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May 12, 2024, 11:37:04 am

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Quote from: Philip Seaton on Today at 01:40:34 amReally on state employees? Arkansas has to have a balanced budget by law. Say cuts have to made across the board, include higher education. You lay off staff and not athletes, how is that going to look?

What cuts are going to happen? The money is already there from the football program. You aren't cutting teachers salaries or laying off cops to fund these athletes. Their salary comes from the 180+ million pool that they themselves are bringing in. No other pies are going to get dipped into.

The only 'staff' that would get laid off would be the private tutors that all the football players get. Maybe some of the support staff can't be afforded, especially in the non-revenue sports. But again, that's all coming internally from the athletics pie.

QuoteInsurance and benefits for life from the state? Sorry no. Taxpayers should not have that burden (and don't start with the television money, because that isn't going to pay those benefits for life).

Wait, I was a state employee as a grad student. You are telling me that I get health insurance for free for life? Nobody told me that... Those people made me pay extra just so that I wouldn't lapse in health insurance over the summer. Who do I talk to about this!

There was one poster here who mentioned that would be a good idea. Do realize that players currently get zero health insurance as benefits. Sure, the school offers a fairly crappy plan to students that they can pay for, but in general, they are on their own for any injuries they receive. The hogs might be one of the rare exceptions with UAMS, but that's not the norm.

QuoteAlso do the athletes want to state employees subject to FOIA disclosures? There are cans of worms being opened that most are not thinking about.

Again, grad students are employees of the state and they get paid in a year what the average razorback football player would likely make in a month if they were an employee here. I've never heard anybody say, man, I want to get a PhD, but I'm just not sure, being subject to FOIA and everything...

You make it out like being a state employee is some crazy thing, but it really isn't. You get paid less, work harder, and have higher stress than the equivalent jobs in the private sector, but it's not like you are suddenly James Bond or something.

QuoteAll I can if NIL is not enough then sorry. They are receiving a lot, more than their classmates whom a majority will graduate with a burden of paying off loans that will set them back years. Sure some will become professional athletes, but the others will graduate with the help of free tutors, free room and board, free meals, celebrity status etc., all the way a lot their classmates struggle to get by.

And if their classmate tutors for the university, guess what, they are a state employee and get paid. If their classmates gets involved in research for a lab, they become state employees and get paid, even if they are already on full scholarship.

Every other student on campus who helps the university make money gets paid for doing so beyond their scholarships.

If you actually care about their classmates struggling, then push for congress to make colleges tuition free. Push for congress to make it illegal for student fees to be levied for athletics and make it illegal to use taxpayer money for athletics. If you actually care about the struggling classmates, push for coach's salaries to be capped at like 100k, ban schools from upgrading equipment or facilities unless it is a actual safety issue (subject to audit) and funnel that 180 million back to scholarships and such.

Otherwise, you don't actually care that the other students are struggling, you just don't want to see those specific students get the money THEY'VE earned.

QuoteLook the college model is almost done. It can't sustain this. I tire of all this television revenue talk, because what that pays for is sports that don't generate revenue. Coaches make big bucks, sure, and they and their agents are to blame too. Athletes see the coaches getting paid and want their slice too, but in the end it is all self-defeating.

And just think all of this started because of a video game. The irony of that.

It isn't self-defeating. Sports is entertainment and people are willing to spend money on entertainment. Would I rather kindergarten teachers make 20 million a year and actors get paid 25k a year? Sure. Would it be better if sanitation workers got paid 8 million a year and professional athletes 35k? Absolutely. Would it be better if researchers and scientists got paid millions of dollars and had fans clamoring to listen to their results while musicians struggled to apply for government art grants? Sure.

But that's not the society we live in. Research isn't sexy. Sanitation isn't sexy. Education isn't sexy. Sports, movies, and music are, and that's where people spend their money. We can't control that.

