Muschamp to Auburn

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Most folks would chop their own arm off for $1.6 million, which is what they're paying him.

And not a surprising salary.  The post was right on.  We were told that no DC worth anything would kill his career under that type of offense.

[MiHogsMi]

What's coach Robb Smith making?

It ain't $1.6 mill; nor should it be even close.  Muschamp brings a lot to the table besides just being a DC.  I suspect he will bring in big time defensive recruits.  I also figure he is Auburn's head coach in waiting when Gus gets offered an NFL head coaching job; which will happen sooner or later.  One of my hometown (Fort Smith) boys done good!!  Too bad we missed out.

[MiHogsMi]

Good defenses on HUNH teams are hard to find. Even good defensive coordinators fail. We'll see if Muschamp can break the trend.

Gee, I wonder if you can pass this on to Muschamp.  I'll bet he doesn't have any idea he just set himself up to fail working on a HUNH team.  If only he had a chance to consult with you before he accepted the job, he might have saved himself from a horrible career move. 

[hogwild210]

Gee, I wonder if you can pass this on to Muschamp.  I'll bet he doesn't have any idea he just set himself up to fail working on a HUNH team.  If only he had a chance to consult with you before he accepted the job, he might have saved himself from a horrible career move.

I won't speak for Chill, but he'd probably prefer to leave speculation on a message board. You know, the purpose of these things?

[870hogfan]

It ain't $1.6 mill; nor should it be even close.  Muschamp brings a lot to the table besides just being a DC.  I suspect he will bring in big time defensive recruits.  I also figure he is Auburn's head coach in waiting when Gus gets offered an NFL head coaching job; which will happen sooner or later.  One of my hometown (Fort Smith) boys done good!!  Too bad we missed out.

Rather have Bielema...

[rusvegashog]

It ain't $1.6 mill; nor should it be even close.  Muschamp brings a lot to the table besides just being a DC.  I suspect he will bring in big time defensive recruits.  I also figure he is Auburn's head coach in waiting when Gus gets offered an NFL head coaching job; which will happen sooner or later.  One of my hometown (Fort Smith) boys done good!!  Too bad we missed out.

Yeah but it appears that we've won the lottery w coach Smith. I'm a fan for sure. I wanted Malzahn as well, but I'm happy w coach B and the direction of this program. I thought the whole uncommon man was nothing more than a PR type of deal, but I really think coach has changed and created the RIGHT culture on the hill. The Razorbacks future is bright and we should be amped about our coach and the state of our program. WPS!

[Fayettechill14]

And not a surprising salary.  The post was right on.  We were told that no DC worth anything would kill his career under that type of offense.

By who? All I've said is that I'm skeptical it will actually work.

[redeye]

It ain't $1.6 mill; nor should it be even close.  Muschamp brings a lot to the table besides just being a DC.  I suspect he will bring in big time defensive recruits.  I also figure he is Auburn's head coach in waiting when Gus gets offered an NFL head coaching job; which will happen sooner or later.  One of my hometown (Fort Smith) boys done good!!  Too bad we missed out.

Muschamp recruited well when he first arrived to Florida, because it was Florida.  But Florida only finished 9th last year, which is bad for them, and then this year has been a total disaster from the get-go.  Since he struggled to recruit at Florida, I'm gonna hold off before I name him a recruiting genius at Auburn.

And I hope you're right about him being next in line at Auburn, but I doubt you are.

[Jamie Jones]

At 1.7M a season, what happens if they don't make the playoff? Who is to blame and how can Auburn continue to pay buyouts? Muschamp is a good DC, but is he 1.7M a year good? Is anyone? I love playing the best and winning. Nothing to brag about by beating up on alsorans. This is going to be interesting to watch. Gus has NO excuse for failing now. Let the games begin.

[hoglady]

The SEC West just keeps getting tougher and tougher.
Muschamp is a much more formidable coach as the DC at Auburn than he ever was the head coach at Florida. He has landed back in his wheelhouse.

[Wildhog]

Good.

[Calling All Hogs]

Good hire for Auburn but so was Ellis Johnson and that didn't work out too well. I doubt very many Arkansas fans would be jumping for joy if we hired Muschamp and let Robb Smith go.  Arkansas may have 99 problems but our DC ain't one of them.

