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[Piggfoot]

What was the rule on the Auburn muffed punt that actually we recovered after it went throught the endzone?

[HuntsvilleHawgFan]

The ruling on the field was the ball was out of the end zone before it was recovered, therefore a touchback.  I do not know why it was not reviewed, that is the puzzle to me.

[hogmolar]

At first I was assuming that is would be the same as a kickoff that goes through the back of the end zone, but since it was contacting by the player outside of the end zone it should have been considered a live ball that was fumbled out of the back of the end zone resulting in a safety correct?

[Oklahawg]

Yes! This needs further explanation. I suspect that most coaches don't know exactly how that was ruled. The refs certainly needed to "phone a friend." That seemed the perfect place for a review - even if to confirm the ruling on the field. Let the experts chat it up for a bit.

[Piggfoot]

At first I was assuming that is would be the same as a kickoff that goes through the back of the end zone, but since it was contacting by the player outside of the end zone it should have been considered a live ball that was fumbled out of the back of the end zone resulting in a safety correct?

I thought it should have been a safety. Most around me thought so too.

[Kevin]

a muff punt is not considered a fumble.

[hogsanity]

The key is what was the force the put it through the endzone. Since it was a muff, the force was still the kick since the receiving team never had possession. Same reason a muffed punt can be recovered by the kicking team but not advanced, it is a muff, not a fumble.

On the recovery, it was clear that the Razorback player touched out of bounds before gaining control, thus a touchback, not a safety. IT was reviewed, every play is reviewed, but the replay officials saw clear evidence, quickly, that the call on the field was correct, and therefore did not buzz down to tell them it was under further review.

[PonderinHog]

To me it looked like our guy had possession before he slid out of bounds.  Not sure how they came up with the ruling.  Was it not reviewed?

[hogmolar]

I thought it should have been a safety. Most around me thought so too.

Okay here is a clarification, it was considered a live ball and had we recovered it would have been a TD.  If we had not touched the ball and it had went through the back of the end zone it would have been a safety, but we were the last team to touch it before it went out of the back of the end zone resulting in the call of a touch back.

[31to6]

The ruling on the field was the ball was out of the end zone before it was recovered, therefore a touchback.  I do not know why it was not reviewed, that is the puzzle to me.

Nothing to review, really. Pretty obviously neither team ever had possession so the result is a dead ball with possession awarded to the receiving team at the 20. I disagreed at the game because I thought they had possession during the scrum and fumbled (from my perfect view through cardinal-tinted glasses from all the way across the field through the crowd (lol)!!) but while I could not stomach rewatching the entire game, I did rewatch this play and it wasn't even close to questionable.

https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rule-6-kicks/3/

[31to6]

Okay here is a clarification, it was considered a live ball and had we recovered it would have been a TD. If we had not touched the ball and it had went through the back of the end zone it would have been a safety, but we were the last team to touch it before it went out of the back of the end zone resulting in the call of a touch back.

No. It doesn't matter whether we touched it or not. Muff != possession. Only way that becomes a safety would be if AU got possession, then fumbled, and then it went out the back of EZ. [Edit: well, also a safety if AU recovers own fumble in EZ.]

[hogsanity]

If we had not touched the ball and it had went through the back of the end zone it would have been a safety,

WRONG

[oldhog63]

Another question along the same lines. I think it was the 3rd quarter. Auburn punted and it hit the leg of one of our players (#9, i seem to remember) while he was blocking. Ball went sideways and Auburn player picked it up and handed it to the ref. I thought for sure it should have been Auburn's ball. Game was out of hand at that point anyway, so refs probably weren't too worried about piling on.

[hogsanity]

Another question along the same lines. I think it was the 3rd quarter. Auburn punted and it hit the leg of one of our players (#9, i seem to remember) while he was blocking. Ball went sideways and Auburn player picked it up and handed it to the ref. I thought for sure it should have been Auburn's ball. Game was out of hand at that point anyway, so refs probably weren't too worried about piling on.

If it is the same one I am thinking of, it hit the Aub player 1st, which made it Hog ball at that spot, regardless of what happened after that touching.

[HoggyCat]

Exactly what you said.  He muffed it, ball rolled out of end zone. I thought it was kick catch interference, but the ball bounced off his shoulder pad before our player hit him.

[pignparadise]

The key is what was the force the put it through the endzone. Since it was a muff, the force was still the kick since the receiving team never had possession. Same reason a muffed punt can be recovered by the kicking team but not advanced, it is a muff, not a fumble.

On the recovery, it was clear that the Razorback player touched out of bounds before gaining control, thus a touchback, not a safety. IT was reviewed, every play is reviewed, but the replay officials saw clear evidence, quickly, that the call on the field was correct, and therefore did not buzz down to tell them it was under further review.

This is correct. The force determines it. To be a safety the receiving team must put a new directional force on the ball.

[oldhog63]

If it is the same one I am thinking of, it hit the Aub player 1st, which made it Hog ball at that spot, regardless of what happened after that touching.

Ok, from where I was sitting, it looked like it hit the back of our players leg first.