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[Big Hawg 21]

Has Arkansas a 9 seed along with Kentucky.

[hogsanity]

Wow Hogs and Ky as 9 seeds.  What the heck happened to the SEC?

[hogsNbeer]

HICCUP...

[pfrg999]

Then Again...I would take a 9 seed.... But I think Talent wise we are a 3 or 4 seed... Coaching wise... we are at home...

[Pig Power]

 

[hogsanity]

Sorry, gotta have a legit PG to be a 4 seed or higher, and we dont have one of them thar PG's. 

[Hogs4Ever]

Then Again...I would take a 9 seed.... But I think Talent wise we are a 3 or 4 seed... Coaching wise... we are at home...

Agreed.  I will be absolutely shocked if this team makes the Dance.

[rightrev82]

I noticed UAB was an 8. That would make for an interesting first round match-up.

I wounder if Nolan would attend?

[three]

Then Again...I would take a 9 seed.... But I think Talent wise we are a 3 or 4 seed... Coaching wise... we are at home...

Agreed.  I will be absolutely shocked if this team makes the Dance.

Absolutely agreed.  I think we may be a week or two away from a monumental collapse.  This team went from throwing alley-oops off the backboard at the start of the year last year, to being so bad a good Jr. High team could have beaten them.  Sorry, but I see the same thing happening this year.

[Big Hawg 21]

I noticed UAB was an 8. That would make for an interesting first round match-up.

I wounder if Nolan would attend?

You know Nolan would be there. 

[pfrg999]

Sorry, gotta have a legit PG to be a 4 seed or higher, and we dont have one of them thar PG's. 

Sho nuff....

[pfrg999]

Then Again...I would take a 9 seed.... But I think Talent wise we are a 3 or 4 seed... Coaching wise... we are at home...

Agreed.  I will be absolutely shocked if this team makes the Dance.

Absolutely agreed.  I think we may be a week or two away from a monumental collapse.  This team went from throwing alley-oops off the backboard at the start of the year last year, to being so bad a good Jr. High team could have beaten them.  Sorry, but I see the same thing happening this year.

I agree we are a week or two away... But it will either be the Monumental Collapse... or a run... a very good run... But we are on the edge on it...

No Jr. High team will beat them ...we would be up by 18 pts in the first half ... and in the 2nd half....we would... Uhhh... well.....uhhh nevermind

[hogtheball]

Where are you guys getting that Arkansas has the talent for a 3 or 4 seed?  We have ONE, count 'em ONE legitimate NBA prospect on the team right now.  ZERO point guards,  No shooting guards who can hit anywhere near 40% from the three, a defensive center who is a great shot-blocker and bad rebounder,  and some forwards who are good athletes with some promise.   If this team gets in the tournament, we should be proud of them and root for at least one win.   If we get a 9 seed, that means we finished the year strong - I, for one will be pumped if that happens.

[Hums]

My money would be on UAB. Think they would ware us out and take advantage of our weak ball handlers!

[Call Mr. Sow]

Where are you guys getting that Arkansas has the talent for a 3 or 4 seed?  We have ONE, count 'em ONE legitimate NBA prospect on the team right now.  ZERO point guards,  No shooting guards who can hit anywhere near 40% from the three, a defensive center who is a great shot-blocker and bad rebounder,  and some forwards who are good athletes with some promise.   If this team gets in the tournament, we should be proud of them and root for at least one win.   If we get a 9 seed, that means we finished the year strong - I, for one will be pumped if that happens.

Call me crazy, but I believe that Steven Hill will eventually play in the NBA.  He may never be a star, and he isn't there yet, but he'll get minutes. 

[pfrg999]

Where are you guys getting that Arkansas has the talent for a 3 or 4 seed?  We have ONE, count 'em ONE legitimate NBA prospect on the team right now.  ZERO point guards,  No shooting guards who can hit anywhere near 40% from the three, a defensive center who is a great shot-blocker and bad rebounder,  and some forwards who are good athletes with some promise.   If this team gets in the tournament, we should be proud of them and root for at least one win.   If we get a 9 seed, that means we finished the year strong - I, for one will be pumped if that happens.

