Who developed Kingsley?

[elksnort]

My wife, a former basketball player asked, "Who worked with Kingsley in the off season?"

Anybody really know?

[daprospecta]

His skills are not new, just honed.  As a fan base, we tend to forget that Moses would show flashes of his current play last year.  I think his training combined with his experience has created the player he is now.

[Cinco de Hogo]

I don't know the answer to your question but I do know Moses has move's Bobby Portis never had.  I don't know if he is just that much more athletic or if someone worked with him. 

[elksnort]

When they flashed the numbers compared to Portis last year I was surprised.

This is a very interesting Arkansas Razorback basketball team. I'm enjoying it

[daprospecta]

I don't know the answer to your question but I do know Moses has move's Bobby Portis never had.  I don't know if he is just that much more athletic or if someone worked with him. 

Moses is definitely more nimble than BP.  Most likely stemming from Moses playing soccer growing up.  I believe he is a 2nd rounder that could work his way into the 1st round at a camp.  If he comes back next year and continues to play well, he can be a lottery pick next year.

[elksnort]

Again, who has worked with him on his low post moves?

[alohawg]

Kingsley has great coordination for his size and maybe the quickest hands on the team. That steal he had late, case in point.

[HogsBalls]

I believe Kingsley is a product of watching Portis work so hard last year. He learned how to work hard to improve his craft working against him every day. You're looking at an NBA center now.

[TomBigBeeHog]

Could it be the same person who is developing Trey?

[AWHAWG]

Mike Anderson and the coaching staff with the help of having a practice facility for the player to put in extra time.

[elksnort]

Could it be the same person who is developing Trey?

ok, good point. treys passing is darn good.

Who is individually wworking with them?

[swineology]

My wife, a former basketball player asked, "Who worked with Kingsley in the off season?"

Anybody really know?

Had nothing to do with CMA and the new BB practice facility

[chiefhawg]

My wife, a former basketball player asked, "Who worked with Kingsley in the off season?"

Anybody really know?

Melvin Watkins is the big man specialist.

[Danny J]

Probably from watching Self at KU. ...

[Hou-Hog]

Had nothing to do with CMA and the new BB practice facility

i think it is ridiculous to say CMA did not have a hand in his improvement.  The facility I agree with...

[elksnort]

Had nothing to do with CMA and the new BB practice facility

I don't know whether you're serious or not but I am and I'm trying to ask a simple question

[elksnort]

Melvin Watkins is the big man specialist.

thank you whether you are right or wrong I appreciate your direct answer

[Hog Solo]

I believe it was King Mosesly

[Dr. Starcs]

Ray Biggers

[Hoggish1]

Moses is definitely more nimble than BP.  Most likely stemming from Moses playing soccer growing up.  I believe he is a 2nd rounder that could work his way into the 1st round at a camp.  If he comes back next year and continues to play well, he can be a lottery pick next year.

If he comes back next year he'll be a first rounder!

[Swinesong1]

Off season Nike Big Man Camp.  Portis went the year before as well.  Qualls and Portis both went to the LeBron James skills camp.  I'm not sure if Moses went to the LeBron Camp, but he has been to an off season skills camp every year.  The Pete Newell big man camp used to be the premiere big man camp, and was credited with guys making huge draft leaps in the past. Not to start a debate, but that has more to do with his fundamentals, and 'skill' moves improving than anything he's getting in practice.  Major college coaches don't spend a lot of time on fundamentals.  That's why they send them in the first place.

Are you sure about Kingsley?  First I've heard of him camping.

[TomBigBeeHog]

Are you sure about Kingsley?  First I've heard of him camping.

Maybe he read Bobby's notes he jotted down at camp. Don't think Moses was invited.

[elksnort]

The bottom line is that Moses Kingsley has progressed greatly and this is a fun team to watch

[Swinesong1]

Pretty sure.  He camped somewhere, which is not at all unusual.  It's not like there were 30 other big men better than him going into the season.

I think you're making this up.

[Swinesong1]

I'm not, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I did. 

[lynbug]

The bottom line is that Moses Kingsley has progressed greatly and this is a fun team to watch

I just responded to another post that we should have assistant coaching vacancies at the end of the year.  But, you're right.  Who would have ever expected this group of former subs to have come together as well as they have.  The coaching staff must receive some credit for that.

[TomBigBeeHog]

I just responded to another post that we should have assistant coaching vacancies at the end of the year.  But, you're right.  Who would have ever expected this group of former subs to have come together as well as they have.  The coaching staff must receive some credit for that.

and then we must fire them.

[farmhawg]

Amazing the lack of respect MA gets from some of you......

[TomBigBeeHog]

This battle has spilled over into two threads. You guys need to meet at the Alma Sonic. 

[azhog10]

I think you're making this up.

He is. Kingsley did not attend the Nike Big Man camp.

[azhog10]

Amazing the lack of respect MA gets from some of you......

You are just now being amazed by this?

