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yraciv

January 26, 2017, 12:04:38 pm
Predictions? We can all agree that for the perception of the SEC it would be nice to win this thing for once. I think it is close

Saturday, January 28         
Texas A&M at West Virginia            ESPN    Noon ET
Florida at Oklahoma                     ESPN      1:00 pm CT       
Kansas State at Tennessee             ESPN2      1:00 pm CT
LSU at Texas Tech                     ESPNU       1:00 pm CT
Texas at Georgia                     ESPN    3:00 pm CT
Iowa State at Vanderbilt            ESPN2    3:00 pm CT
Arkansas at Oklahoma State        ESPNU    3:00 pm CT
Kansas at Kentucky                     ESPN    5:00 pm CT
Baylor at Mississippi     ESPN2    5:00 pm CT
Auburn at TCU     ESPNU    5:00 pm CT

I'm going to go with a 5/5 split.

BannerMountainMan

January 26, 2017, 12:05:39 pm #1
I can see a 7-3, giving Auburn the upset!!
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"
 

BannerMountainMan

January 26, 2017, 12:06:57 pm #2
A&M, LSU, and Ole Miss only teams losing, probably Auburn but I'm giving them the upset
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

rude1

January 26, 2017, 12:10:19 pm #3
If the perception of the conference is ever going to change, it needs to do better in these contests.  Hopefully this is the year we play them even or better.

Letsroll1200

January 26, 2017, 12:12:17 pm #4
I'm going with Vandy over Iowa State!!

Atlhogfan1

January 26, 2017, 12:15:58 pm #5
A&M at WV:  WV's opponents turn it over on avg 25 times per game @WV, A&M turns it over a lot

UGa has to get it together.  That was ugly last night after their A&M meltdown. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

hogwood

January 26, 2017, 05:29:34 pm #6
4-6 with TX beating GA. Otherwise same as OP.

hog.goblin

January 28, 2017, 10:13:52 am #7
I'm going with 6 - 4 SEC

Winners
Hogs
Kentucky
Georgia
Auburn
TN
FL

Losers
A&M
Vandy
LSU
Mississippi

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 10:28:21 am #8
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article129106574.html?client=safari

"2. Arkansas at Oklahoma State

Records (Ken Pom ranking): Arkansas 16-4 (44); Oklahoma State 12-8 (27)

Time/TV: 3 p.m. on ESPNU

By RPI, a victory would be Razorbacks' best of season, and Cowboys' second best.

Pick: Oklahoma State"

KC Star blog ranks our game as second best of the challenge. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 10:34:02 am #9
It was showing no. 3 Gonzaga's (good wins ) and it had Tennessee so shouldn't that be a really good win for us??
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

SPAL

January 28, 2017, 10:36:17 am #10
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 10:34:02 am
It was showing no. 3 Gonzaga's (good wins ) and it had Tennessee so shouldn't that be a really good win for us??

Obviously it is. But you won't hear anybody here say it.

HogBeliever625

January 28, 2017, 10:37:47 am #11
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 10:34:02 am
It was showing no. 3 Gonzaga's (good wins ) and it had Tennessee so shouldn't that be a really good win for us??
I mean it's our best win right now, but not exactly a great resume win. A win today would be huge for our RPI and beating a 2nd big 12 team.

waphill

January 28, 2017, 11:08:40 am #12
The only day of the year to root for Kentucky! No fan base is more arrogant than the Jayhawks.
 

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 11:21:26 am #13
A&M playing good! Even without Hogg!
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

lynbug

January 28, 2017, 11:36:25 am #14
Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 28, 2017, 10:28:21 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article129106574.html?client=safari

"2. Arkansas at Oklahoma State

Records (Ken Pom ranking): Arkansas 16-4 (44); Oklahoma State 12-8 (27)

Time/TV: 3 p.m. on ESPNU

By RPI, a victory would be Razorbacks' best of season, and Cowboys' second best.

Pick: Oklahoma State"

KC Star blog ranks our game as second best of the challenge.
44 and 27----I'm assuming that's RPI.  How in the world did OSU's get that high.  SOS?

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 11:50:30 am #15
Quote from: lynbug on January 28, 2017, 11:36:25 am
44 and 27----I'm assuming that's RPI.  How in the world did OSU's get that high.  SOS?

Not RPI.  Kenpom's calculation.  Yes their SOS contributes to inflating their numbers.   
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 11:59:31 am #16
14 first half turnovers for A&M
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

hawginbigd1

January 28, 2017, 12:25:55 pm #17
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 11:21:26 am
A&M playing good! Even without Hogg!
Gosh you just look at the skills and talent those guys have and you just think they should be much better than they are, now they didn't have a snowballs chance today! They definitely got the worst draw.

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 12:27:32 pm #18
Quote from: hawginbigd1 on January 28, 2017, 12:25:55 pm
Gosh you just look at the skills and talent those guys have and you just think they should be much better than they are, now they didn't have a snowballs chance today! They definitely got the worst draw.
also the fouls are 13 to 4 30 minutes into the ball game, down 12, needa hang in there
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 12:35:35 pm #19
AM doing much better w not turning it over
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 12:36:45 pm #20
Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 28, 2017, 12:35:35 pm
AM doing much better w not turning it over
they had it to 6 and got a clean deflection but called a foul and went downhill from there, what kinda of refs are doing these games? SEC or big 12 or some other conf?
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

azhog10

January 28, 2017, 12:38:52 pm #21
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 12:36:45 pm
they had it to 6 and got a clean deflection but called a foul and went downhill from there, what kinda of refs are doing these games? SEC or big 12 or some other conf?
All the same.

