Randy Shannon named DC at Florida

[Karma]

It's interesting he couldn't get that promotion here.

[ricepig]

Not really.

[jackflash]

we will see how this work out. he will recruit Florida well for them

[DoctorSusscrofa]

we will see how this work out. he will recruit Florida well for them

Presumably he was already doing that. He just got bumped up to DC. If he wasn't already recruiting Florida well, I don't think he'd have gotten the DC title.

[code red]

Interesting.....how the lb play declined after he left Arkansas as well.

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

Interesting.....how the lb play declined after he left Arkansas as well.

shh we aren't allowed to tell the truth around here

[AirWarren]

shh we aren't allowed to tell the truth around here

Ain't that the truth. You get called a fake fan if you do.

[ricepig]

Interesting.....how the lb play declined after he left Arkansas as well.

While I never thought he was enamored with being here, and at the time wasn't overly thrilled with our LB play, it was better than now. That may have been due to the play of Spaight in 2014, but it isn't better now, for sure.

[Razorbackers]

While I never thought he was enamored with being here, and at the time wasn't overly thrilled with our LB play, it was better than now. That may have been due to the play of Spaight in 2014, but it isn't better now, for sure.

I think Spaight definitely and Mitchell were the reason the LB play looked good. I don't think it would have been light years better with him here these past 2 season.

I think it's about to improve significantly over the next 2 with some of these speedy guys we have on board and committed.

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

While I never thought he was enamored with being here, and at the time wasn't overly thrilled with our LB play, it was better than now. That may have been due to the play of Spaight in 2014, but it isn't better now, for sure.

It did seem like he hit the road the moment a decent job opened up. I wonder if it was a dislike for Arkansas/Fayetteville or if he and robb smith had "conflicting views" on the defense. If the latter, we definitely kept the wrong person

[code red]

While I never thought he was enamored with being here, and at the time wasn't overly thrilled with our LB play, it was better than now. That may have been due to the play of Spaight in 2014, but it isn't better now, for sure.

Well yeah....considering we could insert any safety at lb and probably fair just as well.

[BR]

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Randy Shannon worked w/ @CoachPartridge at Arkansas, wonder if Florida will try to find a way to get Partridge on staff. Excellent recruiter

[The Boar War]

It did seem like he hit the road the moment a decent job opened up. I wonder if it was a dislike for Arkansas/Fayetteville or if he and robb smith had "conflicting views" on the defense. If the latter, we definitely kept the wrong person

Did he say something about going to a place where they were serious about winning?  I don't remember it but my uncle swears he did.

[k.c.hawg]

It did seem like he hit the road the moment a decent job opened up. I wonder if it was a dislike for Arkansas/Fayetteville or if he and robb smith had "conflicting views" on the defense. If the latter, we definitely kept the wrong person

Most people that are 50 years old and have spent 45 years in Miami, 3 years in DFW and 2 years in Arkansas..........would absolutely hate Arkansas/Fayetteville and DFW for that matter. Never have known one person that lived on the coast and liked living on the coast especially south Florida, that would tell you they were happy living in NWA.

[younghog]

HOGS ONLY

[go hogues]

Most people that are 50 years old and have spent 45 years in Miami, 3 years in DFW and 2 years in Arkansas..........would absolutely hate Arkansas/Fayetteville and DFW for that matter. Never have known one person that lived on the coast and liked living on the coast especially south Florida, that would tell you they were happy living in NWA.

Ba ba ba bingo

[kaki]

It did seem like he hit the road the moment a decent job opened up. I wonder if it was a dislike for Arkansas/Fayetteville or if he and robb smith had "conflicting views" on the defense. If the latter, we definitely kept the wrong person

Very interesting how easily some get enamored with a name/person and how quickly they can just as easily turn.  The minute Shannon left, he became the greatest coach in the history of linebackers and defense, but if he had stayed, most likely many would be hoping that he could land the Wake Forest job! 

[Redhogs]

Did he say something about going to a place where they were serious about winning?  I don't remember it but my uncle swears he did.

Yes he most certainly did...hit Bert with that little nugget on the way out the door. It was not a friendly parting of the ways. Don't think he ever wanted to be here. Said something to the effect of he was going to a program that wasn't so average and were winners, unlike Arkansas.

[bennyl08]

Interesting.....how the lb play declined after he left Arkansas as well.

It did? I know the LB play declined after Spaight left. However, outside of Spaight, LB play was much better than anything we saw in 2013, even this year.

[Youngsta71701]

It's interesting he couldn't get that promotion here.

IKR...He's good enough to be the DC at Florida but he's not good enough to be the DC at Arkansas...

