1994 UA or 1997 UF?

[UAalumUALRlaw]

This is the Raycom question of the night. . . What do y'all think? How would the two teams match up?

[UAalumUALRlaw]

btw, I realize I said 97 UF, I meant 2007. . . lol

[UAalumUALRlaw]

btw, I realize I said 97 UF, I meant 2007. . . lol

Anyone know how to edit the poll title?

[benbrown]

I actually really had to think about that one.  What made the difference for me was the fact that one of the stipulations is that it is a 7 game series.  We would wear them down with our style over a 7 game series.  No doubt about it. 

Now, if it was only one game, I'm not so sure.  Corey Brewer and Taureen Green present match-up problems and Noah and Horford could definitely hold their own against Corliss and our two young centers.  Of course, I still have to go with the hogs!

[NuttinItUp]

Anyone know how to edit the poll title?

Edit your post and you can edit the title of the thread.

[ErieHog]

Depends entirely on the rules used.

Any rules set since 2000, and 2007 Florida wins.  Before 2000, and the 94 Hogs win.

[PorkFryRice]

Depends entirely on the rules used.

Any rules set since 2000, and 2007 Florida wins.  Before 2000, and the 94 Hogs win.

when did the hand check become emphasized???

[XPS]

Option c 1996 UK team wipes the floor with both teams...

[JoePaul03]

Horford and Corliss would cancel each other out. Their bigger guards would give us some problems, but where we had a couple of guys (McDaniel & Beck) who were great PGs/ballhandlers, I don't remember them having any solid ballhandlers besides Green. That would be a problem for Florida, because our press would wear him out and he'd need some help. The constant pressing would also help us because it would neutralize one of their biggest weapons that season: Lee Humphrey. No way could he hang in there and handle the ball on the press. Clint and Corey would eat him alive. And, when they did break the press and set up a halfcourt offense, we could sag inside if necessary because without Humphrey in there, we wouldn't have to respect their three-point shooting so much. We might have problems scoring though, because Brewer would probably lock down Thurman. If we didn't get a handful of easy buckets, it might be tough to get enough points to win. We'd really need our three point shooters like Al D. to come through.

A few things going for us...If they put Noah on Corliss, Big Nasty would break him in half, so they'd have to put Horford on him. This would mean Noah would be on Robinson/Wilson, who both would have a big height/weight/strength advantage on him. Or, if we wanted to, we could put Stewart out there, and his three-point range would pull Noah away from the basket, which would open up the inside for drive and kicks and would get their best defender and rebounder away from the rim. I really worry about how we'd match up with Brewer, though. I can't think of who we would have put on him? Scotty? Davor? I don't like those matchups for us.

Hard to say who wins...If they break the press fairly easily, I'd say UF. If we hit our threes and found a way to control Brewer, and not let Humphrey get involved, I like our chances.

It would sure be fun to see, there's no doubt about that.

[JoePaul03]

Option c 1996 UK team wipes the floor with both teams...

Option D, 1992 Duke beats them...We could that forever

[GeneKeadysRug]

Horford and Corliss would cancel each other out.

were you around in 94? nobody cancelled out big nasty.

[JoePaul03]

Horford and Corliss would cancel each other out.

were you around in 94? nobody cancelled out big nasty.

Yes, I was around in '94, and I'm as big of a Corliss fan as you'll find, but I'm also not blind. Horford was a beast just like Corliss was. Big Al is also at least two or three inches taller than Big Nasty, so I'm thinking Horford could at least hold his own.

[Bababooey]

Yes, I was around in '94, and I'm as big of a Corliss fan as you'll find, but I'm also not blind. Horford was a beast just like Corliss was. Big Al is also at least two or three inches taller than Big Nasty, so I'm thinking Horford could at least hold his own.

Ask rasheed Wallace how being 5 inches taller than Big Nasty helped him in the 95 Final Four. Not much.

[Hog-Corleone]

Did Corliss not hold his own against Shaq when he was at LSU?  I seem to remember that he had a good game or two against him as well.

[webbgem]

Option D, 1992 Duke beats them...We could that forever

My turn, My turn

Option E - Undefeated Indiana

[Hogimus Prime]

Did Corliss not hold his own against Shaq when he was at LSU?  I seem to remember that he had a good game or two against him as well.

Shaq was gone by then

[Hogimus Prime]

Ask rasheed Wallace how being 5 inches taller than Big Nasty helped him in the 95 Final Four. Not much.

or Eric Montross in '93.

[ccarter23000]

It was Big O that held his own against Shaq. Just a little before Corliss's time.

