McShay & Mel Kiper rate Matt as worst pick in 1st round

[ReturnToDynasty?]

Comments from Todd McShay, ESPN:

"Jacksonville's selection of Matt Jones is the worst pick of the first round. He is a huge reach at No. 21. Since former Arkansas QB is making the transition to a receiver position, Jones is a developmental player and a second-round choice at best. His height, size, and speed make Jones an attractive prospect with good upside, but his negatives outweigh his positives for this high of a selection.
Although he proved he could catch at the Senior Bowl, Jones has no experience blocking, questionable practice habits and a flaky personality. He could develop into a Joe Jurevicius-type slot or No. 3 receiver."

Mel Kiper, Jr. has Matt as the biggest "reach" and Mike Williams as the biggest "value"

[mikeirwin]

Comments from Todd McShay, ESPN:

"Jacksonville's selection of Matt Jones is the worst pick of the first round. He is a huge reach at No. 21. Since former Arkansas QB is making the transition to a receiver position, Jones is a developmental player and a second-round choice at best. His height, size, and speed make Jones an attractive prospect with good upside, but his negatives outweigh his positives for this high of a selection.
Although he proved he could catch at the Senior Bowl, Jones has no experience blocking, questionable practice habits and a flaky personality. He could develop into a Joe Jurevicius-type slot or No. 3 receiver."

Mel Kiper, Jr. has Matt as the biggest "reach" and Mike Williams as the biggest "value"

Well, I guess that does it. Jack Del Rio should immediately resign. He has no credibility approving a stupid pick like that. 
McShay should be hired as the Jaguars GM. Kiper will coach the team. It's the only way to save that pathetic franchise.

[I'M EMBARRASSED]

I'm just glad that Mort was pimping MJ half as much as Kiper was pimping Mike Williams.

[Gman]

These guys don't know darn.. If they are so damn bright, why aren't they coaching a team somewhere, instead we are forced to listen to thier rediculous B/S day in and day out. 

[Macgyver_Hawg]

Matt will have an action figure in no time.  They act like a QB hasn't ever played another position before.

[Lando Calrissian]

I think it's absolutely hilarious Matt got picked up before Aaron Rodgers.

[Broken Trigger]

McShay needs to McShut up.  Oh, but of course i respect Mel Crapper's opinion, because let's just look at all his wonderful credentials to be a self-appointed football guru.  What was this guy before football, a couch potato.  Where did he play?  Where did he coach?  Where was he general manager?   

[Semper Hogelis]

Your right. What could Jack Del Rio know about the game. Its not like he played, or anything.

[TulsaHogFan]

I think some of you should just ignore the idiots on ESPN.  Mort is the only one i listen to, not because he pumps Ark, but rather because he goes more on actual stats that just broad ASSumptions.  Mort has our back, but i mean its not like ESPN has ever not helped Arkansas players. I am just going to let Matt show what he can do when he shows up in a Jaguar uniform.  I mean the kid is going to get touchdowns no worry there. 

The thing is i can't stand it when they talk about not being able to take a hit.  If the guys watched Matt the reason he does not take hits very often is because his legs are so long when someone tries to take him down they end up missing the guy.  You don't play for 4 years in the SEC and get away with never taking a hit.  Ask Hillis after his FIRST year.

THF

[arkjay19]

All the "experts" who are down on Matt Jones and don't expect him to do very well in the NFL haven't seem him play.  They say that he has good speed but question his lateral and hip movements to make reveiver route cuts, but people who have seen him play know that he has those talents and will do great in the NFL.

[weevilhogg]

flaky personality?

I'd like to hear them explain that.

[TulsaHogFan]

Flaky personality ? Read this...

http://www.jaguars.com/Story/4327.asp

[Biggus Piggus]

You know McShay is groping for ways to criticize Jones when he calls him a flake.  Since when did that enter into the evaluation?

Who the hell is McShay, anyway?  What made him an expert?  As far as I can tell he's just an anonymous blabbermouth.

The Jacksonville paper was kind to the home team, but the Orlando paper was not:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/11473871.htm

[Broken Trigger]

You know McShay is groping for ways to criticize Jones when he calls him a flake. Since when did that enter into the evaluation?

Who the hell is McShay, anyway? What made him an expert? As far as I can tell he's just an anonymous blabbermouth.

The Jacksonville paper was kind to the home team, but the Orlando paper was not:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/11473871.htm

Maybe Mel Krapper christened him an expert.  He might have studied Mel's book.

[sage_dragoon]

I don't know the guy's name but he was saying that Matt needed to lose some weight to be elusive in the NFL. MJ was the fastest man clocked in the 40 and quick in the cone drills and shuttle. He also had great acceleration, this guy looked and talked like a basketball analyst from the HOOD. He knew little about football and certainly knew little about MJ. MJ may need to learn the tricks of the trade as a receiver, but he needs NO coaching on being 'elusive.'

i believe that was Tory Holt, multi-pro bowler with the Rams...btw, he was high on clayton from OU

[tophawg19]

kipper was pissed because he wasn't ready when matt was picked and couldn't come up
with anything to say & when he did MORT. smoked him .made him look like the fool he is .
and if matt was black tory holt would have been all for him .

[pioneerhog]

Like this is really that much of a suprise, they have no buisness saying who a team should select or not select, if they are that good then they shouldbe the coaches.

