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Pigliophile

February 23, 2016, 04:29:43 pm
After listening to the recruiting report on Bo's show this afternoon I am excited about the team next year. If Kingsley stays, and he should, I think we will be a very solid team next year that will shut up a lot of the haters. I think we will have a good mix of size and speed especially at the guard position.

Okay, you may commence to bashing.

elksnort

February 23, 2016, 04:48:59 pm #1
"Haters"

Really?
 

SRV

February 23, 2016, 04:50:36 pm #2
Quote from: Pigliophile on February 23, 2016, 04:29:43 pm
After listening to the recruiting report on Bo's show this afternoon I am excited about the team next year. If Kingsley stays, and he should, I think we will be a very solid team next year that will shut up a lot of the haters. I think we will have a good mix of size and speed especially at the guard position.

Okay, you may commence to bashing.

I agree....IF the Juco guys all make it to campus and can transition into D1 players fairly easily. I certainly hope so. I would love to see Mike get it back rolling. 

Woo Pig
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tophawg19

February 23, 2016, 04:52:20 pm #3
still not enough help in the paint . a lot depends on Moses Staying
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Uncommon

February 23, 2016, 04:53:46 pm #4
I would just like to have another center. I think you always need 2 on your team.  Maybe we can get a transfer.  Other than that, I like the numbers at guard and forward assuming Arlando Cook plays the 4 here.

labb

February 23, 2016, 05:24:30 pm #5
Quote from: Uncommon on February 23, 2016, 04:53:46 pm
I would just like to have another center. I think you always need 2 on your team.  Maybe we can get a transfer.  Other than that, I like the numbers at guard and forward assuming Arlando Cook plays the 4 here.
Don't rule Thompson out. He will be a lot better next season.

Uncommon

February 23, 2016, 05:30:45 pm #6
Quote from: labb on February 23, 2016, 05:24:30 pm
Don't rule Thompson out. He will be a lot better next season.
I see Thompson as a 4.  So we'd have 5 forwards and 1 center next season:
3 Small Forwards
Dustin Thomas
Lorenzo Jenkins
Adrio Bailey

2 Power Forwards
Arlando Cook
Trey Thompson

bvillepig

February 23, 2016, 09:47:02 pm #7
I was listening to coach K on the radio the other day. He said there is no such thing as point guards centers and forwards in todays game. He said the terms are used only to talk in layman's terms for people who really don't know the game.  He was trying to be nice.

The_Iceman

February 23, 2016, 09:54:39 pm #8
Quote from: Uncommon on February 23, 2016, 05:30:45 pm
I see Thompson as a 4.  So we'd have 5 forwards and 1 center next season:
3 Small Forwards
Dustin Thomas
Lorenzo Jenkins
Adrio Bailey

2 Power Forwards
Arlando Cook
Trey Thompson

Thompson is a 5 in our system. Only playing the 4 this year out of necessity.

OperationRestoreHawgBall

February 23, 2016, 09:59:43 pm #9
"Should" stay...is that your professional opinion as an NBA or European league scout?

Quote from: Pigliophile on February 23, 2016, 04:29:43 pm
After listening to the recruiting report on Bo's show this afternoon I am excited about the team next year. If Kingsley stays, and he should, I think we will be a very solid team next year that will shut up a lot of the haters. I think we will have a good mix of size and speed especially at the guard position.

Okay, you may commence to bashing.

nwahogfan1

February 23, 2016, 10:02:18 pm #10
Quote from: Pigliophile on February 23, 2016, 04:29:43 pm
After listening to the recruiting report on Bo's show this afternoon I am excited about the team next year. If Kingsley stays, and he should, I think we will be a very solid team next year that will shut up a lot of the haters. I think we will have a good mix of size and speed especially at the guard position.

Okay, you may commence to bashing.

We all want to have a very good team next year but with JUCOs it is hard to judge.  I admit Barford looks like a stud and is having a great year but how good is his competition.  Macon can really shoot the BB and with Hannahs coming back teams can not just concentrate on him.  If Thomas will stay out of trouble and give us some very good minutes at the 3/4 spot and Moses will come back then I think we should be a 20+ win team next year. 

I still would like to sign a highly rated 4/5 in the spring.

nwahogfan1

February 23, 2016, 10:05:13 pm #11
Quote from: bvillepig on February 23, 2016, 09:47:02 pm
I was listening to coach K on the radio the other day. He said there is no such thing as point guards centers and forwards in todays game. He said the terms are used only to talk in layman's terms for people who really don't know the game.  He was trying to be nice.

