Athletes to be paid in EA NCAA football video game settlements.

[rhog1]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2015/07/03/college-athletes-video-game-settlement-payout-ncaa/29663857/?AID=10709313&PID=6149513&SID=ibo7y6ex5600ag8y00dth
"The settlements -- which Wilken approved on a preliminary basis last July -- applied to athletes who were on the roster of a team included in a game that was published or distributed from May 2003 through September 2014." The Payout will be between $1000 and as much as $6700.  I wonder if any of our seniors or past athletes filed to be paid by this.

[Pig in the Pokey]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2015/07/03/college-athletes-video-game-settlement-payout-ncaa/29663857/?AID=10709313&PID=6149513&SID=ibo7y6ex5600ag8y00dth
"The settlements -- which Wilken approved on a preliminary basis last July -- applied to athletes who were on the roster of a team included in a game that was published or distributed from May 2003 through September 2014." The Payout will be between $1000 and as much as $6700.  I wonder if any of our seniors or past athletes filed to be paid by this.

Alex Collins was a freshman in the last game. He'll get paid. and EVERY hog in his class all the way back to Matt Jones and them.

[WardamnHOGGLE]

Will I get paid for coaching these guys? 

[ldfergu]

Will I get paid for coaching these guys?

Lol, well done

[TomasPistola]

Better question - I created myself in that game. Looks just like me, same number I played with. Even my Godlike athletic ability is represented. Where's MY paycheck!?

[Cinco de Hogo]

If the schools, and they should, got paid then this is a crock of bull.  The players are amateur student athletes offered a scholarship to play for a university.  They exchange their abilities on the field for that scholarship.  Their likeness is used and marketed in many way to pay that cost of tuition. 

If their likeness is used the university they represented should get the money and then it should be distributed in the legal way as determined by NCAA rules.

That is what they agree to when they sign the LOI.  If this is legal then I can name several players who missed games because they sold this or that.  What is the difference in selling your likeness vie EA or on a t-shirt you have made at the local screen printing.

[daprospecta]

I was in the 2005 version. How do i get paid[serious]

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Will I get paid for coaching these guys? 

Will I get a bonus for my 25 consecutive National championships..!?

[Pig in the Pokey]

If the schools, and they should, got paid then this is a crock of bull.  The players are amateur student athletes offered a scholarship to play for a university.  They exchange their abilities on the field for that scholarship.  Their likeness is used and marketed in many way to pay that cost of tuition. 

If their likeness is used the university they represented should get the money and then it should be distributed in the legal way as determined by NCAA rules.

That is what they agree to when they sign the LOI.  If this is legal then I can name several players who missed games because they sold this or that.  What is the difference in selling your likeness vie EA or on a t-shirt you have made at the local screen printing.

totally agree. ESPECIALLY since nobody on the game was named. their ht and wght was (sometimes) right but hell, sometimes they weren't even the same race. Can't believe they won that suit.

[Pig in the Pokey]

I was in the 2005 version. How do i get paid[serious]

you just have to file a claim. you get like $1000 for each year u were in it.

[Dr. Starcs]

Claims had to be filed yesterday.

[Nipsey Mussle]

Any news on new NCAA games coming out? I read awhile back that football and even basketball games would be produced again. Of course, they will be different but I just miss the recruiting/dynasty part of it.

[Bacons Rebellion]

Somebody sold thousands of UofA yearbooks from 1978-1983 and they all had my likeness in it and they made a lot of money of them.  Who do I ask for my check?

[Adam Stokes]

totally agree. ESPECIALLY since nobody on the game was named. their ht and wght was (sometimes) right but hell, sometimes they weren't even the same race. Can't believe they won that suit.

My favorite was when Steven Hill was in one of the games and listed at 6'0", but still a center .  He was always cut before the season started to make way for recruits.

[Professor Psychosis]

Why don't they just create the game with 129 generic teams and 10 generic conferences in there?  The EastSouth Conference's Division B can be made up of the Arkansas Diamonds, the Louisiana-BR Swamp-kitties, the Mississippi Statists, the Mississippi City Kitty Cats, the Alabama Cheaters, and the Western Georgia Prairie Dogs.

Make the rosters all generic guys who don't look anything like the real athletes. So as not to accidentally represent someone, all QBs in the game wear 90-99, all RBs wear 70-79, linemen are 1-40, etc, and they're all 8 feet tall and weigh 600 lbs by default.