What we can do is collectively make sure that people get a fair shake to go into whatever pie shop they want, and once their, be able to get as much pie as they earn.
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Quote from: onebadrubi on Today at 11:24:33 amNeither has been given anywhere near the attempts Be  has. I'd be curious to see where those two hitters are today given the attempts like Stovall got his freshman season.  I think they'd be coming around and we'd see huge growth out of them, but just opinion
Don't disagree, but I'm not sure when you try that experiment. BM was hitting as good as anyone at the start of SEC play, and although there has been some drop off, he's continued to have success at a rate higher than most other options.
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Quote from: wps1 on May 10, 2024, 07:37:15 pmNothing on the new assistants, but we did acknowledge that Coach Fritz is on her way to LOVB and leaving the program. We've known this for a while. It probably means the announcement of the new coaches will be soon.

https://twitter.com/RazorbackVB/status/1788990097175568715

I am keeping my eyes and ears peeled. Seems a bit strange, though, because Coach Fritz was removed from the website a while ago.
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Yeah, not many of those line drive hitters going anywhere post season.  Wonder how they determine that percentage.  Does it mean that when do get a hit, 25% percent of the time its a line drive????????
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Jump Ball / Re: The Emerging Model in Coll...
Last post by jbcarol - Today at 11:28:22 am
Some things are possible with Cal

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Quote from: HogBroker on Today at 11:11:03 amChances are you are correct. But we only slug .404 as a team. We have zero candidates for a prototypical 1B. However, it is debatable where he should be in the lineup With such a low slug%.

It's unfortunate Wagner didn't work out at all. Ben is a solid defender and one of the 9 best offensive players so he has to play. But you're right, he needs to probably hit leadoff
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: When looking for DTs
Last post by Hogo Piglitz - Today at 11:27:45 am
Quote from: bennyl08 on Today at 11:07:26 amYou keep using that word, yet you keep demonstrating that you do not know it's meaning.

Tell me, where is it a 'fact' that he didn't even move to campus until the day before the BYU add/drop date? Where is it a 'fact' that he missed the entire first week of mandatory workouts?

247 says that is the date that he officially enrolled, but that a) the only fact there is that it is what 247 reported. B) What do you think enrollment means? That's just when the paperwork gets finalized. Being a transfer student, it's not uncommon for your paperwork to take longer to go through.

What do you think is more likely? That he was on campus, working out, taking classes, and just waiting for the paperwork to go through or... that he waited until the 2nd to last day to even arrive to campus, sign up for classes, miss the first week of workouts, and all that? Better yet, don't answer that, because sometimes it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


Only fool here is you Chad you aren't a member of the university until you are officially enrolled I know you aren't aware of such things because like you have said yourself your a a high-school coach.

Transfers don't enroll or show up until the 2nd semester begins which in BYU's case would have been the week of the 15th...you know because of Christmas break and all that.

You definitely perform some amazing mental gymnastics to provide evidence that you haven't a clue...kudos
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Jump Ball / Re: Devo To Okie St
Last post by secfan30 - Today at 11:27:27 am
Quote from: Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson on Today at 08:56:19 amI dunno if that's a good move for him or not, but Stillwater.  Yuck

I always thought Stillwater was the only decent looking place in Oklahoma.
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Quote from: hogfan10 on Today at 11:15:40 amHe's a better hitter than both of those options, and most certainly better at 1b.

Neither has been given anywhere near the attempts Be  has. I'd be curious to see where those two hitters are today given the attempts like Stovall got his freshman season.  I think they'd be coming around and we'd see huge growth out of them, but just opinion
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: New walk-on Wr
Last post by Tuskeroni Soprano - Today at 11:23:22 am
Quote from: Kris P. Bacon on Yesterday at 01:27:45 pm

Isn't that anyone(adult male) who signed up to post on a sports message board talking about and arguing about young people whom you've never met and probably will never meet? There is kind of a nerd component to this.
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