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This is a BIG WIN congrats to coach Mike Anderson and the Hogs

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bigred223

Dayton did beat Texas A&M and BC on neutral floors this year. No, those teams aren't amazing, but they aren't terrible. A&M actually may end up having a decent year. 

Hogmeier

The Hogs did take care of business as expected.  However, the 2nd half was more of the same. Portis didn't post up near as much as he did in the 1st half. We need to continue to focus/work on that the next 3 weeks and be more consistent. I fear the next few games against lesser teams we may go back to our old bad habits. I hope not, but something to keep an eye on.

 

forrest city joe

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on December 13, 2014, 04:21:30 pm
SMU current national rankings per ESPN:

PPG   110th
Rebounds PG   115th
Assists PG   56th
FG%   37th
So. we went on the road in a game people thought we would lose. and we won it. and it was on the road. and it has you Anderson haters pissed.

Wild Bill Hog

Quote from: ErieHog on December 13, 2014, 04:27:04 pm
6-3.   That's an important one.   AAC favorite.   That's another.  Top 100 RPI road win-- potentially a Top 50 RPI road win.



Top 100 RPI is not anything to hang your hat on, Erie.  In the total scheme of things, I'm not sure it offsets the Clemson loss.  JMO.

forrest city joe

Quote from: bigred223 on December 13, 2014, 04:30:09 pm
Dayton did beat Texas A&M and BC on neutral floors this year. No, those teams aren't amazing, but they aren't terrible. A&M actually may end up having a decent year. 
Dayton is a very good team. the people who want to nitpick Mike are just looking for reasons to cry about his coaching. when he losses it's because he not a good coach. when he wins it's because the other team is not that good. im on to their game.

ErieHog

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on December 13, 2014, 04:38:47 pm
Top 100 RPI is not anything to hang your hat on, Erie.  In the total scheme of things, I'm not sure it offsets the Clemson loss.  JMO.

It absolutely is, for a road win when you are trying to get into the tournament.

Clemson will be kept from being a super damaging loss, by the overall strength of the ACC;  they don't have to win much of anything, to not be RPI150+
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

forrest city joe

Quote from: ErieHog on December 13, 2014, 04:40:15 pm
It absolutely is, for a road win when you are trying to get into the tournament.

Clemson will be kept from being a super damaging loss, by the overall strength of the ACC;  they don't have to win much of anything, to not be RPI150+

You are spot on. + 1000

Wild Bill Hog

Quote from: ErieHog on December 13, 2014, 04:40:15 pm
It absolutely is, for a road win when you are trying to get into the tournament.

Clemson will be kept from being a super damaging loss, by the overall strength of the ACC;  they don't have to win much of anything, to not be RPI150+


How much does beating an AAC team count though?  SMU had a good year but didn't get into the NCAAT last year I don't think.  Could be wrong.  It's not a real powerful or highly regarded conference anyway.

Guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out.  Lots of games left for everybody.

Pork Twain

Woo Hoo, we beat a team at home that we were supposed to.
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sweetmemes/

Pulled(PP)pork

Quote from: Pork Twain on December 13, 2014, 05:05:25 pm
Woo Hoo, we beat a team at home that we were supposed to.
you hush your mouf, you Mike Anderson hater!

-1000


PP

PonderinHog

Quote from: Pork Twain on December 13, 2014, 05:05:25 pm
Woo Hoo, we beat a team at home that we were supposed to.
Well, it certainly beats a sharp stick in the eye, don't it?

Pork Twain

I am just looking forward to a new post like this after every home win between now and our next road game.
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

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Karma

Quote from: forrest city joe on December 13, 2014, 03:36:34 pm
Stop your crying. we have already won a big road game at SMU. won a big game at KY last year. yet you people keep crying.how about just enjoy this big win today.
Joe, you poke people with a stick and then wonder why they say ouch.

I'll go kick rocks now.

 

Karma

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on December 13, 2014, 05:03:33 pm
How much does beating an AAC team count though?  SMU had a good year but didn't get into the NCAAT last year I don't think.  Could be wrong.  It's not a real powerful or highly regarded conference anyway.

Guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out.  Lots of games left for everybody.
You mean the conference the national champ played in last year?

ErieHog

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on December 13, 2014, 05:03:33 pm
How much does beating an AAC team count though?  SMU had a good year but didn't get into the NCAAT last year I don't think.  Could be wrong.  It's not a real powerful or highly regarded conference anyway.

Guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out.  Lots of games left for everybody.