Uhhh that's the Definition of a Three or four seed...  There is only 64 people or so taken in the draft... But we should be 18-3 ... and 23-6 going 5-3 the rest of the way... a 23-6 is a 4 seed or 5 seed... and some have been a 3 seed...  with that record... That is what I was hanging My hat on... And Brotha... There are Many Many Final Four Teams that have 1 legitimate NBA player on it... 1994 Championship Team... Corliss  only one who stuck

[hogtheball]

No, you're not crazy - If he keeps improving like he has been, he'll get a shot at the bigs.  He's 7' tall and has incredible timing.  He reminds me a lot of Andrew Lang when he was young. Right now, however, he's not an NBA prospect.  I wouldn't advise him to declare himself eligible for the draft just yet.

Remember Jason Jennings at ARknasas.  He got drafted in the second round by Portland after he finished at Arkansas State.  Hill has more potential than he did.

[pfrg999]

No, you're not crazy - If he keeps improving like he has been, he'll get a shot at the bigs.  He's 7' tall and has incredible timing.  He reminds me a lot of Andrew Lang when he was young. Right now, however, he's not an NBA prospect.  I wouldn't advise him to declare himself eligible for the draft just yet.

Remember Jason Jennings at ARknasas.  He got drafted in the second round by Portland after he finished at Arkansas State.  Hill has more potential than he did.

Hill is MUCH MUCH quicker than Jennings.... Better Timing also... Jason was a Bigger Body... Better Rebounder

[hogtheball]

Are you saying that our team is as talented as the 94 team?  First, Corliss was in a league all his own (first-team all-american).  Look at Nolan's career before Corliss came and after he left, and you'll see a very mediocre coach.  Second, Corey Beck and Clint McDaniel were both NBA prospects and both played some NBA ball. Now, give me some more of those many, many final four teams with one NBA prospect.

[hogtheball]

Larry Bird carried the least talented team ever (except him, of course) to the final game. Ronnie certainly isn't a Larry Bird talent-wise.

[hogtheball]

Wisconsin in 2000 wasn't the most talented team ever.  I think Kirk Penney was on the team, but just a freshman at the time.  He might have been the only NBA prospect on that team.  They had several good shooters on the team, though.

[iCalledThatHogBrotha!]

Then Again...I would take a 9 seed.... But I think Talent wise we are a 3 or 4 seed... Coaching wise... we are at home...

lol preach it brotha

[pfrg999]

Are you saying that our team is as talented as the 94 team?  First, Corliss was in a league all his own (first-team all-american).  Look at Nolan's career before Corliss came and after he left, and you'll see a very mediocre coach.  Second, Corey Beck and Clint McDaniel were both NBA prospects and both played some NBA ball. Now, give me some more of those many, many final four teams with one NBA prospect.

Utah... Van Horn.... Stanford...  Beck Played sparingly and was not drafted, Niether was Scotty, Crawford and McDaniel Rode the pine... for a few games...  so they had One... One legitimate NBA prospect... Drafted

[pfrg999]

Wisconsin in 2000 wasn't the most talented team ever.  I think Kirk Penney was on the team, but just a freshman at the time.  He might have been the only NBA prospect on that team.  They had several good shooters on the team, though.

God No we aren't as Talented as the 94 team... But 1 legitimate NBA prospect.... Hill is a Prospect... Townes is a Prospect...Modica is a Prospect.. Thomas Is a Prospect

But you are agruing both for and against your own point

[hogtheball]

Utah?!?! Are you serious?  Andre Miller played with Van Horn - both have had decent careers.  Their center was Michael Doleac. He's still in the league - with Miami, I think.  That's three still in the league.  Would you believe Hanno Mottola was also on the team and played in the NBA? That  wasn't your best choice. I can't even remember a North Carolina team with as many NBA players.

