cbb to get year 6

[Kevin]

they will use the injuries excuse to get him another year imo

[hoglady]

All teams have injuries.
We sucked just as bad with AA and Ragnow playing as we are going to suck without them.
The running back excuse doesn't fly either / we aren't losing games because of the RB position.

[jst01]

Ha! No way, but you're entitled to it

[Kevin]

All teams have injuries.
We sucked just as bad with AA and Ragnow playing as we are going to suck without them.
The running back excuse doesn't fly either / we aren't losing games because of the RB position.

I agree. I think this is what happens

[ipigsooie]

I would have agreed earlier in the season when it was just a bunch of folks on hv asking for his head. Now the monster has grown into a problem with national awareness. JL doesnt want all of the negative attention on our program anymore than we do. I think his hand is going to be forced.

In my honest opinion i think they work a deal out that is mutual. CBB gets a gig like kstate, we get a little less on the buyout, and everyone walks away happy.  Just my opinion.

[Sundog]

they will use the injuries excuse to get him another year imo

Year 6 was always going to happen. This is just an added twist to justify what was always the case. 

[cj_sez]

The lack of preparation for the season, the lack of in-game adjustments, the lack of coaching all precede the injuries. No excuses!!! Fire Bielema.

[hogcard1964]

they will use the injuries excuse to get him another year imo

No, the wheels were in the ditch prior to the injuries.

[Wildhog]

I just don't see any way he returns. 

[hogcard1964]

I just don't see any way he returns.

+1000

I'm sure he also wants out.

[go hogues]

We're just past the point of no return, imo. He's lost the fans at this point and he'll get two or three more beatdowns this season alone.

I think it will be impossible to salvage any kind of offseason momentum for next season at this point and recruits won't want to come play for a lame duck coach.

The real concern is what spot does Arkansas fall in the pecking order of major programs looking to hire head coaches next month?

[AirWarren]

+1000

I'm sure he also wants out.

I agree. I imagine it's tough hearing the crowd boo you. As you wait to come out. I'm sure it is horrible to feel all of your squad looking at you as the crowd boos you.

I'm sure his wife is sick of all the attacks her husband is subject to. And I'm sure it pisses her off to hear the boos as she sits In the box.

Fans are sick of it. Rightfully so.

It appears the team is sick of it too.

I think it's time to divorce and move on.

[Pigsknuckles]

they will use the injuries excuse to get him another year imo

Sounds almost like giving him a medical redshirt.

[hogcard1964]

We're just past the point of no return, imo. He's lost the fans at this point and he'll get two or three more beatdowns this season alone.

I think it will be impossible to salvage any kind of offseason momentum for next season at this point and recruits won't want to come play for a lame duck coach.

The real concern is what spot does Arkansas fall in the pecking order of major programs dumping their head coaches next month?

He's definitely killing what little recruiting we had going.  I think Scout just had us listed as 11 overall in the SEC last week.  I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up near Ole Miss in recruiting rankings now.  They were dead last in the SEC.

What would be best for the program is if he would leave now and give the next intern a chance to recruit a bit.

[Athog]

I would have agreed earlier in the season when it was just a bunch of folks on hv asking for his head. Now the monster has grown into a problem with national awareness. JL doesnt want all of the negative attention on our program anymore than we do. I think his hand is going to be forced.

In my honest opinion i think they work a deal out that is mutual. CBB gets a gig like kstate, we get a little less on the buyout, and everyone walks away happy.  Just my opinion.

Yeah Hogville has no impact because of no credibility but nationally gaining some steam with every loss!

[sickboy]

Grasping at straws here.

[SDZ_Hog]

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[The Boar War]

What would be best for the program is if he would leave now and give the next intern a chance to recruit a bit.

No coach on this staff needs to be given a chance to win the job.

[SemperHawg]

I'm not saying this happens, but I guarantee you that is the narrative that will be pushed to try and get him that 6 year... You are already starting to hear/see it from different places now.

[Darren DeLoach]

There is simply no way at this point. Publicly, Long may give kudos to coach's clean operation and graduation rates. And if he gave him a 6th year, they would revisit those points and the unfortunate injury bug. But even IF they gave BB the 6th year, it is without a doubt massive assistant coaching changes would be enforced from above. Which creates the rub, what decent coach would ever step in under a probable lame duck coach. The recruiting losses over that time span would be astronomical. EVEN IF B.B. stays AND manages to win 9 games, the programs already fragile talent base would be even worse. Keeping him is program suicide.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for BB or Long to use injuries as a reason to get a 6th year, but....

I think a more likely scenario is when BB is sh** canned he uses it as a reason why he just couldn't get over the hump here so that he can sell himself to another program.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Quit your Lying. Lol.



Have you ever been somewhere you werent wanted? How uncomfortable it feels ; who STAYS there? He gone, even if he wasnt shoved out, he gone.

[hogman64]

to late for injuries to help  he will be fired.  to many people that matter clearly against keeping him.

[ipigsooie]

Quit your Lying. Lol.



Have you ever been somewhere you werent wanted? How uncomfortable it feels ; who STAYS there? He gone, even if he wasnt shoved out, he gone.
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Jenn, is that you?

[DeltaBoy]

I want the BOT to Fire Long and Coach.

[hogcard1964]

No coach on this staff needs to be given a chance to win the job.

I wouldn't have a problem with Enos taking over for the last 5 games. If it works out positively, I'd be all up for giving Enos a two year deal as HC.

[Pig in the Pokey]

I want the BOT to Fire Long and Coach.

Too late. Long acquiesced when given the ultimatum.

[The Boar War]

I wouldn't have a problem with Enos taking over for the last 5 games. If it works out positively, I'd be all up for giving Enos a two year deal as HC.