[Youngsta71701]

Very interesting how easily some get enamored with a name/person and how quickly they can just as easily turn.  The minute Shannon left, he became the greatest coach in the history of linebackers and defense, but if he had stayed, most likely many would be hoping that he could land the Wake Forest job!

If he did good for him. That may have been the main reason he didn't want to be here. If he would have gotten the DC job and that extra money he may have stayed...

Lets be honest here folks. We all know the reason he didn't get that DC job... ...We all know he was more than qualified.

[onebadrubi]

Interesting.....how the lb play declined after he left Arkansas as well.

You have short term agenda driven memory. We were gassed over the middle badly when he was here.

[Youngsta71701]

You have short term agenda driven memory. We were gassed over the middle badly when he was here.

And worst since he left.

[hogsfan31]

Most people that are 50 years old and have spent 45 years in Miami, 3 years in DFW and 2 years in Arkansas..........would absolutely hate Arkansas/Fayetteville and DFW for that matter. Never have known one person that lived on the coast and liked living on the coast especially south Florida, that would tell you they were happy living in NWA.

I live on the coast in South Florida and would gladly live in NW Ark any day, but I'm not from Florida and didn't spend 45 years here.

And IMO Gainesville is nothing special. Miami> Gainesville anyday, although it's a 5 to 5.5 hour drive between the two, he's not far from home.

[Buff]

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Randy Shannon worked w/ @CoachPartridge at Arkansas, wonder if Florida will try to find a way to get Partridge on staff. Excellent recruiter

You wanna go ahead and just kick me in the balls now?

[Hog N Bama]

Yes he most certainly did...hit Bret with that little nugget on the way out the door. It was not a friendly parting of the ways. Don't think he ever wanted to be here. Said something to the effect of he was going to a program that wasn't so average and were winners, unlike Arkansas.

only to get BEAT by Arkansas HAHAHAHA   CBB got the last word 

[The Kig]

Most people that are 50 years old and have spent 45 years in Miami, 3 years in DFW and 2 years in Arkansas..........would absolutely hate Arkansas/Fayetteville and DFW for that matter. Never have known one person that lived on the coast and liked living on the coast especially south Florida, that would tell you they were happy living in NWA.

I sorta get what you're saying, but have you been to Gainesville?  First of all, it's not on the coast...and not remotely close to Miami.  Only about an hour longer drive from Little Rock to New Orleans than Gainesville to Miami.  Daytona is probably the closest beach and it's over 2 hours away.  Other than the university, it is mostly rednecks...sorta like Arkansas, but flat and swampy.  It's a small college town, not really that close to anything.   

As one of the state main universities, it has inherent recruiting advantages over a place like Arkansas.  That's the major difference.  Scenically, NWA is considerably nicer than either DFW or Gainesville. 

[PorkRinds]

Yes he most certainly did...hit Bret with that little nugget on the way out the door. It was not a friendly parting of the ways. Don't think he ever wanted to be here. Said something to the effect of he was going to a program that wasn't so average and were winners, unlike Arkansas.

Link?

[Redhogs]

only to get BEAT by Arkansas HAHAHAHA   CBB got the last word 

Ah, no, he went to the SECCG while we were blowing 24-7 and 24-0 leads. I'd say he was happy with that, and he was right. Don't let the facts get in your homer way.

[12247]

One of these days some of the SLLLOOOOOWWWWWEEEERRRRR among us will finally realize that many, many assistants do not like working for a coach who is aloof, doesn't appear to be involved in the nuts and bolts of the game, doesn't seem to want a second team, and stands aside from the little things that make a group of people a team.  And therefore, not appearing to care about wins and losses.

[Darren DeLoach]

One of these days some of the SLLLOOOOOWWWWWEEEERRRRR among us will finally realize that many, many assistants do not like working for a coach who is aloof, doesn't appear to be involved in the nuts and bolts of the game, doesn't seem to want a second team, and stands aside from the little things that make a group of people a team.  And therefore, not appearing to care about wins and losses.

Sigh...and one of these days some may come to realize that Shannon was going back to Florida the first chance he got.

I'm sure not everyone enjoys working with our head coach. Shocker.

[Darren DeLoach]

Yes he most certainly did...hit Bret with that little nugget on the way out the door. It was not a friendly parting of the ways. Don't think he ever wanted to be here. Said something to the effect of he was going to a program that wasn't so average and were winners, unlike Arkansas.

He must really hate Patterson and the TCU program to leave there for here...

[colbs]

Yes he most certainly did...hit Bret with that little nugget on the way out the door. It was not a friendly parting of the ways. Don't think he ever wanted to be here. Said something to the effect of he was going to a program that wasn't so average and were winners, unlike Arkansas.

