Trey Thomspon Next Year

[hogwood]

Thompson is currently averaging 3.4ppg/4.5rpg/1.4apg in his sophomore year.

Kingsley only averaged 3.6ppg/2.5rpg/0.3apg in his sophomore year.

Anyone think Thompson could have a huge jump in production like Kingsley has had his junior year? Mike has always been a big fan of Trey. Maybe next year he will show us. I also remember Thompson was at one point a top 100 player in his senior class, but fell out later in the year. Sometimes I get glimpses of how extremely athletic he is. Kind of like the glimpses I got of Kingsley last year. If Thompson can give us 10ppg/7rpg/2apg that would be huge for this team next year.

[hawginbigd1]

IMO TT is not very similar to MK of last year, TT does not have the shooting touch that MK has, and MK didn't need much if any work on his body. TT has improved his body, but needs more work.

[chiefhawg]

Trey is the best passing big man since Oliver Miller.

[The_Iceman]

Love Trey's passing and his hard work on rebounding and blocking shots. However, I don't think he has the ceiling Kingsley does.

[jjdlc]

Love Trey's passing and his hard work on rebounding and blocking shots. However, I don't think he has the ceiling Kingsley does.

Agreed.  I do think he could potentially make a big jump, but no where near what Kingsley has done.

[Amityvillehogger]

Love Trey's passing and his hard work on rebounding and blocking shots. However, I don't think he has the ceiling Kingsley does.

That ceiling didn't look as high last year for Kingsley

[hawginbigd1]

That ceiling didn't look as high last year for Kingsley

IMO his ceiling was only lower because of BB IQ, still his limiting factor, the physical tools are mostly all there.

[Danny J]

That ceiling didn't look as high last year for Kingsley

Correct....I sure didn't see it. I thought he had the ability to be solid on D and get garbage buckets. I don't remember too many predicting 16 and 9. His numbers are equal to portis. I think Trey could make a jump but nothing like what Kingsley has done. What we are seeing is one of the biggest improvement year over year in the last 30 years for the Hogs.

[hawginbigd1]

Correct....I sure didn't see it. I thought he had the ability to be solid on D and get garbage buckets. I don't remember too many predicting 16 and 9. His numbers are equal to portis. I think Trey could make a jump but nothing like what Kingsley has done. What we are seeing is one of the biggest improvement year over year in the last 30 years for the Hogs.

It was there to see, if you look at his numbers per minute played. I didn't think 16 or 17 but I believed he would be toward the top of the scoring charts. IMO his improvement on defense and avoiding fouls is the biggest area he has improved. Honestly though he is still sub par at the back of the press, still doesn't understand how to hedge and move to force a shot other than a layup.

[Hawg Red]

Trey just needs to come out and not be afraid to look for some scoring opportunities for himself when has the ball away from the basketball. As it stands now, he'll catch an alley-oop or lay it up/dunk on the catch but nothing else. I think he has maybe attempted 3 jumpers all year. I feel like he has a better touch than he's shown, even at the FT line. Just doesn't look comfortable. That's what I'm looking for from him next year.

[spahoopsfan]

Correct....I sure didn't see it. I thought he had the ability to be solid on D and get garbage buckets. I don't remember too many predicting 16 and 9. His numbers are equal to portis. I think Trey could make a jump but nothing like what Kingsley has done. What we are seeing is one of the biggest improvement year over year in the last 30 years for the Hogs.

I don't agree it was obviously Kingsley was more athletic than Portis. He didn't play very much so it is a little difficult to improve if you don't play more than a couple of minutes at a time.  Thompson doesn't have the ability Kingsley does.  He is not a quick jumper nor near as quick as he needs to be, however he seems to be a smart player and will learn how to get the most out of the ability he does have.
The key to next year is Bailey, Thomas and Cook.  I believe Macon has the potential to replace Bell, even though he has been my favorite player for the past four years, Barfield will replace Durham and the three forwards will make the difference of what is lacking this year.  If we had one or two athletic 6-8 guys this year we would easily be in the top 25.

