Rivals Recruiting Ranking - Hogs @ #25

[Michael D Huff AIA]

Just saw that Rivals has an updated list of recruiting classes ahead of national signing day.  Schools of note...

#1 Alabama          3199
#3 Georgia           2825
#5 Oklahoma         2551
#7 LSU                  2406
#8 Texas A&M        2257
#11 Tennessee       2040
#15 Auburn            1861
#17 Clemson         1826
#19 Florida            1752
#24 Kentucky         1708
#25 Arkansas         1669
#27 Louisville         1612
#28 Washington      1604
#32 Mississippi St.  1566
#33 Baylor              1530
#35 Oklahoma St.   1501
#37 Texas              1467
#45 Wisconsin         1401
#60 Vanderbilt       1140
#70 Ole Miss          1020

This list puts us 9th in the SEC, but ahead of some other schools that had good years (Louisville, Washington, Oklahoma St.). 

Discuss...

[Bubba's Bruisers]

LOL on OM.

[Michael D Huff AIA]

LOL on OM.

How the mighty cheating have fallen.

[rzrbk4life]

Surprised Clemson is at #17 considering they are coming off a Natty. Aren't they normally in the top 10?

[Jackrabbit Hog]

It looks like the typical average recruiting year for Arkansas football.  I'm sure just about any 5-10 year period you sampled since recruiting rankings began will have Arkansas ranked somewhere between 25 and 35 in the country, 8 and 11 in the SEC.  So we are doing exactly what we do every year.

[EastexHawg]

I'm not here to debate any recruiting service over another, but I just glanced at Scout and found one thing interesting.  Arkansas, ranked 27th, has 5 JUCO commits among its 24.  The entire top 25 in the Scout rankings have a total of 16 JUCOs.

Seems like someone is maybe feeling a sense of urgency.

[LRRandy]

Just saw that Rivals has an updated list of recruiting classes ahead of national signing day.  Schools of note...

#1 Alabama          3199
#3 Georgia           2825
#5 Oklahoma         2551
#7 LSU                  2406
#8 Texas A&M        2257
#11 Tennessee       2040
#15 Auburn            1861
#17 Clemson         1826
#19 Florida            1752
#24 Kentucky         1708
#25 Arkansas         1669
#27 Louisville         1612
#28 Washington      1604
#32 Mississippi St.  1566
#33 Baylor              1530
#35 Oklahoma St.   1501
#37 Texas              1467
#45 Wisconsin         1401
#60 Vanderbilt       1140
#70 Ole Miss          1020

This list puts us 9th in the SEC, but ahead of some other schools that had good years (Louisville, Washington, Oklahoma St.). 

Discuss...

what, no link?

[Bubba's Bruisers]

No. 25 is probably about right.  Right in line with most years.  I think the 4 major services had us ranked a few days ago between 22-27.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

what, no link?

Who cares. tosu is probably #2 on most any site.  Maybe #1 on some.

[870hogfan]

Maybe Burt wants to turn us into the SEC's version of Kansas State.

Who is Burt?

[jkstock04]

I thought consensus around here was that rivals was a joke not worth looking at?

In all seriousness though...247 is probably the best in my opinion. How they do the composite is a fair way of measurement. I just laugh...every year around signing day whichever service has us ranked the highest is "the best one."

[TX HOG]

Baylor at 33? Wow

[Deep Shoat]

every year around signing day whichever service has us ranked the highest is "the best one."

Only to the uneducated.  Most of us prefer 247 because of the Composite and the fact that they have the largest and most experienced group of evaluators.

Why do you insist on basing all your descriptions of Hogville on the lowest common denominators?

[ricepig]

Only to the uneducated.  Most of us prefer 247 because of the Composite and the fact that they have the largest and most experienced group of evaluators.

Why do you insist on basing all your descriptions of Hogville on the lowest common denominators?

Well, they also give kids 4* without ever seeing them based on offers, too.

[Arkansas Fan]

All that matters is how they perform on the field...

