This is a BIG WIN congrats to coach Mike Anderson and the Hogs

[Atlhogfan1]

He didn't post a single winning road record in his first 5 years;  actually, he didn't get to .500 on the road, even temporarily, until February of 1991-- after he had taken a team to the Final Four, and in a two year stretch where we went 18-4 on the road to dig out of the enormous hole he was in, early in his career on the road.

Winning half your games on the road, consistently, is never a mark this program has achieved; very few programs, ever, have been able to do so over a multi-season arc.

And we're in Mike's 4th year.

8-3 89-90 season 5, F4 beginning of elite run

We were over .500 when elite.

[Danny J]

One a larger note, take a look at Arkansas' schedule now - pay special attention to the fact that very few teams are now in the Top 25. 

That does not bode well if Arkansas ends up anywhere near the bubble but wew should always keep in mind the ratings are ever changing.

You would think so but go back last year and look at the teams that just barely made the NCAAt and then listen to the head of the committee after the selections were announced. He must have said 10 times that teams like BYU made it in because their OOC SOS was pretty good. Even though they lost a couple of those games the scheduling was good. He was basically saying...."as long as you are in a conference thought to be in the top 7 or 8 and have a good OOC SOS and you don't mess up really bad in conference then you are in". Basically they are putting tons of weight on RPI and a vast majority of RPI is SOS. Then they factor in OOC SOS as an even bigger factor over conference SOS.

If we basically do what we did last year.......we will be a bubble team like BYU that not only makes it in we won't even be a play-in team simply because our OOC SOS is MUCH MUCH higher than last year. We were hammered last year because we not only played cupcakes but we played a bunch of RPI killing terribly bad cupcakes in our OOC SOS. The committee clearly stated that is something that they weigh heavily because we have 100% control over that part of our schedule. We have no control over our conference schedule.

We will make the NCAAt. Not a doubt in my mind. I just hope we are a high enough seed to get some favorable matchups.

[ErieHog]

8-3 89-90 season 5, F4 beginning of elite run

We were over .500 when elite.

Yes, typo on my part.  It was year 5 he had his first winning road record, not year 6.  He remained under .500 until year 7, with 3 road games left in the season.

[Wild Bill Hog]

He didn't post a single winning road record in his first 5 years;  actually, he didn't get to .500 on the road, even temporarily, until February of 1991-- after he had taken a team to the Final Four, and in a two year stretch where we went 18-4 on the road to dig out of the enormous hole he was in, early in his career on the road.

Winning half your games on the road, consistently, is never a mark this program has achieved; very few programs, ever, have been able to do so over a multi-season arc.

And we're in Mike's 4th year.

Do you see Mike going 18-4 on the road anytime soon?

[ErieHog]

Do you see Mike going 18-4 on the road anytime soon?

No.  Nor is there any reason to expect any coach will, ever again.

Nolan isn't the minimum bar.    'If it isn't the height of top Nolan, we don't want it',  is a fantastic way to never have a meaningful basketball program, ever again.

[-Blu]

Do you see Mike going 18-4 on the road anytime soon?

Improvement has been shown on the road since our break through in Vandy last year. We are currently 4-5 in our last 9 true road games.  So, if your aiming for that 50 percent we're close to that in our latest road games.  We win at Georgia and we'll be 50% for the year. 

[Paul]

Joe, you poke people with a stick and then wonder why they say ouch.

I'll go kick rocks now.

indeed

[JackJohnson]

Why is it so hard to get on and enjoy a win on jump ball anymore

[ricepig]

He didn't post a single winning road record in his first 5 years;  actually, he didn't get to .500 on the road, even temporarily, until February of 1991-- after he had taken a team to the Final Four, and in a two year stretch where we went 18-4 on the road to dig out of the enormous hole he was in, early in his career on the road.

Winning half your games on the road, consistently, is never a mark this program has achieved; very few programs, ever, have been able to do so over a multi-season arc.

And we're in Mike's 4th year.

Aren't we in a 3 team league?

[Tim]

Nope. 10  sec wins will be enough.we are going to be in the Dance.

Quoted for posterity sake.

FCJ, have you watched any SEC basketball this year? 

[Tim]

Pure none sense. we fish in the top 3 in the sec and we are going dancing. and we are going dancing. sorry to all the haters, but Mike and the players are going to the NCAA this year.

10 Wins won't be in the top 3.  Changing your story again.

Is it top 3 or 10 wins?

[GuvHog]

Solid home win for the Hogs. They should finish 11-2 in non conference play then that first SEC game at Georgia is crucial and the Hogs really need that road win.

[ErieHog]

Aren't we in a 3 team league?

