Wing Forward

[Razorod]

Now that the Final Four is over, I hope we get some news on the wing forward that Biggus mentioned previously. From what I gathered from BP's post, (1) the players know about him and expect him to be on the team; (2) he will be immediately eligible; and (3) he should be good enough to start.

Any more news here or hints of who it is?

[mhuff]

Do what ? Hope so

[labb]

Maybe a young man named Ross?

[Razorod]

Do what ? Hope so

The thread where BP brought him up is now in Vents and Rumors. Not sure if I'm supposed to link the thread or not. Biggus mentioned that the players are talking a player being on the team next year and that he is a wing forward. I got the idea that he is a grad transfer, but not sure here.

[The_Iceman]

Be interesting to see who it is. Aaron Ross is the logical choice, because he is the only one out there with Hog connections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAk_8E0WhY4

[Razorod]

I guess I don't see Ross as wing forward (2/3 or 3) in Anderson's system. But maybe I'm just missing it. To me he's more of a hybrid forward (3/4 or 4).

[Hawg Red]

I badly want Ross to be able to don a Hog jersey, even if just for a season. It would mean so much to him.

[azhog10]

I guess I don't see Ross as wing forward (2/3 or 3) in Anderson's system. But maybe I'm just missing it. To me he's more of a hybrid forward (3/4 or 4).

Can someone copy me to the thread where this was mentioned?

[Hawg Red]

I guess I don't see Ross as wing forward (2/3 or 3) in Anderson's system. But maybe I'm just missing it. To me he's more of a hybrid forward (3/4 or 4).

Maybe Anderson is thinking about switching up? Seems unlikely but you never know.

He is definitely more of a 3/4 player and lacks the athleticism that Anderson usually likes in a player.

[The_Iceman]

If Ross does transfer in, we are going to have to go to 2 guards and 3 forwards.

Barford / Beard / Watkins
Hannahs / Macon / Jones
Thomas / Bailey / Jenkins
Ross / Cook
Kingsley / Thompson

...or something like that.

[Razorod]

Can someone copy me to the thread where this was mentioned?

It's in Vents n Rumors, and the thread is titled: Projected Starters/Rotation Next Year.

[Hawg Red]

If Ross does transfer in, we are going to have to go to 2 guards and 3 forwards.

Barford / Beard / Watkins
Hannahs / Macon / Jones
Thomas / Bailey / Jenkins
Ross / Cook
Kingsley / Thompson

...or something like that.

I'm basically with you on that except for you know Watkins will play 15-20 minutes behind Thomas.

[King Kong]

Be interesting to see who it is. Aaron Ross is the logical choice, because he is the only one out there with Hog connections.

Did he play with Beard and Macon at Parkview? Or were they after he graduated?

Of course he played with Hannahs at Texas Tech I'm sure he knows Moses and Watkins as they were Arkansas Wings just a couple years back from him.

[Hawg Red]

Did he play with Beard and Macon at Parkview? Or were they after he graduated?

Of course he played with Hannahs at Texas Tech I'm sure he knows Moses and Watkins as they were Arkansas Wings just a couple years back from him.

Macon and Beard were at Parkview for Ross' senior season. He did play with Dusty at Texas Tech, but they might go back even further to Ross' days at Pulaski Academy.

[yraciv]

Maybe Anderson is thinking about switching up? Seems unlikely but you never know.

He is definitely more of a 3/4 player and lacks the athleticism that Anderson usually likes in a player.

If there is 1 thing I know about Anderson, switching it up is likely not the case.  Our style is what it is!

[yraciv]

I really don't know enough about Thomas, but do people really think he can play on the wing? He seems to be a 3/4 hybrid like Ross.

I like Ross, and he would certainly make us better, but there is still a gaping hole at the Wing Forward. The only ones I consider that on our roster are Manny and Bailey, who neither should see the court more than 15 minutes a game next year.

[King Kong]

Macon and Beard were at Parkview for Ross' senior season. He did play with Dusty at Texas Tech, but they might go back even further to Ross' days at Pulaski Academy.

Thanks.

I didn't realize Ross was at PA at one point

[mhuff]

The thread where BP brought him up is now in Vents and Rumors. Not sure if I'm supposed to link the thread or not. Biggus mentioned that the players are talking a player being on the team next year and that he is a wing forward. I got the idea that he is a grad transfer, but not sure here.

Thanks Razorod. I did not read BP's statement .

[The_Iceman]

I really don't know enough about Thomas, but do people really think he can play on the wing? He seems to be a 3/4 hybrid like Ross.