Stanford isn't much better news for you.  First Mark Madsen was center - still in the NBA. The Collins twins, Jason and Jaron are still playing on NBA teams. Tim Young was in the NBA for a year.  That's four from that team who made it.

When I say NBA prospect - that just means a talented player who the NBA scouts are seriously considering drafting.  Scotty and McDaniel were certainly prospects. 

go ahead - find me one more final four team with 1 nba prospect.  You said there were Many, many final four teams with one prospect.  they certainly don't include stanford or utah.  I gave you Indiana State.  Just find one more.

[hogtheball]

Good point, I think Modica is a prospect - he needs some more good games to get a serious look.  I don't think many scouts would agree on Hill just yet - and Townes is certainly not a prospect.   Thomas is getting closer - maybe next year.

[hogtheball]

The current team would be considered very talented if we had one good guard on the court - modica is more of a 3 player most games.  You just don't see top seeds in the tournament without good guards handling the ball.

[hogtheball]

Am I arguing with myself, now?  Dear God, don't show this to my wife.

[three]

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Good point, I think Modica is a prospect - he needs some more good games to get a serious look.  I don't think many scouts would agree on Hill just yet - and Townes is certainly not a prospect.   Thomas is getting closer - maybe next year.

Actually, Townes is a prospect, right now, that according to ESPN.com, and if you want to throw Modica in there as well, that makes three.  Now, you also say Utah had Doleac, Van Horn, Miller, and Mottola all on one team.  Yet, at the time those four were playing together, Miller and Mottola were NOT prospects.  Yet, you'd like to group them all together, but you wont count Hill.  I think we can agree Hill's size and defense make him a future prospect.  That means this team currently has 4 NBA prospects. So, what does that mean?  Well, by your own definition of a 3 or 4 seed, Arkansas then meets thos requirements, at least looking at the talent pool.  Sorry, but all the arguments you've given as to why Arkansas does not have 4 seed talent went out the window when you compared them to that Utah final 4 team.  The ONLY difference between those two teams is talent......at the coaching position.

[pfrg999]

Here just a few Pick out what you need But Just to name a few
Oklahoma,  Miss State, Florida, Villinova, Virginia, Penn, Providence, OK State There will be a few more!

2005

N. Carolina
   

Illinois
   

Michigan St.
   

Louisville
   

St. Louis

2004
   

UConn
   

Ga. Tech
   

Duke
   

Okla. St.
   

San Antonio

2003
   

Syracuse
   

Kansas
   

Texas
   

Marquette
   

New Orleans

2002
   

Maryland
   

Indiana
   

Kansas
   

Oklahoma
   

Atlanta

2001
   

Duke
   

Arizona
   

Maryland
   

Michigan St.
   

Minneapolis

2000
   

Michigan St.
   

Florida
   

Wisconsin
   

North Carolina
   

Indianapolis

1999
   

Connecticut
   

Duke
   

Ohio St.
   

Michigan St.
   

St. Petersburg

1998
   

Kentucky
   

Utah
   

Stanford
   

North Carolina
   

San Antonio

1997
   

Arizona
   

Kentucky
   

North Carolina
   

Minnesota
   

Indianapolis

1996
   

Kentucky
   

Syracuse
   

Umass
   

Miss. St.
   