Quite a lot.   And they were in the last few teams out last year, and those are the kind of road wins you need---  the AAC was, and is more highly regarded than a number of conferences.  Too often, people bring a football mindset to basketball;  more than 5 or 6 conferences matter.  It is a very well regarded league-  its expected to be a top 10 conference, and projects to have 4 NCAA tournament teams right now.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Wild Bill Hog

Quote from: Karma on December 13, 2014, 05:13:14 pm
You mean the conference the national champ played in last year?

Wasn't that more because of the team though?  UCONN is an established power, and has been for a lot of years.  Did UK playing in the championship game mean the SEC was a strong conference last year?

SWarkansasman

This team really shoots free throws better than any of Mikes teams thus far.  If they can remember to continue to play half court defense like they did today , they will be tough.

BigSexyHog

You can always count on FCJ to post nonsense.   I expect to win at home,  pretty good game over all.  No complaints but guess I better go kick rocks.
Lebron raised money for kids... Rotnei stole crap from the equipment room

Pork Twain

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on December 13, 2014, 05:24:41 pm
Wasn't that more because of the team though?  UCONN is an established power, and has been for a lot of years.  Did UK playing in the championship game mean the SEC was a strong conference last year?
They are smaller than the SEC but have better basketball teams right now
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sweetmemes/

thirtythree

Just R-E-L-A-X. We will be fine.

They played very well in the 1st half. Slowed down some in the 2nd, but held on when they needed to make a stop.

Pigsear

Quote from: thirtythree on December 13, 2014, 07:14:01 pm
Just R-E-L-A-X. We will be fine.

They played very well in the 1st half. Slowed down some in the 2nd, but held on when they needed to make a stop.

Till we go on the road again.

dhornjr1

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on December 13, 2014, 04:07:15 pm
49.4% would be just fine.  Do you not think so?

Elite level programs win at a 50% or better clip on the road. This program hasn't been at an elite level for a long time. Hell, even elite level programs don't always win at a 50% clip.

Kevin

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.<br />James 4:7
Reject Every Kind Of Evil 1 Thessalonians 5:22

PonderinHog

Quote from: Imminent Rueage on December 13, 2014, 07:20:09 pm
Elite level programs win at a 50% or better clip on the road. This program hasn't been at an elite level for a long time. Hell, even elite level programs don't always win at a 50% clip.
I hate powder blue elitists...  >:(

 

forrest city joe

Quote from: sevenof400 on December 13, 2014, 06:39:50 pm
One a larger note, take a look at Arkansas' schedule now - pay special attention to the fact that very few teams are now in the Top 25. 

That does not bode well if Arkansas ends up anywhere near the bubble but wew should always keep in mind the ratings are ever changing.
Pure none sense. we fish in the top 3 in the sec and we are going dancing. and we are going dancing. sorry to all the haters, but Mike and the players are going to the NCAA this year.

ErieHog

Quote from: Imminent Rueage on December 13, 2014, 07:20:09 pm
Elite level programs win at a 50% or better clip on the road. This program hasn't been at an elite level for a long time. Hell, even elite level programs don't always win at a 50% clip.

We've never had a coach who won 50% or more on the road;  we've never been elite, by your definition.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Kevin

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.<br />James 4:7
Reject Every Kind Of Evil 1 Thessalonians 5:22

forrest city joe

Quote from: Kevin on December 13, 2014, 07:30:12 pm
Going to need 12 wins in the league, I think
Nope. 10  sec wins will be enough.we are going to be in the Dance.

Kevin

Quote from: forrest city joe on December 13, 2014, 07:46:37 pm
Nope. 10  sec wins will be enough.we are going to be in the Dance.

No way. 10-8 in the league will not get it done.  Look at the scores today.

Right now, this is a 3 bid league Max.
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.<br />James 4:7
Reject Every Kind Of Evil 1 Thessalonians 5:22

Hollywood_HOGan45

I love arkansas basketball and love mike. Great win today but last Sunday is still sticking with me.

I just cannot get past losing a 6 pt lead with 49 seconds left.

Good step into the right direction though.

ErieHog

Quote from: Kevin on December 13, 2014, 07:58:45 pm
No way. 10-8 in the league will not get it done.  Look at the scores today.

Right now, this is a 3 bid league Max.

The SEC has picked it up decently in OOC play, which is helping the overall RPI prospects of the league a little bit.    Its still not gangbusters, but the league is doing better than it has in the recent past in non-con play.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Atlhogfan1

We were over .500 on the road when we were elite.  After 95 we struggled and it made Nolan's road record fall to what it is. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

FelixJonesorDMAC?

This team will make it to the tourney for sure.  We take care of business at home and we win more SEC games on the road this year.  Clemson loss stings, but I'm sure the players felt it more than the fans, or I hope at least.

forrest city joe

Quote from: Hollywood_HOGan45 on December 13, 2014, 07:59:38 pm
I love arkansas basketball and love mike. Great win today but last Sunday is still sticking with me.