[labb]

The catch of the full court pass and the lay up showed me something....Watch his free throw shot. It is good. He will make a big jump next season. JMO

[ErieHog]

That ceiling didn't look as high last year for Kingsley

What?   It has always looked sky high-- but the things that are essential in a mature game were absent.   That's why Kingsley has so often flashed, without delivering before this year.

Trey-- you don't see anything like the same flashes.  He has core competencies that will improve, but there's not a tantalizing element to his game that just needs reps and refinement. 

If he can become an 8PPG scorer next year, we should be tickled.  Its just not his game right now.

[Iamjacksleftnutt]

Trey is the best passing big man since Oliver Miller.

Man you took the words right out of my mouth !!!! We have been missing that for a long long time. Don't underestimate Mikes ability to develop this young man.

[RaisinHog]

I think he will develop into a double double kind of guy by his senior year .. When his playing time increases

[Cinco de Hogo]

I believed before the season started that how good we could be rested on the shoulders of Trey Thompson.  I have no connection to TT but I felt the team needed a decent force from the position he can play for us to be successful.  I still feel that way.  Miles jst doesn't cut it and the betterTT gets and the more playing time he gets the better we will be.  At all other positions the rotations is fine except the KM/TT position.  TT should command the vast majority of playing time for the rest of the season.  If it doesn't make a huge difference this year it sure will next year.

[choppedporkextrasauce]

Trey is the best passing big man since Oliver Miller.

Death, taxes, and this

[sadhogfan]

Trey is the best passing big man since Oliver Miller.

Yeah, passing is Trey's elite skill...he is a solid rebounder and shot blocker as well. I think he could be a really nice player for us next year that fills the box score without any eye-popping stats.

[batmanfan]

Sure would be nice to have him another 3 years instead of 2.  We'll end up kicking ourselves for not red shirting him last year and wasting his freshman year.

[Amityvillehogger]

What?   It has always looked sky high-- but the things that are essential in a mature game were absent.   That's why Kingsley has so often flashed, without delivering before this year.

Trey-- you don't see anything like the same flashes.  He has core competencies that will improve, but there's not a tantalizing element to his game that just needs reps and refinement. 

If he can become an 8PPG scorer next year, we should be tickled.  Its just not his game right now.

We weren't watching the same Kingsley.

[swinesation]

Anybody with eyes could see Kingsley has always had freakish athleticism for a man his size.

[azhog10]

What?   It has always looked sky high-- but the things that are essential in a mature game were absent.   That's why Kingsley has so often flashed, without delivering before this year.

Trey-- you don't see anything like the same flashes.  He has core competencies that will improve, but there's not a tantalizing element to his game that just needs reps and refinement. 

If he can become an 8PPG scorer next year, we should be tickled.  Its just not his game right now.

Trey had one shot the other night. It was a mid range jumper he caught and didn't think twice about. His stroke looked nice and I think if his confidence grows with that, he can be more than an 8 ppg type of guy.

[Jonteviosk]

TT is a redshirt fresh this yr

[ErieHog]

Trey had one shot the other night. It was a mid range jumper he caught and didn't think twice about. His stroke looked nice and I think if his confidence grows with that, he can be more than an 8 ppg type of guy.

He's going to have to work a ton to be a double digit scorer, even if he gets more confidence in spot up shots.     He's not a developed offensive player, and that part of his game is going to take a couple of years of work.

[ErieHog]

We weren't watching the same Kingsley.

Basketball is relatively easy to project, developmentally, compared to football.

Does the player have athleticism?  Do they run the court?  Are their feet shuffling or moving with purpose? When they make mistakes, is it from being in the wrong place, being too physical, or overreacting?

