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Which Anti-Arkansas Basketball betrayal was worst?

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We're used to getting stabbed in the back.    It is a recurrent theme with top recruits and others associated with our basketball program.  Which was the worst?

Malik goes to Kentucky,  to shield himself from 'distractions'
208 (56.7%)
Archie goes to Kentucky as a 'business decision'
12 (3.3%)
Eddie goes to Kentucky, crawling on his hands and knees
94 (25.6%)
Dana Altman heads back to Creighton in 24 hours
53 (14.4%)

Total Members Voted: 367

Voting closed: February 25, 2016, 02:13:56 pm

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ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 02:13:56 pm
I know which one was worst to me;  I still boo that ridiculous drunk, every time we invite him back to celebrate the accomplishments of real Razorbacks.

Who do you think is the biggest turncoat in Hog history?
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

hawginbigd1

November 18, 2015, 02:25:51 pm #1
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 02:13:56 pm
I know which one was worst to me;  I still boo that ridiculous drunk, every time we invite him back to celebrate the accomplishments of real Razorbacks.

Who do you think is the biggest turncoat in Hog history?
I think your booing is misplaced, Broyles is the one you should be booing IMO.
 

PonderinHog

November 18, 2015, 02:55:40 pm #2
White-in candidate - Fauxhawg.   >:(

Hogsfan1981

November 18, 2015, 03:13:22 pm #3
If this stuff about his brother is true you should rename the first option.

Beaverfever

November 18, 2015, 03:16:35 pm #4
Quote from: Hogsfan1981 on November 18, 2015, 03:13:22 pm
If this stuff about his brother is true you should rename the first option.


Marcus is my second all-time favorite hog behind Matt Jones.  I don't know much about the "distractions" but either way it's disappointing his brother didn't want to be a hog. 

Großer Kriegschwein

November 18, 2015, 03:18:16 pm #5
Manchurian Monk should be a pole option.....

Or goat chili frito pie like they eat in the KY.
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RME

November 18, 2015, 03:18:57 pm #6
Betrayal...really? Who did Monk betray? University of Arkansas or the state of Arkansas? What does he owe to either of those two entities? Same with Goodwin.

Großer Kriegschwein

November 18, 2015, 03:20:10 pm #7
Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on November 18, 2015, 03:18:57 pm
Betrayal...really? Who did Monk betray? University of Arkansas or the state of Arkansas? What does he owe to either of those two entities? Same with Goodwin.

Shut tha Frank up Donnie this doesn't concern you
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RME

November 18, 2015, 03:21:45 pm #8
Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on November 18, 2015, 03:20:10 pm
Shut tha Frank up Donnie this doesn't concern you

Meh, concerns me just as much as anyone else on Hogville

PorkRinds

November 18, 2015, 03:24:42 pm #9
Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on November 18, 2015, 03:18:57 pm
Betrayal...really? Who did Monk betray? University of Arkansas or the state of Arkansas? What does he owe to either of those two entities? Same with Goodwin.

Marcus evidently betrayed plenty of people in this deal.

DeltaBoy

November 18, 2015, 03:25:34 pm #10
Monk this is as bad as Keith Jackson leaving and going to OU!
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

tophawg19

November 18, 2015, 03:28:34 pm #11
Marcus worked the deal to get a U OF A job .
if you ain't a hawg you ain't chitlins

DeltaBoy

November 18, 2015, 03:30:18 pm #12
Can him and his show.

Quote from: tophawg19 on November 18, 2015, 03:28:34 pm
Marcus worked the deal to get a U OF A job .
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.
 

RME

November 18, 2015, 03:31:09 pm #13
Quote from: PorkRinds on November 18, 2015, 03:24:42 pm
Marcus evidently betrayed plenty of people in this deal.

Poll says Malik. Not Marcus.

onebadrubi

November 18, 2015, 03:32:19 pm #14
Add the Broyles and White handling of Nolan and that would be my choice. I say that, not the handling afterwards, I am saying the managing of Nolan that lead to the issues.