[Broken Trigger]

Like this is really that much of a suprise, they have no buisness saying who a team should select or not select, if they are that good then they shouldbe the coaches.

Well said, pioneerhog.

[Amityvillehogger]

McShay Sucks, Kiper Swallows

[Flatfoot]

Kiper's radioactive hair gel is warping what brains he has left.  Kiper doesn't know weither to wind his butt or scratch his watch.  He is blow hard windbag and a few fries short of a happy meal.

[RebelliousHog]

I think that MJ can do very well in the NFL. I wish him nothing but the best.

Before we anoint him as the next great superstar let's give him a chance to prove himself in this very difficult league without heaping so much pressure on him. The d-back in this league are much different from anything he faced in his very brief stint on the college level as a wide reciever.

There have been many highly touted players who DID NOT pan out in the NFL. First rounders and Heisman Trophy winners included.

While I don't regard Kiper or any of the others as gospel, they have a legitimate arguement. Mj will need to prove himself in the NFL.

I think the flakey tag was uncalled for. MJ has obviously matured over the years. Besides at any posotion in the NFL it is not a real problem normally, except at QB. You rarely see a flake do well at QB.

Smite on. I'm justing stating my opinion. I'm not dissing MJ at all. I hope he proves all the naysayers wrong. IMO  I think he can do so.

[Flatfoot]

I think MJ will do well.  Give him some time and with his God given ability could be one of the best.  I wish him the best and will root for him always.

[Big Papa Satan]

Mel Kiper?  McSheen?  Who are these douchebags, again?

[mossfan3]

I read on ESPN that they plan on putting Jones outside with no slot man on his side.  They also said that Jacksonville's GM was sold on Matt when he showed up at the workout with with a punter to show that he can and will return punts.  Surely he didn't take Skinner.

[tophawg19]

yep that shows he can field short punts .

[Hoggysoprano]

kipper was pissed because he wasn't ready when matt was picked and couldn't come up
with anything to say & when he did MORT. smoked him .made him look like the fool he is .
and if matt was black tory holt would have been all for him .

This is true about Holt, Holt better be glad the Rams didn't get Matt, he would've been on the bench watching Matt and Bruce.

[Hoggysoprano]

I read on ESPN that they plan on putting Jones outside with no slot man on his side. They also said that Jacksonville's GM was sold on Matt when he showed up at the workout with with a punter to show that he can and will return punts. Surely he didn't take Skinner.

I'm sure it wasn't Skinner, they said a punter.

[tophawg19]

well if you don't look to hard ..... he might pass for one .

[Biggus Piggus]

How does Kiper so easily forget his late conversion to the Matt Jones bandwagon?  You guys remember it, don't you?  Now he's telling everyone in earshot that he cannot understand how anybody selects MJ in the first round.  I've got it down to only Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Seattle.  That's all.  Does Kiper even know this?

[Broken Trigger]

How does Kiper so easily forget his late conversion to the Matt Jones bandwagon? You guys remember it, don't you? Now he's telling everyone in earshot that he cannot understand how anybody selects MJ in the first round. I've got it down to only Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Seattle. That's all. Does Kiper even know this?

Mel cannot understand.  Alas, that is the problem,  Kiper is just a little slow getting on the train.  I can't wait to hear how he explains the good things Matt is gonna do when they happen.   

[SiriusHog™]

I think Kiper met McShay when Kiper was judging a contest that McShay won.  It was the "Sucking a golf ball through a water hose/Sucking the chrome off a trailer hitch Invitational"  Kiper is a judge due to being a previous recipient of that award. 

[Kevin]

i hope  matt does well.  but why are these gurus different from the guru's that ranked our basketball recruiting class in the top ten the last two years. we all believed them.  they apparently don't know anything either.

[OklaU]

It doesn't matter what they said.  Matt got drafter in the first round.  So quit worrying about it people.

[BushHawg]

Did anybody hear that fool Kiper trying to explain himself about Jones last night?  It was some draft recap show and a guy from Ark. sent in an email asking Mel how he can call Jones a "reach" when he had him going around 22 in his mock draft.

He said some shiite about how a mock draft is a guess but he looks at value per pick.  Well if Matt wasn't valuable then why did he have him so high in his draft?  The dude needs to open his squinty eyes and shed some of that enormous hair and maybe he could see and think straight.

Bottom line is he held off admitting Matt was going to go high until the very end, tried to jump on the bandwagon, missed and fell on his butt and is now trying to cover up for it by criticizing the pick.

If ESPN is smart they'll make Mort "the guy" next year during the draft since he obviously has a clue and Kiper doesn't.

[Geohul]

Mort and Kiper have both been doing the draft for some years now.  Mort is definateley the more knowing as far as NFL everyday Ops.  But Kiper is supposed to be The draft Guru.  I personally think he is overated. Anybody with enough time and a good Pay-Per-View college football package can do what Kiper does. But ESPN touts him as the worlds foremost NFL talent expert.   It takes a really good investigative reporter to do what Mort does.  I think he and John Clayton are the 2 best reporters ESPN has.  And of those 2 Mort is still a lot better.  The guy has a lot of connections to all of the NFL teams.  Kiper goes purely on heresay and conjeture.

[msudawgs64]

well you know what they say, those who can't or never have played, analyze.  :-)