Nationally known program

[jkcrunch]

This morning you guys hit it right had MJ been at OU he would have had serious Heisman and national exposure.   It is the one area where I do not see enough negative post.    The marketing of the U of A is horrible.   We had one of the best athlete to ever play in the SEC and yet we did nothing to promote him in a national market, maybe that is because we are cheap.   I will not Oregon did it right but when they plastered a big poster of Joey Harrington in NY and LA that got buzz nationally but it cost money.   No one can tell me that if we had launched some campaign two years ago that Matt would not have at least finished in the top 5 in voting especailly after national TV performances against Texas and Kentucky.  Yeah he would not have won but the boost to recruiting could be huge.   Think big time you'll be big time.

[PennHOG]

I seem to recall them promoting Shawn Andrews a bunch.  Jones sort of promoted himself.  I live in Pennsylvannia and I got to watch so many nationally televised games.  Why do you think UofA was on so much?  Matt Jones.

If they were not on CBS they were on ESPN.  I had the good pleasure of watching all three ESPN overtime games. 

Plus, even if they had plastered Matt Jones picture on a building on Times Square, I don't think that would change the fact that he was considered a project going form QB to WR.  If they really wanted to promote him they should have allowed him to play more at WR but then we would have won even less games last year.

Question.  Does anyone know whether Oregon funded that Joey Harrington picture in times square?

[MBAHog]

I seem to recall them promoting Shawn Andrews a bunch. Jones sort of promoted himself. I live in Pennsylvannia and I got to watch so many nationally televised games. Why do you think UofA was on so much? Matt Jones.

If they were not on CBS they were on ESPN. I had the good pleasure of watching all three ESPN overtime games.

Plus, even if they had plastered Matt Jones picture on a building on Times Square, I don't think that would change the fact that he was considered a project going form QB to WR. If they really wanted to promote him they should have allowed him to play more at WR but then we would have won even less games last year.

Question. Does anyone know whether Oregon funded that Joey Harrington picture in times square?

I'm pretty sure Nike funded that.  They sponsor the Oregon football team.

[Macgyver_Hawg]

The key to all of this National Exposure is having a TEN win season.

In 1998, we needed to beat Miss State
In 2002, beat Kentucky or Minn - or both and you got 11
In 2003, win something in October

Ten win seasons get you respect from media (ESPN, etc), exposure, and recruits.
Bubble teams do not.

Think about our recruiting had 2002 and 2003 been back to back 10 win seasons.

[WindyCityHog]

So embarrassingly true....

[hogsanity]

hate to bring it up but the fact that we play 2 games or more a year in a 60year old crumbling stadium over 200 miles off campus doesnt help. 

Plus why should the athletics program be any different than the whole state.  We cant get production plants here becuase the people wont or cant put together attractive incentive plans to do so.  I have a client who wanted to bring a 400 employee mini-steel plant to Central Ar all he asked was a one year tax exemption in exchange for a 40 year commitment from him and they politicians wouldnt do it. 

[junkyardhog]

i'm just wondering out loud. but with 5 wins and a few stupid azz fumbles, do you think he would be Heisman material??

i agree totally on the marketing aspect though!  You can sell darn if you package it right

[treyschaap]

War Memorial has nothing to do with it!  CBS televised the LSU game there every other year.  Arkansas has lost one game in Little Rock since 1998.

[g.lynn]

WMS gives credibility to the National perception that Arkansas is small time.  Ever hear of "perception becomes reality"?  The Hogs should NOT play any televised games in WMS.  It's a killer for recruiting out of state! 

[Jim Harris]

WMS gives credibility to the National perception that Arkansas is small time.  Ever hear of "perception becomes reality"?  The Hogs should NOT play any televised games in WMS.  It's a killer for recruiting out of state! 

really? On TV it doesn't look much different that Notre Dame Stadium, if the don't mention that only 50,000 are there. Of course, even with a stadium expansion, ND hasn't brought in much in the way of recruiting lately either.

