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GalaHawg

This is a fun website to play with...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012

You can re-sort the list by changing the year and player position on the top right corner.

According to this...

Joe Adams - 12th WR - 110th overall
Jay Wright - 20th WR - 164th overall
Greg Childs - 26th WR - 213th overall

Grant Freeman - 37th OT - 457th overall

Jake Bequette - 15th DE - 174th overall

Jerry Franklin - 10th ILB - 204th overall

Jerico Nelson - 23rd SS - 545th overall

Tramain Thomas - 7th FS - 176th overall

Isaac Madison - 73rd CB - 711th overall

2013 gets very interesting...

T. Wilson and Hamilton could be top two or three in their positions assuming some of the Juniors in front of them declares this year.

HiggiePiggy

Man 9 players. That would be pretty cool if all 9 got drafted. 
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swinemaster

That can't be accurate.  They have four Boise St. players in the top 125.  How can that be when they are so far beneath us???

Pro Scouts are clueless!

;)

alohawg

At 4.38 in the 40 nobody listed above Joe on that list is faster.
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dsf

Boise had two DE's better than anyone on our team...they ripped Georgia and others.  Our DE's did not produce this year.

Danny J

J wright is going to be a steal for somebody. Great hands, speed and runs very good routes. He will play on sunday for sure.

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: dsf on December 24, 2011, 08:04:26 pm
Boise had two DE's better than anyone on our team...they ripped Georgia and others.  Our DE's did not produce this year.

Man all these Razorback fans really must hate the razorbacks. 
If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

HogNdazs

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on December 24, 2011, 08:14:03 pm
Man all these Razorback fans really must hate the razorbacks.

Is that not true? I love are hogs but those Bosie DE's are good.

Pork Twain

HOLD ON!!!  Where is Niles Green on that list?
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HiggiePiggy

Quote from: Kick2Crash on December 24, 2011, 08:18:30 pm
Is that not true? I love are hogs but those Bosie DE's are good.

I think we have some better players.  It's a huge difference playing in the SEC than it is in the WAC.

What you are saying is they are better than any of our players. That is pretty big thing to say going off the SOS these guys played compared to the SOS that we have played.  We on here are always saying oh that team is better than us or those players are better than any of ours.   

If they get drafted before any razorback does that mean they are better than all of our players?  It is just amazing how many fans we have that hate on our team so much. 
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SixtySecondsOfPitino

It'll be exciting seeing Nelson at SS full-time.  I think he'll excel.

drizzle

Did anyone see Knile anywhere (or anywhen) on that list? He wasn't in the 2012, 2013, or 2014 lists for RB as far as I could see, and both DJ and Ronnie Wingo were listed for 2013. Regardless of the internal discussions on the board as to the relative production of DJ and Knile, I think all of us would place Knile above Wingo on the productivity chart, yet he's nowhere to be found.

Baffling.

Lysol

Quote from: BeoPig™ on December 24, 2011, 08:29:20 pm
HOLD ON!!!  Where is Niles Green on that list?
I think you mean Dennis Green? He should project well in next years

merry christmas compadres

 

jcam61

Quote from: drizzle on December 25, 2011, 12:58:50 am
Did anyone see Knile anywhere (or anywhen) on that list? He wasn't in the 2012, 2013, or 2014 lists for RB as far as I could see, and both DJ and Ronnie Wingo were listed for 2013. Regardless of the internal discussions on the board as to the relative production of DJ and Knile, I think all of us would place Knile above Wingo on the productivity chart, yet he's nowhere to be found.

Baffling.

Sort by school and it makes it a lot easier.

2014
Alvin Bailey   OG           1     
Travis Swanson   C   1

2015      
Kody Walker   FB   1

Number 1 position rank for three players.  I knew they were good, but are they really that good? 

bennyl08

Joe and Jarius are the only 2 w/ a chance of being drafted who run a sub 4.4 forty. I think both are taken by the 5th round.
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When is the Combine? I'm ready to see these guys show out.
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Quote from: Ftsmithmike on December 26, 2011, 06:11:57 pm
When is the Combine? I'm ready to see these guys show out.

The last weekend in February.

Oklahawg

How many are drafted each year? 224?

If so, that provides some perspective.
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bigred223

Wright, Adams, Childs, Bequette and Thomas will all be drafted. No doubt.