So much of the game can be taught, but the base has to be there to develop.  With Kingsley, it has always been evident, if totally unpolished.    Its why he was, by our program's standards, one of the higher ranked prospects to choose to become a Hog in a long while.

Now, developmental prospects don't always develop,  but Kingsley is a guy who has always had a sky-high ceiling, because at his floor it was very evident he had the tools to play very well at this level, and possibly into the next.

[The_Iceman]

TT is a redshirt fresh this yr

It honestly wouldn't take you 5 seconds on google to find out that you were wrong.

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/roster/trey-thompson/

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

TT is a redshirt fresh this yr

No he isn't. MA is in record he doesn't Believe in Redshirting.

[BRHogfan]

Basketball is relatively easy to project, developmentally, compared to football.

Does the player have athleticism?  Do they run the court?  Are their feet shuffling or moving with purpose? When they make mistakes, is it from being in the wrong place, being too physical, or overreacting?

So much of the game can be taught, but the base has to be there to develop.  With Kingsley, it has always been evident, if totally unpolished.    Its why he was, by our program's standards, one of the higher ranked prospects to choose to become a Hog in a long while.

Now, developmental prospects don't always develop,  but Kingsley is a guy who has always had a sky-high ceiling, because at his floor it was very evident he had the tools to play very well at this level, and possibly into the next.

To add to that, Kingsley only played like 2 or 3 years before coming to Arkansas.  He didn't have moves around the basket, and those have developed.  He also was a magnet for fouls, and he's really improved that part of his game as well. 

[HoopS]

The catch of the full court pass and the lay up showed me something....Watch his free throw shot. It is good. He will make a big jump next season. JMO

[ShadowHawg]

Trey is playing his role this year. He is on the floor with Kingsley about half the times he is in the game and works the high low pass very well.

Thompson doesn't force his offense because there are better options like Kingsley on the floor so he doesn't need to.

He has shown a willingness to work hard. He has the raw ability to be a double digit scorer and the hustle to get buckets on the offensive glass.

He is only going to get better.

[The_Iceman]

I could see by next year or his senior year, we will run our offense through Trey at the high post the way Sacramento used to do with Chris Webber.

[BRHogfan]

I could see by next year or his senior year, we will run our offense through Trey at the high post the way Sacramento used to do with Chris Webber.

Some of the best players that are doing that in the league now have a bit of height on Trey (Marc Gasol and Joakim Noah).  He would have to be able to put the ball on the floor and be able to drive from there, which he currently hasn't shown the ability to do.

Still, I think Trey might be able to do some special things if he continues to develop.  He's having a great SEC season.

[HogBreath]

That ceiling didn't look as high last year for Kingsley

So many have forgot or never knew it, but CMA said in year presser after Moses' freshmen year, that per minutes played, Kingsley was our most productive player. 

Not sure what happened to him last year, but he never did much.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

No he isn't. MA is in record he doesn't Believe in Redshirting.

Actually they were trying to make last year a redshirt year for him this summer.

[Hognspace]

That ceiling didn't look as high last year for Kingsley

Disagree he looked very productive last year playing behind a professional player. At times he looked every bit as good as Bobby P without the experience. 

[labb]

Disagree he looked very productive last year playing behind a professional player. At times he looked every bit as good as Bobby P without the experience. 

Dang, I guess I wasn't watching the same Moses as some were. What I saw was a kid that could run and jump but didn't have a clue about the game of basketball.He was mostly in the wrong position to play defense on his man. He had no foot work, He was generally lost on the court. He had very little basketball knowledge or skills. He has come further in one year than any player I have ever seen. 

[azhog10]

Dang, I guess I wasn't watching the same Moses as some were. What I saw was a kid that could run and jump but didn't have a clue about the game of basketball.He was mostly in the wrong position to play defense on his man. He had no foot work, He was generally lost on the court. He had very little basketball knowledge or skills. He has come further in one year than any player I have ever seen.