Frankly, I think Houston Nutt is a killer for out-of-state recruiting.

[treyschaap]

I hate stadium debates......If the university would of scheduled 3 games a year in Little Rock, there would be another deck on the stadium.

[Macgyver_Hawg]

There's no need for two Razorback football stadiums.  There's a lot of people up in NWA that travel to LR for games too.  I sat two rows up from people that live in Fayetteville that I recognized.

[idochog]

I hate stadium debates......If the university would of scheduled 3 games a year in Little Rock, there would be another deck on the stadium.

And if somebody in central Arkansas would have given some acres to build a land grant university back in late 1860s, then we could avoid the stadium debate entirely.

Yep, Batesville and Fayetteville were the only 2 to step up to the plate.

[EL' MAHOG]

Not to mention, at OU look at the surrounding cast!  What would his stats look like, he didn't have to share at UA.

[g.lynn]

WMS gives credibility to the National perception that Arkansas is small time.  Ever hear of "perception becomes reality"?  The Hogs should NOT play any televised games in WMS.  It's a killer for recruiting out of state! 

really? On TV it doesn't look much different that Notre Dame Stadium, if the don't mention that only 50,000 are there. Of course, even with a stadium expansion, ND hasn't brought in much in the way of recruiting lately either.

Frankly, I think Houston Nutt is a killer for out-of-state recruiting.

I've been to seminars in Chicago, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, Wilmington, Dallas, and others following a televised game at WMS.  "Is that a high school stadium?" is a common remark made to me from others who know I'm from the Fayetteville area.  IMO out of state people don't know the Hogs play in two stadiums.  They believe what they see, and thats a small stadium.  A couple of years ago I gave my game tickets to my nephew visiting from Hot Springs.  The game was on ESPN.  RRS is a jewel that can change that national "perception becomes reality" attitude about Arkansas, if the UA marketing will just do it.

[Hoggysoprano]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans.  Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

[swinemaster]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans. Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

Come On, he would have consistently underthrown their receivers worse than he did ours.

[Hoggysoprano]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans. Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

Come On, he would have consistently underthrown their receivers worse than he did ours.

Did you happen to see where Jason White was drafted?  Jones was under costant pressure at Arkansas, he would not of been at OU, plus his ability to run would of made him even more popular. You anti Jones jackasses amaze me.

[junkyardhog]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans. Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

If jones had went to OU, he would have been a WR not a QB

[Hoggysoprano]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans. Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

If jones had went to OU, he would have been a WR not a QB

Wrong again, OU was the only other school other than ARkansas that recruited him for QB, that is why he almost went there rather than coming to Arkansas.

[junkyardhog]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans. Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

If jones had went to OU, he would have been a WR not a QB

Wrong again, OU was the only other school other than ARkansas that recruited him for QB, that is why he almost went there rather than coming to Arkansas.

so, just to get this straight, you are telling me (with a straight face) that Matt Jones would have been the starting QB at Oklahoma?

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[Hoggysoprano]

If Jones had went to OU he would of started instead of Jason White, they would of won three national championships and he would of won three Heismans. Instead he went here and kept Nutt from being fired.

If jones had went to OU, he would have been a WR not a QB

Wrong again, OU was the only other school other than ARkansas that recruited him for QB, that is why he almost went there rather than coming to Arkansas.

so, just to get this straight, you are telling me (with a straight face) that Matt Jones would have been the starting QB at Oklahoma?

Yes that is what I am telling you,

[junkyardhog]

larry, don't take that personally (seriously)

I found that pict and just HAD to use it   

while I don't think YOU are a dumbass, the statement could be considered that way!!   

[Hoggysoprano]

larry, don't take that personally

I found that pict and just HAD to use it

while I don't think YOU are a dumbass, the statement could be considered that way!!

I just think you are half a jackass, just kidding.  I really do think Matt was a better Qb that Jason White, White had  a great team, he was not great.