In regards to Swanson and Bailey. Yes, they are that good. If our tackles play up to their level next year, we will be very good.

razorbackSAX

Quote from: Oklahawg on December 27, 2011, 01:54:47 pm
How many are drafted each year? 224?

If so, that provides some perspective.

I think it's a few more than 224 due to consolation picks due to restricted free agents and such.

nextlevel

Quote from: alohawg on December 24, 2011, 07:23:59 pm
At 4.38 in the 40 nobody listed above Joe on that list is faster.

Too bad Al Davis is no longer around to make Joe a first round draft pick...
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Jackrabbit Hog

I think the guy on the list that will help his draft stock the most at the combine - and will therefore be drafted much higher than his current projection - is Franklin.  He reminds me a lot of Quentin Caver, who got a few years with the Eagles out of a great senior year with the Hogs.
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I hope you are right Jackrabbit, but I don't think Franklins' measureables will help him much. Q was such a freakish athlete that the combine really helped him.
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ErieHog

Quote from: razorbackSAX on December 27, 2011, 02:16:26 pm
I think it's a few more than 224 due to consolation picks due to restricted free agents and such.

Between 252 and 256 players have been drafted every year since 2003.  It's a pretty small range.
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jimmur74

Who is "Jay" Wright? I assume you mean Jarius who is sometimes referred to as "j" his first intial

Quote from: GalaHawg on December 24, 2011, 06:03:02 pm
This is a fun website to play with...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012

You can re-sort the list by changing the year and player position on the top right corner.

According to this...

Joe Adams - 12th WR - 110th overall
Jay Wright - 20th WR - 164th overall
Greg Childs - 26th WR - 213th overall

Grant Freeman - 37th OT - 457th overall

Jake Bequette - 15th DE - 174th overall

Jerry Franklin - 10th ILB - 204th overall

Jerico Nelson - 23rd SS - 545th overall

Tramain Thomas - 7th FS - 176th overall

Isaac Madison - 73rd CB - 711th overall

2013 gets very interesting...

T. Wilson and Hamilton could be top two or three in their positions assuming some of the Juniors in front of them declares this year.

ErieHog

Quote from: jimmur74 on December 30, 2011, 04:32:51 pm
Who is "Jay" Wright? I assume you mean Jarius who is sometimes referred to as "j" his first intial


Jarius will sign things as 'Jay', as an aside.   
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regi

Quote from: GalaHawg on December 24, 2011, 06:03:02 pm
This is a fun website to play with...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012

You can re-sort the list by changing the year and player position on the top right corner.

According to this...

Joe Adams - 12th WR - 110th overall
Jay Wright - 20th WR - 164th overall
Greg Childs - 26th WR - 213th overall

Grant Freeman - 37th OT - 457th overall

Jake Bequette - 15th DE - 174th overall

Jerry Franklin - 10th ILB - 204th overall

Jerico Nelson - 23rd SS - 545th overall

Tramain Thomas - 7th FS - 176th overall

Isaac Madison - 73rd CB - 711th overall

2013 gets very interesting...

T. Wilson and Hamilton could be top two or three in their positions assuming some of the Juniors in front of them declares this year.

Adams special teams and recieving value will not let him out of the 2nd round
Wright is just so small, 4th round may be his ceiling
Childs needs some strong workouts, 5th or 6th round, but could jump up.
Bequette could be a 3-4 or 4-3 end, 4th, maybe 3rd round
Franklin. 5th or 6th round
Thomas. 5th or 6th round
The rest, are free agents.

GalaHawg

Quote from: regi on December 30, 2011, 06:43:30 pm
Adams special teams and recieving value will not let him out of the 2nd round
Wright is just so small, 4th round may be his ceiling
Childs needs some strong workouts, 5th or 6th round, but could jump up.
Bequette could be a 3-4 or 4-3 end, 4th, maybe 3rd round
Franklin. 5th or 6th round
Thomas. 5th or 6th round
The rest, are free agents.

Mostly agreed. I expect Grant Freeman to impress some people in the work outs with his size and feet quickness --- the strength issue is not too hard to fix.

On the other hand, Tramain may fell to free agency.

ErieHog

Quote from: GalaHawg on December 30, 2011, 07:25:23 pm
Mostly agreed. I expect Grant Freeman to impress some people in the work outs with his size and feet quickness --- the strength issue is not too hard to fix.

On the other hand, Tramain may fell to free agency.