[ErieHog]

when did the hand check become emphasized???

Two phases; 1996 saw the existing hand check emphasized, and 1999 saw a revision of the rule that expanded illegal use of the hands as a defender to gain position.   Essentially, these did a lot to take the edge off of the traditional Arkansas press.

[PorkFryRice]

Two phases; 1996 saw the existing hand check emphasized, and 1999 saw a revision of the rule that expanded illegal use of the hands as a defender to gain position.   Essentially, these did a lot to take the edge off of the traditional Arkansas press.

So, this rule killed our program?

[ErieHog]

So, this rule killed our program?

It surely didn't help.  It really changed the types of guards we recruited--  we went with slasher scorers like Reid, Ferguson and later, Modica.   Previously, guards like Beck, Crawford, and McDaniel were as much about strong hands and leverage defense as they were about scoring the ball.

Even if you watch Mike Anderson's bunch at Missouri, what they employ isn't '40 minutes of Hell' basketball; it's subtly different, relies on less on-the-ball pressure, and works harder to shut down passing lanes.

The day of the old Rollin With Nolan Defense is long dead.

[PorkFryRice]

It surely didn't help.  It really changed the types of guards we recruited--  we went with slasher scorers like Reid, Ferguson and later, Modica.   Previously, guards like Beck, Crawford, and McDaniel were as much about strong hands and leverage defense as they were about scoring the ball.

Even if you watch Mike Anderson's bunch at Missouri, what they employ isn't '40 minutes of Hell' basketball; it's subtly different, relies on less on-the-ball pressure, and works harder to shut down passing lanes.

The day of the old Rollin With Nolan Defense is long dead.

I guess that was the NCAA's way of punishing Nolan for changing college basketball.  I wonder if any other coach's style was affected that much by the hand check rule.

[Hogimus Prime]

I guess that was the NCAA's way of punishing Nolan for changing college basketball.  I wonder if any other coach's style was affected that much by the hand check rule.

probably not.  except for the Iba from Oklahoma State(I cant remember what the name was when he coached there)


i'm gonna go with the 94 team.   While Florida was good and they had some good weapons, the 94 Hogs knew how to win and could beat you several different ways.

[ErieHog]

I guess that was the NCAA's way of punishing Nolan for changing college basketball.  I wonder if any other coach's style was affected that much by the hand check rule.

A couple, usually from the Don Haskins coaching tree at UTEP;  Rick Petino had to revamp his style of pressing defense after he returned to the college ranks as well.    It was also the beginning of the Arizona decline, aside from a couple year window where they signed a sheetload of NBA players within a short space of time.

[JoePaul03]

Props to ErieHog, I've enjoyed reading your thoughts/info on this topic...

[BigHog396]

I guess that was the NCAA's way of punishing Nolan for changing college basketball.  I wonder if any other coach's style was affected that much by the hand check rule.

No, it was the NCAA's way of saying it was time for the officials to start calling a foul a foul again.  It had always been a foul by defenition, they just quit calling it for a number of years.

[hogtheball]

It surely didn't help.  It really changed the types of guards we recruited--  we went with slasher scorers like Reid, Ferguson and later, Modica.   Previously, guards like Beck, Crawford, and McDaniel were as much about strong hands and leverage defense as they were about scoring the ball.

Even if you watch Mike Anderson's bunch at Missouri, what they employ isn't '40 minutes of Hell' basketball; it's subtly different, relies on less on-the-ball pressure, and works harder to shut down passing lanes.

The day of the old Rollin With Nolan Defense is long dead.

Actually, the "40 Minutes of Hell" you're referring to was gone before we won our championship.  The championship team was an adequate pressing team with a much better half-court game.

[ErieHog]

Actually, the "40 Minutes of Hell" you're referring to was gone before we won our championship.  The championship team was an adequate pressing team with a much better half-court game.

The halfcourt trap was extremely strong, and the guards used their hands to direct the flow of traffic.   The 94 and 95 teams were much more selective in their pressing of the full and 3/4 court, but were hard after it, especially when McDaniel and or Crawford would check in.

[dpan]

There is really no comparison.  The 94' Hogs did not play in a watered down NCAA or SEC.  The Hogs would have won 95' had it not been for the cheatin crew of Jim Harrick and ucla. 

The competition the Hogs had to compete against in the 90's was much stiffer than anything we have seen in this decade.  The only reason Florida won was because they were a veteran team both years playing young teams.  Arkansas played veteran teams in both finals. 

The better question might be was the 94' gators better than the 2007 gators?  The 94' Hogs smoke both.