Could it be?

[DoubleReedHawgCaller]

I really believe BB and the OC are waiting for this legacy to end.

Well it's a real possibility it ends next Saturday with the beating he's getting ready to take.

[ballz2thewall]

That makes a ton of sense...run the receivers away from the ball and throw a screen and watch what happens....Petrino does it all the time.

hell, everyone does it. screens are old as the hills. we griped about it loudly when cheney was here. his excuse; our OL ain't skilled.

[ronmahony]

This isn't the first time I have heard this theory.

I think everyone is getting tired of the Allen Legacy. I hope if either Brandon or Austin have a son that I am long gone when they are old enough to play college football. If not I hope they don't play for Arkansas!

Well I hope like hell BB isn't still here. He is the only coach dumb enough to keep playing them.

[Hogindasticks]

I really think that Enos  that he is very limited in what he can comfortably call with AA

[ronmahony]

I really think that Enos  that he is very limited in what he can comfortably call with AA

Could be. I know I heard how good Enos was, but the play calling today was just ridiculous. All that time at halftime and come right back out, delayed handoff up the middle. Even the announcers were talking about how our backs were having to juke just to get back to the line of scrimmage. And I don't know how many times when we're close to the sideline we would run some kind of a sweep to the short side of the field. Hell SC didn't even have to line up on the ball, just stick the whole defense between the ball and the sideline and wait for us to run into them! And that was pretty much our play calling.

[Hogindasticks]

If you watch....when ck comes in its always different plays

[Hogindasticks]

We were in 2nd and 9 all day

[Hogindasticks]

Ck accuracy was just as good as AA today

[Hogindasticks]

Could be. I know I heard how good Enos was, but the play calling today was just ridiculous. All that time at halftime and come right back out, delayed handoff up the middle. Even the announcers were talking about how our backs were having to juke just to get back to the line of scrimmage. And I don't know how many times when we're close to the sideline we would run some kind of a sweep to the short side of the field. Hell SC didn't even have to line up on the ball, just stick the whole defense between the ball and the sideline and wait for us to run into them! And that was pretty much our play calling.

Agree completely....i really think thats why kelly played today.....to show people whats coming

[NaturalStateReb]

Kelley's not a long term answer. He's like the rest of the team--big and slow. Maybe some of your collective dreams will come true after this "line" that OL specialist Bielema has assembled finally lets Alabama kill Austin Allen this week.

The idea that Allen intentionally threw an interception is patently absurd. Never go full tinfoil hat.

[NaturalStateReb]

Could be. I know I heard how good Enos was, but the play calling today was just ridiculous. All that time at halftime and come right back out, delayed handoff up the middle. Even the announcers were talking about how our backs were having to juke just to get back to the line of scrimmage. And I don't know how many times when we're close to the sideline we would run some kind of a sweep to the short side of the field. Hell SC didn't even have to line up on the ball, just stick the whole defense between the ball and the sideline and wait for us to run into them! And that was pretty much our play calling.

They were having to juke to get back to the line of scrimmage because this offensive line sucks.

[ballz2thewall]

Kelley's not a long term answer. He's like the rest of the team--big and slow. Maybe some of your collective dreams will come true after this "line" that OL specialist Bielema has assembled finally lets Alabama kill Austin Allen this week.

The idea that Allen intentionally threw an interception is patently absurd. Never go full tinfoil hat.

agreed. the OL is the root of the problem.

[Hogindasticks]

Kelley's not a long term answer. He's like the rest of the team--big and slow. Maybe some of your collective dreams will come true after this "line" that OL specialist Bielema has assembled finally lets Alabama kill Austin Allen this week.

The idea that Allen intentionally threw an interception is patently absurd. Never go full tinfoil hat.

I my OLine wont block for me...why should I care while i am rolling out.....not getting hit again because of these guys....

[NaturalStateReb]

I my OLine wont block for me...why should I care while i am rolling out.....not getting hit again because of these guys....

