How do these officials

[Hogsmo Kramer]

Bo Ryan obviously agrees the refs were shite.

His post game interview was telling, specifically addressed all of the hand checking Duke was doing as well as other stuff.

He was fairly forward with his displeasure without outright calling the refs what they deserve to be called. 

[GolfNut57]

At one point, a Badger's jaw fowled a Devil's elbow.

Sure did. Tyus Jones went straight up for the shot while the defender jumped into him. Refs looked at it for all of three seconds and said it was a defensive foul.

[hoglady]

We hear the same thing when it is KY in basketball and Bama in football.

Don't know what would have happened if it had been KY vs. Duke - the officials wouldn't have known what to do.

[N HOG]

On the official review, usually if the spin on the ball does not change, or the ball doesn't change direction, the call is not changed. I thought Winslow touched as well, but has to be overwhelming evidence.

The camera also thought he touched it....officials decided camera lied.

[3of5-2]

Just wait till Ryan sees the no call when the Duke player stepped on the baseline, and ball tipped out of bounds towards the end, when the doofus refs couldn't see it, or didn't want to see it on the replay.

[flippinhogmana]

His third was a lot of ball.

Thats truth, that wasnt a foul.  But it is just one that I saw that went Wisky's way when it shouldnt to a good ten the other way.

[azhog10]

Wiscy actually played very good defense. I'm getting tired of the handcheck rule. This season it was enforced like crazy. In the finals Duke got away with hand check after handcheck. Every time kafir tried to guard Frank up top he grabbed him. Never was it called up top. Jones held Dekker all night and then these refs showed replay was useless as they ignored it when it showed Duke hit it out.

[onebadrubi]

His third was a lot of ball.

Correct, it was questionable but not a bad call nor would it have been a bad no call.  This was the only not obvious call on Okafor. 

[Steef]

I said one. That's the one. I didn't care who won, unlike most of this board.

I didn't care who won either. In fact, it's the first BB game I've watched in...well, this century.

Which does mean, admittedly, that I am no expert.

But the Badgers got hosed by the zebras.

It kills morale (affects shooting) when you know that your opponent can mug you with impunity.

[ronmahony]

I for one don't hate Duke, really didn't care who won because I kind of like both teams, but man the refs sure helped them in this game.

[onebadrubi]

Just wait till Ryan sees the no call when the Duke player stepped on the baseline, and ball tipped out of bounds towards the end, when the doofus refs couldn't see it, or didn't want to see it on the replay.

He already knows, he will not want to see anything to do with this game.

[azhog10]

The camera also thought he touched it....officials decided camera lied.

No kidding replay showed very clearly Winslows finger move back as he hit the ball. That said the ncaa in basketball does not use the CBS cameras and replay system. No telling what they looked at.

[Atlhogfan1]

No complaints about the two obvious walks on Wisconsin leading to scores that weren't called?

First half officiating dictated how this game flowed and Wisconsin had the NC as a result if not for Grayson Allen. 

[revolution]

Announcers for CBS won't point out the free throw discrepancy. Every major entity has a stake in the game. They need the public to believe the competition is fair. But there is just too much bias and God complex in officials today. The games are being consistently tainted.

[GolfNut57]

Bo Ryan agrees that the officials were horrible. I'm
sure the morons that disagree are on their knees for duke. Anybody that played in a boys club game know the officiating was a joke.

And the ones that are disagreeing with the outcome are on THEIR knees for Bo Ryan? See how that can be said either way?

[Razorback_Mack]

No complaints about the two obvious walks on Wisconsin leading to scores that weren't called?

First half officiating dictated how this game flowed and Wisconsin had the NC as a result if not for Grayson Allen.

I could call 2 uncalled walks on any team in any basketball game. It's obvious you're new to the game. Keep learning bud

[Atlhogfan1]

Announcers for CBS won't point out the free throw discrepancy. Every major entity has a stake in the game. They need the public to believe the competition is fair. But there is just too much bias and God complex in officials today. The games are being consistently tainted.

Notice how many Devils are on the networks?  It is a conspiracy. 

[GolfNut57]

Don't know what would have happened if it had been KY vs. Duke - the officials wouldn't have known what to do.

Pretty safe guess that the Duke Haters would still be here crying if it was KY that lost tonight. Those same haters that despise KY and its so-called arrogant fanbase would have had a tough choice who to root for.