The SWC struggled to get to 3 towards the end;  it was Us, then usually Texas (albeit by no means a certainty),  and then maybe someone else.     The last 5 years for the SEC have been 4,3, 5, 4, and 3-- so roughly a 4 bid league, with Arkansas not securing a single bid in those 5 years;  the last 5 of the SWC (including  Peak Nolan)  were  3, 3, 2, 3, and 2  -- and Arkansas teams represented 4 of the 13 bids.

That's a 19-9 edge for the SEC over a 5 year period, for teams not named Arkansas that were placed into the tournament.   

[Champs04]

Forrest you think any win is a big win. These games are expected. Your supposed to win at home. A big win would be beating a ranked team at home. Any win on the road right now would be a big win. You just like saying a BIG WIN cause your so far up Mike Anderson's but it is amazing. I bet your dog is named Mike Anderson, your child Mike Anderson, you had your wifes name changed to.... Yep Mike Anderson.

[dsims2k3]

Forrest you think any win is a big win. These games are expected. Your supposed to win at home. A big win would be beating a ranked team at home. Any win on the road right now would be a big win. You just like saying a BIG WIN cause your so far up Mike Anderson's but it is amazing. I bet your dog is named Mike Anderson, your child Mike Anderson, you had your wifes name changed to.... Yep Mike Anderson.

No game is a guarantee. Research Dayton, it will be a big win in March.

[ricepig]

The SWC struggled to get to 3 towards the end;  it was Us, then usually Texas (albeit by no means a certainty),  and then maybe someone else.     The last 5 years for the SEC have been 4,3, 5, 4, and 3-- so roughly a 4 bid league, with Arkansas not securing a single bid in those 5 years;  the last 5 of the SWC (including  Peak Nolan)  were  3, 3, 2, 3, and 2  -- and Arkansas teams represented 4 of the 13 bids.

That's a 19-9 edge for the SEC over a 5 year period, for teams not named Arkansas that were placed into the tournament.   

So, 19-13, got it.

[ErieHog]

So, 19-13, got it.

Not really, no.    When you consider Arkansas can't play itself, it is 19-9.   

[ricepig]

Not really, no.    When you consider Arkansas can't play itself, it is 19-9.   

No, really when I asked for how many teams in the league got a bid, it's 19-13.

[ErieHog]

No, really when I asked for how many teams in the league got a bid, it's 19-13.

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That's being deliberately obtuse;  you are asking for comparative league strengths to gauge Arkansas' relative competition-- and in one case, Arkansas was the banner carrier for an even thinner league, and in the other, we aren't even a drop in the bucket of a much better performing group.

[forrest city joe]

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That's being deliberately obtuse;  you are asking for comparative league strengths to gauge Arkansas' relative competition-- and in one case, Arkansas was the banner carrier for an even thinner league, and in the other, we aren't even a drop in the bucket of a much better performing group.

He looking for anything to prove Mike Anderson is failing. he had a bad day yesterday. so he and the other haters are lashing out.

[forrest city joe]

Let's turn the tables here Joe. Show me where MA is succeeding.

How about the team getting better every year.
18 wins the first year
19 wins the 2nd year
22 wins the 3rd year and NIT bid
3 wins in a row against a KY team that has way more talent. no team in the country has beat KY 3 times in a row.
This program is improving every year under coach Mike Anderson. and we had a big win yesterday against a good Dayton team. and a big road win at SMU. this program is back. and haters like you may as well get use to it. Mike Anderson is not going anywhere. and he is not going anywhere because he going to keep winning. GET OVER YOUR HATE FOR HIM!

[ricepig]

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That's being deliberately obtuse;  you are asking for comparative league strengths to gauge Arkansas' relative competition-- and in one case, Arkansas was the banner carrier for an even thinner league, and in the other, we aren't even a drop in the bucket of a much better performing group.

I guess the fact one conference is 50% bigger than the other doesn't matter either?

[ricepig]

He looking for anything to prove Mike Anderson is failing. he had a bad day yesterday. so he and the other haters are lashing out.

I had a great day yesterday, unlike you, I see both the good and the bad.

[forrest city joe]

I had a great day yesterday, unlike you, I see both the good and the bad.

No you had a bad day. you were hoping Mike and the Hog would play bad and lose yet again. but it backfired on you. that's why you are so pissed. you may as well get over it. because Mike Anderson is going to be the coach here for a long time. stop your whining and crying about Mike and the team.

[ricepig]

No you had a bad day. you were hoping Mike and the Hog would play bad and lose yet again. but it backfired on you. that's why you are so pissed. you may as well get over it. because Mike Anderson is going to be the coach here for a long time. stop your whining and crying about Mike and the team.