[ErieHog]

Dang, I guess I wasn't watching the same Moses as some were. What I saw was a kid that could run and jump but didn't have a clue about the game of basketball.He was mostly in the wrong position to play defense on his man. He had no foot work, He was generally lost on the court. He had very little basketball knowledge or skills. He has come further in one year than any player I have ever seen. 

He had every single projectable you look for in a developmental athlete. 

You can't teach athleticism;  you can refine skill, and teach basketball.

[azhog10]

He had every single projectable you look for in a developmental athlete. 

You can't teach athleticism;  you can refine skill, and teach basketball.

Developmental athletes have two ways they can go and there's a lot of them in college basketball.

[ErieHog]

Developmental athletes have two ways they can go and there's a lot of them in college basketball.

Not with anywhere near as many as Kingsley has.  And he had some proficiency for displaying them in limited moments, despite not knowing the system all that well--    while no one may have expected this leap, this soon, it wasn't out of the question at any point that he would have a major breakthrough season, later, if not sooner.

[bphi11ips]

He had every single projectable you look for in a developmental athlete. 

You can't teach athleticism;  you can refine skill, and teach basketball.

Caca.

No one saw 2016 coming for Moses Kingsley.  Arkansas has had athletes for years who couldn't hit the backboard from the free throw line.  Kingsley showed some raw offensive skills as early as Hawaii in 2015, but what he developed during the off season was learned, not taught.  You can't teach his kind of athleticism, nor can you teach an athlete to shoot a basketball.  You can demonstrate technique, but that's it.  The rest comes from repetition and confidence.  Kingsley is a player.  Period.  He had a few good offers, but so have many of Arkansas' s signees since Anderson arrived.  He was certainly not in the same demand as some of the other players he has played with at Arkansas.

Trey Thompson is solid. He doesn't have Kingsley's genes, but he is learning the high post.  His shot will improve.  He needs to work on free throws.  He may not average double digits next year, but with his vision in the high post and the drop-step Kingsley has developed in the low post, next year could pretty special with the offensive weapons Arkansas will have at guard.  If that gels before the SEC tournament and Bell and Hannahs get hot, the Hogs could win it.

[ErieHog]

Caca.

No one saw 2016 coming for Moses Kingsley.  Arkansas has had athletes for years who couldn't hit the backboard from the free throw line.  Kingsley showed some raw offensive skills as early as Hawaii in 2015, but what he developed during the off season was learned, not taught.  You can't teach his kind of athleticism, nor can you teach an athlete to shoot a basketball.  You can demonstrate technique, but that's it.  The rest comes from repetition and confidence.  Kingsley is a player.  Period.  He had a few good offers, but so have many of Arkansas' s signees since Anderson arrived.  He was certainly not in the same demand as some of the other players he has played with at Arkansas.

Trey Thompson is solid. He doesn't have Kingsley's genes, but he is learning the high post.  His shot will improve.  He needs to work on free throws.  He may not average double digits next year, but with his vision in the high post and the drop-step Kingsley has developed in the low post, next year could pretty special with the offensive weapons Arkansas will have at guard.  If that gels before the SEC tournament and Bell and Hannahs get hot, the Hogs could win it.

You can most certainly teach shooting; that's why the Spurs and other franchised pay shooting coaches.

And Mike Anderson *certainly* saw it;  he was defending Kingsley as having immense upside when
he couldn't find a spot on the floor with a map, as a freshman.

Oh-- and among his offers-  Louisville and Florida-- and he  was a consensus Top 50 recruit nationally

Peddle that silly elsewhere.

[BRHogfan]

Caca.