I bet he doesn't coach like there are no positions in College bb. I can see some playing 1 or 2 or a combo of both but they still play a  position.

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:08:27 pm #12
Quote from: Uncommon on February 23, 2016, 04:53:46 pm
I would just like to have another center. I think you always need 2 on your team.  Maybe we can get a transfer.  Other than that, I like the numbers at guard and forward assuming Arlando Cook plays the 4 here.

You don't need 2 centers;  look back at our best teams--  one center (Wilson), and multiple power forwards that could play different, sometimes physical styles.

The college game is lagging behind, but we're starting to see the trickle down of small ball, as well.    Size is less important than it has been in a long time.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

Karma

February 23, 2016, 10:09:55 pm #13
Quote from: ErieHog on February 23, 2016, 10:08:27 pm
You don't need 2 centers;  look back at our best teams--  one center (Wilson), and multiple power forwards that could play different, sometimes physical styles.

The college game is lagging behind, but we're starting to see the trickle down of small ball, as well.    Size is less important than it has been in a long time.
Darnell Robinson was a center.

ShadowHawg

February 23, 2016, 10:10:54 pm #14

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:12:32 pm #15
Quote from: Karma on February 23, 2016, 10:09:55 pm
Darnell Robinson was a center.

Darnell played 15+ feet away from the basket.    He was as much a center as he was a Gatorade cooler.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Pigliophile

February 23, 2016, 10:15:47 pm #16
Quote from: OperationRestoreHawgBall on February 23, 2016, 09:59:43 pm
"Should" stay...is that your professional opinion as an NBA or European league scout?

Did I say anything about being a professional? I'm an average fan who watches college basketball/NBA. I think his game still needs work. If he leaves early he will without a doubt get drafted. If he stays he will get a college degree and get drafted higher. That is my personal opinion. As is what 99% of what people say on this forum is.

ShadowHawg

February 23, 2016, 10:16:33 pm #17
Quote from: ErieHog on February 23, 2016, 10:12:32 pm
Darnell played 15+ feet away from the basket.    He was as much a center as he was a Gatorade cooler.

He was a combo type player. He could play center and he could shoot the outside. When we made our tournament run to the Sweet 16 with him he was primarily playing the block during the tournament.

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:17:56 pm #18
Quote from: bvillepig on February 23, 2016, 09:47:02 pm
I was listening to coach K on the radio the other day. He said there is no such thing as point guards centers and forwards in todays game. He said the terms are used only to talk in layman's terms for people who really don't know the game.  He was trying to be nice.

Jalen Rose has long maintained that 'positions' exist solely for the purpose of letting novices follow the game;   skill sets and roles are what define basketball, more than position.

There's a ton of truth to that.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ShadowHawg

February 23, 2016, 10:18:00 pm #19
Quote from: The_Iceman on February 23, 2016, 09:54:39 pm
Thompson is a 5 in our system. Only playing the 4 this year out of necessity.

He looks pretty good playing the 4.

WBOBO

February 23, 2016, 10:19:32 pm #20
Who is Wilson that Erie mentioned?  I remember Robinson and when he got into foul trouble Corliss
would come off the 4 to be 5 but I don't remember Wilson.
The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:21:58 pm #21
Quote from: WBOBO on February 23, 2016, 10:19:32 pm
Who is Wilson that Erie mentioned?  I remember Robinson and when he got into foul trouble Corliss
would come off the 4 to be 5 but I don't remember Wilson.

You don't remember Lee Wilson?  7 feet tall, bald, menacing, and a rugged post defender and rebounder who never left the paint, save to avoid  3 second calls?  I think he was originally from Waco, Texas.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ShadowHawg

February 23, 2016, 10:25:12 pm #22
Quote from: ErieHog on February 23, 2016, 10:17:56 pm
Jalen Rose has long maintained that 'positions' exist solely for the purpose of letting novices follow the game;   skill sets and roles are what define basketball, more than position.

There's a ton of truth to that.



I will give that "positions" have changed and are no longer the point/shooting guard/center/small forward/power forward. I think that the center position has nearly vanished entirely for instance, but point guards are still clearly distinguishable from shooting guards in nearly all circumstances not involving Seth Curry. Even though the position still exists, there are times when a true point guard is not on the floor, especially in the NBA.

It's very hard to tell the difference between a shooting guard and small forward for sure. What position would people say Lebron plays? He can run the point, man the block, shoot the 3, and guard all "5" spots. What do you call that?

intelligence

February 23, 2016, 10:26:35 pm #23
people are sleeping on macon but unaware that scouts from 2 nba teams were at one of his games last week in which he dropped 37 points... he seems to be close with Portis so do the math.
 