You can't be as stupid as your posts make you out to be, but maybe you are. Find a post I've ever called for him to be fired, you won't, because you can't, go kick rocks.

[forrest city joe]

You can't be as stupid as your posts make you out to be, but maybe you are. Find a post I've ever called for him to be fired, you won't, because you can't, go kick rocks.

All your post speak for itself. i don't need to add anything else. MIKE ANDERSON IS GOING TO BE THE COACH HERE, SO GET OVER IT

[ricepig]

All your post speak for itself. i don't need to add anything else. MIKE ANDERSON IS GOING TO BE THE COACH HERE, SO GET OVER IT

Because you can't, lol.

[ErieHog]

I guess the fact one conference is 50% bigger than the other doesn't matter either?

Its not 50% bigger,  9 teams vs. 12 or 14, dependent on year-- and college basketball has more competition now than ever- between 35 and 50 more teams that are eligible to compete for tournament bids,   now, vs then (CBB really exploded in teams right as we transitioned to the SEC)

[ErieHog]

Joe,

Division or conference championships?
NCAA bids?
NCAA wins?

Those are the things that really matter.
The NIT ceased to be meaningful in the 1950's.

Unless this team MAKES the NCAA tournament THIS YEAR and wins an NCAA game, you are looking at a SIX YEAR absence from the NCAA tournament and (potentially) Anderson's fourth year in a row. 

The team couldn't even get past the SECOND round of the NIT last year.

Joe, I'll admit that I like poking you a bit every now and then just to see what kind of reaction you'll make but in trying to put that aside for a moment, even you should admit this has been a bleak run (really starting with the turn of the century) for the program.

You are pointing to a small increase in wins as evidence of the program's improvement.

It is not enough. 

When MA was hired, a lot of people (and I am sure that includes you) wanted to see the program return to the heights it enjoyed in the early to mid 90's.

It has not. 

And in that fact, I can't find any joy whatsoever. Just disappointment.

And posts like this are why I can't take critics of Mike Anderson terribly silly.

Division championships? Really?  The SEC hasn't had a single season with divisions, since Mike Anderson arrived.

This is a program that had mustered 3 bids in the tournament and a whopping *1* win, in the decade prior to Mike's arrival, so lets not pretend like he's underachieving on that front.

If we ever want to even approach the early to mid 90s again,  we don't get to ignore that it took the mid and late 80s to get there.

We could win a National Title, I'm convinced, and people would come on Jump Ball to complain about the margin.

[ricepig]

Its not 50% bigger,  9 teams vs. 12 or 14, dependent on year-- and college basketball has more competition now than ever- between 35 and 50 more teams that are eligible to compete for tournament bids,   now, vs then (CBB really exploded in teams right as we transitioned to the SEC)

9 teams, correct? Arkansas, Texas, TCU, aTm, T Tech, Baylor, SMU, Rice, Houston??

[ErieHog]

9 teams, correct? Arkansas, Texas, TCU, aTm, T Tech, Baylor, SMU, Rice, Houston??

Right, 9 teams.  I fixed my typo between my initial post and your reply, I think.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

All your post speak for itself. i don't need to add anything else. MIKE ANDERSON IS GOING TO BE THE COACH HERE, SO GET OVER IT

Joe you are bludgeoning the mike haters into submission. You are ahead on points and it looks like a tko is just around the corner. 

Now I wouldn't be human if I didn't see a bit of irony in the fact that you continue to harp on the theme of Cryers and haters when you spent approximately 2 years crying and hating on Jeff long, who just happens to still be our athletic director (I am trying to harken back to that golden age of hogville and remember if anyone every told you even once to get over your crying and called you a Long hater).

As I have already stated, I am fascinated by your lightning rod threads and your talent for sucking people into these threads that try to reason with you and they come in with good intentions and walk out staggering and spitting out blood and teeth and have brain matter leaking out of their head wondering what hit them.

I'm a fan, joe.  A big one.  I get it. I get you and support you 100%.  Go mike Anderson and go hogs! 

[Champs04]

Mike and the hog?

[porkinsons disease]

Joe you are bludgeoning the mike haters into submission. You are ahead on points and it looks like a tko is just around the corner. 

Now I wouldn't be human if I didn't see a bit of irony in the fact that you continue to harp on the theme of Cryers and haters when you spent approximately 2 years crying and hating on Jeff long, who just happens to still be our athletic director (I am trying to harken back to that golden age of hogville and remember if anyone every told you even once to get over your crying and called you a Long hater).

As I have already stated, I am fascinated by your lightning rod threads and your talent for sucking people into these threads that try to reason with you and they come in with good intentions and walk out staggering and spitting out blood and teeth and have brain matter leaking out of their head wondering what hit them.

