Michigan cancels Arkansas series to renew Notre DAME rivalry

[gawntrail]

Set up a home and home with Miami.

Exactly.  We need a program in a recruiting hot bed.  Good TV buzz, and lots of 'possibilities'.

Miami
Houston
Baylor
SMU
Penn State
Pitt
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina
Arizona State
UCLA
San Diego State
UNLV
Colorado
To name some off top of my head...

[Inhogswetrust]

Exactly.  We need a program in a recruiting hot bed.  Good TV buzz, and lots of 'possibilities'.

Miami
Houston
Baylor
SMU
Penn State
Pitt
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina
Arizona State
UCLA
San Diego State
UNLV
Colorado
To name some off top of my head...

The states and areas around UNLV and CU locations are not considered recruiting hot beds and a lot of them you listed doesn't create TV buzz.

[factchecker]

SMU looks to have an open spot for both the 18 and 19 seasons.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/smu-mustangs.php


Take a two year break from SW Classic and move the AnM game to campus.

Play SMU at Jerryworld for 18 and 19 seasons.

Add a clause to co-host a satellite camp in Dallas with SMU after series is finished.

[Hogarusa]

Thats a huge bummer but hard to beat a ND-Michigan game so understandable on the side of the Blue.  Certainly planned on making that trip.  Will be very difficult to replace them on such short notice.  The good news is can potentially replace it with a home game.

[oldhawg]

Notre Dame is a much more appealing opponent to Michigan fans, players, and coaches than Arkansas. 

Given the opportunity, wouldn't you want the Razorbacks to cancel a two year series with the Wolverines to reschedule a long term, or even permanent, series with the Longhorns?

[The_Iceman]

SMU looks to have an open spot for both the 18 and 19 seasons.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/smu-mustangs.php


Take a two year break from SW Classic and move the AnM game to campus.

Play SMU at Jerryworld for 18 and 19 seasons.

Add a clause to co-host a satellite camp in Dallas with SMU after series is finished.

Arkansas should move the a&m game permanently to home and home on campus. Then, have a contract with Jerry to play there every season. Rotate new teams every year like Houston, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech. Maybe try to get OU, Oklahoma State, and Texas (if Texas has the balls) to rotate in too. It would be fun to have a big regional non-conference game there every season.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Michigan gets more exposure and a weaker opponent. Sounds like typical Harbaugh/B10 to me.

[Jborohog09]

Going to be hard to find another P5 home-and-home for those years.  Most teams are already booked up for a while.

[HogsonHicks]

Harbaugh flaps his gums about the SEC, then runs from a future meeting with us. Typical Big10 crap. Say what you will about ND, which is clearly a marquee name, but Harbaugh can see what we're building.  He wants no part of it.

[ricepig]

SMU looks to have an open spot for both the 18 and 19 seasons.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/smu-mustangs.php


Take a two year break from SW Classic and move the AnM game to campus.

Play SMU at Jerryworld for 18 and 19 seasons.

Add a clause to co-host a satellite camp in Dallas with SMU after series is finished.

What P5 conference is SMU in?

[Exit Pursued by a Boar]

We are not the same little piggies that we were under Houston Nutt....we played USC during a typical down cycle in talent caused by Houston Nutt and his recruiting...we can go to LSU and Ole Miss and win, but we're skeered to play big bad BLUE and the "khaki kid" ?  I see you are back into the "poor lil' Arkansas" mode as so many on this website tend to get, even when we are doing well...woe is us

The second time USC thrashed us was at home, and we had a ten-game winning streak afterwards, even being included in possible NC conversations. Granted, we did lose to LSU, Florida, and CBB's Wisconsin to end the season, but at 10-1 we were in the conversation for a time.

EFBAB

[azhog10]

Harbaugh maybe but not their fans. I've been up there and worked among them. They have respect for all the SEC teams except Vandy and KY. They do not however like the fact that the SEC is considered overall better than the Big10.

Not sure I can agree. Lived there for 6 years and trust me, the UM fans I came across did not respect or talk well about any SEC team.

[Dominicanhog]

Arkansas should move the a&m game permanently to home and home on campus. Then, have a contract with Jerry to play there every season. Rotate new teams every year like Houston, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech. Maybe try to get OU, Oklahoma State, and Texas (if Texas has the balls) to rotate in too. It would be fun to have a big regional non-conference game there every season.

agree on move A&M to campus every year and a SW Classic at Jerry's World, not sure I'd limit to just SW teams, I'd like to see Penn State, Michigan State, Nebraska, Miami just to name a few, there as well.....

as for Michigan, I was really looking forward to the games, though my hopes for series dominance had faded with Jim Huffball's arrival... so, take the 2 mill and bring on the next big name...