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:29:55 pm #24
Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 23, 2016, 10:25:12 pm


I will give that "positions" have changed and are no longer the point/shooting guard/center/small forward/power forward. I think that the center position has nearly vanished entirely for instance, but point guards are still clearly distinguishable from shooting guards in nearly all circumstances not involving Seth Curry. Even though the position still exists, there are times when a true point guard is not on the floor, especially in the NBA.

It's very hard to tell the difference between a shooting guard and small forward for sure. What position would people say Lebron plays? He can run the point, man the block, shoot the 3, and guard all "5" spots. What do you call that?



It depends on what style the team using him uses.  He's got the skill set to adjust to a number of approaches, though as he ages, he's shifting away from some roles.

Miami used him as a hybrid 3/2, depending on which end of the court they had him on;  Cleveland is using him more as a true 3, though you can see stretches where they go small ball and he almost plays a 4's role with their spacing.

Again, its about skill sets and usage, as much as about number.    The really great players have broad enough skills to tackle multiple roles, depending on approach to the game.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Karma

February 23, 2016, 10:32:35 pm #25
Quote from: ErieHog on February 23, 2016, 10:12:32 pm
Darnell played 15+ feet away from the basket.    He was as much a center as he was a Gatorade cooler.
Wrong.

ShadowHawg

February 23, 2016, 10:34:35 pm #26
Quote from: ErieHog on February 23, 2016, 10:29:55 pm
It depends on what style the team using him uses.  He's got the skill set to adjust to a number of approaches, though as he ages, he's shifting away from some roles.

Miami used him as a hybrid 3/2, depending on which end of the court they had him on;  Cleveland is using him more as a true 3, though you can see stretches where they go small ball and he almost plays a 4's role with their spacing.

Again, its about skill sets and usage, as much as about number.    The really great players have broad enough skills to tackle multiple roles, depending on approach to the game.

Exactly. I really don't know what I would call LeBron's "position". It seems like the new positions are things like ball handler, shooter, scorer, rim protector, rebounder, etc.

It's not your grandpa's basketball anymore. That's for sure.

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:35:29 pm #27
Quote from: Karma on February 23, 2016, 10:32:35 pm
Wrong.

I'd recommend re-watching those old games, if you believe otherwise.

He did very, very little of the post dirty work.  When we did work him with post action, it was invariably high post work, with Corliss working the low post.

Defensively he cleaned up on a fair number of help defense blocks, but he wasn't planting himself against many guys on the block.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:36:37 pm #28
Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 23, 2016, 10:34:35 pm
Exactly. I really don't know what I would call LeBron's "position". It seems like the new positions are things like ball handler, shooter, scorer, rim protector, rebounder, etc.

It's not your grandpa's basketball anymore. That's for sure.

If you have to classify him by position, he's a 3.   Its what his most natural role is, what his skills have merited the longest, and what he'll play more of at the back end of his remaining prime.

Its still a shoe-horning, but its as close as the wobbly position definitions allow.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

choppedporkextrasauce

February 23, 2016, 10:39:08 pm #29
Quote from: Karma on February 23, 2016, 10:32:35 pm
Wrong.

You are correct and Eric is wrong. Darnell loved to float outside but he did a lot of inside work that season. He was a force on the block.

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 10:42:09 pm #30
Quote from: choppedporkextrasauce on February 23, 2016, 10:39:08 pm
You are correct and Eric is wrong. Darnell loved to float outside but he did a lot of inside work that season. He was a force on the block.

Again, I'd encourage you to go back and watch some of that season-- there are plenty of youtube clips of the Hogs playing, albeit less of Darnell- a lot of them focus on the Corliss-Scotty floor time, for obvious reasons.

Darnell used to drive Nolan crazy because he could have been great on the block.   He just hated being there, would sulk and mope every time we tried to play him in that role for even limited minutes, and was never a post at Arkansas.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

hulk hog

February 23, 2016, 10:48:37 pm #31
The key to next year is how we improve on defense especially at guard and the perimeter. I don't think we will have trouble scoring points. This year gives me confidence in that.

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ShadowHawg

February 23, 2016, 11:07:49 pm #32
Quote from: hulk hog on February 23, 2016, 10:48:37 pm
The key to next year is how we improve on defense especially at guard and the perimeter. I don't think we will have trouble scoring points. This year gives me confidence in that.