No one saw 2016 coming for Moses Kingsley.  Arkansas has had athletes for years who couldn't hit the backboard from the free throw line.  Kingsley showed some raw offensive skills as early as Hawaii in 2015, but what he developed during the off season was learned, not taught.  You can't teach his kind of athleticism, nor can you teach an athlete to shoot a basketball.  You can demonstrate technique, but that's it.  The rest comes from repetition and confidence.  Kingsley is a player.  Period.  He had a few good offers, but so have many of Arkansas' s signees since Anderson arrived.  He was certainly not in the same demand as some of the other players he has played with at Arkansas.

Trey Thompson is solid. He doesn't have Kingsley's genes, but he is learning the high post.  His shot will improve.  He needs to work on free throws.  He may not average double digits next year, but with his vision in the high post and the drop-step Kingsley has developed in the low post, next year could pretty special with the offensive weapons Arkansas will have at guard.  If that gels before the SEC tournament and Bell and Hannahs get hot, the Hogs could win it.

You can teach shooting. Every year since Mike has been here, the FG shooting% has increased overall for the team. 

[azhog10]

Not with anywhere near as many as Kingsley has.  And he had some proficiency for displaying them in limited moments, despite not knowing the system all that well--    while no one may have expected this leap, this soon, it wasn't out of the question at any point that he would have a major breakthrough season, later, if not sooner.

I don't disagree that he showed flashes at times. I'm just saying it's not as set in stone as some are making it out to be. You see a lot of kids that show flashes and you keep waiting and waiting and waiting for it to come together and it never does. For Kingsley it did and we are seeing that this year. But it was never a forgone conclusion.

[hei5manhog]

I really hope Moses comes back. I understood qualls and BP leaving, their ceilings had probably been reached as far as prospects in the nba/professionally. I think Kingsley might be a national name if he comes back and that will elevate his stock higher than leaving early on potential could. Buddy Hield from this year is an example

[bphi11ips]

You can most certainly teach shooting; that's why the Spurs and other franchised pay shooting coaches.

And Mike Anderson *certainly* saw it;  he was defending Kingsley as having immense upside when
he couldn't find a spot on the floor with a map, as a freshman.

Oh-- and among his offers-  Louisville and Florida-- and he  was a consensus Top 50 recruit nationally

Peddle that silly elsewhere.

You're the one peddling here, and it's the same message you've peddled here for years - Arkansas is a second rate program.  It's no more true now than it was when you were touting the mighty perennial eastern football power Cincinnati.

The primary reason I posted in this thread was because this caught my eye from your reply in #24 above:  "With Kingsley, it has always been evident, if totally unpolished.    Its why he was, by our program's standards, one of the higher ranked prospects to choose to become a Hog in a long while."  Why the "long while"?  Arkansas has signed 7 of ESPN's Top 100 in the last five years.  Kingsley was one.  They are:

2011:

B.J. Young - 16
Ky Madden - 36
Hunter Mickelson - 55

2013:

Bobby Portis - 16
Moses Kingsley - 43

2014:

Anton Beard - 90

2015:

Jimmy Whitt - 77

In addition, 3 of 247's top 5 jucos, all four stars, have signed for 2016:

Jaylen Barford - 1
Daryl Macon - 4
Arlando Cook - 5
 
Of the ten signees mentioned above, two were five stars - Young and Portis, and the rest were 4 stars. 

So here's the deal.  Aren't you a mod?  Stop the realist routine.  You're wrong anyway.  Arkansas is still a top basketball program.  Like football, it has suffered through a string of mediocre coaches post-Sutton/Richardson, two Hall of Famers.  Mike Anderson may not be able to return the Razorbacks to the glory days, but he is trying.  We still attract top recruits, and yes, Kingsley is one of them, but only one of ten 4 stars or better in the last 5 years.

Now - with respect to teaching shooting, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.  If you could, Richardson would have had some great teams in the late 90's, when his roster was full of superior athletes with no offensive skills. For whatever reason, Kingsley has improved immensely as an offensive player this year.  There's no way anyone could reasonably have predicted that he would average 16.4 points per game at this point after averaging 3.6 last year.  His field goal percentage has gone from 48.5% to 56.3%, and after a torrid start at the free throw line, he has gone from 62.3% to 68.8%.  He seems to have gotten the quicks a bit at the line lately, but I'm sure the 75% range we saw earlier in the season will return when his rhythm returns.

