Natural Gas

[ADAM_713]

Viable resource to power our autos? 

[gwddog]

Absolutely, it's already being done. I see pick up trucks everyday that run off both gasoline and CNG (compressed natural gas).

[McKdaddy]

Tulsa gov't vehicles, as well as city buses, have been converted to cng. Also I've began seeing cng pumps pop-up.

[snoblind]

IIRC, UPS has/is converting a portion of their fleet.

[HawgWild]

Satterfield Oil Company out of Conway announced that they were going to be affiliated with Gulf oil. (Hadn't seen one of those stations in ages.) And, that they would be retrofitting their gas stations to have natural gas and electrical hookups available, in addition to gasoline.

[AFWarrior83]

Natural gas is already popular in Europe, we'll follow suit within the next decade...especially considering how we have so much natural gas in our own country. We have to get away from depending on the middle east eventually.

[OldPoop]

Slowly but surely we're getting there.

http://www.dailywealth.com/2020/A-100-Legitimate-Way-to-Get-a-38-Discount-on-a-Tank-of-Gas

[Cresthog]

T Boone has a pump at his house.

Badass.

[IronHog]

Viable resource to power our autos? 

I'm guessing it will be the rural fuel of choice....maybe sooner than later.  Of course costs will rise then too....

But I can see a situation where those that use alot of fuel (think loggers, farmers, construction, trucking) buy machines that can use multiple fuels and have the ability to get said fuel for their machines.  When your dropping millions per year the costs here are not unrealistic spread over a decade.........



This is much more viable than say LA or Dallas commuters switching in the near term......

[Hawgndaaz]

1.50 per gallon(or whatever the unit of measurement is). the number of pumps is extremely limited.


makes way too much sense, of course. some top SWN guys told me the main barrier to more CNG vehicles is how hard it is to get stations set up in Arkansas. Also, the Obama Administration has not pushed this alternative fuel source hard enough.

[Flatline]

All of AOG's vehicles run off of it. 

Natural gas prices are at the lowest they have ever been I believe.  I have several gas well leases so I would like to see us make the switch.

[IronHog]

1.50 per gallon(or whatever the unit of measurement is). the number of pumps is extremely limited.


makes way too much sense, of course. some top SWN guys told me the main barrier to more CNG vehicles is how hard it is to get stations set up in Arkansas. Also, the Obama Administration has not pushed this alternative fuel source hard enough.

That is why IMO it MIGHT be a fuel for industrial users vs. the masses.

A diesel is kinda a multifuel engine anyway.  Really wouldn't be that hard for bulk plants to start filling the stuff for farmers, trucks, etc.

T Boone's plan isn't all that far fetched IMO.

[ricepig]

I'm guessing it will be the rural fuel of choice....maybe sooner than later.  Of course costs will rise then too....

But I can see a situation where those that use alot of fuel (think loggers, farmers, construction, trucking) buy machines that can use multiple fuels and have the ability to get said fuel for their machines.  When your dropping millions per year the costs here are not unrealistic spread over a decade.........



This is much more viable than say LA or Dallas commuters switching in the near term......

In the early 1990's Arkla was pushing to lay lines across farms in NEA, while many didn't want it, I let them lay pipe and set regulators to over 20 irrigation wells. My theory was to have an electric line, gas line, and a diesel tank at every well, and not be at the mercy of one source of energy provider. The biggest problem with the natural gas companies is they were always way above the future's price, the always had a locked in rate approved by the PSC.

[Hawgndaaz]

All of AOG's vehicles run off of it. 

Natural gas prices are at the lowest they have ever been I believe.  I have several gas well leases so I would like to see us make the switch.

don't get your hopes up.

they're moving out drilling rigs weekly now. SWN is going down to 5 or 6 in the next month or so.

also rumors of BHP pulling their drilling operation out of the state for a while. it could get real ugly around here.

[Buff]

I like the future of natural gas but I wouldn't go out and buy a CNG-powered vehicle tomorrow.

[Masshog]

A lot of fleets are slowly but surely converting as they retire older rigs. Bet fifteen years from now it will be about 100% of the commercial fleet.

[IronHog]

In the early 1990's Arkla was pushing to lay lines across farms in NEA, while many didn't want it, I let them lay pipe and set regulators to over 20 irrigation wells. My theory was to have an electric line, gas line, and a diesel tank at every well, and not be at the mercy of one source of energy provider. The biggest problem with the natural gas companies is they were always way above the future's price, the always had a locked in rate approved by the PSC.

You see the the thing the farmer here in the state came up with where he was replacing power units with old rebuilt front halves of Mack trucks modified to be power units?

Pretty slick...... once they had the well up to speed they'd shift through the gears and get a dramatic fuel savings over a regular direct drive unit.