Make the game where all of this stuff can be modified by the userbase (custom numbers, custom roster names, custom logos, ability to renname schools and conferences, custom players), and within a week, you will see the gaming community take care of it.

Just call it College Football 2016 or whatever, and have no official ties to anyone when you officially release the game.

Would this work without them getting sued?

Probably not as many people would buy it, though, since being able to play as your favorite team the moment you plop the disc in the console is the whole appeal to some of the people who play the game.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Why don't they just create the game with 129 generic teams and 10 generic conferences in there?  The EastSouth Conference's Division B can be made up of the Arkansas Diamonds, the Louisiana-BR Swamp-kitties, the Mississippi Statists, the Mississippi City Kitty Cats, the Alabama Cheaters, and the Western Georgia Prairie Dogs.

Make the rosters all generic guys who don't look anything like the real athletes. So as not to accidentally represent someone, all QBs in the game wear 90-99, all RBs wear 70-79, linemen are 1-40, etc, and they're all 8 feet tall and weigh 600 lbs by default.

Make the game where all of this stuff can be modified by the userbase (custom numbers, custom roster names, custom logos, ability to renname schools and conferences, custom players), and within a week, you will see the gaming community take care of it.

Just call it College Football 2016 or whatever, and have no official ties to anyone when you officially release the game.

Would this work without them getting sued?

Probably not as many people would buy it, though, since being able to play as your favorite team the moment you plop the disc in the console is the whole appeal to some of the people who play the game.

As long as everything modifiable, then it should matter very, very little.   I remember back several years ago when I bought the NCAA B-Ball game that I was able to download some sort of roster file that when saved, brought all the info up to date with proper names, heights, etc.

All it would take is for some industrious super-zealot fan to take the time to make the changes, save them off, and post them for download.

Not hard for the secondary user to download and save at all.

What you're suggesting is exactly what I'd aim for if I'm EA

[sasnakrafan]

Yup you can get rosters every year usually a few days after the release. You can get it free or pay someone a couple bucks on ebay and you'll have it. The only thing becomes the schools will want their cut bc what are the odds of a "random" school named Texas am and the likes... I mean you can try and circumvent and say Texas aTm laggies but then how close can you get to the "likeness" before the government/schools crackdown so they can get paid.

[Hawghiggs]

If the schools, and they should, got paid then this is a crock of bull.  The players are amateur student athletes offered a scholarship to play for a university.  They exchange their abilities on the field for that scholarship.  Their likeness is used and marketed in many way to pay that cost of tuition. 

If their likeness is used the university they represented should get the money and then it should be distributed in the legal way as determined by NCAA rules.

That is what they agree to when they sign the LOI.  If this is legal then I can name several players who missed games because they sold this or that.  What is the difference in selling your likeness vie EA or on a t-shirt you have made at the local screen printing.

This all started because they kept using the athletes likeness long after they had left the program. No one should be allowed to own your likeness forever. Not unless you get compensated for it.

[TomasPistola]

This all started because they kept using the athletes likeness long after they had left the program. No one should be allowed to own your likeness forever. Not unless you get compensated for it.

It all started because Charles O'Bannon is a bastard.

[Karma]

It all started because Charles O'Bannon is a bastard.

Some of you are socialists when it comes to college athletics.

[Cinco de Hogo]

Some of you are socialists when it comes to college athletics.

No we're not, if we were they would have to share with us too...wait a minute...

[Cinco de Hogo]

This all started because they kept using the athletes likeness long after they had left the program. No one should be allowed to own your likeness forever. Not unless you get compensated for it.

Then why are people claiming they will get paid for the years while they were in college?  Why can a university continue to use there likeness?  As I said, whatever the case the universities should be the ones getting the money.  Did they continues to use the original uniform with the school colors and numbers or did they change it to represent the players new pro team? 

[Hog_Fink]

Then why are people claiming they will get paid for the years while they were in college?  Why can a university continue to use there likeness?  As I said, whatever the case the universities should be the ones getting the money.  Did they continues to use the original uniform with the school colors and numbers or did they change it to represent the players new pro team?

Yall are hopeless. Like the universities dont bank enough off these kids, like their image isnt already exploited enough. far beyond compensation with an education. Get real. Football is big $$. Yall know the game. It's not about education most places. It's keeping kids eligible. These kids put in tons of work and make a huge commitment. A lot of them from impoverished families. Let them get theirs.