BB & Shannon seemed to be on good terms before & after the Arkansas/Florida game this year.  I doubt it went down like you say.

[gladhoggrad]

Shannon WANTED to be DC at Arkansas. He was led to believe he would be seriously considered and never received much consideration. BB tried to keep him with that Asst Head Coach title or whatever it was called and little more money. Shannon was out not long after that.

People say we need faster LBs. Who on here thinks Shannon couldn't have pulled one or more of those here since he's been gone? He could have at least found someone who could spill Brooks on obvious passing downs.

The Smith over Shannon decision was when I began to wonder if BB could hack it in the SEC. I think the jury is about to return a verdict on that one. Let's see his next DC hire.

[Inhogswetrust]

Most people that are 50 years old and have spent 45 years in Miami, 3 years in DFW and 2 years in Arkansas..........would absolutely hate Arkansas/Fayetteville and DFW for that matter. Never have known one person that lived on the coast and liked living on the coast especially south Florida, that would tell you they were happy living in NWA.

IF one likes the coast then that's their prerogative. IF one likes the mountains that's their prerogative. If one likes flat farm land that's their prerogative. Just because one has lived there a lot doesn't mean they will always like it better. It is more like the emotional attachment of "home" than location sometimes for many. I was born in south central Arkansas but you would have to pay me a fortune to live there now. The only reason we live in Memphis is to be close to family and my wife's job at FedEx. We would much rather prefer to live in NWA or the western US mountains and we aren't from either. I know a few former Hogs that were from other places and they made Arkansas their home after their playing careers were over. Same as some  former high school athletes form Arkansas that went elsewhere and stayed there. No biggie. You couldn't pay me enough to live in LA or San Fran or OKC or Chicago but some wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Same for some from NWA. They wouldn't wan o live anywhere else. There are reasons some move there besides Wal-Mart jobs. Even those that do for that reason stay a lot of the time.

[Redhogs]

BB & Shannon seemed to be on good terms before & after the Arkansas/Florida game this year.  I doubt it went down like you say.

Doubt it all you want. Do a little research and you will find it was said.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Shannon WANTED to be DC at Arkansas. He was led to believe he would be seriously considered and never received much consideration. BB tried to keep him with that Asst Head Coach title or whatever it was called and little more money. Shannon was out not long after that.

People say we need faster LBs. Who on here thinks Shannon couldn't have pulled one or more of those here since he's been gone? He could have at least found someone who could spill Brooks on obvious passing downs.

The Smith over Shannon decision was when I began to wonder if BB could hack it in the SEC. I think the jury is about to return a verdict on that one. Let's see his next DC hire.

I think it is quite possible that Shannon and Bielema didn't share the same recruiting philosophy when it came to the quality/type of kid that Bielema wanted to recruit to Arkansas. How many of Shannon's recruits stuck around? I don't recall for certain and maybe someone else does, but I thought he had some character busts in his recruits? I don't think it had to do with a lack of athleticism.

[Redhogs]

IF one likes the coast then that's their prerogative. IF one likes the mountains that's their prerogative. Just because one has lived there a lot doesn't mea they will always like it better. It is more like the emotional attachment of "home" than location sometimes for many. I was born in south central Arkansas but you would have to pay me a fortune to live there now. The only reason we live in Memphis is to be close to family and my wife's job at FedEx. We would much rather prefer to live in NWA or the western US mountains and we aren't from either. I know a few former Hogs that were from other places and they made Arkansas their home after their playing careers were over. Same as some  former high school athletes form Arkansas that went elsewhere and stayed there. No biggie. You couldn't pay me enough to live in LA or San Fran or OKC or Chicago but some wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Same for some from NWA. They wouldn't wan o live anywhere else. There are reasons some move there besides Wal-Mart jobs. Even those that do for that reason stay a lot of the time.

Correct, good post. I spent a July in Florida and found it hell on earth...made NWA look like the dry arid desert...have lived in Ca. Colo. and TX. like it here best of all, but that's just me. There is no perfect place, some are just more perfect than others.

[Inhogswetrust]

Correct, good post. I spent a July in Florida and found it hell on earth...made NWA look like the dry arid desert...have lived in Ca. Colo. and TX. like it here best of all, but that's just me. There is no perfect place, some are just more perfect than others.

I've worked in Destin, Pensacola and Lantana and been in several other places in Florida including all of the pan handle, Miami, Orlando, Palm Beach, West Palm and Tallahassee. You would have to pay me a small fortune to live in that state. I wouldn't want to live in it the rest of my life even if I were retired. I also actually like the ability to live wherever I desire and still being able to go visit "home" in Arkansas. I go to south Arkansas a couple of times a year and love going back. But it's because of my relatives and to see them instead of to visit the "location" or area. The area I like to go to is a little north of White Oak Lake and close to the Little Mulberry called Red Hill. That and Chidester is where my Dad is from. I also visit my Mom's old stopping grounds and homeplace just south of Camden off Mt. Holly RD. around Bethesda church. I have a lot of relatives that live there and are buried in the cemetery at that church. I was born in Camden and have a lot of relatives there that wouldn't want to live anywhere else. That's their prerogative and I respect it. It's not for me though.