Agreed. I am hoping that adding length in the back court will help on defense.

mhuff

February 23, 2016, 11:16:22 pm #33
Quote from: choppedporkextrasauce on February 23, 2016, 10:39:08 pm
You are correct and Eric is wrong. Darnell loved to float outside but he did a lot of inside work that season. He was a force on the block.

TheHAWGfather

February 23, 2016, 11:18:56 pm #34
 ;D
Quote from: ErieHog on February 23, 2016, 10:42:09 pm
Again, I'd encourage you to go back and watch some of that season-- there are plenty of youtube clips of the Hogs playing, albeit less of Darnell- a lot of them focus on the Corliss-Scotty floor time, for obvious reasons.

Darnell used to drive Nolan crazy because he could have been great on the block.   He just hated being there, would sulk and mope every time we tried to play him in that role for even limited minutes, and was never a post at Arkansas.




My favorite Nolan quote on Darnell.... " He's so slow he makes molasses look fast!"  ;D

ErieHog

February 23, 2016, 11:26:44 pm #35
Quote from: TheHAWGfather on February 23, 2016, 11:18:56 pm
;D

My favorite Nolan quote on Darnell.... " He's so slow he makes molasses look fast!"  ;D

My favorite was when he'd scream at him that his 8-10 foot baby hook was a 'chicken**** shot',  in early season games.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

SooiecidetillNuttgone

February 24, 2016, 01:08:07 am #36
Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 23, 2016, 10:25:12 pm


I will give that "positions" have changed and are no longer the point/shooting guard/center/small forward/power forward. I think that the center position has nearly vanished entirely for instance, but point guards are still clearly distinguishable from shooting guards in nearly all circumstances not involving Seth Curry. Even though the position still exists, there are times when a true point guard is not on the floor, especially in the NBA.

It's very hard to tell the difference between a shooting guard and small forward for sure. What position would people say Lebron plays? He can run the point, man the block, shoot the 3, and guard all "5" spots. What do you call that?




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latrops

February 24, 2016, 05:44:25 am #37
Quote from: bvillepig on February 23, 2016, 09:47:02 pm
I was listening to coach K on the radio the other day. He said there is no such thing as point guards centers and forwards in todays game. He said the terms are used only to talk in layman's terms for people who really don't know the game.  He was trying to be nice.

I doubt that is entirely accurate.  I agree that roles aren't nearly as defined and are much more interchangeable than in the past, but teams still have to have size, ball handling, post presence, shooting, etc.  Don't have many 6'9" guys bringing the ball up and facilitating, and you don't have many 6'2" guys setting up on the block or averaging 7+ rebounds.  You do have more bigs that can step out and hit from the perimeter and play well in transition as well as more tweener/combo guard types that don't perfectly fit the traditional mold of PG/SG/SF.

Pork Twain

February 24, 2016, 06:06:55 am #38
Quote from: Pigliophile on February 23, 2016, 04:29:43 pm
After listening to the recruiting report on Bo's show this afternoon I am excited about the team next year. If Kingsley stays, and he should, I think we will be a very solid team next year that will shut up a lot of the haters. I think we will have a good mix of size and speed especially at the guard position.

Okay, you may commence to bashing.
I am very excited about next years class.  I am bothered that it did not happen in either the 2012, 2014 or 2015 classes and while the 2013 class contained two studs, that is all it contained.  Hopefully this is the spark that gets this engine started.
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chiefhawg

February 24, 2016, 06:32:16 am #39
Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 23, 2016, 10:25:12 pm


I will give that "positions" have changed and are no longer the point/shooting guard/center/small forward/power forward. I think that the center position has nearly vanished entirely for instance, but point guards are still clearly distinguishable from shooting guards in nearly all circumstances not involving Seth Curry. Even though the position still exists, there are times when a true point guard is not on the floor, especially in the NBA.

It's very hard to tell the difference between a shooting guard and small forward for sure. What position would people say Lebron plays? He can run the point, man the block, shoot the 3, and guard all "5" spots. What do you call that?


"A basketball player."

nwahogfan1

February 24, 2016, 07:15:28 am #40
Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 23, 2016, 10:18:00 pm
He looks pretty good playing the 4.