[Choctaw Hog]

Auburn's fixin' to be very dangerous. I was really hoping he'd go to USCe.

Heard the same crap about Ellis Johnson. 

[Jamie Jones]

I can see a Buddy Ryan vs Kevin Childress type of relationship developing in Auburn. It would be epic.

[scruf]

Absolutely not possible.  The Hogville experts assure me no quality defensive coordinator would ever work for Gus.  Gus is just a "high school" coach; right?  You know...gimmicky, lucky, cheater.  Right?

But we were told that Gus wouldn't hire a guy like Muschamp.

Strawman arguments out in full effect. No one on here ever said this. Also, this thread belongs squarely in the SEC Sports forum.

[Pig Worshipper]

I think he's a good coach. The situation down at Florida just didn't work out for him.

The operative word in your post is "good". He's not a great coach and he's a very mediocre head coach. He'll do just fine at Auburn.

[gawntrail]

Two thoughts....

Muschamp:  Why did he leave Texas?  Did he run out of patience or did Texas?

Gus: With the athleticism at QB in college, Gus is a good prospect for an NFL job.  Too many bust QBs in the league and not enough prototypical pocket passer types in the pipeline.  Gus could go to a team looking to remake itself and have quite a bit of success. 

[CFB_Fanatic]

Two thoughts....

Muschamp:  Why did he leave Texas?  Did he run out of patience or did Texas?

Gus: With the athleticism at QB in college, Gus is a good prospect for an NFL job.  Too many bust QBs in the league and not enough prototypical pocket passer types in the pipeline.  Gus could go to a team looking to remake itself and have quite a bit of success.

Ill never say never, but it will be a LONG time before Gus goes pro. How many college coaches have went pro in recent years and failed versus those that have succeeded?

I can think of way more that went and failed and made their way back to college. He wont leave unless hes won AT LEAST 1 CFB playoff

[Pig In The City]

Good defenses on HUNH teams are hard to find. Even good defensive coordinators fail. We'll see if Muschamp can break the trend.

good point

[Inhogswetrust]

Secondary coach Tavarious Robinson coming with him from Florida.  Only one I've heard so far.  Rumors are Garner staying, all other defensive coaches are out.

Ironic in that when Gussy Poo was an assistant at Arkansas he was mad when his boss decided to bring in someone else and he could have stayed yet he skipped town for Tulsa instead of staying, although he told his former players to tough it out, yet now as the boss he don't mind canning assistants.................

[Inhogswetrust]

It ain't $1.6 mill; nor should it be even close.  Muschamp brings a lot to the table besides just being a DC.  I suspect he will bring in big time defensive recruits.  I also figure he is Auburn's head coach in waiting when Gus gets offered an NFL head coaching job; which will happen sooner or later.  One of my hometown (Fort Smith) boys done good!!  Too bad we missed out.

Is he really known as a good recruiter or is it because of where he's been? Head coaches do recruit and his record at Florida wasn't that great. He did have good D's at Auburn and Florida before but he brings nothing else to the table besides being a good DC.

[grayhawg]

I wonder does Muschamp think he is not Head Coach material or does he have a serious lack of ambition?

[AubFaninArk]

Listen guys.......I for one think it's pretty simple. If the staple of your team is a HUNH offense, you are not going to have a dominant defense. The dominant defenses you see in football are supported by an offense that can effectively operate while allowing the defense to rest.

If your offense is 90 to nothing (whether they are scoring or not) you will have a tired defense that is on the field a lot. The main reason the Razorbacks defense was great at times this year was the offense's ability to limit the number of plays the defense was on the field.

Not rocket science....

Auburn defense was on the field 30 more plays than the Arkansas defense for the year...or an average of about 2 per game.  Your analysis might work better with someone like Baylor...but not Auburn.

[Inhogswetrust]

It's always been funny to me that people talk about these great coordinators yet they couldn't name most of them and don't know what teams have the top D's.

Well here are the top 20 D's according to the NCAA: How many of these teams DC's can you name?