[rude1]

Just wait till Ryan sees the no call when the Duke player stepped on the baseline, and ball tipped out of bounds towards the end, when the doofus refs couldn't see it, or didn't want to see it on the replay.

I wonder what Ryan thought when his player went out of bounds came back in being the first one to touch the ball and scored against KY? Or how about watching his guy get a rebound with 0 on the shot clock, stick it back in and have it count against Ky? It's unfortunate he of all people would cry about officiating.

[N HOG]

Bo Ryan just nailed it in press conference when saying "we always think jumping into a defender is an offensive foul."

[Razorback_Mack]

And the ones that are disagreeing with the outcome are on THEIR knees for Bo Ryan? See how that can be said either way?

NO. Ncaa protects the winners. Welcome to 2015. I guess you didn't get the obvious memo.

[rude1]

Bo Ryan just nailed it in press conference when saying "we always think jumping into a defender is an offensive foul."

LOL, really? Frank makes a career by jumping into defenders and initiating the contact, many times ending in and 1s.....

[revolution]

My last comment tonight - after that piss poor job of officiating, I'm done watching college basketball until next season! Somebody's gotta take a stand!

Who's with me?

[Danny J]

It is not just this board complaining for you two or three people who are making it seem that way. They are talking about it right now in the post game, it is the prime topic on ESPN radio and Fox is also talking about it.

The officiating almost always seems biased towards two or three name brand teams. It is also equally bad in other games. I think most of it is the coaches using their players to force the hands of the refs. I know for a fact there are three or four coaches that actively seek to get to the FT line on every play. Fox and Ryan are two of the worst in that regard. It is not good basketball. It is a manipulation. These plays happen so quick it is hard for a ref not to blow the whistle. The rules need to be changed. The anticipation calls need to go.

[Atlhogfan1]

Bo Ryan just nailed it in press conference when saying "we always think jumping into a defender is an offensive foul."

They should have flopped more.  They are very good at it.  I said during the Az game they reminded me of the Spurs or the old Jazz.  Wisky should not complain about officiating. 

[GolfNut57]

Bo Ryan just nailed it in press conference when saying "we always think jumping into a defender is an offensive foul."

So he wants the rules rewritten now to benefit his team? The defender has to have position established or it is a foul on him every time if there is contact with the offensive player. And I saw there were quite a few times tonight where Kaminsky jumped into the defender and still got the call.

[azhog10]

No complaints about the two obvious walks on Wisconsin leading to scores that weren't called?

First half officiating dictated how this game flowed and Wisconsin had the NC as a result if not for Grayson Allen.

Dekker actually didn't travel. Watch the replay, his pivot never moved.

[azhog10]

They should have flopped more.  They are very good at it.  I said during the Az game they reminded me of the Spurs or the old Jazz.  Wisky should not complain about officiating.

Duke took them to school on flopping.

[GolfNut57]

My last comment tonight - after that piss poor job of officiating, I'm done watching college basketball until next season! Somebody's gotta take a stand!

Who's with me?

That should be easy as there is no college basketball left until next year.

[Danny J]

LOL, really? Frank makes a career by jumping into defenders and initiating the contact, many times ending in and 1s.....

Correct....he is the last person to complain. His style of basketball is ruining the game IMO more than anything. You know what his comments were at half time? Get to the FT line more. Mark Fox and Tony Bennett also believe the same. It is not fun basketball to watch. All the stoppages of play ruin rhythm and momentum. It is like watching a puppet master manipulate his players on stage with invisible strings. For a while during the 90's the uptempo teams ruled and everybody started playing that way. Started again in the early 00's a shift back to the slow down game where teams look for not the best shot but the best shot with 3 seconds left on the shotclock often looking for contact. College basketball needs a shift back to more uptempo style of play and relaxation of the hand check rules.

[onebadrubi]

Can you diagram that sentence?

Showing= show I and dang Iphone

[HSVhogfan2]

They should have flopped more.  They are very good at it.  I said during the Az game they reminded me of the Spurs or the old Jazz.  Wisky should not complain about officiating.

You mean grabbing a jersey and pulling them into a pick like Stockton used to do is a foul? I'm trying to figure this out, according to some on here, we need to learn a little about BB.

[GolfNut57]

I wonder what Ryan thought when his player went out of bounds came back in being the first one to touch the ball and scored against KY? Or how about watching his guy get a rebound with 0 on the shot clock, stick it back in and have it count against Ky? It's unfortunate he of all people would cry about officiating.