I'm a fan, joe.  A big one.  I get it. I get you and support you 100%.  Go mike Anderson and go hogs! 

ahhh yes, he is "the Archie Bunker" of Hogville.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

ahhh yes, he is "the Archie Bunker" of Hogville.

I don't know about that.

[Hog1952]

Mike and the hog won't get lucky and beat KY again.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

Mike and the hog won't get lucky and beat KY again.

Quit your crying.  You are mike Anderson hater.  He ain't going anywhere so get over it.  Go Arkansas Andersons!

[Champs04]

That's funny!

[dagnamit]

Quit your crying.  You are mike Anderson hater.  He ain't going anywhere so get over it.  Go Arkansas Andersons!

Mike Arkansas Andersons!!!!!!!

[Hog1952]

Quit your crying.  You are mike Anderson hater.  He ain't going anywhere so get over it.  Go Arkansas Andersons!

Ok I'm going to go kick rocks

[porkinsons disease]

I don't know about that.

You're right. Archie Bunker is more tolerant of others opinions.

[jmb1973]

Pure none sense. we fish in the top 3 in the sec and we are going dancing. and we are going dancing. sorry to all the haters, but Mike and the players are going to the NCAA this year.

Is there a fishing tournament to go dancing? Is it a bass tournament? This makes none sense. Fishing in the SEC to play in the big dance.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

Joe and Bob knight both loved the officiating crew yesterday.  I can't think of two people who have shown more disdain for refs than the two of them.

I'll cut to the chase...is forrest city joe really Bob knight?  Is he the guy who has been here grinding axes all these years?

[HognitiveDissonance]

FCJ used to be my hero. I looked forward to hearing him on the radio and would agree most of the time and would always be entertained, at the minimum. FCJ was a talk radio legend.

This Mike Anderson love fest has made me do a 180, though. Support is one thing, which I respect and don't mind reading someone's opinion at all, but carrying on a never-ending agenda is another thing altogether. To explain this deep infatuation with MA, either he's getting old and senile and not thinking rationally, or he's playing the race card and is determined to see MA succeed, whatever it takes. There's no other logical explanation for this endless MA propaganda.

[TheRazorbackGuy]

FCJ used to be my hero. I looked forward to hearing him on the radio and would agree most of the time and would always be entertained, at the minimum. FCJ was a talk radio legend.

This Mike Anderson love fest has made me do a 180, though. Support is one thing, which I respect and don't mind reading someone's opinion at all, but carrying on a never-ending agenda is another thing altogether. To explain this deep infatuation with MA, either he's getting old and senile and not thinking rationally, or he's playing the race card and is determined to see MA succeed, whatever it takes. There's no other logical explanation for this endless MA propaganda.

According to FCJ, the villianous Rock Kickers are out in full force

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[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

I just think that once something works for you, you keep going to that same move.  Killer  Karl Kox used the brain buster for years.  Never needed a different finishing move.  Wrestling II has that million dollar knee lift. 

Joe is gonna dance with who brung him.  Let's sit back and enjoy his magic show.

[RazorPiggie]

Why is it that anytime someone questions the basketball team they are labeled as a hater or "pissed" that we won?

I don't think there is a single person in Razorback Nation that would be pissed that we won. The man love that is going around this place is overwhelming.

[MountieDawg]

The team played well Saturday, the offense went through Portis.

[JayBell]

So we like to ignore the big losses, huh?  You know who doesn't ignore those losses?  The selection committee.  Terrible losses at Alabama, A&M and Georgia kept Arkansas out of the NCAA Tournament last year, plus the neutral site losses to California and South Carolina.  This team can literally beat anyone at Bud Walton.  That's a given.  It's great and it's been that way for so long that we take it for granted, but home wins do not get you into the Big Dance.

[JayBell]

Why is it that anytime someone questions the basketball team they are labeled as a hater or "pissed" that we won?

I don't think there is a single person in Razorback Nation that would be pissed that we won. The man love that is going around this place is overwhelming.

It was worse last year when people dared questioned Anderson's leadership with the team sitting at 13-8 and 2-6 in the SEC.  The team answered with 8 wins in their next 9 games.  They improved again and Anderson has his most talented group ever at Arkansas, by far, and yet they still show the same weaknesses characteristic of Anderson's teams.

Arkansas still has a tendency to go 5-9 minutes without hardly scoring any points, they still get beat on the boards too much, players like Harris still get to go crazy out there and Anderson still shows poor judgment in his substitution patterns, namely that debacle at Clemson.

Arkansas is improving, no doubt, but the program is going to stagnate where it is until the team's actual issues are addressed.