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Started by Monk-N-Dunk, February 20, 2017, 12:12:30 pm

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Monk-N-Dunk

Any of you in Rental homes; specially with a partner? I have a tax question that I couldn't find an answer to.

widespreadsooie

What's your question?

You will need to allocate your income and expenses appropriately if your invested with a one or more partners.

 

hog.goblin

Quote from: Monk-N-Dunk on February 20, 2017, 12:12:30 pm
Any of you in Rental homes; specially with a partner? I have a tax question that I couldn't find an answer to.

What's the question?

Monk-N-Dunk

To get standard 30 year financing, my partner and I had to stay away from a llc. Instead, we signed a joint partnership. We will put the first house in my name, the second on his, third in my name, etc. We will do this until we reach the max in a personal name which is 5. After that, we would have to create a llc. How do we approach taxes if the first home is in my name and not his? It sounds like I'd benefit from depreciation or losses but he wouldn't. Thoughts?

widespreadsooie

I would wait for hog.goblin's response on this one but I believe you can share the income and deductions however you would like regardless of who's personal name assumes the financing on each home. 

RivercrestHog

Quote from: Monk-N-Dunk on February 21, 2017, 08:22:58 am
To get standard 30 year financing, my partner and I had to stay away from a llc. Instead, we signed a joint partnership. We will put the first house in my name, the second on his, third in my name, etc. We will do this until we reach the max in a personal name which is 5. After that, we would have to create a llc. How do we approach taxes if the first home is in my name and not his? It sounds like I'd benefit from depreciation or losses but he wouldn't. Thoughts?

I don't know the answer to your question, but if you're gonna get into the rental game, then I would recommend finding a good CPA with real estate experience. He'll pay for himself.

I'd also recommend checking out biggerpockets.com. It's a large real estate community that has lots of good info.

hog.goblin

Quote from: Monk-N-Dunk on February 21, 2017, 08:22:58 am
To get standard 30 year financing, my partner and I had to stay away from a llc. Instead, we signed a joint partnership. We will put the first house in my name, the second on his, third in my name, etc. We will do this until we reach the max in a personal name which is 5. After that, we would have to create a llc. How do we approach taxes if the first home is in my name and not his? It sounds like I'd benefit from depreciation or losses but he wouldn't. Thoughts?

Treat as a joint venture and each of you report 1/2 the results equally.  On most of these we'll report 100% of the activity to match any 1099s and then our software will take a 50% allocation at the bottom of schedule E.  In my case I like to be one preparing the schedule E and related depreciation (so I know it's right) and then provide a copy of it to the other partner.

je100

Quote from: hog.goblin on February 22, 2017, 02:51:37 am
Treat as a joint venture and each of you report 1/2 the results equally.  On most of these we'll report 100% of the activity to match any 1099s and then our software will take a 50% allocation at the bottom of schedule E.  In my case I like to be one preparing the schedule E and related depreciation (so I know it's right) and then provide a copy of it to the other partner.

Why wouldn't a 1065 work?  Would the tax filing method (whether divided individually without a pass-thru as you suggested, or by 1065) affect the legality of the ownership of assets, and visa versa?

Or maybe I misunderstood......

hog.goblin

Quote from: je100 on February 22, 2017, 07:59:40 am
Why wouldn't a 1065 work?  Would the tax filing method (whether divided individually without a pass-thru as you suggested, or by 1065) affect the legality of the ownership of assets, and visa versa?

Or maybe I misunderstood......

Practically speaking I wouldn't have a problem with that.  But if they are buying more homes the lender may get confused by assets titled in their individual names being listed in a partnership name and EIN for tax purposes.

je100

Quote from: hog.goblin on February 22, 2017, 08:24:43 am
Practically speaking I wouldn't have a problem with that.  But if they are buying more homes the lender may get confused by assets titled in their individual names being listed in a partnership name and EIN for tax purposes.

True.