E. Rutherford

1995
   

UCLA
   

Arkansas
   

Oklahoma St
   

North Carolina
   

Seattle

1994
   

Arkansas
   

Duke
   

Arizona
   

Florida
   

Charlotte

1993
   

North Carolina
   

Michigan
   

Kansas
   

Kentucky
   

New Orleans

1992
   

Duke
   

Michigan
   

Indiana
   

Cincinnati
   

Minneapolis

1991
   

Duke
   

Kansas
   

UNLV
   

North Carolina
   

Indianapolis

1990
   

UNLV
   

Duke
   

Georgia Tech
   

Arkansas
   

Denver

1989
   

Michigan
   

Seton Hall
   

Illinois
   

Duke
   

Seattle

1988
   

Kansas
   

Oklahoma
   

Duke
   

Arizona
   

Kansas City

1987
   

Indiana
   

Syracuse
   

UNLV
   

Providence
   

New Orleans

1986
   

Louisville
   

Duke
   

LSU
   

Kansas
   

Dallas

1985
   

Villanova
   

Georgetown
   

Memphis State
   

St. John's
   

Lexington

1984
   

Georgetown
   

Houston
   

Kentucky
   

Virginia
   

Seattle

1983
   

N.C. State
   

Houston
   

Louisville
   

Georgia
   

Albuquerque

1982
   

North Carolina
   

Georgetown
   

Houston
   

Louisville
   

New Orleans

1981
   

Indiana
   

North Carolina
   

Virginia
   

LSU
   

Philadelphia

1980
   

Louisville
   

UCLA
   

Purdue
   

Iowa
   

Indianapolis

1979
   

Michigan St.
   

Indiana St.
   

DePaul
   

Pennsylvania
   

Salt Lake City

1978
   

Kentucky
   

Duke
   

Arkansas
   

Notre Dame
   

Saint Louis

1977
   

Marquette
   

North Carolina
   

UNLV
   

UNC-Charlotte

[fineswine]

Teams with less talent than this Arkansas team to win it all...1983 N.C. State, 1985 Villanova.

[hogtheball]

I respectfully disagree on the '83 N.C. State assertion.  They weren't as talented as Houston, but they had Thurl Bailey (15 years in the NBA), Sidney Lowe (7 years in the NBA), and Lorenzo Charles (Played for the Hawks 1 season). Derrick Whittenburg never made it in the NBA, but was a third round draft pick by the Suns.  He was head and shoulders above any of our guards.  At what position do the current Razorbacks have more talent than those guys?

[hogtheball]

85 Villanova - not the most talented team to ever win, but you really think we are more talented?  Ed Pinckney was on that team - early first round draft pick who played 11 seasons, most with the Celtics.  Harold Pressley was on the team, played four seasons with Sacramento averaging almost 10 pts. and 5 rebounds before a knee injury.  Also, the McClain bros., Gary and Dwayne were on that team.  Dwayne played a little in the NBA (never drafted).  Gary was drafted and never played.  It's hard to see our team as more talented than those guys right now. 

By the way, the all-NCAA tournament team in '85 included 4 Villanova guys (the most ever from one team)  Harold Jensen, Dwayne McClain, Gary McClain, and Ed Pinckney.  That was in a year when Patrick Ewing, karl Malone, and David Wingate had great tournaments.

[Buff]

yay for us. a 9 seed.  let the huggers rejoice!!  the improvement continues.

[Call Mr. Sow]

Not a hugger, but I will certainly rejoice with a 9 seed.  Because I don't believe there's a chance in hell that we make this tournament.

[mountainhog]

With Hills height and coordination, he will definitely be in the nba and he will stick!  He has tons of raw talent and he has as much talent as any center we have ever had at his sophmore stage .

[hogtheball]

I love Hill.  I wish they would run at least 6 or 7 post-up plays for him every game so he can develop some offensive confidence.  He has the skills, just not the confidence yet.  His game reminds me of Andrew Lang at this point, though he needs a few more pounds to add some presence.  Lang played in the NBA for 12 seasons - I hope the same for Hill. 

He doesn't have as much talent as Joe Kleine, Scott Hastings, or Oliver Miller.  Those guys were all a dominant offensive presences by their sophomore seasons. Kleine and Hastings led their respective Razorback teams in scoring and are both pretty high up on the all-time scoring list.  They were also all much better rebounders than Hill, at this point in their careers.   Again, I see great things in Hill and hope he gets as good as he is capable of getting.

[chiefsfan]

My money would be on UAB. Think they would ware us out and take advantage of our weak ball handlers!

UAB would kill us, or Duke would in the second round, Pick your poision and pick it wisely...