[Steef]

We can debate right and wrong, fair and unfair, big profit for schools vs poverty for athletes.

But the reality is, if you open this Pandora, the wealthy schools will OUTBID the less wealthy schools.

The NCAA will cease to exist and a new entity will emerge. An NFL-lite.

Players union. Agents. Shoot, ultimately, a need for classes will be eliminated.

If you allow money to rule...it will.

[lefty08]

Kids are not exploited nearly as much as some believe. I work my job for money, they work theirs for an education. They signed a contract much like I did. If it was not for college football, what other platform to the NFL would these kids have? Is say that's worth a lot. Then you have e other 90% of players that will never make it to pro ball and they have a great education to fall back on. Does it suck a little for the exceptional athletes? Sure. But you have to realize they account for such a small percentage of the athletes and that's just the way it is. Russel Wilson just won a super bowl making 600K. Quit using guys like Johnny Football as an argument. Use Greg, the starting LG for the eastern Michigan screaming eagles. There are infinitely more Gregs than Johnnies

[Cinco de Hogo]

Yall are hopeless. Like the universities dont bank enough off these kids, like their image isnt already exploited enough. far beyond compensation with an education. Get real. Football is big $$. Yall know the game. It's not about education most places. It's keeping kids eligible. These kids put in tons of work and make a huge commitment. A lot of them from impoverished families. Let them get theirs.

You confuse what ESPN makes with what universities make.  Tell me how man are not reinvesting what the make right back into the program and school.  How many even operate in the black without public support, my support?  The universities should get whatever money came from these situations and continue to invest it in scholarships and the their programs.

[Pig in the Pokey]

My favorite was when Steven Hill was in one of the games and listed at 6'0", but still a center .  He was always cut before the season started to make way for recruits.

remember the 6'7" Safety with 90 speed we had one year? AND he was white. All my dudes were like, "Yo, Ken, who is THAT cracka??" And I'd have to say, "ah, mane, it's just a glitch"

[Pig in the Pokey]

As long as everything modifiable, then it should matter very, very little.   I remember back several years ago when I bought the NCAA B-Ball game that I was able to download some sort of roster file that when saved, brought all the info up to date with proper names, heights, etc.

All it would take is for some industrious super-zealot fan to take the time to make the changes, save them off, and post them for download.

Not hard for the secondary user to download and save at all.

What you're suggesting is exactly what I'd aim for if I'm EA

yep, it was mod'd in. so every pc game has mods. why would the developer be responsible for Mod content?? It's ridiculous for EA to have lost this suit. Who the hell litigated this?
Horrible legal team.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Kids are not exploited nearly as much as some believe. I work my job for money, they work theirs for an education. They signed a contract much like I did. If it was not for college football, what other platform to the NFL would these kids have? Is say that's worth a lot. Then you have e other 90% of players that will never make it to pro ball and they have a great education to fall back on. Does it suck a little for the exceptional athletes? Sure. But you have to realize they account for such a small percentage of the athletes and that's just the way it is. Russel Wilson just won a super bowl making 600K. Quit using guys like Johnny Football as an argument. Use Greg, the starting LG for the eastern Michigan screaming eagles. There are infinitely more Gregs than Johnnies

newsflash America- WE ARE ALL BEING EXPLOITED. DEBT SLAVES.

[Pig in the Pokey]

It all started because Charles O'Bannon is a bastard.

i already hated him so much before this. Now i want an O'Bannon voodoo doll.

[TomasPistola]

Some of you are socialists when it comes to college athletics.

Not a socialist. I just hate Charles O'Bannon. Don't like his brother either.

[Karma]

yep, it was mod'd in. so every pc game has mods. why would the developer be responsible for Mod content?? It's ridiculous for EA to have lost this suit. Who the hell litigated this?
Horrible legal team.

Can you explain, with some detail, what legal decisions were made that you disagree with?

I'll hang up and listen.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Yall are hopeless. Like the universities dont bank enough off these kids, like their image isnt already exploited enough. far beyond compensation with an education. Get real. Football is big $$. Yall know the game. It's not about education most places. It's keeping kids eligible. These kids put in tons of work and make a huge commitment. A lot of them from impoverished families. Let them get theirs.

This is one perfect example of what is wrong with America. 