[TransAmHawg]

Who is Burt?

Google Burt the Conqueror

[Fort Dweller]

                                                                                                                                                                                               




Google Burt the Conqueror

I AM THE MACHINE!

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Well, they also give kids 4* without ever seeing them based on offers, too.

The most credible thing they could do. 

[hogcard1964]

Same thing every year. 

[jmark]

we've got to start reaching for a higher recruiting rank

[Jackrabbit Hog]

we've got to start reaching for a higher recruiting rank

Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars.

[Pig in the Pokey]

LOL on OM.

where are all those liars who claimed Freezus was a great recruiter? Looks like Barney was the man...

[Pig in the Pokey]

Who is Burt?

the rotund dude dat plays da bob marley, man

[Pig in the Pokey]

Burt beat Bobby lol

[pigroots]

Baylor ahead of Texas is shocking. Hogs are in good shape as they consistently are in the top 25 getting players that fit their system

[Sed76]

25th? We have the freaking Catfish Hole for goodness sakes. That should help us be able to out recruit Kentucky one would think.

[colbs]

LOL on Rivals.

#30 on 247 Composite behind both Miss State & Kentucky... and Louisville.  #11 in the SEC.

Ole Miss wallowing around at #53 with only 14 commits, but their Avg Recruit Ranking is higher than ours and significantly higher than any of the teams around them in the overall Composite.

They're clearly not as good as Bama and some of our other SEC peers when it comes to Pay for Play, but I don't really fault them for trying.  Go big or go home.

The composite is confusing to me.  Arkansas is ranked 29, not 30 in the composite rankings.  But ESPN ranks the hogs 22, 247 ranks 22, Rivals 25, and Scout 27.

[Inhogswetrust]

Baylor at 33? Wow

Baptist always pass the collection plate to pay for their "services providers".

[Inhogswetrust]

25th? We have the freaking Catfish Hole for goodness sakes. That should help us be able to out recruit Kentucky one would think.

Kentucky has bourbon...........

[HF#1]

8th in the league.  Probably where we finish next season.

[Michael D Huff AIA]

I thought consensus around here was that rivals was a joke not worth looking at?

In all seriousness though...247 is probably the best in my opinion. How they do the composite is a fair way of measurement. I just laugh...every year around signing day whichever service has us ranked the highest is "the best one."

I'm not necessarily a "consensus" sort of guy.

[DeltaBoy]

We still need to improve to get better.

[hogcard1964]

We still need to improve to get better.

We're just not going to.

[Hogwild]

LOL on Rivals.

#30 on 247 Composite behind both Miss State & Kentucky... and Louisville.  #11 in the SEC.

Ole Miss wallowing around at #53 with only 14 commits, but their Avg Recruit Ranking is higher than ours and significantly higher than any of the teams around them in the overall Composite.

They're clearly not as good as Bama and some of our other SEC peers when it comes to Pay for Play, but I don't really fault them for trying.  Go big or go home.

There is no guarantee that Ole Miss will keep those 14 commits, State is going hard at a couple of them, not sure if Gay is still listed as an Ole Miss commitment, but he will chose between State & LSU tomorrow.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2017/1/27/14413288/mississippi-state-dd-bowie-ole-miss-national-signing-day

[jcbville]

The Clemson program alone should make people realize that you don't have to be even in the top 10 in recruiting to win a natty. Top 25-30 maybe. Recognizing and developing talent will out do raw star power every time.

[Pork Twain]

About where we always have been and about where we will always be.  We just have to continue to have a low miss-rate and develop our talent.

[B501]

The Clemson program alone should make people realize that you don't have to be even in the top 10 in recruiting to win a natty. Top 25-30 maybe. Recognizing and developing talent will out do raw star power every time.

clemson is stacked with 4 and 5 star talent tho

2017 national recruiting rank 13 with nine ★★★★ and two ★★★★★ 
2016 national recruiting rank 11 with twelve ★★★★ and one ★★★★★
2015 national recruiting rank 9 with nine ★★★★ and three ★★★★★
2014 national recruiting rank 17 with ten ★★★★
2013 national recruiting rank 15 with ten  ★★★★ and one ★★★★★

[Pork Twain]

The Clemson program alone should make people realize that you don't have to be even in the top 10 in recruiting to win a natty. Top 25-30 maybe. Recognizing and developing talent will out do raw star power every time.