I like Ross, and he would certainly make us better, but there is still a gaping hole at the Wing Forward. The only ones I consider that on our roster are Manny and Bailey, who neither should see the court more than 15 minutes a game next year.

If he slimmed back down to his high school weight, I think he could. Colorado tried to bulk him up and he lost what made him so good in high school. I think Coty Clarke is an appropriate comparison for him.

[mhuff]

I badly want Ross to be able to don a Hog jersey, even if just for a season. It would mean so much to him.

Talk about a guy that wanted to be a Hoh.

[nwahogfan1]

I'm basically with you on that except for you know Watkins will play 15-20 minutes behind Thomas.

If we get the talent Watkins needs to be buried on the bench.  A good kid and leader but is not a very good D 1 player.

[Hawg Red]

If we get the talent Watkins needs to be buried on the bench.  A good kid and leader but is not a very good D 1 player.

I'm not talking about what needs to happen. I'm talking about what will happen. You and I both know Anderson is going to play Watkins.

[yraciv]

Thanks.

I didn't realize Ross was at PA at one point

Ross has been all over. He was in Springdale in Jr. High, transferred down to PA I believe as a FR, bounced over to Parkview, ended up going to a post grad year up north.  If track record tells you anything, he is overdue for a new team.

[HoopS]

Referred to as a "glue guy" by coach, Watkins is a valuable role player. He doesn't need to be a primary player but there's a place for someone with experience and willingness to play whatever role is needed. If I were him I'd do as Rotnei Clark used to do for shooting threes and that's shoot, shoot, shoot but from the FT stripe. There's a place for a knockdown FT shooter. He may never be able to become one but I'd have him get someone to work with him and then become as good as he can be. Find a role. Keep being a great teammate. Use your experience to help younger guys learn the game. Etc,...

[The_Iceman]

Referred to as a "glue guy" by coach, Watkins is a valuable role player. He doesn't need to be a primary player but there's a place for someone with experience and willingness to play whatever role is needed. If I were him I'd do as Rotnei Clark used to do for shooting threes and that's shoot, shoot, shoot but from the FT stripe. There's a place for a knockdown FT shooter. He may never be able to become one but I'd have him get someone to work with him and then become as good as he can be. Find a role. Keep being a great teammate. Use your experience to help younger guys learn the game. Etc,...

I think Watkins may be getting a bad reputation due to him having to do more than he's capable of due to the poor roster Mike assembled last year. If he could go back to his defensive specialist role, and improve his FT shooting, you could pair him in a lineup with some offensive firepower and he could really help the team. But get him back down to his 2014-2015 minutes per game, 12 to 13.

[HoopS]

I think Watkins may be getting a bad reputation due to him having to do more than he's capable of due to the poor roster Mike assembled last year. If he could go back to his defensive specialist role, and improve his FT shooting, you could pair him in a lineup with some offensive firepower and he could really help the team. But get him back down to his 2014-2015 minutes per game, 12 to 13.

agreed on all points.

Look, I know he's no superstar. But you really don't just discard someone with experience who understands the game and system.

[hogsanity]

agreed on all points.

Look, I know he's no superstar. But you really don't just discard someone with experience who understands the game and system.

Unless he is a lock down guy on the other teams best scorer, he is a huge liability because he is so limited offensively. When he is in the game the other team backs so far off him that they always have help inside. That is okay if you have a couple other outside threats on the floor with him, but if he is on the floor with a offensively limited 2nd group its tough to justify his minutes there.

[Hawg Red]

agreed on all points.

Look, I know he's no superstar. But you really don't just discard someone with experience who understands the game and system.

He needs to be playing 10-15 minutes a game, not extended stretches. Something like his sophomore year.

[intelligence]

agreed on all points.

Look, I know he's no superstar. But you really don't just discard someone with experience who understands the game and system.

he has made some key plays for us at various times though. not like he's chopped liver, he just can't score consistently.

[Letsroll1200]

agreed on all points.

Look, I know he's no superstar. But you really don't just discard someone with experience who understands the game and system.

He is definitely not a defensive specialist because I saw too many times that other guys just drove past him. He does bring energy in some games but he need to have a strong off season. I would like to see him tone up and some areas. Last season he was forced to play the 4 position and that was not his strength.

Is Aaron Ross really transferring? He could be a big help off the bench but I will believe it when I see it.

[King Kong]

Is Aaron Ross really transferring? He could be a big help off the bench but I will believe it when I see it.

All we know is there are rumors that and immediately eligible wing player that will start is rumored to be coming in.

BP said in a previous thread and Nick Mason on periscope apparently hinted at the same thing

Given those rumors Aaron Ross seems to be the most Likey candidate. But there has been nothing official that a player is coming in or if there is that the player is Ross.