1   Clemson   
2   Penn St.   
3   UCF   
4   Wisconsin   
5   Stanford   
6   Louisville   
7   Michigan St.   
8   LSU      
9   Florida   
10   Michigan   
11   Alabama   
12   Boston College   
13   Ole Miss   
14   Miami (FL)   
15   Ohio St.   
16   Central Mich.   
17   Virginia Tech   
18   Iowa      
19   Houston   
20   Georgia

P.S. Arkansas is #24.   

[grayhawg]

Auburn defense was on the field 30 more plays than the Arkansas defense for the year...or an average of about 2 per game.  Your analysis might work better with someone like Baylor...but not Auburn.

That was not by design, Malzahn wants to be the fastest offence in football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/gus_malzahns_goal_make_auburns.html


Opposing defences were the reason for being slower than Gus wanted.

[texas tush hog]

Gonna make somewhere around $1.7 million per year.

Price of poker (Robb Smith) just went off the charts.

[AubFaninArk]

It's always been funny to me that people talk about these great coordinators yet they couldn't name most of them and don't know what teams have the top D's.

Well here are the top 20 D's according to the NCAA: How many of these teams DC's can you name?

Fun exercise...I may know more than I might normally because of our recent search at Coordinator.

1   Clemson-Venables
2   Penn St.- Shoop
3   UCF   
4   Wisconsin   
5   Stanford   
6   Louisville-Grantham
7   Michigan St.   
8   LSU-Big Chief   
9   Florida-Durkin   
10   Michigan   
11   Alabama-Smart
12   Boston College   
13   Ole Miss-Wommack
14   Miami (FL)   
15   Ohio St.-Ash   
16   Central Mich.   
17   Virginia Tech-Foster   
18   Iowa      
19   Houston   
20   Georgia-Pruiett

P.S. Arkansas is #24.   

[opineonswine]

I'm VERY surprised.  A potty mouthed yeller and screamer that likes to say Boom MF on Gus' staff??  VERY surprised.

[ricepig]

Price of poker (Robb Smith) just went off the charts.

Nope, we won't pay much more than half of that.

[AubFaninArk]

That was not by design, Malzahn wants to be the fastest offence in football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/gus_malzahns_goal_make_auburns.html


Opposing defences were the reason for being slower than Gus wanted.

You've said that twice and it doesn't add up either time...of course opposing defenses were responsible for slowing it down....that is their job.  You set goals but reality takes over...the reality is that everyone thinks Auburn runs fast the whole game...they don't.  The complete game stats show that but you don't want to believe that.

[ricepig]

I'm VERY surprised.  A potty mouthed yeller and screamer that likes to say Boom MF on Gus' staff??  VERY surprised.

Gus may choke on his gum, hearing such filthy talk.

[kaki]

Funny how legends are made, some with more hype than substance.  Not saying that Muschamp is not a good coordinator, but he has always been around programs with tremendous talent.  As previously mentioned, Ellis Johnson was a very accomplished coordinator, demonstrating that with results at programs who built strong defenses with less highly ranked athletes.  All this said, I don't fear Auburn any more than normal and really wonder how this staff will mesh, especially ego wise. 

[AubFaninArk]

Nope, we won't pay much more than half of that.

I would pay whatever it takes to keep him...he is a good one.

[Peter Porker]

It ain't $1.6 mill; nor should it be even close.  Muschamp brings a lot to the table besides just being a DC.  I suspect he will bring in big time defensive recruits.  I also figure he is Auburn's head coach in waiting when Gus gets offered an NFL head coaching job; which will happen sooner or later.  One of my hometown (Fort Smith) boys done good!!  Too bad we missed out.

He was born in Irving, Texas.

You didn't miss out. You can go root for Auburn. You wouldn't be missed.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Absolutely not possible.  The Hogville experts assure me no quality defensive coordinator would ever work for Gus.  Gus is just a "high school" coach; right?  You know...gimmicky, lucky, cheater.  Right?

This is far from over, it hasn't even started yet. We will see how the tug of war between offense and defense works out at Auburn. I think Muschamp is a really good DC. If Gus continues his trend to run more than throw, it may be a perfect match. But if he goes back to throwing more than running and has fewer sustained drives, maybe not so much. Only time will tell. Still, good hire by Gus.