"You have enough.  I don't.  You don't need more.   I do.   You are big and powerful.  I'm not.   Help!  Help!  Involve the idiot courts to steal from someone to give to my dumb arse."

The scholarship is a MORE than fair compensation in the form of a contract.   Only in "Entitlement USA" would the terms of a contract be allowed to be muddied and warped.

Recruiting Capt. Prima Donna probably cost a poor man's salary for six months just to begin with due to all the time, effort, trips, etc.
Then, coaching, training, special diets, workout regimens with professional, tailor made routines, room, board, a free education, and the ability to showcase what he/she has for the next level.

I'm tired of this mentality and argument.   The libs won't be happy till this is another arena where entitled johnny has his fingers in this pie as well.   Well, bye-bye low end colleges and universities that are scraping by as it is.  Here comes another enemy.  A self made one.   

Lord Entitlement.

[Hogs run wild]

This is one perfect example of what is wrong with America. 

"You have enough.  I don't.  You don't need more.   I do.   You are big and powerful.  I'm not.   Help!  Help!  Involve the idiot courts to steal from someone to give to my dumb arse."

The scholarship is a MORE than fair compensation in the form of a contract.   Only in "Entitlement USA" would the terms of a contract be allowed to be muddied and warped.

Recruiting Capt. Prima Donna probably cost a poor man's salary for six months just to begin with due to all the time, effort, trips, etc.
Then, coaching, training, special diets, workout regimens with professional, tailor made routines, room, board, a free education, and the ability to showcase what he/she has for the next level.

I'm tired of this mentality and argument.   The libs won't be happy till this is another arena where entitled johnny has his fingers in this pie as well.   Well, bye-bye low end colleges and universities that are scraping by as it is.  Here comes another enemy.  A self made one.   

Lord Entitlement.

Preach it Brotha!

[Karma]

This is one perfect example of what is wrong with America. 

"You have enough.  I don't.  You don't need more.   I do.   You are big and powerful.  I'm not.   Help!  Help!  Involve the idiot courts to steal from someone to give to my dumb arse."

The scholarship is a MORE than fair compensation in the form of a contract.   Only in "Entitlement USA" would the terms of a contract be allowed to be muddied and warped.

Recruiting Capt. Prima Donna probably cost a poor man's salary for six months just to begin with due to all the time, effort, trips, etc.
Then, coaching, training, special diets, workout regimens with professional, tailor made routines, room, board, a free education, and the ability to showcase what he/she has for the next level.

I'm tired of this mentality and argument.   The libs won't be happy till this is another arena where entitled johnny has his fingers in this pie as well.   Well, bye-bye low end colleges and universities that are scraping by as it is.  Here comes another enemy.  A self made one.   

Lord Entitlement.

The athlete doesn't sign anything with EA Sports. And the schools never claimed that they were selling the athletes likeness. In fact, they said they weren't. So EA used the likeness without the school's or player's consent. Yet that's fine with you and the player isn't entitled to anything. That doesn't make internal sense.

[jry04]

If the schools, and they should, got paid then this is a crock of bull.  The players are amateur student athletes offered a scholarship to play for a university.  They exchange their abilities on the field for that scholarship.  Their likeness is used and marketed in many way to pay that cost of tuition. 

If their likeness is used the university they represented should get the money and then it should be distributed in the legal way as determined by NCAA rules.

That is what they agree to when they sign the LOI.  If this is legal then I can name several players who missed games because they sold this or that.  What is the difference in selling your likeness vie EA or on a t-shirt you have made at the local screen printing.

I am not sure you understand how licensing works. Do you really think the U of A did not receive any money for being in the video game?

[ArkanSWAG]

Maybe I missed it earlier, but does this imply that EA (or someone else?) is taking further steps to license appropriately so that another game can happen?

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

The athlete doesn't sign anything with EA Sports. And the schools never claimed that they were selling the athletes likeness. In fact, they said they weren't. So EA used the likeness without the school's or player's consent. Yet that's fine with you and the player isn't entitled to anything. That doesn't make internal sense.

My comment was specifically towards what Galactivation had stated.   Using what he stated, the athlete was magically, mystically entitled to whatever funds came through based solely off the concept that (the elite) universities were making beaucoup $$ and therefore, they should get some.

What you're discussing, which goes back to the OP, is a lot more defendable.

[Karma]

My comment was specifically towards what Galactivation had stated.   Using what he stated, the athlete was magically, mystically entitled to whatever funds came through based solely off the concept that (the elite) universities were making beaucoup $$ and therefore, they should get some.