[ShadowHawg]

It is clear that this staff developed Kingsley. They developed Portis, Kingsley, and Thompson is vastly improved as well. Anyone notice Qualls improvement? How about Bell and Durham?

The development question is only alive in the mind of haters at this point.

[Hogimus Prime]

Probably several factors. MA and staff have done a good job of developing players. Kingsley has talent and is a good athlete. Kingsley went up against Portis for two years on the Hill. Pretty sure Portis worked with Kingsley himself.

[TomBigBeeHog]

CMA has the volleyball coach come and give a few pointers on how to develop post players 

[swinesation]

When they were freshmen, I posted somewhere on hogville that I thought Kingsley had more potential than Portis. Then I regretted posting it. Now I'm thinking I'm a genius.

[Ham Sandwich]

Had nothing to do with CMA and the new BB practice facility

Do you actually believe this? How dumb do you have to be to believe the head coach had nothing to do with it. Dumbass

[chiefhawg]

Pretty sure.  He camped somewhere, which is not at all unusual.  It's not like there were 30 other big men better than him going into the season. 

He didn't improve because of Melvin Watkins.

BS. you don't know what you are talking about.

[elksnort]

It's a shame some of you have to turn this thread into an argument.  Of course I should not be surprised.
My original post is an honest and serious question.
I don't recall seeing a big man improve so much from one year to another as Kingsley has done.

[Swinesong1]

It's a shame some of you have to turn this thread into an argument.  Of course I should not be surprised.
My original post is an honest and serious question.
I don't recall seeing a big man improve so much from one year to another as Kingsley has done.

My answer would be twofold:  the staff and Moses himself.  I mean, not hard to deduce.

[elksnort]

My answer would be twofold:  the staff and Moses himself.  I mean, not hard to deduce.

I guess not, but I was just curious of what particular individual had worked with him. When is the last time you've seen a Razorback big man improve from one season to another so greatly?
I certainly hope he returns next season.

[Swinesong1]

I guess not, but I was just curious of what particular individual had worked with him. When is the last time you've seen a Razorback big man improve from one season to another so greatly?
I certainly hope he returns next season.

He has made a great leap.  The signs were there in flashes last year.   It just seems to be coming together.  One thing that impressed me yesterday...there was a possession where he had posted up but was unable to get the ball due to a bad angle.  He actually was telling the guards to swing the ball to the opposite side to get a better angle for the entry pass.  That, and his uncanny ability to steal the ball from smaller players in open space.

[jdlew]

How about sending someone up there to overhaul Jimmy Whitt's shot....for a guard it's the worst I have ever seen....they thought he was going to be a scorer this season...don't see how you are coached your whole life and coaches not help this kid with his shot....

[Swinesong1]

How about sending someone up there to overhaul Jimmy Whitt's shot....for a guard it's the worst I have ever seen....they thought he was going to be a scorer this season...don't see how you are coached your whole life and coaches not help this kid with his shot....

You picked the absolute worst time to post this.  Lol

[phadedhawg]

He's got some moves that really shock me and he's got a sweet touch on his shot.  Portis did a lot of great things but Moses might be better.   I never thought that possible

[bvillepig]

Moses had a couple of new moves in the Tennessee game last night. He might have learned them during the summer in a camp but why wait till now to use them.

Pretty sure someone is working with him,Thompson and Kouassi right now. Since Watkins is the big man specialist I would agree with others that it is him.

[rkjones]

It's a shame some of you have to turn this thread into an argument.  Of course I should not be surprised.
My original post is an honest and serious question.
I don't recall seeing a big man improve so much from one year to another as Kingsley has done.

Delvon Johnson had an impressive spike from Junior to Senior year. 

[RaisinHog]

How about sending someone up there to overhaul Jimmy Whitt's shot....for a guard it's the worst I have ever seen....they thought he was going to be a scorer this season...don't see how you are coached your whole life and coaches not help this kid with his shot....
[/quote)

I thought it looked a lil better last night .. And I heard a commentator say he had been  putting in countless hours working on it .. Is it still kinda back behind his head to much ? Yes but hell at least it went in

[elksnort]

Delvon Johnson had an impressive spike from Junior to Senior year. 

Ha! I forgot all about him. He did indeed improve greatly.

[jchill]

When they flashed the numbers compared to Portis last year I was surprised.

This is a very interesting Arkansas Razorback basketball team. I'm enjoying it

After I saw the numbers, it pretty much indicates that it will be a slim chance of Moses returning next season. If he does return and the JUCO players are as advertised, then we are a definitely one of the favorites to win the SEC.

[Woo Pig25]

Moses has always been a hard worker, but the staff as a collective group have helped develop him and spend extra time with Moses. From CMA, Watkins, Cleveland, Zimmerman, Mayberry, GA's and the strength coaches it has been a collective group effort to help in players getting better. Moses did not go to any camps this summer. For some of you who do not know, college basketball coaches have 2 hours per week with the players in on court instruction in the summer. This staff takes pride in the summers in developing players and watching the players get better on a daily basis.