BTW:  I'm predicting we'll meet them in the playoffs and it'll be the "karma" talk of the season...

[flynhog]

I say we call Notre Dame and get them.  Leave Me-Chicken out in the cold.

[ricepig]

I like what we're doing with our schedule. Alcorn State and Texas State should be comfortable wins. Louisiana Tech is a cut above, and TCU is a legitimate Power 5 foe. I'd like to see us play one out-of-conference marquee game each year, so from that standpoint I hope the Michigan game is played.

 

We have to schedule a P5, so we'll have at least "marquee" game a season. The problem is we will be in a bind trying to find one at this date. We also are dead last in P5's on having their future schedule filled.

[greghog]

What a load of crap. The west is LOADED. We start consistently running the west with only one loss and THEN talk to me about setting up some out of conference trap game against Michigan, USC,or some other high profile team. We havent beat Bama in ten years. We are trending up but no need to add pressure to an already ridiculously difficult schedule. Just my opinion. I'd rather play a middle of the pack power-5 team. A nebraska, virginia tech, ucla.

I agree.  Ever since we joined the SEC, my position has been, the conference schedule is hard enough, we don't need to be playing top 10 teams in the non-conference.  I know that is not a popular opinion. 

I understand those that want "big games" in the non-conference. 

Also, as noted, there is a "in-between" between scheduling Tennessee State and Michigan. 

If we were winning the SEC and not going to the playoffs, sure.  Or, if we were winning enough games that we were in the running for the "BCS" (non-playoff) games (what ever they are called now) but not getting invited due to a "weak schedule", sure.

But we aren't there yet.

[ALLVOL]

Harbaugh maybe but not their fans. I've been up there and worked among them. They have respect for all the SEC teams except Vandy and KY. They do not however like the fact that the SEC is considered overall better than the Big10.

I guarantee you Harbaugh doesn't either.

[Ex-Trumpet]

We should outbid Michigan and schedule Notre Dame home and home.

[ImHogginIt]

Arkansas should move the a&m game permanently to home and home on campus. Then, have a contract with Jerry to play there every season. Rotate new teams every year like Houston, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech. Maybe try to get OU, Oklahoma State, and Texas (if Texas has the balls) to rotate in too. It would be fun to have a big regional non-conference game there every season.

No way. The Hogs/Aggies in Arlington is a fabulous atmosphere.

[Ex-Trumpet]

No way. The Hogs/Aggies in Arlington is a fabulous atmosphere.

Hogs/Notre Dame might be even better!

[ALLVOL]

We should outbid Michigan and schedule Notre Dame home and home.

I like it.

[ImHogginIt]

Hogs/Notre Dame might be even better!

Not as good as a conference foe that fans get fired up for every year. Jerry World game has always had a championship type atmosphere

[psooie]

2018 @ BYU
2019 BYU

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-byu-cougars-football-schedule.php

makes the most sense now since it will be hard to get anybody in a P5 league.

[The_Iceman]

No way. The Hogs/Aggies in Arlington is a fabulous atmosphere.

But you also take an SEC home game away from RRS every other year. With the addition in 2018, we need as many home SEC games as we can get.

[Jborohog09]

2018 @ BYU
2019 BYU

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-byu-cougars-football-schedule.php

makes the most sense now since it will be hard to get anybody in a P5 league.

Yea they're pretty much the only team available.  Everyone else either has a full OOC or has one or two P5's already scheduled.

[factchecker]

What P5 conference is SMU in?

You're right.   

I was thinking about recruiting and forgot about the P5 requirement.  We still have a couple open spots on our 18 and 19 schedule so we still could play SMU and add a P5 school on top.

[ImHogginIt]

But you also take an SEC home game away from RRS every other year. With the addition in 2018, we need as many home SEC games as we can get.

Nah ! That's why we have a P5 school come to Fayetteville every other year like next year with TCU and last year with Tech.
I think most people that complain about the Jerry World game have never been to it. 

[oldhawg]

Harbaugh flaps his gums about the SEC, then runs from a future meeting with us. Typical Big10 crap. Say what you will about ND, which is clearly a marquee name, but Harbaugh can see what we're building.  He wants no part of it.

Yea, right.  Harbaugh does not strike me as one who would cower from a challenge.  Playing a mid-level SEC team vs playing a team likely to be ranked in the Top Ten most years, especially a team that historically is a rivalry game ---- you tell me which is more appealing to the most fans.  Let's see. Michigan and Notre Dame are ranked #1 and #2 respectively in all time winning percentages, and #1 and # 3 in all time wins.  Plus, each school claims something like ten or eleven national championships.  The overall series favors Michigan 24-17.  This is a series that is just begging to be re-ignited.