That's what I'm afraid of.  Not the winning of course.  I would hate to see a spark that catches fire against the weak part of our schedule used as a reason to give someone a job they are completely unqualified for.

[PygmalionEffect2]

they will use the injuries excuse to get him another year imo

haha

no

He might get another year (doubtful) but that won't be mentioned as the excuse.  The team that will beat us this week just lost their 5 star QB.  All teams lose players.  Bama lost 2 starting LBers if I remember correctly before they played us.


If we keep him with the 2018 schedule being the easiest it could possibly be in our league, I would actually dread the possibility of an 8-4 type regular season, just enough to save his job for a seventh year.  About to vomit in my mouth thinking about it.

Did we ever decide what his actual buyout is?  $15M or $5M, he needs to be gone.

[PygmalionEffect2]

No coach on this staff needs to be given a chance to win the job.

[hogcard1964]

That's what I'm afraid of.  Not the winning of course.  I would hate to see a spark that catches fire against the weak part of our schedule used as a reason to give someone a job they are completely unqualified for.

Why isn't Enos qualified?

[HoggyCat]

The said this sarcastically in the Ragnow thread.


But think logically if you can. The only injury when this season fell apart (TCU, yes, that early) was RW3.  The rest are fairly recent for games we weren't going to win anydamnway.

[The Boar War]

Why isn't Enos qualified?

He was a 26-36 head coach at CMU.  Our offense is ranked somewhere in the 90's.  He can't help figure out the o line problems.  There are others but I honestly want to know:  How is Enos qualified?

[HawgTide]

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for BB or Long to use injuries as a reason to get a 6th year, but....

I think a more likely scenario is when BB is sh** canned he uses it as a reason why he just couldn't get over the hump here so that he can sell himself to another program.

I could see that happening. He leaves and has a built in excuse with all the injuries. Whether it's true or not, CBB can use it to save face on his way to a new gig.

[FATHAWG08]

I can't see him wanting to stay. He will be fired or he will resign. There is no way he can make it to next season. After the season if he stays it is fixing to get brutally ugly.

[JaketheSnake]

It won't be CBB using injuries... the PTB will make their own decision based on if they really think the injuries made much of a difference (or if they had already decided to give him another year regardless)

But losing these guys def makes a massive difference to our team:
RW3
Ragnow
Pulley
Cornelius
Bell
Hayden
Who am I missing?

[hogman64]

It won’t be CBB using injuries... the PTB will make their own decision based on if they really think the injuries made much of a difference (or if they had already decided to give him another year regardless)

But losing these guys def makes a massive difference to our team:
RW3
Ragnow
Pulley
Cornelius
Bell
Hayden
Who am I missing?

Didn't all those guys play against MO and V Tech., except  Hayden?  If Bell didn't, wasn't because he wasn't  available.  you  can throw in Allen too.

[JaketheSnake]

Didn't all those guys play against MO and V Tech., except  Hayden?  If Bell didn't, wasn't because he wasn't  available.  you  can throw in Allen too.

Not sure.  We are are discussing this season. 

[HiggiePiggy]

they will use the injuries excuse to get him another year imo

I don't see it happening unless he finds a way to get into a bowl game.

[hog of steele]

I don't see it happening unless he finds a way to get into a bowl game.

Agreed. Maybe even 5 wins. But if we get blown out again this weekend, I do t see what could save him.

[hog.goblin]

I just don't see any way he returns. 

I've been saying it takes 4 wins for Long to bring him back.  That might not longer hold true.  And I can't see him getting to 5.

[PorkSoda]

I just don't see any way he returns. 

I agree, its over.

I was holding out hope, he might get things turned around after we finish with murders row, but who am I fooling.

[hehawg]

fake news

[Rudy Baylor]

Bye Felicia

[swineology]

I want the BOT to Fire Long and Coach.

Breaking news from Deltaboy

[Jimbob111]

Year 6 was always going to happen. This is just an added twist to justify what was always the case.

No, year 6 was NOT always going to happen. Both statewide AND national news and talk sports outlets universally say BB should not return, both talking heads and callers. The awareness of the suckage on this scale has taken the decision out of Long's hands. BB is done, all that's not known is when. JL's radio silence speaks volumes. One of the most visible ADs in recent years has become the invisible man.  Why do you think that is?

[texas tush hog]

I can't see him wanting to stay. He will be fired or he will resign. There is no way he can make it to next season. After the season if he stays it is fixing to get brutally ugly.

Resigning would be a $5.9 million dollar mistake.

[Danny J]

It was very telling to me during today's presser when CBB mentioned Ragnow "wants to help his team mates and help me also"...CBB and likely most of the players know he is on his last leg

[Sundog]

No, year 6 was NOT always going to happen. Both statewide AND national news and talk sports outlets universally say BB should not return, both talking heads and callers. The awareness of the suckage on this scale has taken the decision out of Long's hands. BB is done, all that's not known is when. JL's radio silence speaks volumes. One of the most visible ADs in recent years has become the invisible man.  Why do you think that is?

Listen, I hope you're right. I really do.  However, In Sept. Long publicly announced his 100% continued support for Bert.  Since you are speculating, allow me to speculate.  For all we know Long has given Bert his word that he has another year.  Maybe the BoT has as well.  What I know is that Long's reputation is of paramount importance to him.  Not what you, I or the average knuckle-dragging hogvillian wants; but his peers and constituents nationally think.  Long will do what makes HIM look best based on HIS world.  Granted, Bert has indeed so severely shyte the bed beyond even the depths of pitifullness a reasonable person looks at that PERHAPS, just PERHAPS the fire Bert card (at season's end) might be in LONG'S best interests.

[Boardon Hamsay]

I want the BOT to extend Long and Fire Coach.

Agreed. Good post.