins over Junior DMC....now they want to give it to a Freshman?

Heisman has been dumbed down into an ESPN hype contest...
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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2012, 10:20:47 pm »

We were also told in 2006 when DMC was a finalist and a Sophomore, that no one under a Junior could win - next year when DMC was a Junior, SOPH Tebow wins over Junior DMC....now they want to give it to a Freshman?

Heisman has been dumbed down into an ESPN hype contest...

 I have also heard that a Freshman is not eligible for the Heisman Trophy.
Does anyone know if that is true or not? I have looked up some past winners and none
I have found so far were Freshmen. Maybe there has never been a Freshman winner before I don't know. I got to see Johnny Football in person, and he cut up our defense in the 1st quarter like a hot knife through butter. It took our defense the entire 1st half to get the feel and speed of him down. And to stop rushing past him and letting him get outside the rushing lane's. Once the defense got him under some control we still gave up 9 points to him. He put on one heck of a show in Bryant Denny Stadium that evening, the young man is one heck of a athlete and will win a Heisman Trophy before he is done at Texas A&M. If not this year then next year for sure.
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2012, 01:22:40 pm »

Paul Finebaum ‏@finebaum
Bama a favorite (5/8) to win BCSNC & would be a 10 point favorite over N Dame. Johnny Manziel a 2/5 favorite to win Heisman (via @BovadaLV)

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« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2012, 09:42:23 pm »

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
Crazy stat. SEC RUSHING leaders: 1) J. Manziel 2) T. Gurley 3) M. Gillislee. Also leads SEC w 19 rushing TDs.
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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2012, 09:44:37 pm »

He is no question the best player in the country right now. He should win and I hate aTm.
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« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2012, 09:55:13 pm »

No love for the plow boys here either, but he is the hands down best this year.
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2012, 01:52:05 pm »

He is no question the best player in the country right now. He should win and I hate aTm.
Give him arkansas OL and he becomes average, give Tyler wilson A&M's ol and he a got a chance winning the Heisman.
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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2012, 10:23:50 am »

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/56643/sec-heisman-watch-week-14-2

Aaron Murray joins Manziel on the ESPN SEC bloggers list.

He has a chance to be the second SEC QB to land a win over Bama and lead his team against Notre Dame for all the marbles (after the vote and presentation).
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2012, 10:57:40 am »

He is no question the best player in the country right now. He should win and I hate aTm.

This.  I hate Texas A&M, their fan base, and their self-delusion that they're a football powerhouse despite their history, but Manziel should be running away with this thing. 
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2012, 11:01:06 am »

http://www.aggiesports.com/football/article_a1fa0f0e-7167-5c19-bb75-0809bd258335.html

Cessna: Manziel made first press conference look easy

He certainly sounded genuine, and it didn't matter if it was Kenny Ryan from Manziel's hometown Kerrville Daily Times asking the question or Chris Dufresne of the Los Angeles Times and Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated. Manziel's answers were honest and forthright, and his voice never wavered. His delivery had the bounce he's used hundreds of times to avoid the pass rush, and at times, as you listened, you could see the smile the cameras caught on the sideline after one of the 43 touchdowns he's been responsible for this season.
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2012, 01:17:28 pm »

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/56689/the-heisman-should-be-manziels-to-lose

In 12 straight weeks (Texas A&M didn’t have a bye week) the slippery Manziel racked up 3,419 passing yards with 24 touchdowns to eight interceptions and rushed for 1,181 yards and 19 more scores. He’s second in the SEC in passing yards and first in rushing. He also guided Texas A&M to a 10-win season in its first year in the SEC and was undefeated on the road.

His 4,600 yards of total offense (and counting) topped Cam Newton’s mark of 4,327 yards, which used to be an SEC record. He already has more passing and rushing yards than Tim Tebow did during his Heisman season in 2007 and has thrown for 565 more yards than Newton did during his 2010 Heisman season. He won’t touch Robert Griffin III’s 4,293 passing yards from his 2011 Heisman year, but he crushed him in the rushing department by 482 yards.

Manziel has had three games in which he had at least 300 passing yards and 100 rushing yards, the most for any player in a single season since 2000. The rest of the nation has had eight such games the entire season, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Manziel has also gained 784 rushing yards on scrambles. That's 43 more yards scrambling than Collin Klein, Braxton Miller and Marcus Mariota combined. He has also scrambled for 35 first downs this season, including 20 first downs on third down, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

Not voting Manziel No. 1 at this point is almost comical...
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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2012, 09:42:16 am »

Now that the SEC and other teams have a year of tape on him let's see how next year goes before we anoint him the next coming.  Cam Newton for example did awesome his first year in the SEC. he dominated his first year in the NFL and now look at him.  Defenses learn and adjust.
He's a good player but that scrambling is going to get him hurt. It almost happened in his last game.

My vote is for Mantitao.
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« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2012, 10:33:01 am »

Barner.
Yep.  He is the best player but he won't win.
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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2012, 01:25:40 pm »

Now that the SEC and other teams have a year of tape on him let's see how next year goes before we anoint him the next coming.  Cam Newton for example did awesome his first year in the SEC. he dominated his first year in the NFL and now look at him.  Defenses learn and adjust.
He's a good player but that scrambling is going to get him hurt. It almost happened in his last game.

My vote is for Mantitao.

So you wouldn't vote for Manziel because he won't be good in future years?  That's even worse than the geezers who won't vote for him because he's a freshman. 
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« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2012, 02:23:41 pm »


 
So you wouldn't vote for Manziel because he won't be good in future years?  That's even worse than the geezers who won't vote for him because he's a freshman. 
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