DeltaBoy

November 18, 2015, 03:32:32 pm #15
Marcus went to UA and played for us in Football and Basketball  His Brother made a business decision to go Big Blue.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

onebadrubi

November 18, 2015, 03:33:04 pm #16
Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on November 18, 2015, 03:31:09 pm
Poll says Malik. Not Marcus.

And good Marriages are always pronounced Male first,  but who really wears the pants,.

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 04:20:05 pm #17
Write-in:

Keith Lee to Memphis High.......................
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 04:24:19 pm #18
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 02:13:56 pm
I know which one was worst to me;  I still boo that ridiculous drunk, every time we invite him back to celebrate the accomplishments of real Razorbacks.

Who do you think is the biggest turncoat in Hog history?

You are forgetting that without him some of the most celebrated Razorbacks would not have been Razorbacks...........................I know Eddie and I've personally heard him say leaving Arkansas like he did was the biggest mistake he ever made. He loved it here. Like a few other well known coaches his issues were not with Arkansas or it's fans or it's people in general. They were either personal or with another person.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 04:54:06 pm #19
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 04:24:19 pm
You are forgetting that without him some of the most celebrated Razorbacks would not have been Razorbacks...........................I know Eddie and I've personally heard him say leaving Arkansas like he did was the biggest mistake he ever made. He loved it here. Like a few other well known coaches his issues were not with Arkansas or it's fans or it's people in general. They were either personal or with another person.

Never forgive him.  Ever.

He turned his back on us, and crawled on his hands and knees.  He can stay in Kentucky and never come back.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Danny J

November 18, 2015, 04:55:15 pm #20
Quote from: PorkRinds on November 18, 2015, 03:24:42 pm
Marcus evidently betrayed plenty of people in this deal.
That is who I have a problem with. I don't blame Malik.

Danny J

November 18, 2015, 04:55:41 pm #21
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 04:54:06 pm
Never forgive him.  Ever.

He turned his back on us, and crawled on his hands and knees.  He can stay in Kentucky and never come back.
That is who I voted for as well.

Rocky&Boarwinkle

November 18, 2015, 05:00:41 pm #22
Quote from: Danny J on November 18, 2015, 04:55:41 pm
That is who I voted for as well.
As did I.  I understand that he, Lou, Kenny and many others hit the door because of the way Frank either treated them or rode them.  Now, I appreciate all he did in building us up to a decent athletic program with great facilities.  And sometimes when you work for A$$hats like Saban and others that are that intense, they just don't feel like handling anyone with kid gloves or be decent in any way.  I know those type of leaders frequently get results, but I know that I myself wouldn't have worked for him very long.

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 05:12:26 pm #23 Last Edit: November 18, 2015, 05:49:16 pm by Inhogswetrust
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 04:54:06 pm
Never forgive him.  Ever.

He turned his back on us, and crawled on his hands and knees.  He can stay in Kentucky and never come back.

You can hold a grudge all you want to. I'm just stating what I've heard from him personally and he didn't turn his back on us. He simply had to leave. There are some of his former players that love him and this state both. Some even still live here and support the UA including some with their money. Without him maybe that doesn't happen. What more do you want him to do, grovel at your feet and beg for forgiveness.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi
 

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 05:16:00 pm #24
Quote from: Rocky&Boarwinkle on November 18, 2015, 05:00:41 pm
As did I.  I understand that he, Lou, Kenny and many others hit the door because of the way Frank either treated them or rode them.  Now, I appreciate all he did in building us up to a decent athletic program with great facilities.  And sometimes when you work for A$$hats like Saban and others that are that intense, they just don't feel like handling anyone with kid gloves or be decent in any way.  I know those type of leaders frequently get results, but I know that I myself wouldn't have worked for him very long.

I respect Frank and he is Mr. Razorback and I'll always be grateful to him. BUT I would never have wanted to work for him as a head coach.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 05:32:54 pm #25
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 05:12:26 pm
You can hold a grudge all you want to. I'm just stating what I've heard from him personally and he didn't turn his back on us. He simply had to leave. There a some of his former players that love him and this state both. Some even still live here and support the UA including some with their money. Without him maybe that doesn't happen. What more do you want him to do, grovel at your feet and beg for forgiveness.

I hope he regrets it every day, from the time he wakes up until the time he dies.