Tramain is our best likelihood to sneak up the boards.    There's a reason why he's only listed as two slots behind Jake.
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ADAM_713

Quote from: jimmur74 on December 30, 2011, 04:32:51 pm
Who is "Jay" Wright? I assume you mean Jarius who is sometimes referred to as "j" his first intial

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GalaHawg

Quote from: jimmur74 on December 30, 2011, 04:32:51 pm
Who is "Jay" Wright? I assume you mean Jarius who is sometimes referred to as "j" his first intial


Seriously? I wonder why he calls himself Jay_wright4 then? I guess he should have asked you.

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/Jay_wright4

Farrestor

Quote...they ripped Georgia and others

By others he means the powerhouses Wyoming, Colorado St., UNLV, New Mexico State, Toledo.etc.......

And Georgia was the only good win they had and that was early in the season, it's a good thing Georgia didn't play us, LSU, and ALabama or they would have went 7-6.  SO your reasoning is a little skewed.
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Jarius Wright has the chance to really move up the Board.  He is a very good WR, and he should do very well in the NFL because of his route running ability. 

It is very perplexing as to why they have Morris Claiborne so far up the Board.  There are many tall and physical WRs in the NFL, and I wouldn't be surprised if Claiborne has some difficulty with those tall and physical WRs in the NFL.

To me, the 2 players that could very well have an immediate impact in the NFL are Courtney Upshaw and Mark Barron.  Upshaw is very physical and is very difficult to block due to his mobility.  Barron completely shuts down his side of the field for WRs, and if the ball is run near Barron's area of the field, the ball carrier usually pays a tremendous price.  Barron could very well be the most NFL ready player in the entire Draft.  Here is some video I located of Upshaw and Barron.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgVic3h5T3U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPErRW8t1A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUPrI8sI63A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUpCHIkvckc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QO4n5mjlo&feature=related

I am glad that we don't have to face Upshaw and Barron any more. 





       

bigdaddyhawg

Quote from: dsf on December 24, 2011, 08:04:26 pm
Our DE's did not produce this year.

Inaccurate statement.  When he was healthy, Jake was very productive this year.

He 'took over' two games -- Auburn and USC.  He was the dominating force and a big part of those two victories.
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HoustonwehaveaProblem

2013 should see Kiero being taken as the #1 FB. Dude is an absolute beast, I can't imagine their being a better FB.

bennyl08

Quote from: regi on December 30, 2011, 06:43:30 pm
Adams special teams and recieving value will not let him out of the 2nd round
Wright is just so small, 4th round may be his ceiling
Childs needs some strong workouts, 5th or 6th round, but could jump up.
Bequette could be a 3-4 or 4-3 end, 4th, maybe 3rd round
Franklin. 5th or 6th round
Thomas. 5th or 6th round
The rest, are free agents.

Look at Mike Wallace, DJax, Welker, none of them are big proto-recievers, but all are extremely valuable to their team. Jarius runs the crispest routes and has better hands than Joe. With the NFL converting to the spread, receivers like him will start to be coveted. I'd put him anywhere from 2nd at best to 5 at the absolute worst.

I'd give an outside 7th round pick to Nelson. With the spread comes the need for hybrid players. While he didn't have the best senior season, he had very good sophomore and junior campaigns. Thomas and Franklin could also rise. I'd give Franklin a small chance at being taken as early as the 5th round. Thomas has been a very good player and if he can show scouts that he has gotten over his shoulder injury that has been nagging at him all season (hence his time on the bench at times this season) then he could move into 3-4 round status.
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Quote from: jimmur74 on December 30, 2011, 04:32:51 pm
Who is "Jay" Wright? I assume you mean Jarius who is sometimes referred to as "j" his first intial
He's referred to as "Jay" as a nickname, or a shortened name for "Jarius." Next time, don't be such a d-bag and do your homework. Read more, post less..... Err, something.
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Look for the Colts and Pats to try to pick up Joe or Jarius.
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Quote from: bigdaddyhawg on December 31, 2011, 09:33:15 am
Inaccurate statement.  When he was healthy, Jake was very productive this year.

He 'took over' two games -- Auburn and USC.  He was the dominating force and a big part of those two victories.

Bequette hardly played against Auburn. Against South Carolina, Tennessee, and Miss State, though, he record 7.0 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. Very impressive when he's healthy.