Diesch Decommits (official)

[Russ22]

Hey, you and I agree on something, must be time to log off and watch Fallon.

+1. However, I think we probably agree more than you would like to admit. Enjoy your show.

[redeye]

if it got pulled, then it is/was not known/discussed.  When we talked with his parents they were in shock with his decision.

Might be that we just didn't try to stop him.  I don't know if Porked Tongue knows anything, but at face value, what he said isn't wrong.

Regardless, I appreciate you sharing what you know.  I hate that Diesch decommitted, but losing an OL recruit isn't that worrisome for me.  I know we need them this year, but I also know that we'll be fine.

[Oklahawg]

If the coaches got their feelings hurt by a coach talking his football philosophy, I think we found the reason why the University of Texas' football team is so soft.....

Damn straight.

[Oklahawg]

OGR69, always nice to have someone come to HV with a connection to our stories of interest. Thanks for sharing what you can. Good luck to your son the rest of the season.

[Dropkick]

If the coaches got their feelings hurt by a coach talking his football philosophy, I think we found the reason why the University of Texas' football team is so soft.....

I think Kliffy is the one with hurt feelings. Has he won a game since mouthing off?

[Hawgfan5]

When you recruit against high level programs this happens. Every year and every team. It sucks that its a player we all liked so much but it happens. I have faith in coach Pittman. Granted... we ideally want to be a little more deep on The O Line than we are currently but our quality is unquestionable. We are in good hands in the OL department. We will get recruits.

[redeye]

I think Kliffy is the one with hurt feelings. Has he won a game since mouthing off?

You think?  We dominated everywhere but the scoreboard and he thinks he kicked our [insert expletive for butt].  Just as we had no business losing that game, he had no business winning it, but mouths off like a common thug.  He should be thankful we didn't hang several dozen on him and he still has a job.

[Hawgfan5]

You think?  We dominated everywhere but the scoreboard and he thinks he kicked our [insert expletive for butt].  Just as we had no business losing that game, he had no business winning it, but mouths off like a common thug.  He should be thankful we didn't hang several dozen on him and he still has a job.

Uhhh... He won. Stop acting like he didn't. Stop with the "he should be thankful. .." bull****. We lost so he gets to talk crap and our coach doesn't.

[870hogfan]

Uhhh... He won. Stop acting like he didn't. Stop with the "he should be thankful. .." bull****. We lost so he gets to talk crap and our coach doesn't.

He sounded like an butt hurt idiot. Kliff is very lucky we don't have them on our schedule anymore.

[Wildhog]

Zero percent chance that his offer got pulled.  Zero.

[lefty08]

Zero percent chance that his offer got pulled.  Zero.

That's unfounded

[Wildhog]

That's unfounded

Yes.  And true.

[havok]

Oh well.  He will only have to worry himself sick about defending/blocking against McTelvin Agim one game a year if he goes to another SEC school....as opposed to trying to do it every day in practice.

[The real Hogules]

Zero percent chance that his offer got pulled.  Zero.

I totally agree with this!
There was no rush to extend an offer to Diesch, so our coaches surely had done their homework and was sold on Diesch on and off the field.
The kids gotten a case of cold feet.
I believe that by the seasons end we'll have improved and will be an appealing choice to some serious OL types, looking for coaching that can help get them to the next level.

[DeltaBoy]

 

[ricepig]

Zero percent chance that his offer got pulled.  Zero.

I agree, I was concerned, like RD when he was at aTm in August, and obviously going to other games. I know Bielema doesn't want them to commit until they are 100% sure, my guess, he never was. That said, we need 2 OT's in a worse way in this class.

[Hogman2]

https://twitter.com/DannyWest1/status/651101975677763584

A&M pays better?

[Russ22]

A&M pays better?

So, Arkansas pays?

[ricepig]

So, Arkansas pays?

Everybody pays, some just pay a lot better.

[Grizzlyfan]

Have fun at Baylor, kid.

Yeah competing for conference championships and being in the NC playoff discussion is such a drag.

[RME]

Yeah competing for conference championships and being in the NC playoff discussion is such a drag.

How dare you bring reality into a Hogville discussion!

[jackflash]

I hope to still see him as a hog. If not wish him well

[Jim Harris]

Maybe it wasn't about his talent.

Maybe he doesn't want to be a Razorback now or travel 5-6 hours to college when he can travel 3 or less. Maybe he saw more hotties at the Baylor-Tech game that caught his eye, or he just likes hanging with friends at the Dixie Chicken in College Station. It's OK.

[Porked Tongue]

Maybe he doesn't want to be a Razorback now or travel 5-6 hours to college when he can travel 3 or less. Maybe he saw more hotties at the Baylor-Tech game that caught his eye, or he just likes hanging with friends at the Dixie Chicken in College Station. It's OK.

Exactly.

Maybe it's about something personal from either side.

[HogimusMaximus]

Didn't he say he wanted to compete for a Big  12 Championship...cant do that at Arkansas.

[Bowfishinghogfan]

Yeah let's fire up the flame thrower in the recruiting forum too. Seems like a great idea.

because the product on the field is such a great product. Kids only care about winning. They don't venture to message board.

[Oklahawg]

because the product on the field is such a great product. Kids only care about winning. They don't venture to message board.

More bull from the CEO of the HV BS Club.

[HognitiveDissonance]

More bull from the CEO of the HV BS Club.

If there's one thing I'm NOT worried about in a Bielema team, it's recruiting offensive linemen. We'll be fine there if anywhere.