Pretty much my thinking too.

[hawginbigd1]

Listening to Ryan post game right now.
He said it was the most physical game they've played all year. Said it was a shame the game was allowed to be played that way. Said his players are struggling with that right now.

Knew there was a reason not to like him.

[N HOG]

Jay Bilas now telling us officiating was fine!!

[GolfNut57]

Knew there was a reason not to like him.

So much for handling a disappointing loss with class. I am willing to bet that if Duke had lost tonight Coach K would have done nothing but congratulated the other team and not said one word about the officiating.

[onebadrubi]

Jay Bilas now telling us officiating was fine!!

Are you shocked that every other game was officiated horrible but this one was ok, his words, not min.  He was an admitted homer

[N HOG]

So much for handling a disappointing loss with class. I am willing to bet that if Duke had lost tonight Coach K would have done nothing but congratulated the other team and not said one word about the officiating.

Has K ever had officiating go against him in a big game?

[GolfNut57]

Has K ever had officiating go against him in a big game?

Unless he wins the title every year I am pretty sure he has.

[N HOG]

Final Four free throws....57-26.

What about that is hard to understand?

Especially since we've all seen it over and over with Coach Whiney" K.

Others may simply whine but he gets results.

[GolfNut57]

Final Four free throws....57-26.

What about that is hard to understand?

Especially since we've all seen it over and over with Coach Whiney" K.

Others may simply whine but he gets results.

That's already been covered by the two teams different offensive strategies. And it is a point that I doubt would even be brought up had Wisky hung on for the win tonight.

[hogginbama]

Its the dang inconsistency on both ends of the court that pisses me off. There were a couple of fouls called on Okafor that were simple "breathing on Frank" calls, then he would mug the crap out of someone and it wouldn't be called. Same on the other end, the Jones breakaway at the end was an example. Clearly fouled/mugged on the lay-up attempt and nothing called. 5 previous trips down the court, barely touched by Wisconsin and the whistle blew.

Inconsistency kills the flow of the game. Players have no clue what they will get by with or get called for. Officials across the court decide to blow their whistles while the official on top of the call sees nothing.

[GolfNut57]

Its the dang inconsistency on both ends of the court that pisses me off. There were a couple of fouls called on Okafor that were simple "breathing on Frank" calls, then he would mug the crap out of someone and it wouldn't be called. Same on the other end, the Jones breakaway at the end was an example. Clearly fouled/mugged on the lay-up attempt and nothing called. 5 previous trips down the court, barely touched by Wisconsin and the whistle blew.

Inconsistency kills the flow of the game. Players have no clue what they will get by with or get called for. Officials across the court decide to blow their whistles while the official on top of the call sees nothing.

Just like in MLB, as long as you have humans calling the games you are going to have inconsistency.

[hawginbigd1]

So much for handling a disappointing loss with class. I am willing to bet that if Duke had lost tonight Coach K would have done nothing but congratulated the other team and not said one word about the officiating.

Exactly. I hate Duke, but respect the coach. About 90 they surpassed UNC and KU on my hateometer!

[hogginbama]

Just like in MLB, as long as you have humans calling the games you are going to have inconsistency.

Inconsistency is expected, but to the level that has been displayed over the past year or so is a little overboard.

[GolfNut57]

Inconsistency is expected, but to the level that has been displayed over the past year or so is a little overboard.

Nah........it has been that way for a LONG time...

[Atlhogfan1]

You mean grabbing a jersey and pulling them into a pick like Stockton used to do is a foul? I'm trying to figure this out, according to some on here, we need to learn a little about BB.

Or hook your arm inside the defender's while dribbling and then flail like Stockton or Hornacek. 

[GolfNut57]

They got an after 3PM guest special since Troon took over. 25 buck for 18 and a cart. Helluva deal. That's on any course, Even Grenada.

But not Diamante.....

[HSVhogfan2]

But not Diamante.....

No. I think they open that up 4 or 5 times a year. Club Corp actually owns that. They are in a lawsuit now over the fees and the folks that are grandfathered. $480 a month extra POA. The course is simply to hard for 75% of the members since they are getting older. I keep hoping they will put it in the rotation one day.

[PonderinHog]

Or hook your arm inside the defender's while dribbling and then flail like Stockton or Hornacek.

That's not cheating.  That's an art form.