SEC doesn't have their own officiating crew. Very few, if any do. I see refs we've had do big 12 and other games as well.

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 01:00:53 pm #22
Uh oh!!!!! Close game!!
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

Buff

January 28, 2017, 01:04:52 pm #23
Big 12 - 1
SEC - 0
 

Dominicanhog

January 28, 2017, 01:07:06 pm #24
A & M showed well on the road.. if SEC wins some games this one will be looked upon favorably

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 01:09:09 pm #25
SEC's 2nd hardest game and SEC almost wins, could be a great day!
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

Buff

January 28, 2017, 01:10:42 pm #26
"Kevaughn Allen from Little Rock, Arkansas" drains the big 3 for Florida early on.  I hate that guy.

Pig Worshipper

January 28, 2017, 01:17:32 pm #27
Brent Musburger is calling this game like he should be on suicide watch, poor guy. Someone put some Prozac in his coffee, please. It's clear he's not ready to retire.

apcapri

January 28, 2017, 01:26:52 pm #28
This game plus commentary = watching paint dry.

RaisinHog

January 28, 2017, 01:32:52 pm #29
If Florida could shoot the 3 even a lil they would be so much better

Adam Stokes

January 28, 2017, 01:39:05 pm #30
Sagarin's chances of each team winning from greatest chance to least.

79% - Kentucky vs Kansas
66% - Florida @ Oklahoma
64% - Georgia vs Texas
49% - Tennessee vs KSU
32% - Vanderbilt vs Iowa State
28% - Arkansas @ Oklahoma State
20% - Auburn @ TCU
19% - Ole Miss vs Baylor
9% - LSU @ Texas Tech
6% - Texas A&M @ West Virginia
3.64 Total Wins

I'd like to think our chances of beating OSU are higher than that. If we get 4 the computers would say it's a good day. I'd like a 50/50 split.

XavierZane

January 28, 2017, 01:53:11 pm #31
Man, Kansas State is looking hapless and panicked.  Three timeouts in fifteen minutes!?

... and they still go into halftime down seventeen.  Oklahoma isn't looking too hot either.  SEC may come out of this day looking pretty good.

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 03:05:13 pm #32
SEC- 2 Big 12- 2
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 05:17:07 pm #33
SEC has a good chance of going 6-4 or 7-3, that may trump or get even with this loss today to tell you the truth, sorry to tell yah haters.
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

ErieHog

January 28, 2017, 05:21:35 pm #34
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 05:17:07 pm
SEC has a good chance of going 6-4 or 7-3, that may trump or get even with this loss today to tell you the truth, sorry to tell yah haters.

It won't trump it, or make it pretty, but it will help a lot if the league wins this challenge.

The SEC has *never* won the SEC-B12 Challenge.   The closest it has sniffed in the formal challenge era is going 4-6.

That will be a nice boost to the RPI of the whole conference, if it happens.    So, root for Kentucky tonight, as much as you might not like to.
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mckinneyhog5

January 28, 2017, 05:22:44 pm #35
Home teams are doing well...besides chocklahoma
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apcapri

January 28, 2017, 05:34:59 pm #36
SEC - 4 Big 12 - 3

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 05:44:09 pm #37
Monk putting on a little show so far. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

mckinneyhog5

January 28, 2017, 05:50:39 pm #38
Sorry but it's setup for the home teams to win..no doubt about it.
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 06:21:05 pm #39
AU and OM each up early in second half. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

PonderinHog

January 28, 2017, 06:51:52 pm #40
Ole Miss still hanging around.   Down 1 with 5:23 left.

ErieHog

January 28, 2017, 06:52:24 pm #41
Quote from: PonderinHog on January 28, 2017, 06:51:52 pm
Ole Miss still hanging around.   Down 1 with 5:23 left.

That would be a huge win for the conference.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

BannerMountainMan

January 28, 2017, 06:56:20 pm #42
SEC going 7-3 looks more clear every second, but 5-5 does too! Which will it be???
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

Kevin

January 28, 2017, 06:57:08 pm #43
Go Jayhawks
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ErieHog

January 28, 2017, 06:58:37 pm #44
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 06:56:20 pm
SEC going 7-3 looks more clear every second, but 5-5 does too! Which will it be???

Any possible finish, short of Auburn finding a way to collapse and the other two being swept, will be the best finish for the league in the SEC/B12 challenge.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Atlhogfan1

January 28, 2017, 07:00:39 pm #45
Quote from: ErieHog on January 28, 2017, 06:52:24 pm
That would be a huge win for the conference.

Will it matter?  SEC going to have a 5th team remotely close to bubble for it to matter? 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

ErieHog

January 28, 2017, 07:03:06 pm #46
Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 28, 2017, 07:00:39 pm
Will it matter?  SEC going to have a 5th team remotely close to bubble for it to matter? 

It can matter.   The amount of cannibalism that happens in the B10, B12, and ACC tournaments might make a Georgia type team a viable bubble possibility if they made it to Championship Sunday, or even the day before.

The real question will be the RPI hit that the B12 might take if Baylor gets beat by Ole Miss;  that could be a big rock in a small pond.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

PonderinHog

January 28, 2017, 07:03:14 pm #47
Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 28, 2017, 07:00:39 pm
Will it matter?  SEC going to have a 5th team remotely close to bubble for it to matter?
A rising tide?

ErieHog

January 28, 2017, 07:05:24 pm #48
Looks like Kentucky and Ole Miss are probably sunk.  Damn.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

PonderinHog

January 28, 2017, 07:05:43 pm #49
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