[Hogdomer]

Maybe he doesn't want to be a Razorback now or travel 5-6 hours to college when he can travel 3 or less. Maybe he saw more hotties at the Baylor-Tech game that caught his eye, or he just likes hanging with friends at the Dixie Chicken in College Station. It's OK.

If it takes you six hours to get to Fayetteville from Trophy Club you don't know your way.  Three hours to Waco?  Maybe if you are lucky given the traffic on 35.  Driving to College Station and to Fayetteville is a wash.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Kids only care about winning. 

Not every recruit is as short-sighted and immature as you.  Some actually are capable of seeing a bigger picture.

[hawgwash]

If it takes you six hours to get to Fayetteville from Trophy Club you don't know your way.  Three hours to Waco?  Maybe if you are lucky given the traffic on 35.  Driving to College Station and to Fayetteville is a wash.

You need to inform Google their maps are all messed up.

[hogman78]

because the product on the field is such a great product. Kids only care about winning. They don't venture to message board.

Keep telling yourself that. I didn't say if you are right or wrong. This isn't the place for it smooth talker.

[Bowfishinghogfan]

More bull from the CEO of the HV BS Club.

He has won 3 conference games in 3 years. If that's winning to you, you don't set the bar very high. BB and BA have a worse record that jones for TN. Spin it how you will but those are the facts. The number one recruiting sell is a teams success. This was suppose to be the year. Next year will be a down year with all we replace plus breaking in a new QB. You don't get it if you don't think a teams record matters to kids. More everyone gets a trophy club members.
Ill wait for you to explain how you tell me I'm wrong and that both are winning.

[ricepig]

He has won 3 conference games in 3 years. If that's winning to you, you don't set the bar very high. BB and BA have a worse record that jones for TN. Spin it how you will but those are the facts. The number one recruiting sell is a teams success. This was suppose to be the year. Next year will be a down year with all we replace plus breaking in a new QB. You don't get it if you don't think a teams record matters to kids. More everyone gets a trophy club members.
Ill wait for you to explain how you tell me I'm wrong and that both are winning.

So, according to your line of thinking, no high rated athletes would go to a program that has a losing record? Are you sure you wish to stick with that?

[lefty08]

He has won 3 conference games in 3 years. If that's winning to you, you don't set the bar very high. BB and BA have a worse record that jones for TN. Spin it how you will but those are the facts. The number one recruiting sell is a teams success. This was suppose to be the year. Next year will be a down year with all we replace plus breaking in a new QB. You don't get it if you don't think a teams record matters to kids. More everyone gets a trophy club members.
Ill wait for you to explain how you tell me I'm wrong and that both are winning.

He has won 3 games in a little less than 2 1/2 years

Get it right, goofball

[hawgwash]

He has won 3 games in a little less than 2 1/2 years

Get it right, goofball

In fact, in terms of conference games it's exactly 2 1/4 years.  And he's won 3 of his last 4 conference games.

[ricepig]

In fact, in terms of conference games it's exactly 2 1/4 years.  And he's won 3 of his last 4 conference games.

3 of our last 5.

[pigture perfect]

More bull from the CEO of the HV BS Club.

shouldnt that be CEO of the HV BF (bull farting) Club. There is no substance coming out of his post except hot foul smelling air.

[The Recruiting Guy]

Kellen wanted to visit other schools and Arkansas said no. 

[ricepig]

Kellen wanted to visit other schools and Arkansas said no. 

Boom, there you go, thanks for the clarification RD. Bielema likes them to be 100% all in when they commit.

[Porked Tongue]

[ricepig]

Oh, so you knew that, but felt it was too "risky" to put it out there?

[Porked Tongue]

You still believing his parents were "surprised"?

[lefty08]

Kellen wanted to visit other schools and Arkansas said no.

hmmmmmmmmmm

Good for Coach B, Id have to think we are in good shape with others for them to stick to their guns like that


Thanks RD!!

[Porked Tongue]

I'm sure this makes a statement not just now but down the road.

[ricepig]

You still believing his parents were "surprised"?

Where did I ever say that I believed that? I only thanked the parent of one of his teammates for giving his first hand conversation with them. I have no idea what they thought, I'll leave the mind reading to you. Now, we're they surprised we'd no longer consider him a "commit" if he took other visits, probably.

[Porked Tongue]

That first hand conversation was bunk.

Not that the poster lied, but that he was lied to by the parents.

CBB is very clear and there is no doubt the player and his parents were aware of CBB's habit of demanding full commitment.  You were aware of it.

I think it's obvious how this went down.  He choose to look more and was told "no".  If he was surprised like his parents, then he was naive and the UA did in fact boot him when they followed through on their stance.

If you believe he knew the UA would pull it, then you can go technical with a claim he did do it himself.  Even then, it was not his desire to have to decommitt so he could look around.

[lefty08]

Where did I ever say that I believed that? I only thanked the parent of one of his teammates for giving his first hand conversation with them. I have no idea what they thought, I'll leave the mind reading to you. Now, we're they surprised we'd no longer consider him a "commit" if he took other visits, probably.

You didnt say it, but someone else did i believe. The guy who knows him personally

[jgphillips3]

How do we ask kids not to visit other schools if they commit to us with a straight face and yet keep recruiting kids committed to other schools?

[lefty08]

How do we ask kids not to visit other schools if they commit to us with a straight face and yet keep recruiting kids committed to other schools?

Its official visits, pretty common thing from what I can gather. He is free to visit whoever, officially or unofficially, but with limited spots this year its his risk