Lunney talks in-state offers and other topics

[BornaHog]

Never suggest such.  I'm saying they do it.

   And isn't that one of the things about Hootie that everyone hates? Personally I wholeheartedly agree with making sure and only offering after they meet expectations!
  In one of CBB's pressers, he stated that he had offered an instate kid in Wisconsin. The kid did not make it and when he had to pull the kid's offer, it really tore him up to have to pull it. He said that is the reason he is so slow with instate offers, because he doesn't want to have to do that again!

  Again, I like this attitude toward not just instate, but to all recruits! Make sure and kids will learn   IF ARKANSAS OFFERS AND YOU COMMIT, YOU WILL HAVE A SPOT   !!!   WPS    :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:   GHG

[Cinco de Hogo]

I just wish you guys opinions had anything to do with winning a national championship.  You see, if we ever win a national championship it will be because we are offering a differant level player than we are offering now at this stage in the game.  It's doesn't have a thing to do with when or how many offers we extend to Arkansas Highschoolers.  We have to get to another level players and the sooner the better.

The steps are to continue to improve our recruiting and to continue to improve or record.  The level of player we will need and be offering are the same types that exist today and they hold offers from most of the elite teams that we are chasing.  If we are going to offer them three-four years from now why can't we offer them now?  I fully believe that although you can alway find the exceptions you need to get on these players early.  These players live in another stratosphere.  They already know, think or believe they are great, they will never be excited about a program that makes them wait til halfway thru their senior year to get a offer.

You can say anything smart you want to but it will not change these young men's attitudes now or three years from now when they sign their LOI with Bama, OSU, LSU, UF, UGA, etc. 

[ricepig]

I just wish you guys opinions had anything to do with winning a national championship.  You see, if we ever win a national championship it will be because we are offering a differant level player than we are offering now at this stage in the game.  It's doesn't have a thing to do with when or how many offers we extend to Arkansas Highschoolers.  We have to get to another level players and the sooner the better.

The steps are to continue to improve our recruiting and to continue to improve or record.  The level of player we will need and be offering are the same types that exist today and they hold offers from most of the elite teams that we are chasing.  If we are going to offer them three-four years from now why can't we offer them now?  I fully believe that although you can alway find the exceptions you need to get on these players early.  These players live in another stratosphere.  They already know, think or believe they are great, they will never be excited about a program that makes them wait til halfway thru their senior year to get a offer.

You can say anything smart you want to but it will not change these young men's attitudes now or three years from now when they sign their LOI with Bama, OSU, LSU, UF, UGA, etc. 

We've offered guys in the top 10 of their position ranking, I don't think it's their Sr season, is it?

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/Offers

[Cinco de Hogo]

We've offered guys in the top 10 of their position ranking, I don't think it's their Sr season, is it?

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/Offers

Yes we offer players in the top ten the question would be is it enough and is it soon enough.  I believe in having a plan and working that plan, I also believe that experience is earn by making mistakes while wisdom is learning from the mistakes of others.  We don't have to do exactly what someone else is doing but in the end we have to beat them at their plan.  I would "like" to believe CBB plan will do that but my problem is  don't see it flying with the players I'm talking about.   Those other teams out their are getting uncommon players we never offer.  Sooner or later we need to be on their radar screens.

[ricepig]

Yes we offer players in the top ten the question would be is it enough and is it soon enough.  I believe in having a plan and working that plan, I also believe that experience is earn by making mistakes while wisdom is learning from the mistakes of others.  We don't have to do exactly what someone else is doing but in the end we have to beat them at their plan.  I would "like" to believe CBB plan will do that but my problem is  don't see it flying with the players I'm talking about.   Those other teams out their are getting uncommon players we never offer.  Sooner or later we need to be on their radar screens.

Those schools are always going to get players we do or don't offer, and obviously, they don't meet our 3 A's approach. It's his process, I have no problem with him sticking to it. It's obvious, you do, however, I don't see us changing it any time soon. If it doesn't produce enough wins, maybe the next guy will offer everyone.

[Cinco de Hogo]

Those schools are always going to get players we do or don't offer, and obviously, they don't meet our 3 A's approach. It's his process, I have no problem with him sticking to it. It's obvious, you do, however, I don't see us changing it any time soon. If it doesn't produce enough wins, maybe the next guy will offer everyone.

I think some adjustment will be made in the future.  Whether that is the plan all along, experience or wisdom we will probably argue about it then.

[tophawg19]

one thing i'm seeing is more teams feel confident about coming into Arkansas and offering kids than ever before . The other side of the coin is this . Even though a kid may be a 5 star player , he may not fit your system . Some get passed over every year because they just don't fit the scheme . With that said i have noticed a oddity in our QB recruiting . We have offers out to several smaller , faster dual threat QB's . More along the line of Peavey than the other qb's we have

[ricepig]

one thing i'm seeing is more teams feel confident about coming into Arkansas and offering kids than ever before . The other side of the coin is this . Even though a kid may be a 5 star player , he may not fit your system . Some get passed over every year because they just don't fit the scheme . With that said i have noticed a oddity in our QB recruiting . We have offers out to several smaller , faster dual threat QB's . More along the line of Peavey than the other qb's we have

We have 1 dual threat QB offer out, and he's been committed to aTm for a while. The other 3 are Pro-style QB's, according to the rankings.

