Heath,Be a man of Honor and step down

[hogken]

an 18 point lead? My God! It unfortunately falls on the coach. even though he is not actually playing....Please Heath be a man and step down. You in over your head! 18 point lead?

[TXrazorback]

an 18 point lead? My God! It unfortunately falls on the coach. even though he is not actually playing....Please Heath be a man and step down. You in over your head! 18 point lead?

It´s happened before i´m sure.  But sometimes you gotta know when to let go and realize that you are a complete failure.

[SiriusHog™]

here's the difference in the game: the PLAYERS EXECUTED in the first half on both ends of the floor, the PLAYERS DID NOT EXECUTE in the second half on either end of the floor... it wouldnt have mattered if john wooden was on our sideline.... and i know the blown 18 point lead thing will stick in people's heads.. but this still isnt as bad as that one year in the SEC tourney final, against kentucky, we were up by about 20 the whole friggin game and lost it in OT...

[Pragmatic PiG]

and take nutt with ya  pleeeeaaaaaaaseeeeeeee     

[hogken]

we always get away from what got us the lead. this ones no different. We went into a dont lose your lead mode,poor Defense,no rebounding!. Heaths gotta go! immediately!

[nobballconcept]

Heath simply gets the least production out of the talent he has.  this team is a direct mirror of its coach...does not know how to slow down a runaway train.  Heath needs to go...four losses that should have been wins in the SEC says it all.  does anyone really think we can still get 10 wins in conference? 

[hogken]

Nutt did enough to stay in the off season with the new hires and recruits! And He did have some good years. Heath has inproved but last year he improved on very weak opposition. He needs to step down. Doesnt anyone do that for the good of the program ?

[SiriusHog™]

i still dont see how its heath's fault that the players let UK hit like, 7 three pointers in the second half... the players did NOT EXECUTE... its that simple.. dont overanalyze the problem guys... how bout blaming the guys on the court too... townes played like a [CENSORED] today, dontell jefferson remembered he was dontell jefferson, steven hill played scared... good thing ferguson and thomas stepped up off the bench or we would have never been in the damn game..

[hogken]

we led by 18 and again its unfortunate but, Heath gets all the big bucks for these thing not to happen. Not once but 3 freakin times. His fault! period!gotta go!

[SiriusHog™]

there still has to be blame on the players as well... maybe the players started playing 'not to lose'....

[Pragmatic PiG]

Nutt did enough to stay in the off season with the new hires and recruits! And He did have some good years. Heath has inproved but last year he improved on very weak opposition. He needs to step down. Doesnt anyone do that for the good of the program ?

you mean going under .500 in the SEC as nutt did in year 7 and 8 of his regime is all good but the same don't apply for the other guy?

nutt makes a bunch of scrills.................seems like a double standard to me

BTW, nutt didn't do anything this offseason he wasn't forced to do, we all know that

[SiriusHog™]

and for the record, if they fire heath this year, it will only make me think one thing: maybe Nolan was right...

[bwg1114]

Nolan set the standard.  Every coach we have in bball will be measure up to his record and championships/final fours

[Hog in MO]

here's the difference in the game: the PLAYERS EXECUTED in the first half on both ends of the floor, the PLAYERS DID NOT EXECUTE in the second half on either end of the floor... it wouldnt have mattered if john wooden was on our sideline.... and i know the blown 18 point lead thing will stick in people's heads.. but this still isnt as bad as that one year in the SEC tourney final, against kentucky, we were up by about 20 the whole friggin game and lost it in OT...

Whose job is it to make sure the team is prepared - mentally as well as physically - so that we don't have breakdowns in execution?  A breakdown would be an improvement for this team, we have MELTDOWNS.  Whose job is it to rally this team when they are starting to fade and make the needed adjustments to right the ship? All I see is players panicking on the floor in pressure situations because they don't know how to handle it. 