So you think that Harbaugh is afraid of playing Arkansas? ---- in your dreams ---- just like he was afraid to take on Nick Saban on the satellite camp issue.  Michigan fans will love this series ---- Arkansas was just a two year blip on the screen to them.

Realistically, the Razorbacks have an opportunity to improve enough in the next two to three years to reach the national championship series, and perhaps play Michigan for a title.  Now that would be a meaningful game that I would like to see.



   

[factchecker]

Nah ! That's why we have a P5 school come to Fayetteville every other year like next year with TCU and last year with Tech.
I think most people that complain about the Jerry World game have never been to it.

I've only missed one SW Classic game in Dallas. 

I enjoy games in Jerry World and still want to play there.  However, I don't like taking away an on campus conference home game every other year. 

We still could play marquee matchups with teams like TCU, Baylor, Texass in Dallas.

[Dominicanhog]

We should outbid Michigan and schedule Notre Dame home and home.

we do have an extra $2 million to offer them...

[gawntrail]

The states and areas around UNLV and CU locations are not considered recruiting hot beds and a lot of them you listed doesn't create TV buzz.

UNLV is 4-5 hours from LA Metro; 5 hours from San Diego and Phoenix; 6 hours from Tucson.  As of 2013, SoCal is 22MM, Las Vegas metro is 2MM, Phoenix is 3.5MM, and Tucson is over 1MM. 

P5 OOC games create their own buzz.  Outside of their own fan base, nobody wants to see big programs run little programs in to the turf by half time.  I would think somebody surfing the channels before, after, and/or on a bye week, would tune in to a good P5 OOC game. Especially if it was a WED or Thursday night on ESPN.

.... And, SMU, Houston, SDSU, UNLV not P5, but good recruiting areas.

[Karma]

This.... He/They get a marquee matchup that puts dollars in both of their pockets and Michigan gets to run over one of the most consistently overrated teams in the country.  Seems like a no brainer for Michigan. 

Are you saying that Michigan and their fans views Arkansas as a tougher opponent than ND?  That's crazy.

[jneal56]

1000000% agree. Spot on. Once we hit that Alabama level, then I'll feel better about scheduling like they do. I mean, they've played West Virginia (2014), Wisconsin (2015), and USC this year. Those teams are very good, but it's not like they're playoff contenders.

You don't reach that level without playing at a high level. S.H.I.T. and the sisters of the poor do not get you to that level. Why? Several reasons but here are just a few...players have to play their best the entire game no matter what. Losing to Michigan or losing to Toledo. You choose. Also who do you think recruits want to play against? Crap schools? No way. They are competitors and want to be the best and in order to be the best you have to play and beat the best. Always makes me sick hearing the "we already play in the SEC" crap. All that means is you are not a real competitor except you like to win the awards in your co-ed softball rec league. To say you'd rather play a weaker, almost guaranteed win of an opponent tells alot about how afraid of competition you really are.

Just to clarify, I am speaking about everyone who feels this same way. These are the type of people who would brag about going undefeated as 25 year olds against 6 year olds. If it isn't difficult, that means it probably wasn't worth it.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Are you saying that Michigan and their fans views Arkansas as a tougher opponent than ND?  That's crazy.

So is Michigan one of the few places outside of Indiana and ESPN offices where people don't see right through their pretend competence as a program and overrated results?

[Atlhogfan1]

Michigan has openings in both seasons.  The issues are:

The B1G will play 9 conf games.

The B1G plays conference opponents almost exclusively after the first few weeks which limits flexibility to move games.

Should take it as somewhat flattering they want to exchange us instead of adding to us as they may could have done so if dates could have been worked out between us/Mich/ND. 


2018

Saturday
Sep. 1 Razorbacks Arkansas Razorbacks
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Sep. 8 --- TBA --- ---
Saturday
Sep. 15 Mustangs SMU Mustangs
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Sep. 22 Cornhuskers Nebraska Cornhuskers
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Sep. 29 Wildcats at Northwestern Wildcats
Ryan Field, Evanston, IL TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 6 Terrapins Maryland Terrapins
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 13 Badgers Wisconsin Badgers
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 20 Spartans at Michigan State Spartans
Spartan Stadium, East Lansing, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 27 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Nov. 3 Nittany Lions Penn State Nittany Lions
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 10 Scarlet Knights at Rutgers Scarlet Knights
High Point Solutions Stadium, Piscataway, NJ TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 17 Hoosiers Indiana Hoosiers
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 24 Buckeyes at Ohio State Buckeyes
Ohio Stadium, Columbus, OH TBA ---