I just cannot get past losing a 6 pt lead with 49 seconds left.

Good step into the right direction though.
It's a game we threw away Hollywood. but there is nothing we can do about that bad loss now. we have to get over it and move on.and that's what the team did today. i loved the way the team played against a good Dayton team. bad losses happen. just enjoy the wins, and being a good program again.

Karma

Quote from: forrest city joe on December 13, 2014, 07:24:58 pm
Pure none sense. we fish in the top 3 in the sec and we are going dancing. and we are going dancing. sorry to all the haters, but Mike and the players are going to the NCAA this year.
FCJ's priorities:
1. God
2. Country
3. Mike
4. Hogs

forrest city joe

Quote from: Karma on December 13, 2014, 08:40:19 pm
FCJ's priorities:
1. God
2. Country
3. Mike
4. Hogs
Wrong again.
1. God
2.Family
3.country
4.Razorback Athletics

Dr. Starcs


dhornjr1

Quote from: ErieHog on December 13, 2014, 07:28:54 pm
We've never had a coach who won 50% or more on the road;  we've never been elite, by your definition.

Did you miss the part where I said this?

Quote from: Imminent Rueage on December 13, 2014, 07:20:09 pm
Hell, even elite level programs don't always win at a 50% clip.

I'm not gonna bother to look it up, but I'd darned near guarantee that Arkansas won at a better than 50% rate on the road from 1988-89 through 1994-95.

Those were elite level years and those are the years that most of these mouth breathers expect Mike to recreate.

Hog1952


Hogfan1660

Settle down FCJ!!! We are world beaters at home but let's look back to the last 2 road losses. I'm going to say that we aren't as bad as we were on the road thus week but aren't as good as we are at home. Let's see how we play on the next road trip before we start saying that we are back. 

Hog1952


tophawg19

Quote from: ErieHog on December 13, 2014, 03:46:23 pm
I'm always curious to know if people know what Nolan's road record was at Arkansas.

85-87 in true road games-  a .494 clip

Weird that we expect Mike to win at a level that even the best coach in our history struggled to att
the conference is down from Nolan's years .
if you ain't a hawg you ain't chitlins

ErieHog

Quote from: tophawg19 on December 13, 2014, 10:06:32 pm
  the conference is down from Nolan's years .


He didn't fare much, if any better, in non-conference play.  Try again.

And three of those 'prime years' were at the end of an SWC that usually was a 2 bid league.  So, no, the conference differentials aren't nearly that great.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on December 13, 2014, 08:16:42 pm
We were over .500 on the road when we were elite.  After 95 we struggled and it made Nolan's road record fall to what it is. 

He didn't post a single winning road record in his first 5 years;  actually, he didn't get to .500 on the road, even temporarily, until February of 1991-- after he had taken a team to the Final Four, and in a two year stretch where we went 18-4 on the road to dig out of the enormous hole he was in, early in his career on the road.

Winning half your games on the road, consistently, is never a mark this program has achieved; very few programs, ever, have been able to do so over a multi-season arc.

And we're in Mike's 4th year.









No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

thirtythree


3of5-2

Good win, not a great win, but where this program is at, any win is a good win. Don't over estimate Dayton and SMU or even Clemson. They aren't very good. After 4 years we should have mopped the floor with those teams.

Otis

Quote from: forrest city joe on December 13, 2014, 07:24:58 pm
Pure none sense. we fish in the top 3 in the sec and we are going dancing. and we are going dancing. sorry to all the haters, but Mike and the players are going to the NCAA this year.


Hmmmm, where have I hears this before? Oh yeah, it's the same thing you said last year and the year before and the year before that. Forgive us if we'd like to wait and see instead of taking your word for it again.

jkstock04

Joe did you expect us to lose this game or something? We were 10 point favorites at home. A win is a win, but this was an expected win. Considering that and our overall record at home I don't see how this was a BIG WIN as you say.

I want to see us win more meaningful road games and make the NCAA's this year.
Thanks for the F Shack. 

Love,

Dirty Mike and the Boys

HognitiveDissonance

Quote from: ricepig on December 13, 2014, 03:55:04 pm
Ok, what do you think a fair winning % on the road should be? I think with our conference like it is we should expect above 18%, don't you?
Five of the nine SEC road games as wins would do the job just fine this year. We could very realistically go 8-1 or 9-0 in SEC home games this year.

HognitiveDissonance

Quote from: forrest city joe on December 13, 2014, 08:49:51 pm
Wrong again.
1. God
2.Family
3.country
4.Razorback Athletics

Actually, from reading JumpBall the last couple years it's

1)Mike Anderson
2)everything else