You can't roll away from SEC defenders every down. Someone has to block.

[Hogindasticks]

They dont like him...they arent blocking for him.

[NaturalStateReb]

They dont like him...they arent blocking for him.

Because they're terrible. It's not a conspiracy. They just suck.

[Hogindasticks]

Sucked less with ck in there....might wanna pay attention

[Hogindasticks]

Look at his interception. Threw it directly to defense.....no receiver in the area.

[NaturalStateReb]

Sucked less with ck in there....might wanna pay attention

During garbage time when South Carolina decided to sub in.

[NaturalStateReb]

Look at his interception. Threw it directly to defense.....no receiver in the area.

Wonder if a good route got run?

What's more likely:  a busted route, or Allen intentionally throwing a pick because he had his feelings hurt? 

[Hogindasticks]

Wonder if a good route got run?

What's more likely:  a busted route, or Allen intentionally throwing a pick because he had his feelings hurt?

10 yard pass....even thick glasses could see that.

[Hogindasticks]

Look at the film..draw your own conclusions and quit trying to disprove mine

[Hogindasticks]

Watch what he does after the pick.....and it will answer your question

[synthartist69]

No man, that is too complicated, way too much drama. You think these players want to sacrifice their NFL chances by not doing anything??? What I think the deal is, and I agree that the blocking is better is that SC wasn't coming after Kelly as hard because he is a running threat. At times they did, to test the waters.

[NaturalStateReb]

Look at the film..draw your own conclusions and quit trying to disprove mine

My conclusion is your conclusion is tinfoil hat nonsense, but it doesn't matter. The bottom line is this--no QB on campus will radically change this team. They're just very, very bad.

[Hogindasticks]

But accuracy was still there on the td passes....i like the location the ball is coming out of ck hands....gonna be harder to knock out since he is taller

[Pancetta]

Look at his interception. Threw it directly to defense.....no receiver in the area.

Because the receiver made the wring read on the play?  WR making wrong reads could be at the heart of everything. AA can't throw quick because he can't just throw to a spot, he has to make sure the receiver makes the right cut first, resulting in AA holding the ball too long. AA showed he was good last year with decent receivers and a terrible OL. This year still has terrible OL and I doubt AA is worse so I would say that points to receivers.

[Hogindasticks]

I would say that the receivers arent saving him this year

[Hogindasticks]

I think his view of the team may be a little skewed this year affecting his play on the field

[Temprees]

Possibly...with reps it will come.  I think BB is doing what he is told concerning AA via Long..via ...i do not believe he is the best quarterback on the squad after watching the spring workout  where they worked out side by side.  I believe the kids know it...which is the main problem here.

Thats true with several positions on the team.  It was the same last year.  Many should realized this last year when a 4.72 forty WR was our most targeted receiver.  This is the SEC folks.

[Temprees]

Because the receiver made the wring read on the play?  WR making wrong reads could be at the heart of everything. AA can't throw quick because he can't just throw to a spot, he has to make sure the receiver makes the right cut first, resulting in AA holding the ball too long. AA showed he was good last year with decent receivers and a terrible OL. This year still has terrible OL and I doubt AA is worse so I would say that points to receivers.

Why was Kelly getting rid of the ball on time?  Kelly was throwing to the same receivers.

[synthartist69]

I understand your frustration guys, I know it's hard not to accept that this state is undesirable for Football, and really basketball. It's not really your fault.

[Hogindasticks]

I think if he plays ck then things will go in the right direction

[alohawg]

I see a lot of small things that could be done to get the ball outta AA hands...

It doesn't matter, Alabama has a plan to do that and I'm sure Auburn does too.

[Biggus Piggus]

They dont like him...they arent blocking for him.

Nothing is universal, but the team is riven with dissension.