[razorsharp94]

Heath.  I mean look what happened when we fired our last coach, we lost the eventual 3rd pick in the draft (Iguodala) and our best returning player (Sullinger), and had we not lost those two we would be much better than we are right now.  I definitely don't think that losing an 18 point lead on the road is excusable even if we are playing the Pistons but I just don't think that we can take a hit like that.  I mean if we fire Heath we lose 3 seniors which is okay b/c our senior leadership is terrible.  We lose Brewer to the NBA for sure.  We lose Townes b/c Ronnie Thompson is going to leave most likely.  Plus everybody we signed can go elsewhere if they choose to.  So that puts us back at 2002 pretty much.  We just don't need to do this. 

[SiriusHog™]

again, if the players make shots and defend in the 2nd half.. then guess what, there IS NO MELTDOWN, and stan doesnt have to come up with some "hey guys get your head out of your asses" speech.. it all comes down to the players... they did not execute.. the game plan did not change in the 2nd half, it was the same as the first half, only the players did not defend or make shots..

[OinkinOregon]

I agree with you whole-heartedly.  Karma for you!

[Hog in MO]

again, if the players make shots and defend in the 2nd half.. then guess what, there IS NO MELTDOWN, and stan doesnt have to come up with some "hey guys get your head out of your asses" speech.. it all comes down to the players... they did not execute.. the game plan did not change in the 2nd half, it was the same as the first half, only the players did not defend or make shots..

When you have an 18 point lead you don't try to play up-tempo with a guard-oriented team. You don't throw up threes and one-handed leaners with 25 seconds left on the shot clock.  You don't force bad passes that turn into turnovers.  You milk the clock down and you take good shots and try to get to the foul line.  And you don't play a 2-3 zone when the other team's ONLY effective offense is shooting the three pointer. 

You are right, the game plan did NOT change and that is the problem. 

[SiriusHog™]

man.. you seem to know an awful lot about the x's and o's of basketball.. what team do you coach? 

[WilsonHog]

The players we have might welcome a change.

They might just want to..........oh, dare I say it??

Play for a winner.

[ballhog™]

i don't know how to fix the brakes on my car, but if the mechanic that works on them doesn't fix them, im going to gripe and get someone else in there that can.

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[SiriusHog™]

i don't know how to fix the brakes on my car, but if the mechanic that works on them doesn't fix them, im going to gripe and get someone else in there that can.

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ah, touche'.. BUT, you can gripe all you want, but are you going to tell him HOW to fix them?  i think not...

[SardisHog]

I wouldn't step down, I'd pull in that $800,000 per year as long as they let me.

[forrest city joe]

                      Here is the bottom line, no defense and no rebounding, no win. they scored on almost ever trip. and the few times they did not theuy got the rebound and scored anyway. this is not a good thing. i wish stan would be a man and step down. admit he cant get it done here.

[ballhog™]

no coach will step down on their own making that kind of money.  He'll make them fire him and take the buy out.

[SiriusHog™]

if thats the case joe, then townes and hill need to transfer as well.. they didnt rebound the ball and both played like pansies..... so i guess they also need to admit they cant get it done and just quit... i'm glad i dont have that sort of approach in life: "when the going gets tough, just quit"... that'll sure make a winner out of ya...

[powersrzbk]

If the players are the one's not trying and playing to lose, then isn't it the coaches job to put players in that don't want to lose. Sometimes taking the guys out of the game and putting the scrubs in can make a huge difference. I remember times when Nolan would do that. It really fired the team up.

[hogman64]

act as upset over  a loss as are  Hog fans ...  Refuse to come out for the radio show where you do  your  back and forth banter with hair cut boy, you know when you quietly and politely talk about  what should have been or could have been and how we have to get those things corrected.... .  Get three technicals in the last 30 seconds and be  escorted to the locker room.  Throw your jacket in the stands...
Yell and scream at the refs until you look like a crazed lunatic, rip your shirt off and challenge the other coach to a WWF smackdown cage match... .............JUST DO SOMETHNG PLEASE.....show us  you hurt like a hog fan that remembers when Arkansas Bball was something...........