2019
Saturday
Aug. 31 Razorbacks at Arkansas Razorbacks
D.W.R. Razorback Stadium, Fayetteville, AR TBA ---
Saturday
Sep. 7 --- TBA --- ---
Saturday
Sep. 14 --- TBA --- ---
Saturday
Sep. 21 Badgers at Wisconsin Badgers
Camp Randall Stadium, Madison, WI TBA ---
Saturday
Sep. 28 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Oct. 5 Hawkeyes Iowa Hawkeyes
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 12 Fighting Illini at Illinois Fighting Illini
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 19 Nittany Lions at Penn State Nittany Lions
Beaver Stadium, University Park, PA TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 26 Scarlet Knights Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 2 Terrapins at Maryland Terrapins
Maryland Stadium, College Park, MD TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 9 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Nov. 16 Spartans Michigan State Spartans
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 23 Hoosiers at Indiana Hoosiers
Memorial Stadium, Bloomington, IN TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 30 Buckeyes Ohio State Buckeyes
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---

[ricepig]

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2016/07/michigan_notre_dame_1.html

[ricepig]

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/brett-bielema-disappointed-in-cancellation-of-arkansas-michigan-series

[Cinco de Hogo]

They fear us because we lose to teams like Texas Tech and Rutgers?

LOL, that was supposed to be some kind of joke but then I remembered Appalachain St.

[redleg]

Looking over Power 5 teams future schedules, another Big Ten team is out of the question. In fact, a vast majority of Power 5 teams already have their "big time" non-conference games set. The only teams I found that either would be open to adding another Power 5 team, or didn't have one already on their schedules for 2018 were: Oregon, Oklahoma St, BYU, and Notre Dame.
Take your pick.  :razorback:

[Atlhogfan1]

I trust Long and Bielema will figure something out.  May be able to do one of those season opening neutral site games now in 2018 as we wouldn't be giving up a scheduled home game. 

[Wildhog]

Good.  Now schedule Kansas or Wake Forest or Syracuse to a home and home series.

[Cinco de Hogo]

Any Florida team not on our schedule would be fine with me.

[Atlhogfan1]

Looking over Power 5 teams future schedules, another Big Ten team is out of the question. In fact, a vast majority of Power 5 teams already have their "big time" non-conference games set. The only teams I found that either would be open to adding another Power 5 team, or didn't have one already on their schedules for 2018 were: Oregon, Oklahoma St, BYU, and Notre Dame.
Take your pick.  :razorback:

Schedules can be a little flexible as Michigan is showing. 

BYU needs opponents.  Probably an option.  Not easy scheduling for them sometimes. 

Again, in 2018 perhaps look for an ACC opponent willing for a neutral site game in the Falcons new stadium or a PAC 12 opponent like Az, Az St, Oregon, UCLA who like to recruit a little in Texas.  UCLA has come to Jerry World recently.  Az St just had a series with A&M.  One of these teams could probably move an opponent.(if we can't find a home and home)

[Wildhog]

Any Florida team not on our schedule would be fine with me.

FIU.  FAU.  USF.

I want us to schedule our OOC games to be 4-0.  Our conference schedule is tough enough.

[ricepig]

FIU.  FAU.  USF.

I want us to schedule our OOC games to be 4-0.  Our conference schedule is tough enough.

We have to schedule a P5, BYU, ND, or a service academy for one of them, but after that, sure.

[Wildhog]

We have to schedule a P5, BYU, ND, or a service academy for one of them, but after that, sure.

Army.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

I really, really hate hearing this.  Were we gonna beat Michigan?  Who knows?  But one thing we do know is that it would have been a big game, with the Hogs in the national spotlight. 

I tend to agree with the poster who said he bet Michigan fans weren't considering it a big game, much like we thought previously about Rutgers and TTech.  Face it folks, we don't move the meter that much in the national perception, and "elite" programs just don't get excited about playing us the way we get excited about playing them.  I think that's as frustrating to me as just about anything else as a Hog fan.  We are still sort of an afterthought SEC program. 

Michigan dropping us for Notre Dame is just another example of how perception hurts our program. 

[Biggus Piggus]

Michigan dropping us for Notre Dame is just another example of how perception hurts our program. 

Don't get it.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Hurry up and get the memo to Alabama that they are dense and don't have to schedule tough OOC games. They are obviously too dense to get it.

For fans that actually go to the games it matters. Like I said, that was a road trip I was looking forward to. Maybe we will replace it with something comparable maybe not.   

For the record, I wasn't calling you dense.
I was cutting off the old, worn out argument at the pass about how these SEC teams aren't ranked in the top ten at season's end.

[wholehog92]

Michigan gets more exposure and a weaker opponent. Sounds like typical Harbaugh/B10 to me.

Nailed the routine and dismount.