I've driven across the state just to boo him at Arkansas State and UALR games, back when he was at Oklahoma State.

There is no forgiveness for what he did, ever.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Dr. Starcs

November 18, 2015, 05:38:00 pm #26
I've known people who worked for frank and as you could imagine did not enjoy it. I do know a couple that did though.

Rocky&Boarwinkle

November 18, 2015, 05:42:00 pm #27
Quote from: Dr. Starcs on November 18, 2015, 05:38:00 pm
I've known people who worked for frank and as you could imagine did not enjoy it. I do know a couple that did though.
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 05:16:00 pm
I respect Frank and he is Mr. Razorback and I'll always be grateful to him. BUT I would never have wanted to work for him as a head coach.
I voted for Eddie on the poll.  I understand why he did what he did in regards to Frank, and that was the only point I was making and apparently some others agree with me that Frank was one of those driven guys that just tries to get everyone to function at his level of perfection.  That being said, the "crawl to Kentucky" line is the thing that Arkansas fans can never forgive him for, much more than the going.

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 05:47:39 pm #28
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 05:32:54 pm
I hope he regrets it every day, from the time he wakes up until the time he dies.

I've driven across the state just to boo him at Arkansas State and UALR games, back when he was at Oklahoma State.

There is no forgiveness for what he did, ever.



I'm curious. WHY the vitriol?
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 05:54:02 pm #29
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 05:47:39 pm
I'm curious. WHY the vitriol?

You don't need a drop more reason than 'on my hands and knees' from Eddie.

He was dead to me, and should be dead to Razorback fans, from that moment onward, forever.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

HoopS

November 18, 2015, 06:00:00 pm #30
Thing is

If what we've been told today is true, Malik WANTED to be a Hog. Marcus wanted him to go to Kentucky.

I'm less disappointed with Malik than Marcus.

PORKULATOR

November 18, 2015, 06:02:22 pm #31
I'm very disappointed in Marcus' little brother. This hurts. It would've been huge for us and its just average for them.
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Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 06:24:08 pm #32
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 05:54:02 pm
You don't need a drop more reason than 'on my hands and knees' from Eddie.

He was dead to me, and should be dead to Razorback fans, from that moment onward, forever.


He was NOT intentionally slamming Hog fans or the state or the school. He said that before he ever left KY. IF I wasn't an alum as I am and IF KY called and wanted to talk to me about being their head basketball coach I'd take the call. As I said I know him and he loved it here. Do I like that he said it, nope. Can I forgive him, yes because I know why he felt he needed to leave at the time. Hindsight being 20/20 he himself recognizes he said it wrong.He also knows he really didn't have to leave.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 06:33:00 pm #33
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 06:24:08 pm
He was NOT intentionally slamming Hog fans or the state or the school. He said that before he ever left KY. IF I wasn't an alum as I am and IF KY called and wanted to talk to me about being their head basketball coach I'd take the call. As I said I know him and he loved it here. Do I like that he said it, nope. Can I forgive him, yes because I know why he felt he needed to leave at the time. Hindsight being 20/20 he himself recognizes he said it wrong.He also knows he really didn't have to leave.

Any word he said after isn't worth hearing.

I don't care how sorry he was;  I don't care how often he apologizes;  I don't care what ex-player or administrator they trot him out with as a sobriety coach, to make him seem more sincere.

Eddie Sutton is the enemy.  Always will be.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Boarmonger

November 18, 2015, 06:34:59 pm #34
Quote from: DeltaBoy on November 18, 2015, 03:25:34 pm
Monk this is as bad as Keith Jackson leaving and going to OU!

Worse, KJ didn't play a bunch of ppl and string them along and take advantage of them.

3kgthog

November 18, 2015, 06:39:05 pm #35
Is there enough smoke in the "Malik wanted to commit to MA three weeks ago" story to create a fire? If it's truly Malik's decision without the urging of Marcus, that's fine. We dealt with KJ Hill, Archie, James Anderson, Tenpenny (RIP), and a host of others forfeiting their Arkansas residency. We won't be happy about it, but we'll live. 