[Pig In The City]

Interesting.....how the lb play declined after he left Arkansas as well.

Bingo! And people were giving credit to Smith. Lol

[Pig In The City]

I think it is quite possible that Shannon and Bielema didn't share the same recruiting philosophy when it came to the quality/type of kid that Bielema wanted to recruit to Arkansas. How many of Shannon's recruits stuck around? I don't recall for certain and maybe someone else does, but I thought he had some character busts in his recruits? I don't think it had to do with a lack of athleticism.

Anytime you recruit FL you are going to have busts. It is just the reality of it.

[Inhogswetrust]

Anytime you recruit FL you are going to have busts. It is just the reality of it.

Anytime you recruit ANYWHERE you are going to have busts.

[aloha_kid]

It's interesting he couldn't get that promotion here.

I believe he would have lost money to take a DC job here as he was still being paid by the U.  Pretty much the same reason he didn't get the DC job at Florida to begin with.

[jacobp]

Bingo! And people were giving credit to Smith. Lol

Yeah, nothing to do with Spaight graduating, Greenlaw's injury, our bad d line, etc.

We are redshirting and bringing in better LB talent than we've had in years. That and Greenlaw coming back, LB is a position to be cautiously optimistic about the next few years

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Anytime you recruit FL you are going to have busts. It is just the reality of it.

Here are the recruits out of Florida during the two recruiting seasons that Shannon was here and the coaches that were the primary and secondary recruiters for those players. You can draw your own conclusions.

Florida Recruits 2013-2014

JoJo Robinson:              Shannon/Williams
Kendrick Edwards:         Shannon/Williams
Randy Ramsey:             Shannon/Williams
Anthony Brown:            Shannon/Williams
Josh Allen:                   Pittman/Chaney
Alex Collins:                 Partridge/Thomas
Denver Kirkland:            Shannon/Pittman
DeAndre Coley:             Shannon/Partridge
KeTyrus Marks:             Partridge/Ash

[onebadrubi]

And worst since he left.

Actually no.  We no longer are a free release for a slot receiver/TE between the hashes like a few years ago.  Now we have other holes but not that one which was solely on Shannon's position

[onebadrubi]

Shannon WANTED to be DC at Arkansas. He was led to believe he would be seriously considered and never received much consideration. BB tried to keep him with that Asst Head Coach title or whatever it was called and little more money. Shannon was out not long after that.

People say we need faster LBs. Who on here thinks Shannon couldn't have pulled one or more of those here since he's been gone? He could have at least found someone who could spill Brooks on obvious passing downs.

The Smith over Shannon decision was when I began to wonder if BB could hack it in the SEC. I think the jury is about to return a verdict on that one. Let's see his next DC hire.

Well I guess by your antics Shannon can't hack it as a DC either as Arkansas ran it right down his linebackers throat while at Florida this year.

[factchecker]

Well I guess by your antics Shannon can't hack it as a DC either as Arkansas ran it right down his linebackers throat while at Florida this year.

https://twitter.com/russellschaap/status/795729064950714368

[tophawg19]

I've worked in Destin, Pensacola and Lantana and been in several other places in Florida including all of the pan handle, Miami, Orlando, Palm Beach, West Palm and Tallahassee. You would have to pay me a small fortune to live in that state. I wouldn't want to live in it the rest of my life even if I were retired. I also actually like the ability to live wherever I desire and still being able to go visit "home" in Arkansas. I go to south Arkansas a couple of times a year and love going back. But it's because of my relatives and to see them instead of to visit the "location" or area. The area I like to go to is a little north of White Oak Lake and close to the Little Mulberry called Red Hill. That and Chidester is where my Dad is from. I also visit my Mom's old stopping grounds and homeplace just south of Camden off Mt. Holly RD. around Bethesda church. I have a lot of relatives that live there and are buried in the cemetery at that church. I was born in Camden and have a lot of relatives there that wouldn't want to live anywhere else. That's their prerogative and I respect it. It's not for me though.

they probably wouldn't mind somewhere else .Camden has fallen into a hole . little to do unless you hunt and fish. quality of life as it is measured is better in surrounding towns . family and jobs is all that holds most here . i see you are in memphis . that is one town i will never return to . been there twice and hated it both times

[factchecker]

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