Until 2015-16, Kingsley was thought of as more Willie Caulie-Stein than Bobby Portis.  labb and others above are correct.  Kingsley has improved offensively more in one year than any Razorback I can recall, and I go back to Martin Terry's 47 points against SMU.  Did someone suddenly teach Kingsley to shoot, and more importantly, to play with his back to the basket?  Of course he's received a lot of coaching, but it appears he has also spent countless hours in the gym.  He simply looks like a different basketball player. 

Sometimes it's okay to credit the player himself with improvement, and to credit posters as well for astute observations.  And you don't need to run down a quickly improving underclassman or the program itself trying to counter the astute posters.   

[BRHogfan]

You're the one peddling here, and it's the same message you've peddled here for years - Arkansas is a second rate program.  It's no more true now than it was when you were touting the mighty perennial eastern football power Cincinnati.

The primary reason I posted in this thread was because this caught my eye from your reply in #24 above:  "With Kingsley, it has always been evident, if totally unpolished.    Its why he was, by our program's standards, one of the higher ranked prospects to choose to become a Hog in a long while."  Why the "long while"?  Arkansas has signed 7 of ESPN's Top 100 in the last five years.  Kingsley was one.  They are:

2011:

B.J. Young - 16
Ky Madden - 36
Hunter Mickelson - 55

2013:

Bobby Portis - 16
Moses Kingsley - 43

2014:

Anton Beard - 90

2015:

Jimmy Whitt - 77

In addition, 3 of 247's top 5 jucos, all four stars, have signed for 2016:

Jaylen Barford - 1
Daryl Macon - 4
Arlando Cook - 5
 
Of the ten signees mentioned above, two were five stars - Young and Portis, and the rest were 4 stars. 

So here's the deal.  Aren't you a mod?  Stop the realist routine.  You're wrong anyway.  Arkansas is still a top basketball program.  Like football, it has suffered through a string of mediocre coaches post-Sutton/Richardson, two Hall of Famers.  Mike Anderson may not be able to return the Razorbacks to the glory days, but he is trying.  We still attract top recruits, and yes, Kingsley is one of them, but only one of ten 4 stars or better in the last 5 years.

Now - with respect to teaching shooting, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.  If you could, Richardson would have had some great teams in the late 90's, when his roster was full of superior athletes with no offensive skills. For whatever reason, Kingsley has improved immensely as an offensive player this year.  There's no way anyone could reasonably have predicted that he would average 16.4 points per game at this point after averaging 3.6 last year.  His field goal percentage has gone from 48.5% to 56.3%, and after a torrid start at the free throw line, he has gone from 62.3% to 68.8%.  He seems to have gotten the quicks a bit at the line lately, but I'm sure the 75% range we saw earlier in the season will return when his rhythm returns.

Until 2015-16, Kingsley was thought of as more Willie Caulie-Stein than Bobby Portis.  labb and others above are correct.  Kingsley has improved offensively more in one year than any Razorback I can recall, and I go back to Martin Terry's 47 points against SMU.  Did someone suddenly teach Kingsley to shoot, and more importantly, to play with his back to the basket?  Of course he's received a lot of coaching, but it appears he has also spent countless hours in the gym.  He simply looks like a different basketball player. 

Sometimes it's okay to credit the player himself with improvement, and to credit posters as well for astute observations.  And you don't need to run down a quickly improving underclassman or the program itself trying to counter the astute posters.

What are you guys actually arguing about?

[HoopS]

One point.

I still think Moses rushes his FT's. He likes to look down then quickly look up and fire it. Been doing that all season. If he would slow down just a touch, he'd continue to improve.