However, if it's true that Marcus influenced this commitment and signing in hopes of elevating his status in the business world, I can only say I've lost all respect for him. Hog fans get over losing players in a fair fight, but we don't forget when a player we supported and cheered for uses his past as a Razorback to line his pockets, gain employment, and gain support for his business ventures before (allegedly) refusing to let his brother be a Hog.

phadedhawg

November 18, 2015, 06:39:36 pm #36
Eddie...no doubt...easy answer.

yraciv

November 18, 2015, 06:47:06 pm #37
This is the worse! Everyone else's was their own undoing and Broyles forced Sutton to run.  This you have a former Razorback, who was given a job with the basketball program, involved.  I can live with Malik deciding to go to UK for every other reason, if the rumor is true I put the blame squarely on one of my favorite Hogs ever. That is crushing!

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 07:22:08 pm #38
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 06:33:00 pm
Any word he said after isn't worth hearing.

I don't care how sorry he was;  I don't care how often he apologizes;  I don't care what ex-player or administrator they trot him out with as a sobriety coach, to make him seem more sincere.

Eddie Sutton is the enemy.  Always will be.

So you're perfect and he isn't? We aren't talking about a murder here or something to that effect. We are simply talking about someone that said something he regrets. Did anyone ever not forgive you when you sincerely asked after saying something you really wished you hadn't said..............................
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 07:25:18 pm #39
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 07:22:08 pm
So you're perfect and he isn't? Did anyone ever not forgive you when you sincerely asked..............................

Nope.  And you know what--  no one is obligated in that regard either.

But I'll boo Eddie Sutton at every opportunity, and remind every Hog fan, at every opportunity, what he did to our program after we spent 20 years covering up for his misconduct.

Screw Eddie Sutton.  May he never darken the halls of our program ever again.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 07:32:39 pm #40
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 07:25:18 pm
Nope.  And you know what--  no one is obligated in that regard either.

But I'll boo Eddie Sutton at every opportunity, and remind every Hog fan, at every opportunity, what he did to our program after we spent 20 years covering up for his misconduct.

Screw Eddie Sutton.  May he never darken the halls of our program ever again.

What exactly did he do to our program after 20 years? He left for somewhere else he thought would be better for him. Happens to coaches all the time............First off he wasn't here but only one year over half of that. If you mean covering up his drinking and addiction issues then I understand. But where do you get 20 years.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 07:35:31 pm #41
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 07:32:39 pm
What exactly did he do to our program after 20 years...........First off he wasn't here but only one year over half of that. If you mean covering up his drinking and addiction issues then I understand. But where do you get 20 years.

He left for Kentucky;  he jilted us; it was 10, rather than 20  (fat finger typos)  1975-1985.

Eddie didn't leave to deal with his drinking problem;  he didn't retire;  he didn't chase an NBA dream.   Those, you might not like, but you can understand.

He left us for Kentucky.

There aren't enough words that can bypass our profanity feature to express how I feel about Eddie Sutton.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

PharmacistHog

November 18, 2015, 07:36:28 pm #42
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 05:32:54 pm
I hope he regrets it every day, from the time he wakes up until the time he dies.

I've driven across the state just to boo him at Arkansas State and UALR games, back when he was at Oklahoma State.

There is no forgiveness for what he did, ever.



(Note to self) Never, ever piss off Erie.
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BadHog

November 18, 2015, 07:38:25 pm #43
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 02:13:56 pm
I know which one was worst to me;  I still boo that ridiculous drunk, every time we invite him back to celebrate the accomplishments of real Razorbacks.

Who do you think is the biggest turncoat in Hog history?

I was glad when he left.
"Rumors are started by haters, spread by the fools and accepted by idiots."

Inhogswetrust

November 18, 2015, 07:39:41 pm #44
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 07:35:31 pm
He left for Kentucky;  he jilted us; it was 10, rather than 20  (fat finger typos)  1975-1985.

Eddie didn't leave to deal with his drinking problem;  he didn't retire;  he didn't chase an NBA dream.   Those, you might not like, but you can understand.

He left us for Kentucky.

There aren't enough words that can bypass our profanity feature to express how I feel about Eddie Sutton.