A 4 to me can play with his back to the basket at times but mostly is out on the floor capable of shooting the 15 footer and driving the basketball.  I don't see Trey shooting the 15 foot shot and I don't see him driving the basketball.   Maybe next year he will continue to develop his game and will give us some action at the 4 spot.  That needs to be his spot.

spahoopsfan

February 24, 2016, 07:54:05 am #41
Quote from: nwahogfan1 on February 24, 2016, 07:15:28 am
A 4 to me can play with his back to the basket at times but mostly is out on the floor capable of shooting the 15 footer and driving the basketball.  I don't see Trey shooting the 15 foot shot and I don't see him driving the basketball.   Maybe next year he will continue to develop his game and will give us some action at the 4 spot.  That needs to be his spot.

Trey played the 4 last night and had a very good game.  I was more than happy to see us get rid of the 4 guard set and have two big men in the game at the same time.  Our rebounding was much much better and Moses and Trey played very well together.  As long as you have two guys on the floor they don't have to include a true center.

The_Iceman

February 24, 2016, 08:28:28 am #42
Quote from: spahoopsfan on February 24, 2016, 07:54:05 am
Trey played the 4 last night and had a very good game.  I was more than happy to see us get rid of the 4 guard set and have two big men in the game at the same time.  Our rebounding was much much better and Moses and Trey played very well together.  As long as you have two guys on the floor they don't have to include a true center.

Trey isn't what Mike wants consistently at the 4. That's why he added Cook, Thomas, and Bailey to the roster next year. Trey is doing well playing out of position, but his real position is the 5.

Soooie21

February 24, 2016, 10:39:00 am #43
A player can do alot of growing in 1 year...I like what I see...

spahoopsfan

February 24, 2016, 02:04:50 pm #44
Quote from: The_Iceman on February 24, 2016, 08:28:28 am
Trey isn't what Mike wants consistently at the 4. That's why he added Cook, Thomas, and Bailey to the roster next year. Trey is doing well playing out of position, but his real position is the 5.

I agree, but this year there is no Cook, Thomas or Bailey so the question is Play 4 guards, have Miles start or have Thompson play the 4.  My point his Thompson is the best option.  I have said that the whole season.  Playing 4 guards has been a terrible decision especially since one of the guards is Watkins.  We get killed on the boards.  Thompson is not a good defender but neither is Miles or Watkins but at least he can rebound and stick a missed shot back in.

This year will have no forwards small or power.  Miles never developed.  I believe this is his fifth year out of high school and is not a bit better than his first year.  Not having a 6'6 -6'8 player that could defend and rebound plus give just a little offensive and this team would at least me a easy NIT team.

Pork Twain

February 24, 2016, 02:26:15 pm #45
Big Nasty (34) and Stewart (15) were the go-to bigs on that team and Wilson (33) and Darnell (44) were better defenders and when Darnell was on the floor, he was defending the post or looking up at the basket.  On fast breaks, he was often lucky to get to the offensive end before the shot was taken.

Here are highlights of the finals and it was not much different all year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDMH2H18LE8
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DeltaBoy

February 24, 2016, 03:23:00 pm #46
Go Hogs.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

k.c.hawg

February 24, 2016, 03:40:57 pm #47
Call them what you may. I could care less if my 6'8"- 6'10' rim defenders want to play like 4's on the offensive end but they have to be able to occasionally defend a 5 on the defensive end or you need multiple 4's that are capable of defending the rim. Oliver Miller often played 18' from the basket on the offensive end, making entry passes, distributing the ball, knocking down the jumper. But that guy could defend the rim as good as any Razorback ever. I wouldn't call him a true 5 by any means because true 5's don't have his skill, but you can build a team around that guy.
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Boardon Hamsay

February 24, 2016, 08:25:31 pm #48
Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 23, 2016, 10:25:12 pm


I will give that "positions" have changed and are no longer the point/shooting guard/center/small forward/power forward. I think that the center position has nearly vanished entirely for instance, but point guards are still clearly distinguishable from shooting guards in nearly all circumstances not involving Seth Curry. Even though the position still exists, there are times when a true point guard is not on the floor, especially in the NBA.

It's very hard to tell the difference between a shooting guard and small forward for sure. What position would people say Lebron plays? He can run the point, man the block, shoot the 3, and guard all "5" spots. What do you call that?
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Ironhawg

February 24, 2016, 08:45:42 pm #49
Quote from: Pork Twain on February 24, 2016, 02:26:15 pm
Big Nasty (34) and Stewart (15) were the go-to bigs on that team and Wilson (33) and Darnell (44) were better defenders and when Darnell was on the floor, he was defending the post or looking up at the basket.  On fast breaks, he was often lucky to get to the offensive end before the shot was taken.

Here are highlights of the finals and it was not much different all year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDMH2H18LE8

Man it would be awesome to have a Corey Beck or Clint McDaniel on this team.
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