Red And White Game November 1

[TomBigBeeHog]

Yes, in the red/white game 14 players tallies time. 1 is a graduate who is out of eligibility. 2 are walkons brought in to have enough bodies to play defense in practice, and I think ( but could be wrong ) one is a transfer who has to sit out this season. So talking about recruiting is an obvious outflow of that.

But lets talks about the game. Do you think, barring Beard coming back, that Whitt is going to log as much or more time at Pg than Durham?

I would love to see Whitt at the point. He has good handles and a high bball IQ. Still need to see him in games against stiff competition but I could see him coming in and taking the job. Mayberry did it as a frosh and so did Kareem Reid but I think both of them were Mc D All Americans though.

[hogsanity]

I would love to see Whitt at the point. He has good handles and a high bball IQ. Still need to see him in games against stiff competition but I could see him coming in and taking the job. Mayberry did it as a frosh and so did Kareem Reid but I think both of them were Mc D All Americans though.

My concern with him at PG is not his play, it is what that leaves us at the 2 spot.  That is not Durhams game. Bell'a limit has always been his defense, and no idea what we will get from anyone else at that spot.

[TomBigBeeHog]

My concern with him at PG is not his play, it is what that leaves us at the 2 spot.  That is not Durhams game. Bell'a limit has always been his defense, and no idea what we will get from anyone else at that spot.

If the Bell isn't ringing from 3, I like Hannah's as an option. Neither will probably set the world on fire defensively but I think they will be serviceable. Pat Bradley did ok.

[HawgAdvocate]

My concern with him at PG is not his play, it is what that leaves us at the 2 spot.  That is not Durhams game. Bell'a limit has always been his defense, and no idea what we will get from anyone else at that spot.

Again though, we don't play traditional PG/SGs roles on offense. Hence why we prefer combo-guards. It's a motion offense that normally allows up to four players the opportunity to handle the ball and create when in the half-court. That's why the staff tells Whitt and Barford and Monk that they can all be 'PG,' since they'd all have plenty of opportunity to make plays.

[hogsanity]

Again though, we don't play traditional PG/SGs roles on offense. Hence why we prefer combo-guards. It's a motion offense that normally allows up to four players the opportunity to handle the ball and create when in the half-court. That's why the staff tells Whitt and Barford and Monk that they can all be 'PG,' since they'd all have plenty of opportunity to make plays.

Well, that may work if you have 3 guys that can run the point, but right now, I do not see that. Durham is too To prone, and Bell and Hannahs do not have the ball handling skills, imo.

[TomBigBeeHog]

Well, that may work if you have 3 guys that can run the point, but right now, I do not see that. Durham is too To prone, and Bell and Hannahs do not have the ball handling skills, imo.

You don't think they can handle the ball as well as Pat Bradley?

[hogsanity]

You don't think they can handle the ball as well as Pat Bradley?

Pat was not asked to do it much, and, imo, had better talent around him. Pat and Bell are about the same, outside threat, Bell may take it to the basket a little more often, and neither is great on defense.

[TomBigBeeHog]

Pat was not asked to do it much, and, imo, had better talent around him. Pat and Bell are about the same, outside threat, Bell may take it to the basket a little more often, and neither is great on defense.

That's why I say they are serviceable. Bell and Hannahs might not be great on defense but I think they can be adequate. We may run and press a little more to hide some of their weakness in the half court.

[hogsanity]

That's why I say they are serviceable. Bell and Hannahs might not be great on defense but I think they can be adequate. We may run and press a little more to hide some of their weakness in the half court.

Maybe, but with that comes the risk of more fouls and more cheapies given up too.

[jjdlc]

That's why I say they are serviceable. Bell and Hannahs might not be great on defense but I think they can be adequate. We may run and press a little more to hide some of their weakness in the half court.

We really don't know what Hannahs will look like on D yet.  Having both Bell and Hannahs does give us a higher likelyhood that one of them will get hot any given night.  If they both get hot...

[hawginbigd1]

Pat was not asked to do it much, and, imo, had better talent around him. Pat and Bell are about the same, outside threat, Bell may take it to the basket a little more often, and neither is great on defense.

I think comparing the 2 on either end of the floor is a reach IMO, Bell does not have the eye Bradley had, Bell plays serviceable defense where Bradley was a mannequin!

[hogman99]

Pat was not asked to do it much, and, imo, had better talent around him. Pat and Bell are about the same, outside threat, Bell may take it to the basket a little more often, and neither is great on defense.

I will take Bradley over Bell any day of the week and twice on Sunday's.  Pat had that want too and great basketball IQ who knew where to be and when to be there. Bradley was able to overcome some of his defensive weakness due to knowing what he could do and then doing it. Also, he had Nolan barking orders at him and he knew Nolan meant business so he did what he was told.

[TomBigBeeHog]

Saw where Kingsley had 27 points in the game. Nice to see him putting the ball in the hole. Also showed a nice touch at the line.

[GuvHog]

Saw where Kingsley had 27 points in the game. Nice to see him putting the ball in the hole. Also showed a nice touch at the line.

If Kingsley can score like that during the season (at least average 18 PPG) this team may be better in the paint than I originally thought.

[The_Iceman]

If Kingsley can score like that during the season (at least average 18 PPG) this team may be better in the paint than I originally thought.

Bobby averaged 17.5 ppg last year. I think 10ppg would be a nice start for Moses.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Bobby averaged 17.5 ppg last year. I think 10ppg would be a nice start for Moses.

Yeah, I agree.

I can't see Moses giving us more than Bobby did his freshman season scoring wise. I see Moses's average being around the 9-12 point mark.

[The_Iceman]

Yeah, I agree.

I can't see Moses giving us more than Bobby did his freshman season scoring wise. I see Moses's average being around the 9-12 point mark.

You were so close. You couldn't make it a little Biggers and go 10-12?

[King Kong]

You were so close. You couldn't make it a little Biggers and go 10-12?

He can't as the 9pts per game projection is assuming Kingsley battles foul trouble all year.

These message board projections have super complicated math formula to them.