KY is one of, if not THE top college basketball jobs in the country and you hold a grudge for that? I can only think of a few situations in college sports where if a coach left for another team the jilted fans would have a case for disliking them for leaving and most of those are in football. Besides Eddie and Frank have reconciled.

P:.S. He took the job in 1974. I dated a Hog players cousin that year in high school. When I went with her to a family dinner and he was there I asked him about Eddie (that was before I met Eddie) and he said it was very different from Van Eman. He liked it though.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

ErieHog

November 18, 2015, 07:42:25 pm #45
Quote from: Inhogswetrust on November 18, 2015, 07:39:41 pm
KY is one of, if not THE top college basketball jobs in the country and you hold a grudge for that? I can only think of a few situations in college sports where if a coach left for another team the jilted fans would have a case for disliking them for leaving and most of those are in football. Besides Eddie and Frank have reconciled.

ABSOLUTELY.

Screw Eddie.    Boo Eddie at every opportunity.   Screw Kentucky.

I don't give a fat rat's darn what Eddie and Frank have done.    Screw Eddie.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Albert Einswine

November 18, 2015, 07:43:24 pm #46
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 07:35:31 pm
He left for Kentucky;  he jilted us; it was 10, rather than 20  (fat finger typos)  1975-1985.

Eddie didn't leave to deal with his drinking problem;  he didn't retire;  he didn't chase an NBA dream.   Those, you might not like, but you can understand.

He left us for Kentucky.

There aren't enough words that can bypass our profanity feature to express how I feel about Eddie Sutton.


I'm with you, I voted Eddie. I was 9 when he came aboard, he made football off-season meaningful for me and my friends. He didn't just leave, he left and kicked us in the nads on the way out.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

PharmacistHog

November 18, 2015, 07:45:52 pm #47
Quote from: Albert Einswine on November 18, 2015, 07:43:24 pm

I'm with you, I voted Eddie. I was 9 when he came aboard, he made football off-season meaningful for me and my friends. He didn't just leave, he left and kicked us in the nads on the way out.

Well the monks didnt exactly give us a handy on their way out the door.
Quote from: GA reddiehog on May 18, 2019, 12:36:02 pm<br />Hogs have hit a wall at the wrong time of the season.  I will go on record now and say they may not even get out of their regional.  The hitting has been carrying them with a few good pitching outings but they just don't have the reliable pitching they need to get back to the CWS.<br />
Quote from: GA reddiehog on April 16, 2024, 07:44:38 pmPitching over hyped and hitting nonexistent is going to make for several loses here on out. Maybe it will not be as bad as the BB team. Lack of hitting has been a problem for many moons.

Overtheroadtruckdriver

November 18, 2015, 08:00:00 pm #48
Quote from: ErieHog on November 18, 2015, 07:42:25 pm
ABSOLUTELY.

Screw Eddie.    Boo Eddie at every opportunity.   Screw Kentucky.

I don't give a fat rat's darn what Eddie and Frank have done.    Screw Eddie.

I wish I could conjure up that much emotion about anything...or this much anger about something that happened 30 years ago. Wow. I can't even imagine harboring that much hatred or anger about anything sports related. 

I am in awe.

PharmacistHog

November 18, 2015, 08:02:45 pm #49
Quote from: OTR on November 18, 2015, 08:00:00 pm
I wish I could conjure up that much emotion about anything...or this much anger about something that happened 30 years ago. Wow. I can't even imagine harboring that much hatred or anger about anything sports related. 

I am in awe.



No kidding.

But I still wouldnt mind a giant piano falling on the nutt family on one of their sonic icecream runs.
Quote from: GA reddiehog on May 18, 2019, 12:36:02 pm<br />Hogs have hit a wall at the wrong time of the season.  I will go on record now and say they may not even get out of their regional.  The hitting has been carrying them with a few good pitching outings but they just don't have the reliable pitching they need to get back to the CWS.<br />
Quote from: GA reddiehog on April 16, 2024, 07:44:38 pmPitching over hyped and hitting nonexistent is going to make for several loses here on out. Maybe it will not be as bad as the BB team. Lack of hitting has been a problem for many moons.
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