[Cinco de Hogo]

We've offered guys in the top 10 of their position ranking, I don't think it's their Sr season, is it?

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/Offers

According to that site if I do the math right we have 89 offers out.  That's a quick jump from 64. 

[ricepig]

According to that site if I do the math right we have 89 offers out.  That's a quick jump from 64. 

Yep, 9 week grades at most high schools are in, or close.

[HogNDas]

Yep, 9 week grades at most high schools are in, or close.

I'm sure that's what we've been waiting on....

[ricepig]

I'm sure that's what we've been waiting on....

Part of the process, so yeah, for those borderline guys, it's an important "A".

[Obi-Hawg Kenobi]

I just wish you guys opinions had anything to do with winning a national championship.  You see, if we ever win a national championship it will be because we are offering a differant level player than we are offering now at this stage in the game.  It's doesn't have a thing to do with when or how many offers we extend to Arkansas Highschoolers.  We have to get to another level players and the sooner the better.

The steps are to continue to improve our recruiting and to continue to improve or record.  The level of player we will need and be offering are the same types that exist today and they hold offers from most of the elite teams that we are chasing.  If we are going to offer them three-four years from now why can't we offer them now?  I fully believe that although you can alway find the exceptions you need to get on these players early.  These players live in another stratosphere.  They already know, think or believe they are great, they will never be excited about a program that makes them wait til halfway thru their senior year to get a offer.

You can say anything smart you want to but it will not change these young men's attitudes now or three years from now when they sign their LOI with Bama, OSU, LSU, UF, UGA, etc. 

+1 sir

[HogNDas]

I just wish you guys opinions had anything to do with winning a national championship.  You see, if we ever win a national championship it will be because we are offering a differant level player than we are offering now at this stage in the game.  It's doesn't have a thing to do with when or how many offers we extend to Arkansas Highschoolers.  We have to get to another level players and the sooner the better.

The steps are to continue to improve our recruiting and to continue to improve or record.  The level of player we will need and be offering are the same types that exist today and they hold offers from most of the elite teams that we are chasing.  If we are going to offer them three-four years from now why can't we offer them now?  I fully believe that although you can alway find the exceptions you need to get on these players early.  These players live in another stratosphere.  They already know, think or believe they are great, they will never be excited about a program that makes them wait til halfway thru their senior year to get a offer.

You can say anything smart you want to but it will not change these young men's attitudes now or three years from now when they sign their LOI with Bama, OSU, LSU, UF, UGA, etc.

why can't I calmly explain it like you did...the BEST recruiting tool there is is WINNING...we are slowly getting there, but we won't if we don't offer the 4 & 5 *'s.....why we aren't is beyond me... an 8 win season is great with the talent we have on hand....

[Hawgar The Horrible]

why can't I calmly explain it like you did...the BEST recruiting tool there is is WINNING...we are slowly getting there, but we won't if we don't offer the 4 & 5 *'s.....why we aren't is beyond me... an 8 win season is great with the talent we have on hand....

We don't and we aren't? I just counted 47 4* or better offers on 247Sports.

[younghog]

Audio link doesn't work for me..

[HogNDas]

We don't and we aren't? I just counted 47 4* or better offers on 247Sports.

Hope they've all been adequately vetted....

[PorkSoda]

If we are going to offer them three-four years from now why can't we offer them now?  I fully believe that although you can alway find the exceptions you need to get on these players early.

recruiting doesnt only mean offering.  anyone we offer, we have likely recruited for years.   meaning that we have been sending them letters, showing up to thier games, talking to their coaches and family, etc etc

[HogNDas]

recruiting doesnt only mean offering.  anyone we offer, we have likely recruited for years.   meaning that we have been sending them letters, showing up to thier games, talking to their coaches and family, etc etc

Hmmmm, I bet that is the case with Bama too, but they ARE offering.... strongly believe we need to work harder, make more offers, and make them sooner

[Hawgar The Horrible]

Hmmmm, I bet that is the case with Bama too, but they ARE offering.... strongly believe we need to work harder, make more offers, and make them sooner

[PorkSoda]

Hmmmm, I bet that is the case with Bama too, but they ARE offering.... strongly believe we need to work harder, make more offers, and make them sooner

last guy we offered early (he was a sophmore) was overweight by the time he was a senior, and never contributed once in college.

we are not in a position to compete with bama, and offering kids early isn't going to change that.

when we win 4 NCs over the next decade, then maybe we can compete with bama for recruits.

[Cinco de Hogo]

last guy we offered early (he was a sophmore) was overweight by the time he was a senior, and never contributed once in college.

we are not in a position to compete with bama, and offering kids early isn't going to change that.

when we win 4 NCs over the next decade, then maybe we can compete with bama for recruits.

Your throwing in the towel eh?

[HogNDas]

last guy we offered early (he was a sophmore) was overweight by the time he was a senior, and never contributed once in college.

we are not in a position to compete with bama, and offering kids early isn't going to change that.

when we win 4 NCs over the next decade, then maybe we can compete with bama for recruits.

if it works for them, then do what they do, but do it better!!!!  WE CAN IF WE BELIEVE WE CAN!!!!!!!!

[FBREW000]

if it works for them, then do what they do, but do it better!!!!  WE CAN IF WE BELIEVE WE CAN!!!!!!!!

ladies and gents, meet the little train that could....