[AubFaninArk]

Funny how legends are made, some with more hype than substance.  Not saying that Muschamp is not a good cooridnator, but he has always been around programs with tremendous talent.  As previously mentioned, Ellis Johnson was a very accomplished coordinator, demonstrating that with results at programs who built strong defenses with less highly ranked athletes.  All this said, I don't fear Auburn any more than normal and really wonder how this staff will mesh, especially ego wise. 

I didn't really like the Johnson hire...he was accomplished several years ago, but as the game changed, he didn't.  His last few years with South Carolina were not great and then his failure was completed at USM.

[TrueBlue]

I hope an ESPN camera is on Gus the first time Muschamp screams "BOOM! Mother F*****!" on a great tackle. It will be classic to see Gus cringe!

[AubFaninArk]

This is far from over, it hasn't even started yet. We will see how the tug of war between offense and defense works out at Auburn. I think Muschamp is a really good DC. If Gus continues his trend to run more than throw, it may be a perfect match. But if he goes back to throwing more than running and has fewer sustained drives, maybe not so much. Only time will tell. Still, good hire by Gus.

When has Gus passed more than run???  Ever???

[ricepig]

I would pay whatever it takes to keep him...he is a good one.

Yes, he is, but he won't be getting paid triple his salary, anywhere, next year.

[AubFaninArk]

I hope an ESPN camera is on Gus the first time Muschamp screams "BOOM! Mother F*****!" on a great tackle. It will be classic to see Gus cringe!

You don't think Dameyune Craig, Rodney Garner, and Melvin Smith don't cuss?  You don't know them very well.

[AubFaninArk]

Yes, he is, but he won't be getting paid triple his salary, anywhere, next year.

It may not take triple to keep him...but I would pay him.

[Lake City Hog]

Threads like these are VERY entertaining! The hatred/jealousy that some of you conceal with stupidity is simply amazing.

Head coaches are hired to do 1 thing, WIN! HC's hire assistant coaches that they feel like will help them achieve the #1 objective. Smart HC's make the changes necessary to achieve the #1 objective as quickly as possible.

After his 1st year here BB figured out very quickly that he had a staff problem on defense and he did the VERY smart thing and he went out and fixed it. Gus is trying to do the very same thing. Sumlin tried to get his horse in that same race, but he couldn't pull it off. Muschamp at ATM could have been a VERY bad thing.

[ricepig]

It may not take triple to keep him...but I would pay him.

Ok, you've established that.

[Pig Worshipper]

I hope an ESPN camera is on Gus the first time Muschamp screams "BOOM! Mother F*****!" on a great tackle. It will be classic to see Gus cringe!

Gus hasn't cringed at anything else that's gone down at Auburn from Cam Newton on down. Why should he even flinch now?

[texas tush hog]

I hope an ESPN camera is on Gus the first time Muschamp screams "BOOM! Mother F*****!" on a great tackle. It will be classic to see Gus cringe!

Reggie Herring made Muschamp sound like a choir boy. Nutt to his credit (yuk, ugh, spit) called him down and Reggie got some better after that first spring.

[go hogues]

Lot of jealousy in this thread.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

It's always been funny to me that people talk about these great coordinators yet they couldn't name most of them and don't know what teams have the top D's.

Well here are the top 20 D's according to the NCAA: How many of these teams DC's can you name?

1   Clemson   venables
2   Penn St.   
3   UCF   
4   Wisconsin   aranada
5   Stanford   
6   Louisville   grantham
7   Michigan St.   Narduzzi
8   LSU        chavis
9   Florida   durkin
10   Michigan   
11   Alabama    smart
12   Boston College   
13   Ole Miss   
14   Miami (FL)   
15   Ohio St.   ash/fickell
16   Central Mich.   
17   Virginia Tech   foster
18   Iowa      
19   Houston     gibbs
20   Georgia.    Pruitt

P.S. Arkansas is #24.

I'm actually surprised I knew that many

[ricepig]

Lot of jealousy in this thread.

Jealousy? Nah, I didn't want Muschamp as our DC, what else would we be jealous of, his salary? Florida is already paying him $3.7mil/yr for the next 3 years, so that probably put him over 50% of HV posters.......

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

Gus will either slow it down to get a more balanced team or this experiment will cost auburn a chunk of change

[kaki]

Lot of jealousy in this thread.

May be some of that, but also some perspective too.  Not everybody believes that Muschamp changes the landscape as dramatically as others do.