[BearsBisonsBoars]

AA might be the least liked.player on the team, but his teammates have only a brief time in their life to play college ball and all would like to think they have the potential to play pro ball. Dogging it out because you don't like one of your teammates wouldn't make much sense.

College kids aren't always that rational. Otherwise they wouldn't shoplift or etc. Opinion of a "leader" can easily make a difference between 90% and 100% effort.

[KennyForAD]

You're dreaming.  The line ranks dead last in power rushing and dead last in qb protection in the NCAA for 2 years straight.  And the next worst in each is not even close.  Ours is, beyond debate, the WORST line in football.

[Hoggish1]

Look at angles Allen was looking at during his pic 6 and you will see he had every intention of giving them the ball.  It wasnt hard to see.  Then he never tried to make amends from his mistake which is disturbing.  BB has to do what he is told concerning thia kid..dont think for a moment that this is his decision. 

LMAO.  myadvicetoyouistostayinthosesticks

[Al Boarland]

So, people are giving CBB cover fire by saying Long has forced him to play AA?

Just when you thought you've seen it all...

[Hoggish1]

ck also steps up in the pocket. our starter never does that.

Yep. 

It helps when you are about eight inches taller than AA.  There are a lot of advantages to being that tall.  Not the least of which is the advantage it give the QB on screens. AA's height is a negative when baiting the D-line. The ball too often gets delayed to the waiting back, with an escort, that has to be floated too high or is tipped.

[doc53]

I have had two sources, one who works at the Foundation, confirm that the team doesn't like Allen because he's too arrogant, etc. 

What the heck has he done to feel arrogant?

[KennyForAD]

What the heck has he done to feel arrogant?

He conned an entire state and has bilked us for all we are worth.  All con men are arrogant.  They see their victims as fools.

[Porkchop#1]

They dont like him...they arent blocking for him.

If that's the case, they must not be too wild about the running backs either.

[PonderinHog]

Thanks, I needed the laugh!

This thread is awesome!

[hogbud]

I have had two sources, one who works at the Foundation, confirm that the team doesn't like Allen because he's too arrogant, etc. 

Shocker....an arrogant QB...your source is stupid

[Danny J]

You're dreaming.  The line ranks dead last in power rushing and dead last in qb protection in the NCAA for 2 years straight.  And the next worst in each is not even close.  Ours is, beyond debate, the WORST line in football.

And we lose Ragnow next year. It's gonna be a disaster if by some miracle he gets to 6 wins and retains his job especially if Anderson is still here. It's no coincidence since his arrival our O line has regressed to the point it has. It also doesn't help when our "LEADER" consistently throws temper tantrums directed at them and the receivers game after game.

[hoghearted]

Because the receiver made the wring read on the play?  WR making wrong reads could be at the heart of everything. AA can’t throw quick because he can’t just throw to a spot, he has to make sure the receiver makes the right cut first, resulting in AA holding the ball too long. AA showed he was good last year with decent receivers and a terrible OL. This year still has terrible OL and I doubt AA is worse so I would say that points to receivers.

[KennyForAD]

And we lose Ragnow next year. It's gonna be a disaster if by some miracle he gets to 6 wins and retains his job especially if Anderson is still here. It's no coincidence since his arrival our O line has regressed to the point it has. It also doesn't help when our "LEADER" consistently throws temper tantrums directed at them and the receivers game after game.

A COACH WHO PROMISED A GREAT O-LINE...HAS THE UNDENIABLY WORST O-LINE IN THE NCAA IN YEAR FIVE =  HOPELESSLY INCOMPETENT COACH.

Glad you understand.  I just can't grasp how hog fans are so stupid they can't get it.  Can you explain that to me?

[Cure]

My conclusion is your conclusion is tinfoil hat nonsense, but it doesn't matter. The bottom line is this--no QB on campus will radically change this team. They're just very, very bad.

They haven't played yet, so who knows at this point.

[Hogindasticks]

The blocked for Cole......funny aint it.