What you're discussing, which goes back to the OP, is a lot more defendable.

Fair enough, and I get your point about there being no entitlement to participate just because the schools get paid.

[JackTNHogfan]

Bring the game back please!  I need my football fix every year and playing 2014 version which is already two years old is not getting it.  I'm on a staycation this week...  Wish I could play a new updated version with our new uni's and stadium entrance. 

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Fair enough, and I get your point about there being no entitlement to participate just because the schools get paid.

+1 for civil discussion.

[PorkSoda]

As long as everything modifiable, then it should matter very, very little.   I remember back several years ago when I bought the NCAA B-Ball game that I was able to download some sort of roster file that when saved, brought all the info up to date with proper names, heights, etc.

All it would take is for some industrious super-zealot fan to take the time to make the changes, save them off, and post them for download.

Not hard for the secondary user to download and save at all.

What you're suggesting is exactly what I'd aim for if I'm EA

didn't they do that in all the games anyway?  I mean the game only had the numbers on the jerseys, but you could easily download fan created rosters that included all the actual players, names, and attributes.

as far as likeness?  aside from the cover the graphics were not near good enough for you to recognize a players face.  I mean common.  its all rather silly if you ask me.  I mean the whole point they did it that was was so they wouldn't get sued or violate NCAA rules. 

[PorkSoda]

The athlete doesn't sign anything with EA Sports. And the schools never claimed that they were selling the athletes likeness. In fact, they said they weren't. So EA used the likeness without the school's or player's consent. Yet that's fine with you and the player isn't entitled to anything. That doesn't make internal sense.

likeness?  which likeness.



who were these players, can you tell by the face?

[Pig in the Pokey]

The athlete doesn't sign anything with EA Sports. And the schools never claimed that they were selling the athletes likeness. In fact, they said they weren't. So EA used the likeness without the school's or player's consent. Yet that's fine with you and the player isn't entitled to anything. That doesn't make internal sense.

they weren't "likenesses", they were generic.

[Hogimus Prime]

It all started because Charles O'Bannon is a bastard.

I think it was Ed O'Bannon.  He was, maybe still is, selling cars in Vegas and was at friend's house and his friend pointed out he was in some college basketball game. 

I hated the O'Bannons before and now I hate them even more along with Toby Bailey, Jim Harrick, JR Henderson, Bill Walton, John Wooden and eveything else that has anything to do with UCLA

[TomasPistola]

I think it was Ed O'Bannon.  He was, maybe still is, selling cars in Vegas and was at friend's house and his friend pointed out he was in some college basketball game. 

I hated the O'Bannons before and now I hate them even more along with Toby Bailey, Jim Harrick, JR Henderson, Bill Walton, John Wooden and eveything else that has anything to do with UCLA

You're right, it was Ed. They both suck.

[Hogimus Prime]

You're right, it was Ed. They both suck.

I hate Jason Kapono cause he went to the same high school and UCLA as the O'Bannons.

[Cinco de Hogo]

I am not sure you understand how licensing works. Do you really think the U of A did not receive any money for being in the video game?

To assume or to presume that is the question.

Is that really all you had to say about my post?

I know about licensing but I don't work in any capacity where I would be privy to how a university was paid.  So I termed it the way I did.

[Cinco de Hogo]

I've got an interesting question.

If the SEC Network or ESPN show a game from 2005 will all the players that were on those teams get paid?

I think I'll start a business out of this like how artist get paid anytime a radio station plays one of their recordings. 

Someone got to manage all these events as they happen.  So I'm going to sign up all players that have ever played the game and make the media pay to even mention their name.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

I've got an interesting question.

If the SEC Network or ESPN show a game from 2005 will all the players that were on those teams get paid?

I think I'll start a business out of this like how artist get paid anytime a radio station plays one of their recordings. 

Someone got to manage all these events as they happen.  So I'm going to sign up all players that have ever played the game and make the media pay to even mention their name.

What about their initials?   I think you're stopping too quickly.  Throw in jersey number, birthdates by numbers (07-13-83), slang nicknames, and descriptive nicknames as potential income sources and protected terms.

To be safe, you might want to also cover all other possibilities for recognition by adding sign language, blinking in morse code or binary, pictowords, hand drawn pictures (yes, even stick figures), and lastly Flag Semaphore.