As for improving. All of the coaching in the world won't help if you don't work at it. And all the work at it won't help if you're doing it fundamentally flawed.

I think we have some coaches on campus right now who can help one with shooting if they want to work at it.

Whitt should be first in line. He's got serious upside. But not unless he polishes his shot.

[bphi11ips]

What are you guys actually arguing about?

1.  Razorbacks "program standards".
2.  The forseeability of Kingsley's 12.8 point increase in scoring average.
3.  The ability to teach any great athlete to shoot a basketball.
4.  Trey Thompson's potential.

[ErieHog]

You're the one peddling here, and it's the same message you've peddled here for years - Arkansas is a second rate program.  It's no more true now than it was when you were touting the mighty perennial eastern football power Cincinnati.

The primary reason I posted in this thread was because this caught my eye from your reply in #24 above:  "With Kingsley, it has always been evident, if totally unpolished.    Its why he was, by our program's standards, one of the higher ranked prospects to choose to become a Hog in a long while."  Why the "long while"?  Arkansas has signed 7 of ESPN's Top 100 in the last five years.  Kingsley was one.  They are:

2011:

B.J. Young - 16
Ky Madden - 36
Hunter Mickelson - 55

2013:

Bobby Portis - 16
Moses Kingsley - 43

2014:

Anton Beard - 90

2015:

Jimmy Whitt - 77

In addition, 3 of 247's top 5 jucos, all four stars, have signed for 2016:

Jaylen Barford - 1
Daryl Macon - 4
Arlando Cook - 5
 
Of the ten signees mentioned above, two were five stars - Young and Portis, and the rest were 4 stars. 

So here's the deal.  Aren't you a mod?  Stop the realist routine.  You're wrong anyway.  Arkansas is still a top basketball program.  Like football, it has suffered through a string of mediocre coaches post-Sutton/Richardson, two Hall of Famers.  Mike Anderson may not be able to return the Razorbacks to the glory days, but he is trying.  We still attract top recruits, and yes, Kingsley is one of them, but only one of ten 4 stars or better in the last 5 years.

Now - with respect to teaching shooting, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.  If you could, Richardson would have had some great teams in the late 90's, when his roster was full of superior athletes with no offensive skills. For whatever reason, Kingsley has improved immensely as an offensive player this year.  There's no way anyone could reasonably have predicted that he would average 16.4 points per game at this point after averaging 3.6 last year.  His field goal percentage has gone from 48.5% to 56.3%, and after a torrid start at the free throw line, he has gone from 62.3% to 68.8%.  He seems to have gotten the quicks a bit at the line lately, but I'm sure the 75% range we saw earlier in the season will return when his rhythm returns.

Until 2015-16, Kingsley was thought of as more Willie Caulie-Stein than Bobby Portis.  labb and others above are correct.  Kingsley has improved offensively more in one year than any Razorback I can recall, and I go back to Martin Terry's 47 points against SMU.  Did someone suddenly teach Kingsley to shoot, and more importantly, to play with his back to the basket?  Of course he's received a lot of coaching, but it appears he has also spent countless hours in the gym.  He simply looks like a different basketball player. 

Sometimes it's okay to credit the player himself with improvement, and to credit posters as well for astute observations.  And you don't need to run down a quickly improving underclassman or the program itself trying to counter the astute posters.   

I'm peddling the truth;  even by your own standards, using your preferred numbes  he's one of the Top 4 recruits of the Anderson Era.

We are a mid-tier program.  You are what you do.   We have a long climb back up the hill to relevance.

You want to sugar coat it and reassure yourself we're just a year away?   You'll get nothing but dissapointment.

And yes, you teach how to post up, how to translate athletic ability and raw strength into position, and good feet into good footwork.

There's nothing astute in saying 'Woah, this guy who was a consensus Top 50 recruit is playing like a Top 50 recruit would!'      Its nice--  but it isn't like it is a jaw dropping shock.