[hogsanity]

All we know is there are rumors that and immediately eligible wing player that will start is rumored to be coming in.

BP said in a previous thread and Nick Mason on periscope apparently hinted at the same thing

Given those rumors Aaron Ross seems to be the most Likey candidate. But there has been nothing official that a player is coming in or if there is that the player is Ross.

wonder if the coaches or school can even comment until the player graduates from his current school?

[King Kong]

wonder if the coaches or school can even comment until the player graduates from his current school?

I don't think they can.

However, there is nothing preventing Texas Tech or Aaron Ross from making a formal statement of a future transfer.

[hogsanity]

I don't think they can.

However, there is nothing preventing Texas Tech or Aaron Ross from making a formal statement of a future transfer.

That is true, I just mean from the UA stand point. I assume the players would know, and could make some of the comments they have made, but the school or Mike can't say anything at all. Ross, if it is him, would not say anything, most likely, until he was sure he would graduate on time and that his plan was definitely to come here once he did.

[Letsroll1200]

All we know is there are rumors that and immediately eligible wing player that will start is rumored to be coming in.

BP said in a previous thread and Nick Mason on periscope apparently hinted at the same thing

Given those rumors Aaron Ross seems to be the most Likey candidate. But there has been nothing official that a player is coming in or if there is that the player is Ross.

Aaron Ross does not play on the wing! We need some good news.

[The_Iceman]

Aaron Ross does not play on the wing! We need some good news.

He does in a way. He will float out and hit a jumper, or even take a big man off the bounce if he has a mismatch. Just depends.

[klp1]

Aaron Ross does not play on the wing! We need some good news.

Ross is not a wing.  It's either someone else or some major misdirection. 

[Hawg Red]

Ross is not a wing.  It's either someone else or some major misdirection.

Or it's Ross and the players consider him a wing.

[mbgrulz]

Ross is not a wing.  It's either someone else or some major misdirection. 

He's not a post...What would you call him?

[King Kong]

Aaron Ross does not play on the wing! We need some good news.

That is not 100% accurate

He does in a way. He will float out and hit a jumper, or even take a big man off the bounce if he has a mismatch. Just depends.

Iceman hit if on the head. Ross is a muliple player. Because of his shoot abilty he played on the wing quite a bit. He also is a good post up player if he has a miss match. He played both forward position at Texas Tech

[Atlhogfan1]

Tweener who can shoot reasonably well.  Can pull a 4 out to have to guard him or hit a mid range shot.  Wouldn't bring much else in the way of being able to play our extended defenses or handling or distributing the ball.  Could fill a nice complimentary offensive scoring role and perhaps affect defenses with his size on the perimeter.  Not the forward type we need long term but he wouldn't be long term. 

Speaking of forwards, Thomas' turnovers at CU 

48 assists 83 turnovers
19 steals

Neither have shown to be Coty.  Maybe a change in system will/would help. 

[Hawg Red]

Speaking of forwards, Thomas' turnovers at CU 

48 assists 83 turnovers
19 steals

Definitely a very troubling statistic. Yikes.

[mbgrulz]

Tweener who can shoot reasonably well.  Can pull a 4 out to have to guard him or hit a mid range shot.  Wouldn't bring much else in the way of being able to play our extended defenses or handling or distributing the ball.  Could fill a nice complimentary offensive scoring role and perhaps affect defenses with his size on the perimeter.  Not the forward type we need long term but he wouldn't be long term. 

Speaking of forwards, Thomas' turnovers at CU 

48 assists 83 turnovers
19 steals

Neither have shown to be Coty.  Maybe a change in system will/would help. 

Thats probably accurate, but I doubt anyone is going to say..."We're getting a tweener" More likely that they'd call him a wing accurately or not.

[King Kong]

48 assists 83 turnovers
19 steals

Well for his Soph year it was 29 assists, 34 TO and 12 steals. Let's hope for similar improvement.

[ShadowHawg]

Ross is a more skilled A. Harris.

[Letsroll1200]

Ross is a more skilled A. Harris.

We could use his mid range game. Hopefully the kid will be a Razorback!! He has always wanted to play for the Razorbacks and this would be great for him.

[King Kong]

Ross is a more skilled A. Harris.

Almost nothing of their games are comparable IMO.

[Letsroll1200]

Almost nothing of their games are comparable IMO.

Harris is a awesome athletic and Ross has a old man type of game.

[Hawg Red]

Harris is a awesome athletic and Ross has a old man type of game.

Hogs could use a crafty vet like Ross.

[King Kong]

Harris is a awesome athletic and Ross has a old man type of game.

I agree with this