Lets not pretend that Clemson's roster is not stacked with talent from top to bottom.

[Atlhogfan1]

The eye opening numbers, and shouldn't be now but still are for some, come when you segregate out teams by conference and for example find the Hogs 10th and see a program like Washington 4th in the Pac 12 and a Penn St 3rd in the B1G yet ranked in our range overall.  (not sure of the actual exact numbers of these teams or conferences as I haven't looked yet for this year)

[The_Iceman]

There are not many teams above us that I believe we should be beating on a consistent basis in recruiting. We are probably over performing when you factor in geography.

[jcbville]

clemson is stacked with 4 and 5 star talent tho

2017 national recruiting rank 13 with nine ★★★★ and two ★★★★★ 
2016 national recruiting rank 11 with twelve ★★★★ and one ★★★★★
2015 national recruiting rank 9 with nine ★★★★ and three ★★★★★
2014 national recruiting rank 17 with ten ★★★★
2013 national recruiting rank 15 with ten  ★★★★ and one ★★★★★

Stacked? Yet they barely break the top 10 once? It clearly points to great development and utilization of the talent they do get. 

[hogcard1964]

I just hope we have one or two moves left that'll be made by tomorrow.  These days are always a disappointment.

[hogsanity]

Stacked? Yet they barely break the top 10 once? It clearly points to great development and utilization of the talent they do get. 

no, there classes are top loaded, previous 4 classes had 41 4 stars and 5 5 star players. The bottom of those classes brought them down, but they got plenty of talent in those 4 classes.

[Hogwild]

There are not many teams above us that I believe we should be beating on a consistent basis in recruiting. We are probably over performing when you factor in geography.

You can't convince me that the 11th ranked recruiting class in the conference is over performing. Two of the three schools below us are under NCAA investigation and the other is Vandy.

[Atlhogfan1]

You can't convince me that the 11th ranked recruiting class in the conference is over performing. Two of the three schools below us are under NCAA investigation and the other is Vandy.

10th- I'm assuming Mizzou is below and SC is above.

Who should we be outperforming in the rankings out of the 9 above us?  UK?  Ok.  They do have location but not an emphasis on football. 

[Hogwild]

10th- I'm assuming Mizzou is below and SC is above.

Who should we be outperforming in the rankings out of the 9 above us?  UK?  Ok.  They do have location but not an emphasis on football.

As of today we are 11th, only Missouri, Ole Miss, and Vandy are below us.

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=SEC

[theshiva]

We should never be behind Kentucky, MSU, Vandy, Mizzou, etc

Hopefully the Calloway bump will put us over Kentucky and MSU on 247.

[Hog Fan...DOH!]

You can't convince me that the 11th ranked recruiting class in the conference is over performing. Two of the three schools below us are under NCAA investigation and the other is Vandy.

This ranking is the same as it is just about every year. 

BUT, Arkansas had the majority of its class committed early this year-- presumably, that means the coaches took kids they wanted and had recruited for a long time.  I do think that's a positive, and really not TOO much spin.   

[Pork Twain]

The eye opening numbers, and shouldn't be now but still are for some, come when you segregate out teams by conference and for example find the Hogs 10th and see a program like Washington 4th in the Pac 12 and a Penn St 3rd in the B1G yet ranked in our range overall.  (not sure of the actual exact numbers of these teams or conferences as I haven't looked yet for this year)

I looked at where we would finish in other conferences based on our 247 national composite ranking.

We have been in the SEC for long enough to do some serious trend analysis and I am still surprised that after all this time and pretty consistent results, people still expect something out of character to become the new norm.

[Sivad]

LOL on OM.

Indeed.