[powersrzbk]

I just don't see how you can leave this guys in and let them blow a lead like that without doing something.

[SiriusHog™]

yeah.. he shouldve put cranford and munsey in the game.. that wouldve been REAL smart..

[ballhog™]

Here is out fate as a basketball team as it looks now.  We will beat the average teams at home, every now and then we will beat a pretty good team at home, we will always lose to good teams at home.  We will lose to all good teams on the road, we will lose to average teams on the road, and once a year we will beat a bad team on the road.  That will put us a little under 500 overall and under 500 in the sec.

[powersrzbk]

They might have played with more heart. If I remember correctly, that is how Nolan's teams played when they were winning. I don't care how athletic a player his, If he doesn't have heart then the team will continually to play the way our team is playing.

[SiriusHog™]

dude.. i dont ever remember nolan putting in JOHN ENGSKOV or GUY WHITNEY to fire the team up.. give me a break...

[forrest city joe]

                    If hill and towns cant get it done, who recruited them here. and what about the pitiful second half defense and the rebounding. the coaches and players are both to blame. but you cant fire the players. these players dont know how to win. and neither does stan.

[SiriusHog™]

sure you can fire the players.. rip their schollies..... either way.. this team still has some improving to do as do the coaches.. lets just hope they put it all together soon...

[hogman64]

It is pretty obvious Stan has alot more in common with  the guy that had the hit song........."Who Let The Dogs Out".........than he does with Sutton and Richardson........

[Kevin]

war- since you ask people who they coach let me give you my resume first- coached 10 years of college basketball, was the youngest head coach at the ncaa level at 23, lost alot of game and wons some championships, now i do individual player development with young players, i have coached players who are in the nba and playing at all levels of college.

This team is poorly coached, and the roster is poorly put together, no point guard, i do not want to hear about mccurdy, if he was worth anything he would play above jefferson or at least get minutes.  no, consistent outside shooter, no, break down guard, townes has not improved since he hit campus, he has two offensive moves half hook right handed and turn around jumper that is it, hill, still not one offensive move, modica-can't dribble, can't pass and will not rebound. body like tarzan plays like jane.

absolutely,NO TOUGHNESS ON THE TEAM OR ANY HEATH TEAM AT UA. i knew in the first half if uk got it to 10 or twelve by half they would win.

ronnie brewer a pro, that is laughable, maybe stuff the stat sheet but it never seems to be a big play, 1 on 4 a commit a charge when were were 2 down.

i'm done watching this mess.

[powersrzbk]

I don't think McCurdy and McGowan can exactly be compared to John Engzkov and Guy Whitney.

[powersrzbk]

Good post Kevin

[SiriusHog™]

that was a good post... points well taken..

[powersrzbk]

But I do have one thing to say about that. I don't think people were saying that the first 12 minutes of the ball game. We looked pretty good to me. The lack of coaching starts taking place when the coach allows is players to lose their momentum and quit playing the way they were when they had the lead in the first place. I know people on here hate HDN but at least he fires his team up with energy. Come on Heath show some emotion.

[SiriusHog™]

although i do think that brewer will be a pretty good pro..

[Kevin]

he might be a good pro, the problem i see at that level is he cannot break people down off the dribble, or he has not been taught.  i think he might be a josh howard type, howard can break people down.

[ComeonHogs!!!]

With about 4 min to go we are down 2. Kentucky has the ball sparks shoots from the corner Kentucky puts back the miss. Ferguson was the only hog fighting for position. brewer was the watching as everyone else was. they quit because they either have no heart, or they were tired and could not move.

In the first half two or three hogs would have grabbed the board. So why are they tired? why do they have no heart? Are they playing to many minutes? Dang it just makes you sick.

[Kevin]

NO HEART.

[Hog in MO]

man.. you seem to know an awful lot about the x's and o's of basketball.. what team do you coach? 

So i take it this discussion is over then.   I don't coach any team, but I have been coached by good coaches in the past.  It doesn't take much more than paying attention to see that this team is in panic mode because they don't know what they are doing.